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oh em gee bee ess posted:Oh man, my ears are burning red now. I'm feeling a tonne of second-hand internet embarrassment. How about you buy a clue and realise that it's a movie and it fits in with how James Bond is as a character and not an example of why Sean Connery is a oval office because lets face it he's a oval office for a load of different reasons not because of how he portrayed James Bond. Okay. Nobody said that, so good job winning the debate with yourself I guess.
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oh em gee bee ess posted:Both of you are seriously looking for things to be offended about. Bond is a suave, confident alpha male who happens to be a bit caddish. He fits perfectly with his era, and in case both of you haven't noticed it's a movie not real life. Deal with this reality for gently caress's sake. Never said he didn't fit with his era, guy. You're right in that he's suave, though. In Goldfinger, he's so suave he's making out with a girl in the beginning and sees a guy about to sucker punch him from behind with her eyes and spins her around so she'll take the hit.
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I never thought "rape" was subtle, why are you morons talking about rape in the subtle movie moments thread? I'm sure there's some random poo poo in Star Trek 5 or whatever you can sperg about. This thread was interesting until about 2 pages ago.
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Feb 15, 2014 23:14
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syscall girl posted:Deckard was a little fresh with Rachel in Bladerunner. Deckard literally doesn't consider Rachel to be human.
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Feb 15, 2014 23:37
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cofaigh posted:Each actor to play Bond interpreted him differently, Connery's Bond was an absolute poo poo. Or to put it another way, the closest to book Bond.
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So something I liked about Skyfall was a scene where Bond and M drive to his old estate and she says something catty while in the passenger seat. Bond has his thumb hovering over the button on the shifter and she just gives him a "You wouldn't!" look. In Goldfinger Bond's introduced to the car and all of its features, one of which was an ejection seat for the passenger activated by the button on the shifter.
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Feb 16, 2014 00:23
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Shrapnac posted:This thread was interesting until about 2 pages ago. It was actually pretty interesting hearing people talking about creepy moments from the old bond movies. Dont really remember any of those bond movies since I havent watched them since I was a kid, I only like the good bond movies where he fights space commies and voodoo priestesses.
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James bond is a loving pimp in all senses of the word.
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Decrepus posted:In High Planes Drifter, Clint Eastwood rapes a woman (for about 10 seconds, I guess he is a premature ejaculator),she tries to kill him, but in the end falls in love with him. High Plains Drifter is a dark-rear end film and Clint Eastwood's character is literally an angry ghost man. It's a pretty good companion film to Unforgiven.
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Feb 16, 2014 03:41
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Unforgiven is about a woman who is brutalized, and how gross overreaction and zealous attempts at accountability lead to senseless death and tragedy.
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scary ghost dog posted:Unforgiven is about a woman who is brutalized, and how gross overreaction and zealous attempts at accountability lead to senseless death and tragedy. Yes. Did this become PYF broadly caricatured summaries of films?
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Cat Hatter posted:Revenge Of The Nerds too. Legally Lewis raped Betty by pretending to be her boyfriend, but the rape was so good that she started dating him instead of having him arrested. Also he sold everyone in school naked pictures that he took of her with a hidden camera. Revenge of the Nerds is legitimately super loving offensive in stuff like that, that I think it actually wraps around. That movie is so hateful towards everyone that I can't really say it's all that offensive. Even the nerds that are meant to be the good guys are basically walking punchlines.
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scary ghost dog posted:Unforgiven is about a woman who is brutalized, and how gross overreaction and zealous attempts at accountability lead to senseless death and tragedy.
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Here's something from early on in the 1960 Michael Powell film Peeping Tom. For context, the protagonist, Mark, wants to be a filmmaker. The film starts with a POV shot through the viewfinder of Mark's camera, giving us a view of Mark filming his preferred subject: he hires a prostitute, follows her into her room, then murders her with a knife hidden in the camera's tripod. The second scene of the film takes place in a corner store that is just chock-full of softcore porn. A man buys a larger format pin-up from under the counter, and then a little teenage girl walks in and buys some candy so that we can all get nice and uncomfortable. Click  here for the shot in question (linked due to some blurry nude postcards in the image).So, what is so important about that shot? Well, initially, when the schoolgirl comes in, we feel uncomfortable because oh no, a innocent in a shop that is mostly composed of pornography. But look at the resemblance between the shape of the emblem on her sweater and the Canada Dry logo. That resemblance, and the prominence of the Canada Dry logo in the shot itself, I would argue, is Powell's attempt to visually commodify the schoolgirl, which more directly relates her to the pin-ups. This isn't just Powell being a creep; rather, he is reinforcing the film's associations between film, sex, and murder. That is, Powell tells us that it isn't just Mark's camera that carried those associations, but also the moving image itself. Fifteen years before Laura Mulvey fully formulated her concept of the male gaze (not that the idea came out of thin air), Powell was already claiming that the camera's perspective was a masculine and objectifying one.
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Goofus Giraffe posted:Fifteen years before Laura Mulvey fully formulated her concept of the male gaze (not that the idea came out of thin air), Powell was already claiming that the camera's perspective was a masculine and objectifying one. Yeah, he was definitely ahead of the curve on this one. And as a reward, the critics spectacularly missed his point, savaged the film in their reviews and effectively ended Michael Powells' career as a filmmaker. He made some of the finest British films of the 1940s' and 50s' (The Red Shoes, Black Narcissus, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, A Matter of Life and Death), and after this film found it almost impossible to get work.
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In Dodgeball, at the end where they recieve the winnings in the chest there is a label that you see for less than a second saying "deus ex machina". Just rewatched it and burst out laughing at it.
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Action Tortoise posted:So something I liked about Skyfall was a scene where Bond and M drive to his old estate and she says something catty while in the passenger seat. Bond has his thumb hovering over the button on the shifter and she just gives him a "You wouldn't!" look. In Goldfinger Bond's introduced to the car and all of its features, one of which was an ejection seat for the passenger activated by the button on the shifter.
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Feb 16, 2014 15:59
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In Her, Theodore Twombly puts safety pins in his shirt pocket so Samantha's camera can see out. The more safety pins he uses, the greater his connection/dependence on her.
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nothing to seehere posted:In Dodgeball, at the end where they recieve the winnings in the chest there is a label that you see for less than a second saying "deus ex machina". Just rewatched it and burst out laughing at it. This was basically the director saying gently caress you to the audience. Dodgeball originally ended with Ben Stiller taking Vince Vaughn out of the tournament in the finals. The director and producer were baffled that test audiences didn't find the ending as funny as they did. So they set up the whole "Double Fault/Sudden Death" thing with the Deus Ex Machina chest being a reference to the fact that the super happy ending was tacked on.
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Razorwired posted:This was basically the director saying gently caress you to the audience. The original ending sucked. It had potential, but as filmed, it was a steaming bag. It was just "Vince loses, movie ends." Where the gently caress was the joke? They needed way more. No wonder the test audience rebelled.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Where the gently caress was the joke? "Vince loses, movie ends."
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"A True Underdog Story"
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Dodecahedron posted:Deckard literally doesn't consider Rachel to be human. Deckard wasn't a human either! 
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Where the gently caress was the joke? The joke was that a pack of wacky but lovable losers getting together at the last second to take on THOSE RICH JERKS AT THEIR OWN GAME  was doomed to failure, because they were playing a highly trained, focused and bonded team of formidable professionals. The shot of them all gathered staring in horror as Ben Stiller wildly celebrates yet another in a long series of victories was utterly hilarious to me in the way it twisted the common "underdogs triumph against the odds" formula.The new ending is hilarious in its own way just in terms of how spiteful and condescending the director is being towards the viewer, with the topping being the credits sequence where Ben Stiller appears again but now grossly obsese and complaining about how now somehow he's fat again and his business empire collapsed for some reason so boy the audience must SURE be happy now, he really got his!
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qntm posted:Deckard wasn't a human either! He didn't know that though. Rachel would've been essentially human if Deckard didn't have a print out of Tyrell's dead niece's memories to read at her. Slightly subtle movie moment content (also PKD): In A Scanner Darkly, as Fred/Bob is starting to lose it, his handler/girlfriend's scramble suit flashes a skull (death head) foreshadowing his descent into substance D burnout. Phillip K. Dick is also featured in the opening scene as one of the many scramble suit faces.
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I'm fairly certain that the "alternate Dodgeball ending" was just a joke. Maybe somebody considered the idea at one point in production but it was never filmed.
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Ninja Gamer posted:I'm fairly certain that the "alternate Dodgeball ending" was just a joke. Maybe somebody considered the idea at one point in production but it was never filmed. Yeah, the DVD has that ending but its literally just the regular ending of the movie except it cuts to credits when Vince Vaughn gets hit with the dodgeball.
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Feb 17, 2014 03:57
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Steve the Pirate got his treasure, and that's all that matters to me 
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KozmoNaut posted:Steve the Pirate got his treasure, and that's all that matters to me I wasn't going to say this because yeah the ending didn't make much sense but at the time, this was all I cared about. Steve the Pirate deserved that treasure.
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Feb 17, 2014 05:22
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Who's Steve the Pirate?
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oldpainless posted:Who's Steve the Pirate? Alan Two-Dicks
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Feb 17, 2014 06:12
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He was quoting the movie
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ThatPazuzu posted:In Her, Theodore Twombly puts safety pins in his shirt pocket so Samantha's camera can see out. The more safety pins he uses, the greater his connection/dependence on her. There's a scene where she goes away for a little while, and during that he walks around sulking, the phone out of his pocket but the pin still in, signifying she was still "with him" in a way.
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Feb 17, 2014 06:41
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There's a guy in the movie who dresses like a pirate?
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:There's a guy in the movie who dresses like a pirate? 
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Oh, look, it's Steve the pirate!
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He's a leaf on the sea
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On a semi-related note, Alan Tudyk played an extremely creepy and cold-blooded Canadian hitman on Justified in the current season. It was very odd coming from all the good-natured goofy characters he usually portrays. That was a pretty good subtle moment for me. Same thing with Walton Goggins in Sons Of Anarchy, although there was absolutely nothing subtle about that particular cameo :bigtran: KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 14:16 on Feb 17, 2014 |
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KozmoNaut posted:On a semi-related note, Alan Tudyk played an extremely creepy and cold-blooded Canadian hitman on Justified in the current season. It was very odd coming from all the good-natured goofy characters he usually portrays. That was a pretty good subtle moment for me. He also subverted that a few years ago with his character in V. Who acts as a normal Alan Tudyk character but then is actually an alien spying on humans.
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