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CuddleChunks
Sep 18, 2004

Benny the Snake posted:

Allright, I'm back from the job fair. There were five job recruiters present and a list of the jobs available. I could only apply to three, given how most of the positions were engineering and mechanical jobs and because of transportation constraints. Unfortunately, one of the recruiters left early for the day so I only applied to two.

Then I got a pissboner because I was thinking of this really awesome new story called The Sexy Oracle and had to run to the bathroom and pee and wait a bit for things to settle down and by then there was only one recruiter there. In a panic, I forgot to slide open the door lock on the bathroom stall and ended up nearly knocking myself unconscious as I rebounded off the cold steel walls of the toilets. Picking myself up and taking stock I noticed I still had my resume, typing certification, and letter of recommendation from my internship. To my horror, the thank you note for my interviewer had fallen out of my binder (not my fault, it's one of those cheap ones from the dollar store. They never fit all the papers quite right) and landed in a puddle of someone's urine. I tried to brush it off but that just spread things around and since I hadn't gotten an interview yet I realized that maybe the thank you note was a bit premature.

Concentrating extra hard I remembered to slide the latch back and then open the door. I dropped the soggy note into the trash, washed my hands and headed out to see the last job recruiter but by then, there were none.


Just typing this up real fast on my way home. Mom says it's okay, I can always try at the next job fair and tonight is hot pockets and pizza rolls night so it's not a total loss!

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Fuck da Mods
Jun 27, 2013

fina get poz'd? :cabot: :gizz: :baby:
How big is your dick, Benny? Could you do some porno? Might be scraping at the bottom of the barrel, but I'm just trying to find your calling.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

gently caress da Mods posted:

How big is your dick, Benny? Could you do some porno? Might be scraping at the bottom of the barrel, but I'm just trying to find your calling.

He lives in CA. If he's willing to go gay and doesn't look awful....

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

TheReverend posted:

Challenge:

For the next week chronicle everything you do from the time you are awake to the time you sleep.
Write down everything you are doing on the hour.

Example:

10am Wake up
11am Look for job listings
noon Apply to jobs
1pm Apply to jobs
2pm Lunch



Something like that.

If you do this people may be able to better help you organize your time. YOU SHOULD DO IT!

Benny, we all know that following advice isn't really your thing, but just do this already.

Starter Wiggin
Feb 1, 2009

Screw the enemy's gate man, I've got a fucking TAIL!
Do you know how crazy the ladies go for those?

Aqua Bear posted:

Benny, we all know that following advice isn't really your thing, but just do this already.

What do we do when he posts it, and we are treated to, "this isn't my usual schedule I almost always (except this week) apply for jobs wayyy more often it's not my fault it was really sunny out and etc."

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

Death Bot posted:

He lives in CA. If he's willing to go gay and doesn't look awful....

Probably better off applying for the "cuckolded husband" roles.

Unity Gain
Sep 15, 2007

dancing blue

Starter Wiggin posted:

What do we do when he posts it, and we are treated to, "this isn't my usual schedule I almost always (except this week) apply for jobs wayyy more often it's not my fault it was really sunny out and etc."

Ya know, this makes me wonder.

We keep calling Benny the goon in the well: he asks for advice, we offer it, he ignores it, he asks for more, we offer more, but nothing changes. He's still sitting in the pee-filled well.

But maybe we all are the goon in the well. We keep coming back, despite the evidence that we really shouldn't. I suppose it's for the entertainment value(?) but even that's wearing thin. How many times can you go around in the same non-productive circle? It's us, I tell you. It's us.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.




Keep writing Benny! Make sure you proof your work and don't submit your first draft!

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Croc Monster posted:

Ya know, this makes me wonder.

We keep calling Benny the goon in the well: he asks for advice, we offer it, he ignores it, he asks for more, we offer more, but nothing changes. He's still sitting in the pee-filled well.

But maybe we all are the goon in the well. We keep coming back, despite the evidence that we really shouldn't. I suppose it's for the entertainment value(?) but even that's wearing thin. How many times can you go around in the same non-productive circle? It's us, I tell you. It's us.

Ok, nobody post in this thread again. Goldmine.

Manic Mailman
Jul 2, 2004
Benny, I don't care about any of this job and story writing nonsense, how did you spend your valentine's day? Did you slay any sweet poon tonight?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Croc Monster posted:

Ya know, this makes me wonder.

We keep calling Benny the goon in the well: he asks for advice, we offer it, he ignores it, he asks for more, we offer more, but nothing changes. He's still sitting in the pee-filled well.

But maybe we all are the goon in the well. We keep coming back, despite the evidence that we really shouldn't. I suppose it's for the entertainment value(?) but even that's wearing thin. How many times can you go around in the same non-productive circle? It's us, I tell you. It's us.

I move this be appended to the official goon in the well template.

Uncle Salty
Jan 19, 2008
BOYS
Honestly, everything Croc Monster has posted in this thread is gold. Croc Monster, I loved your story.

Benny get the jobs.

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?
Last time Benny agreed to an hour by hour breakdown of his day we got this.

Benny the Snake posted:

I know it's not a novel. It's just an idea I've been hashing and re-hasing for four years now without anything beyond chapter two. It's on hold until I can sort out all these immediate issues out of the way.

Okay. Here's the timeline for today up until now:

7AM: Woke up in a panic. Alarm clock was set for 6 but I had on accident set it two hours in advance so it reads 9. Eat breakfast, wash up, and get dressed. I had ironed my shirt and slacks the night before. I also shaved. Facial hair never looks good on me.

8:20 AM: Leave for school. Public transit takes about an hour and a half. I spend the time reading.

9:40 AM: Arrived on campus. I go to the marketplace where my friends hang out. I set up my computer and print out 20 copies of my resume. I meet and talk with some of my friends, including Carl and Pablo (not their real names) who are there for the fair. We swap resumes and help each other out.

10:40 AM: I go to the fair. I passed out over 30 resumes. Each booth I visited I asked what major they were looking for, what positions were open, and details about the position. I ask about locations and tasks associated with the position. I give them a resume, ask for a business card, and ask if they have any questions about my resume. I emphasize my campaign volunteer work, since it's the most recent work experience and lets me highlight my administrative skills. I avoid booths that are looking for specific majors outside my own: quite a few booths want engineers exclusively. Here's a shortlist of the companies I gave resumes:

  • Cal Poly Extended University
  • Americorps
  • THINK Together
  • Sate Auditor
  • Fastenal
  • Gothic Grounds Management
  • JINS
  • Toys R Us
  • Regus
  • Sketchers
  • Second Image National
  • Home Depot
  • Petsmart
  • Farmer's Insurance
  • Healthcare Service Group
  • Waddel & Reed Financial Advisors
  • Southern Wine & Spirits
  • AER Technologies
  • Exel
  • USMC
  • Target
  • Sherwin-Williams
  • Uline Shipping
  • Consolidated Electrical Distributors, Inc.
  • ADP
  • Ferguson Plumbing and Building Products
  • Penskie Motor Group
  • Northwestern Mutual
  • Progressive Insurance

2PM: I start applying online to the companies I got business cards from. As much as I made a good impression on their representatives at their booths, I need to follow up by applying online. I put priority on THINK, CPP Extended University, and JINS. JINS is an eyewear company based in Japan that wants to set up shop here in the States. I made a good impression on the recruiter. I like this job especially because I'm hoping that cheap frames are part of the benefits(Prescription eyeglasses cost me anywhere between six and eight hundred. I have hosed up eyesight). I made an especially good impression on Second Image: the rep said she'd give me a call for an interview next week. I still have her business card just in case. I apply online to about a third of the places I passed out resumes to, on top of writing cover letters for each place. I take a break every now and then to shoot the poo poo with my friends.

6:30 PM: I hitch a ride with Andy (not his real name) who brings me home. Andy's a great guy who's a hospitality major and tends bar and Disneyland. That's a place that's always hiring and the moment I have a car, I'll apply there too.

7PM: eat dinner at restaurant and read paper.

8PM: arrive home. And now I'm chatting with you goons.

Tomorrow I have a 9AM interview with McDonald's. I'll apply to more of the places I left resumes at after my interview. Therapy would be a nice option, but I'm uninsured. It's one of the other things I'm going to have to put on hold. I'll get around to UW and Goodwill as soon as I get all these things sorted out.

This was his big star of the week major stuff day. Not a routine day. Yet he still spent more time dicking around with friends than he did working towards a job.

And even then he didn't come prepares with resumes so had to print them on site. And spent four and a half hours "applying online and shooting poo poo with friends", stuff he could have done at home, in a more focused way.

Even if we get an actual hour by hour this time it'll be full of half truths when he spends an hour "Looking for jobs" which was actually 10 minutes on Craigslist, three movie blogs he read, a toilet break, some snacks and a phone call to a friend to shoot poo poo about the last mature gritty graphic novel they both read.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


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Kaishai posted:

There's one thing about this entry I like. The use of silver is not bad. You've put it in more as a color than a metal, but that does the job, and this take on the element is valid without being obvious or expected.

Otherwise, it's a wreck. Very little happens in it. Ninety-five percent of the story is a guy wanting to see the oracle, going to see the oracle, and receiving a prophecy, and you drag 'wanting to see the oracle' in particular out as long as you can. 'I once had my future told by an oracle.' 'I decided to have my fate revealed to me by the oracle at the temple.' '“I wish to see the oracle,” I told him.' '“Oh great oracle, I have come to seek my destiny.”' Over and over and over again, you tell me the same thing: he wants to see the oracle. Condense it and move on! The repetitions aren't only annoying to read, they're wasted words and wasted time. I know nothing about your protagonist other than that he wants to have his fortune told. You could have spent some of your text giving him a personality.

The final five percent is the protagonist doing exactly what the oracle said s/he would. Why? No idea. There's no dramatic shock to this, you know. Without a sense of who the protagonist is or why he does what he does, all tragedy and frankly all interest is missing from your final revelation. Nor does the story say anything profound about fate, if that was your intention. You toss out some platitudes and then have the protagonist fulfill the prophecy as though that proves something. It doesn't.

Grammatically... actually, your grammar's not all that bad. Your basic mechanical errors are small and few: 'become' when the traditional phrase is 'come of age,' 'God' capitalized when the context says it should be in lowercase, two different people speaking in your second-to-last paragraph--okay, that's not a small error. That's abominable. But you mostly did fine on the technical front. Your prose, though, is bland to a fault. Simple prose isn't always bad, but you've partnered it here with scenario familiar enough to be a fantasy/myth cliche, and the result is literary whey.

You should focus on plot and characterization as you keep writing and competing; you gave me neither here, and that just won't do.

Uncle Salty
Jan 19, 2008
BOYS
^^ That's some good fiction writing advice, there. FREE ON THE INTERNET!

The thing that sets off all my alarm bells about Benny is the repeated phrases: "I'm gonna", "I'm gonna lean in", "I did good" and "my plan is to". If you go through his posts, you see variations of that mindset repeated. Benny the Snake, you're always either planning for something (that seems far enough away that you don't have to do anything) or patting yourself on the back for the simplest, most basic task. I believe in baby steps. In fact, I am supposed to be writing a cover letter right now, but I've only done the outline and now I'm here, avoiding my real work. But you don't get to congratulate yourself for "leaning in" after making a phone call in response to a craigslist posting.

I supervise a person who needs praise for completing every single task, including arriving to meetings on time. It's incredibly frustrating to deal with this mindset so I made him start keeping a daily progress report on a google doc. That way, I figured I could support his workstyle, and keep on his every movement at my own pace.

Now, he comes to me to tell me that he updated the google doc. :wtc:

Update your internal google doc, and move on to the next step.

Why am I even bothering.

No Longer Flaky
Nov 16, 2013

by Lowtax

Uncle Salty posted:

^^ That's some good fiction writing advice, there. FREE ON THE INTERNET!

The thing that sets off all my alarm bells about Benny is the repeated phrases: "I'm gonna", "I'm gonna lean in", "I did good" and "my plan is to". If you go through his posts, you see variations of that mindset repeated. Benny the Snake, you're always either planning for something (that seems far enough away that you don't have to do anything) or patting yourself on the back for the simplest, most basic task. I believe in baby steps. In fact, I am supposed to be writing a cover letter right now, but I've only done the outline and now I'm here, avoiding my real work. But you don't get to congratulate yourself for "leaning in" after making a phone call in response to a craigslist posting.

I supervise a person who needs praise for completing every single task, including arriving to meetings on time. It's incredibly frustrating to deal with this mindset so I made him start keeping a daily progress report on a google doc. That way, I figured I could support his workstyle, and keep on his every movement at my own pace.

Now, he comes to me to tell me that he updated the google doc. :wtc:

Update your internal google doc, and move on to the next step.

Why am I even bothering.

Hey I posted in this thread, commend me.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


No Longer Flaky posted:

Hey I posted in this thread, commend me.

Good job bro :downsbravo:

DamnitGannet
Apr 8, 2007

I still can't believe Benny hasn't been able to find even a job in fast food in a whole year. That boggles my fuckin' mind.

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

DamnitGannet posted:

I still can't believe Benny hasn't been able to find even a job in fast food in a whole year. That boggles my fuckin' mind.

He has been fired from multiple jobs after a week on the job and puts them on his resume still. If I was the hiring manager at McDonalds and I saw someone that dumb I wouldn't hire them for fear they'd try to scoop fries out of the fryer by hand. There's "so dumb he can't function in the situation" and then there's "so dumb he can't recognize there is a situation" and Benny is firmly in the second camp.

Remember, he's the kind of guy who thought calling in drunk when he wasn't was a good idea.

No Longer Flaky
Nov 16, 2013

by Lowtax

Sigma-X posted:

He has been fired from multiple jobs after a week on the job and puts them on his resume still. If I was the hiring manager at McDonalds and I saw someone that dumb I wouldn't hire them for fear they'd try to scoop fries out of the fryer by hand. There's "so dumb he can't function in the situation" and then there's "so dumb he can't recognize there is a situation" and Benny is firmly in the second camp.

Remember, he's the kind of guy who thought calling in drunk when he wasn't was a good idea.

One time I tried to call out of work because I was "sick". They asked me what I was sick with and I told them diarrhea. My friend had told me that was foolproof. It wasn't. They wanted me to get a doctors note. I got fired a few weeks later for no call no show.

I am still a better job candidate than Benny for any job ever.

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

No Longer Flaky posted:

One time I tried to call out of work because I was "sick". They asked me what I was sick with and I told them diarrhea. My friend had told me that was foolproof. It wasn't. They wanted me to get a doctors note. I got fired a few weeks later for no call no show.

I am still a better job candidate than Benny for any job ever.

To be fair, requiring a doctor's note for what could easily be "I ate something that didn't agree with me and now I'm making GBS threads my brains out" would sound like either a lovely job or a lovely boss to me.

But that's neither here nor there.

Foyes36
Oct 23, 2005

Food fight!

No Longer Flaky posted:

One time I tried to call out of work because I was "sick". They asked me what I was sick with and I told them diarrhea. My friend had told me that was foolproof. It wasn't. They wanted me to get a doctors note. I got fired a few weeks later for no call no show.

I am still a better job candidate than Benny for any job ever.

Wait, you had to go to the doctor to get a note anytime you called in sick? Like, what if you just had a nasty cold or something? You feel like poo poo and don't want to spread it to your coworkers, but you're hardly going to see a physician over something so easily resolved (and pointless to see a doctor for, considering that they can do gently caress all for colds besides tell you to drink water and munch on cough drops).

Benny, have you tried to use any of your family connections to find work lately?

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

Pfirti86 posted:

Wait, you had to go to the doctor to get a note anytime you called in sick? Like, what if you just had a nasty cold or something? You feel like poo poo and don't want to spread it to your coworkers, but you're hardly going to see a physician over something so easily resolved (and pointless to see a doctor for, considering that they can do gently caress all for colds besides tell you to drink water and munch on cough drops).

Benny, have you tried to use any of your family connections to find work lately?

He might have had a history of calling in a lot. Or it was a super paranoid and lovely employer.

No Longer Flaky
Nov 16, 2013

by Lowtax
Nah I didn't have a history of calling in a lot, I had recently changed my availability because I needed to spend more time on my classes (I was in high school and calculus was kicking my rear end). The manager there was just a jerk.

Who the hell goes to the doctor for diarrhea?

Uncle Salty
Jan 19, 2008
BOYS

No Longer Flaky posted:

Hey I posted in this thread, commend me.
Good job, guy. You did good today. You made a good impression on thread.

Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



No Longer Flaky posted:



Who the hell goes to the doctor for diarrhea?

Exactly. When I want diarrhoea I just go get KFC or Burger King.

In all seriousness I am mildly excited to see if Benny takes on board the criticism and improves this next Thunderdome. I wait with bated breath.

Grin and Tonic
Oct 20, 2008

having a blast online
Man, you motherfuckers are gonna be sorry when you see Benny's name on the New York Times bestseller list

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?

Grin and Tonic posted:

Man, you motherfuckers are gonna be sorry when you see Benny's name on the New York Times bestseller list

Do you... Have silver eyes?

Masonity fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 16, 2014

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES

Grin and Tonic posted:

Man, you motherfuckers are gonna be sorry when you see Benny's name on the New York Times bestseller list
I doubt it. I constantly put myself down, calling myself an idiot and my writing poo poo. Thanks to counseling I'm catching myself doing it, but it's a hard habit to break. That was my mindset when I posted my first Thunderdome story. I kept telling myself it was poo poo and I expected the bad criticism. Now I'm actually taking my time with my new Thunderdome story and I'm confident that it's a good story. Not anything that will win me this week's prompt, but good enough.

Speaking of which, I have until ten my time to post my story. Is there anyone out there who'd be willing to take a look at it? I don't feel comfortable enough posting it here, but I'd be willing to send it to you. My main concern is that even for an anecdote, it's too much tell and not enough show. My AIM handle is on my profile: feel free to reach me there if you want to take a look at it.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk

Benny the Snake posted:

I doubt it. I constantly put myself down, calling myself an idiot and my writing poo poo. Thanks to counseling I'm catching myself doing it, but it's a hard habit to break. That was my mindset when I posted my first Thunderdome story. I kept telling myself it was poo poo and I expected the bad criticism. Now I'm actually taking my time with my new Thunderdome story and I'm confident that it's a good story. Not anything that will win me this week's prompt, but good enough.

Speaking of which, I have until ten my time to post my story. Is there anyone out there who'd be willing to take a look at it? I don't feel comfortable enough posting it here, but I'd be willing to send it to you. My main concern is that even for an anecdote, it's too much tell and not enough show. My AIM handle is on my profile: feel free to reach me there if you want to take a look at it.

I would. Hit me on messenger.

Ausmund
Jan 24, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

DamnitGannet posted:

I still can't believe Benny hasn't been able to find even a job in fast food in a whole year. That boggles my fuckin' mind.
He plays League of Legends all day on his free internet at his free place to live but will put in an app every so often to avoid feeling guilty. When he puts in an app that's when he'll post in the thread to make it appear that he's trying, which explains the disparity in his posts.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
And there. My Thunderdome story is posted. I had three different people take a look at it and I put a lot of thought into this one so I hope this redeems me somewhat.

Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Feb 17, 2014

Arkane
Dec 19, 2006

by R. Guyovich
It's not bad. I enjoyed reading it. Ending was a little contrived, but whatever. Roughly 800% better than the previous entry.

Your thread inspired me to enter that t-dome.

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

Benny the Snake posted:

I hope this redeems myself

I wish someone with an english degree could tell me why this sounds so awkward. "this redeems me", or "i redeem myself" both sound better, but I don't for the life of me know what sort of grammatical rules dictate this sort of sentence structure.

Shelf Adventure
Jul 18, 2006
I'm down with that brother

Ursine Asylum posted:

I wish someone with an english degree could tell me why this sounds so awkward. "this redeems me", or "i redeem myself" both sound better, but I don't for the life of me know what sort of grammatical rules dictate this sort of sentence structure.

I thinks it's because the subject of the verb (I.e. The person or thing doing the verb) isn't the same as the object (the thing having the verb done to it) so using "self" doesn't really work.

"I wash myself" sounds okay because the "I" is the same person as "myself".

"I wash himself" doesn't because "I" is a different person to "him".

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Ursine Asylum posted:

I wish someone with an english degree could tell me why this sounds so awkward. "this redeems me", or "i redeem myself" both sound better, but I don't for the life of me know what sort of grammatical rules dictate this sort of sentence structure.
Its a common error because myself sounds like an elevated form of me, but it actually means something slightly different.

'Myself' is reflexive: 'he put himself through college'. Benny had a separate subject/object; 'I hope this (subject) redeems me (object)'. If the subject was him it would have been fine: 'I hope I (subject) have redeemed myself (object)' is fine.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Ursine Asylum posted:

I wish someone with an english degree could tell me why this sounds so awkward. "this redeems me", or "i redeem myself" both sound better, but I don't for the life of me know what sort of grammatical rules dictate this sort of sentence structure.
"Myself" is reflexive, and has to agree grammatically with whatever it is referring to. "This redeems itself" or "I redeem myself" are fine because this/it and I/my go together. This/my do not.

e: f,b

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

Shelf Adventure, sebmojo, and SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

:eng101:

Man, I learn so much from this thread. :allears:

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Ursine Asylum posted:

Man, I learn so much from this thread. :allears:
Hey, you guys rushed the 'dome. We've had more entries this week than ever before. It's only natural we poked our heads back around to see where all the noise was coming from.

Also Benny, good work this week. Your story wasn't perfect, but it's such a shockingly huge improvement from last week that I can't bring myself to slam you down. You can do good work if you put that extra bit of effort in.

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DopeGhoti
May 24, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

Benny the Snake posted:

The first thing I noticed was the giant holes in the ground in the back yard.

"The first thing I noticed" should be a single thing. Since the holes were more numerous than one, I would suggest "The first things I noticed were the giant holes in the ground in the back yard."

Benny posted:

I got my shirt stained and my Dodgers hat covered in white. I had to step outside after getting lightheaded off the fumes

"Covered in white" seems awkward. "Covered in white paint" or "Covered in primer" would work better here. If the shirt was similarly stained, probably this could be "My shirt and Dodgers hat were ruined by the primer."

"Getting lightheaded off of (or from) the fumes".

Benny posted:

He came over and cut the trees down with a chainsaw. I watch dejectedly as he fed them into the wood chipper.
Here, you are abruptly switching from past to present tense, which is very jarring to the reader. Don't do this.

You spend far too much time describing the house itself at the beginning. The solar panels and swamp cooler have nothing to do with anything, there's no point to bringing them up. You (claim to have) studied this stuff; have you not heard of Chekhov's Gun?

Much, much better than The Oracle.

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