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Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Best way to play the game is as a Breton with Spear, Heavy Armor, Conjuration, and Alchemy as major skills, everything else can be whatever. Take the Atronach sign. Use potions to restore magicka. Go get all the bound spells ASAP (I think you can get them all from Balmora) and make a spell to give you a full suit of bound armor and a spear, it's surprisingly cheap. Spear and Heavy Armor increase your endurance, Conjuration and Alchemy increase your intelligence. Also you're pretty much immune to magic.

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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

why the hell aint they released Morrowind on mac yet. poo poo was ported to xbox

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Quantum of Phallus posted:

why the hell aint they released Morrowind on mac yet. poo poo was ported to xbox

lol

rocket_man38
Jan 23, 2006

My life is a barrel o' fun!!

Quantum of Phallus posted:

why the hell aint they released Morrowind on mac yet. poo poo was ported to xbox

Games on mac? Is that a thing now?

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Quantum of Phallus posted:

why the hell aint they released Morrowind on mac yet. poo poo was ported to xbox

ah the first xbox was basically a pc and was also boss

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



should have saved $1000 and got a ballin windows machine instead if you wanted to play games

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

gggiiimmmppp posted:

should have saved $1000 and got a ballin windows machine instead if you wanted to play games

i amn't running pro tools on windows, gently caress that

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

gggiiimmmppp posted:

should have saved $1000 and got a ballin windows machine instead if you wanted to play games

im talking in 2002 language bud. there was halo to be played and i guess ill pick up this weird morrowind game cause its only 15 bucks used

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Blue Raider posted:

im talking in 2002 language bud. there was halo to be played and i guess ill pick up this weird morrowind game cause its only 15 bucks used

my answer is timeless though

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Quantum of Phallus posted:

why the hell aint they released Morrowind on mac yet. poo poo was ported to xbox

its been unofficially ported, just use that?

Incursus
Sep 17, 2012

NOTHING LIKE HAVING THE BEST OEGAMIOM IN THE WORLD EVERYDAY!

Fister Roboto posted:

Best way to play the game is as a Breton with Spear, Heavy Armor, Conjuration, and Alchemy as major skills, everything else can be whatever. Take the Atronach sign. Use potions to restore magicka. Go get all the bound spells ASAP (I think you can get them all from Balmora) and make a spell to give you a full suit of bound armor and a spear, it's surprisingly cheap. Spear and Heavy Armor increase your endurance, Conjuration and Alchemy increase your intelligence. Also you're pretty much immune to magic.

Why is this specifically the best way to play? Thinking about playing another round and I have never gone with heavy armor in any TES game, might try this.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

hailthefish posted:

Oh god I can hear them

I actually taught myself how to do that voice without any effects and it really, really sucks after more than a sentence or two.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

It's pretty easy. The first step is to smoke a pack of cigarettes every day for thirty years.

Zero Star
Jan 22, 2006

Robit the paranoid blogger.

calusari posted:

gently caress the police


I like this but it would have been so much more fitting to have it on the roof of the Temple canton in Vivec City

also the three Great Houses that you could join were essentially a glorified alternative Fighter/Mage/Thieves Guild questline

Zero Star fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 16, 2014

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.
Halfway!

The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec: Sermon Eighteen

Now Vivec felt that he had taught the Hortator as much as he could before the war with the Dwemer came. The warrior-poet decided he had to begin his Book of Hours at that point, because the world was about to bend with its age.

Vivec entered the Mourning Hold and announced to Ayem that he was going to fight nine monsters that had escaped the Muatra.

'I will return,' he said, 'to deal the last blow to the grand architect of the Dwemer.'

Ayem said, 'Out of nine you will find only eight, though they be mighty. The last is already destroyed by your decision to create the Book of Hours.'

Vivec understood that Ayem meant himself.

'Why,' she asked, 'are you in doubt?'

Vivec knew that his doubt made him the sword of the Triune and so he did not feel shame or fear. Instead, he explained and these are the words:

'Can a member of the Invisible Gate become so archaic that its successor is not so much an improvement of the exact model, but rather a related model that is just needed more because of the currency of the world's condition? As the Mother, you do not have to worry, unless things in the future are so strange that even Seht cannot understand. Neither does the Executioner or the Fool, but I am neither.

'These ideals are not going to change in nature, even though they may change in representation. But, even in the west, the Rainmaker vanishes. No one needs him anymore.

'Can one oust the model not because the model is set according to an ideal but because it is tied to an ever-changing unconscious mortal agenda?'

This is what was said to Ayem when Vivec was whole. The wise shall not mistake this.

Ayem said, 'This is why you were born of a netchiman's wife and destined to merge with the simulacrum of your mother, gilled and blended in all the arts of the star-wounded East, under water and in fire and in metal and in ash, six times the wise, to became the union of male and female, the magic hermaphrodite, the martial axiom, the sex-death of language and unique in all the middle world.'

Vivec knew then why he would record his Book of Hours.

This sermon is forbidden.

In this world and others EIGHTEEN less one (the victor) is the magical disk, hurled to reach heaven by violence.

This sermon is untrue.

The ending of the world is ALMSIVI.

Zero Star
Jan 22, 2006

Robit the paranoid blogger.
When you're done with the Vivec lessons, please post A Dance In Fire :)

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

01011001 posted:

its been unofficially ported, just use that?

i guess so. mac gaming blows

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Incursus posted:

Why is this specifically the best way to play? Thinking about playing another round and I have never gone with heavy armor in any TES game, might try this.

it's good because it boosts the important stats with the skills you'll level up all the time and you can summon weightless top tier armour/weapons with a simple spell that bretons are good at due to their knack for conjuration, also you have shitloads of magicka, are practically immune to spells, and you absorb magic if it's cast at you which means if you need more magic to summon your battlesuit you can go and pester a scrib for a bit

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

“I think the greatest warrior who ever lived had to be Vilus Nommenus,” offered Xiomara. “Name one other warrior who conquered more territory.”
“Tiber Septim obviously,” said Hallgerd.
“He wasn't a warrior, he was an administrator, a politician,” said Garaz. “And besides, acreage conquered can't be final means of determining the best warrior. How about skill with a blade?”
“There are other weapons than blades,” objected Xiomara. “Why not skill with an axe or a bow? Who was the greatest master of all weaponry?”
“I can't think of one greatest master of all weaponry,” said Hallgerd. “Balaxes of Agia Nero in Black Marsh was the greatest wielder of a lance. Ernse Llervu of the Ashlands is the greatest master of the club I've ever seen. The greatest master of the katana is probably an Akaviri warlord we've never heard of. As far as archery goes --”
“Pelinal Whitestrake supposedly conquered all of Tamriel by himself,” interrupted Xiomara.
“That was before the First Era,” said Garaz. “It's probably mostly myth. But there are all sorts of great warriors of the modern eras. The Camoran Usurper? The unknown hero who brought together the Staff of Chaos and defeated Jagar Tharn?”
“We can't declare an unknown champion as the greatest warrior. What about Nandor Beraid, the Empress Katariah's champion?” suggested Xiomara. “They said he could use any weapon ever invented.”
“But what happened to him?” smiled Garaz. “He was drowned in the Sea of Ghosts because he couldn't get his armor off. Call me overly particular, but I think the greatest warrior in the world should know how to take armor off.”
“It's kinda hard to judge ability to wear armor as a skill,” said Xiomara. “Either you have basic functionality in a suit of armor or you don't.”
“That's not true,” said Hallgerd. “There are masters in that as well, people who can do things while wearing armor better than we can out of armor. Have you ever heard of Hlaalu Pasoroth, the King's great grandfather?”
Xiomara and Garaz admitted that they had not.
“This was hundreds and hundreds of years ago, and Pasoroth was the ruler of a great estate which he had won by right of being the greatest warrior in the land. It's been said, and truly, that much of the House's current power is based on Pasoroth's earnings as a warrior. Every week he held games at his castle, pitting his skill against the champions of the neighboring estates, and every week, he won something. His great skill wasn't in the use of weaponry, though he was decent enough with an axe and a long sword, but in his ability to move quickly and with great agility wearing a full suit of heavy mail. There were some who said that he moved faster while wearing armor than he did out of it.
“Some months before this story begins, he had won the daughter of one of his neighbors, a beautiful creature named Mena who he had made his wife. He loved her very much, but he was intensely jealous, and with good reason. She wasn't very pleased with his husbandly skills, and the only reason Mena never strayed was because Pasoroth kept a close eye on her. She was, to put it kindly, naturally amorous and resentful of her position as a prize. Wherever he went, he always brought her with him. At the games, she was placed in a special box so that he could see her even while he competed.
“But his real competition, though he didn't know it, was from a handsome young armorer he also had won at one of his competitions. Mena had noticed him, and the armorer, whose name was Taren, had certainly noticed her.”
“This has all the makings of a dirty joke, Hallgerd,” said Xiomara, with a smile.
“I swear that it's entirely true,” said Hallgerd. “The problem facing the lovers was, of course, that they could never be alone. Perhaps because of this, it became a burning obsession to both of them. Taren decided that the best time for them to consummate their love was during the games. Mena feigned illness, so she didn't have to stay in the box, but Pasoroth visited the sickroom every few minutes between fights, so Taren and Mena could never get together. The sound of Pasoroth's armor clunking up the stairs to visit his sick wife gave Taren the idea.
“He crafted his lord a new suit of armor, strong, and bright, and beautifully decorated. For his purposes, Taren rubbed the leg joints with luca dust so the more he sweated and the more he moved them, the more they'd stick together. After a little while, Taren figured, Pasoroth wouldn't be able to walk very quickly, and wouldn't have enough time in between fights to visit his wife. But just in case, Taren also added bells to the legs which rung loudly when they moved, so the couple would be able to hear him coming in plenty of time.
“When the games commenced the following week, Mena feigned illness again and Taren presented his lord with the new armor. Pasoroth was delighted with it, as Taren hoped he would be, and donned it for his first fight. Taren then stole upstairs to Mena's bedchamber.
“All was silent outside as the two began to make love. Suddenly, Mena noticed a peculiar expression on Taren's face and before she had a chance to ask him about it, his head fell off at the neck. Pasoroth was standing behind him with his axe in hand.”
“How did he get upstairs so quickly, with his leg joints gummed up? And didn't they hear the bells ringing?” asked Garaz.
“Well, you see, when Pasoroth realized he couldn't walk on his legs very quickly, he walked on his hands.”
“I don't believe it,” laughed Xiomara.
“What happened next?” asked Garaz. “Did Pasoroth kill Mena also?”
“No one knows exactly what happened next,” said Hallgerd. “Pasoroth didn't return for the next game, nor for the next. Finally, at the fourth game, he returned to fight, and Mena appeared in the box to watch. She didn't appear to be sick anymore. In fact, she was smiling and had a light flush to her face.”
“They did it?” cried Xiomara.
“I don't have all the salacious details, except that after the battle, it took ten squires thirteen hours to get Pasoroth's armor off because of all the luca dust mixed with sweat.”
“I don't understand, you mean, he didn't take his armor off when they -- but how?”
“Like I said,” replied Hallgerd. “This is a story about someone who was more agile and accomplished in his armor than out of it.”
“Now, that's skill,” said Garaz.

Scatsby
Dec 25, 2007

All the builds I see here are well and good except who the gently caress dies to magic in Morrowind? I died to magic damage once in hundreds of hours of playtime, and that was as an Altmer born under the Apprentice.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

Cantorsdust posted:

Halfway!

The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec: Sermon Eighteen

Now Vivec felt that he had taught the Hortator as much as he could before the war with the Dwemer came. The warrior-poet decided he had to begin his Book of Hours at that point, because the world was about to bend with its age.

Vivec entered the Mourning Hold and announced to Ayem that he was going to fight nine monsters that had escaped the Muatra.

'I will return,' he said, 'to deal the last blow to the grand architect of the Dwemer.'

Ayem said, 'Out of nine you will find only eight, though they be mighty. The last is already destroyed by your decision to create the Book of Hours.'

Vivec understood that Ayem meant himself.

'Why,' she asked, 'are you in doubt?'

Vivec knew that his doubt made him the sword of the Triune and so he did not feel shame or fear. Instead, he explained and these are the words:

'Can a member of the Invisible Gate become so archaic that its successor is not so much an improvement of the exact model, but rather a related model that is just needed more because of the currency of the world's condition? As the Mother, you do not have to worry, unless things in the future are so strange that even Seht cannot understand. Neither does the Executioner or the Fool, but I am neither.

'These ideals are not going to change in nature, even though they may change in representation. But, even in the west, the Rainmaker vanishes. No one needs him anymore.

'Can one oust the model not because the model is set according to an ideal but because it is tied to an ever-changing unconscious mortal agenda?'

This is what was said to Ayem when Vivec was whole. The wise shall not mistake this.

Ayem said, 'This is why you were born of a netchiman's wife and destined to merge with the simulacrum of your mother, gilled and blended in all the arts of the star-wounded East, under water and in fire and in metal and in ash, six times the wise, to became the union of male and female, the magic hermaphrodite, the martial axiom, the sex-death of language and unique in all the middle world.'

Vivec knew then why he would record his Book of Hours.

This sermon is forbidden.

In this world and others EIGHTEEN less one (the victor) is the magical disk, hurled to reach heaven by violence.

This sermon is untrue.

The ending of the world is ALMSIVI.
It might be because I'm slowly slipping into a headache but this one makes the least sense to me..

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
After repurchasing it off steam, installing it, getting it all modded exactly how I want I've realised a very important thing. Morrowind is fun to talk about but not so fun to play anymore.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Emasculator posted:

All the builds I see here are well and good except who the gently caress dies to magic in Morrowind? I died to magic damage once in hundreds of hours of playtime, and that was as an Altmer born under the Apprentice.

That one wizard in the cave outside Seyda Neen :negative:

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Fister Roboto posted:

That one wizard in the cave outside Seyda Neen :negative:

you can easily kill the first guard and free the slaves and then gently caress off without alerting the wizard

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

Fister Roboto posted:

That one wizard in the cave outside Seyda Neen :negative:

I blew him the gently caress up, though he seemed a bit distracted and never cast at me.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

Emasculator posted:

All the builds I see here are well and good except who the gently caress dies to magic in Morrowind? I died to magic damage once in hundreds of hours of playtime, and that was as an Altmer born under the Apprentice.
this is true now that i think about it, which is odd. i guess its much preferable to the loving mages in skyrim who oneshot you with big ice spikes as soon as they spot you on any difficulty above normal. i guess its my fault for trying to play bethesda games on hard difficulties and expecting balance, but my primary experience with skyrim was really one of frustration and intense terror at the prospect of maybe seeing a dude in a skirt around the next corner.

Guildenstern Mother
Mar 31, 2010

Why walk when you can ride?

gggiiimmmppp posted:

you can easily kill the first guard and free the slaves and then gently caress off without alerting the wizard

Yeah I guess if you're some kind of scrub.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:

this is true now that i think about it, which is odd. i guess its much preferable to the loving mages in skyrim who oneshot you with big ice spikes as soon as they spot you on any difficulty above normal. i guess its my fault for trying to play bethesda games on hard difficulties and expecting balance, but my primary experience with skyrim was really one of frustration and intense terror at the prospect of maybe seeing a dude in a skirt around the next corner.

I think part of it is that all you have to do to defeat a mage is to slowly sidestep whenever he casts a spell until he runs out of magicka.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



WanderingMinstrel I posted:

Yeah I guess if you're some kind of scrub.

naturally you can go back when you're not fresh off the boat from imperial prison and introduce that uppity gently caress to your daedric daikatana

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

it's not so much "noo mages" as it is dudes in dresses being kind enough to recharge your mana for you midbattle

same with traps - never probe again

Guildenstern Mother
Mar 31, 2010

Why walk when you can ride?

gggiiimmmppp posted:

naturally you can go back when you're not fresh off the boat from imperial prison and introduce that uppity gently caress to your daedric daikatana

You can just move side to side and dodge his fireballs till he runs out of mana he's got poo poo aim.

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.

Fister Roboto posted:

Better yet, just be a Breton (because Bretons are already really goon on their own) and turn your screen brightness up a little.

e: good not goon, but leaving it anyway

You also increase your chance to miss by not having 100% resist.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

If you actually need to hit something with a weapon you can just take the boots off temporarily.

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Quantum of Phallus posted:

i guess so. mac gaming blows

just bootcamp that poo poo and dont worry about it ever again

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~
I was always afraid of the Atronach birthsign and I guess its because I tried it once and had a great character that was stuck with no way out. It was in a little hole and the way out was blocked by a large rockslide. I didnt have potions and I couldn't level up my acrobatics thanks to Mr. rear end in a top hat Bosmer planting an arrow in my forehead whenever I tried to climb.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
Make me a character. Right now. Don't care what the gently caress it is. I will play and beat the game with it.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

The Atronach is ridiculously good in Morrowind because it just means that you don't regenerate magicka when you sleep. Even without alchemy it's really easy to find restore magicka potions and other effects.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

SunAndSpring posted:

Make me a character. Right now. Don't care what the gently caress it is. I will play and beat the game with it.

major skills
mercantile
speechcraft
unarmored
short blade

whatever else

Bright Future
Oct 9, 2007

[let's] fuck that crazy-ass robot
I have 110% magic resist and chest traps still occasionally damage me. Bullshit. :mad:

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Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

SunAndSpring posted:

Make me a character. Right now. Don't care what the gently caress it is. I will play and beat the game with it.

Unarmoured
Mercantile
Speechcraft
Blunt Weapons

Speed and Luck.

Nord.

You cannot use anything else. No spells. No sharp weapons.

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