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CPColin posted:Oops: 1. Tell him to cool it and just trust that the reds will start to flow. If he continues to delay the kick, toss a yellow his way, too. 2. Punish him. If he'd slid out of the box in dry conditions, you would have. 3. Unapproved equipment. Wear all eleven hats on your own head.
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CPColin posted:Oops: 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTAui5ToSu0 2) He could have punched it away/thrown it/let go, punish and keep the game going, monitor situation 3) Punch their smug faces and tell them to lose the hats
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Feb 17, 2014 00:44
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CPColin posted:Oops: 1. See, this is where a similar system of refereeing to rugby union would be perfect. In rugby, the ref would call in both captains and have a stern word to them, which will be passed on to the team. They will also be told in no uncertain terms that the next offence will be a card, of a colour that will be decided then. Anyway, to answer the question, tell the captain to cool his jets and take the loving kick already, and send the next fucker off who tries to pull any poo poo. 2. Penalise him, free kick to opposition. Monitor situation and if it becomes a regular thing, abandon game. 3. Tell them to get rid of the hats. Make the manager wear all 11 hats, under threat of ejection to the stands if he loses any of them.
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Feb 17, 2014 01:19
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CPColin posted:Oops: 1) Tell him to shut up, yellow if he keeps it up. 2) Let it go this time, give him a verbal warning. 3a) What's a parks game? 3b) This is soccer not baseball, take that poo poo off.
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Feb 17, 2014 02:16
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1. Tell him you got this. Yellow card for dissent. 2. Penalize depending how far he went out. If it was barely, have a word. If it was a lot, free kick and monitor game. 3. Keepers can also use their hands and wear flamboyant kits different than the teams. You wanna wear a hat, be a keeper. Take em off or they forfeit.
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Feb 19, 2014 03:22
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Captain Trips posted:3a) What's a parks game? a game in a park
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Feb 20, 2014 03:53
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Oh yeah:Kieth Hakcett posted:1) The captain should not be showing dissent in this way – and you may have to consider cautioning him, too – but he does have a point. You have applied the law, but you've failed to control the players' behaviour. Once you spotted what was happening – after the third caution – you should have called over the away side's captain and issued a firm, public warning against the use of this cynical tactic, making clear any further targeting of the winger risks a red card. As it is, deal with the captain's dissent, and point out that if his side refuses to take the free-kick then the game will be abandoned and the facts reported to the authorities.
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Feb 20, 2014 04:03
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Guess they got tired of the "easy" ones: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/20/you-are-the-ref-paul-trevillion
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Feb 22, 2014 05:41
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1) Uh, claim the shoe is an outside agent or something and restart with a dropped ball. 2) Play on. The assistant's dumbass flag is part of the pitch. If the assistant thinks the ball went out before it deflected back in, ask him why he was standing so far back. Throw the defender's shoe at him. 3) I want to say, "Play on!" but I bet Hackett is going to say that the missing flag is not up to regulations and blah blah blah stop the game immediately blah.
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Feb 22, 2014 05:45
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Stop play, coax the shoe to safety.
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Feb 22, 2014 06:10
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1. Play on 2. Play on, yell at lino for being an idiot 3. Play on, laugh at guy who slipped
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Feb 22, 2014 11:53
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I have a feeling it's been changed in recent years, but there is (or at least used to be) a rule whereby the ball had to move it's full circumference in order for a set piece to be taken. If it's only gone inches, then the ball may not be live.
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Feb 22, 2014 21:30
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Mickolution posted:I have a feeling it's been changed in recent years, but there is (or at least used to be) a rule whereby the ball had to move it's full circumference in order for a set piece to be taken. If it's only gone inches, then the ball may not be live. You are correct in the first instance. There is no longer any requirement for the ball to move a given distance on a restart, only that it is kicked and moves (and, only in the case of kickoffs and penalties, moves forward). quote:Keith Hackett's verdict
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Feb 25, 2014 16:33
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Lamont Cranston posted:You are correct in the first instance. There is no longer any requirement for the ball to move a given distance on a restart, only that it is kicked and moves (and, only in the case of kickoffs and penalties, moves forward). Yeah, I had a feeling that rule wasn't there any more.
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Feb 25, 2014 20:33
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/27/you-are-the-ref-paul-trevillion
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Feb 28, 2014 23:08
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1) Tough titties. 2) Give the basketball referee signal for traveling and award ball to the defense. 3) Tell the taker to quit being so stupid and just kick the ball while the keeper is in the air.
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Feb 28, 2014 23:09
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Didn't some Mexican player used to do the thing in the first panel all the time?
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Feb 28, 2014 23:19
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1) Punch both captains in the face and tell them to get on with it. Make note of it in your livejournal. 2) Cool goal, bro. 3) Punch the penalty taker for being such a dick.
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Feb 28, 2014 23:34
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Gigi Galli posted:Didn't some Mexican player used to do the thing in the first panel all the time? Yeah, somebody from one of the horrid countries did it at a World Cup once to avoid a tackle and the commentators went on and on about how this was the new Cruyff turn and now everyone would be doing it. Then nobody ever did it again because it's loving stupid.
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Feb 28, 2014 23:38
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I think I remember Darius Vassell doing that, maybe while playing for Villa. Only he went one better and actually rolled around on the floor with the ball between his feet for a little while to avoid defenders. There was a youtube of this, but now I can't find it.
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Mar 1, 2014 00:05
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Gigi Galli posted:Didn't some Mexican player used to do the thing in the first panel all the time? Cumquat Blanco used to do it.
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Tigren posted:Cumquat Blanco used to do it. Cuauhtémoc Blanco, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFu_sw99MUU
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Mar 1, 2014 06:05
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Keith finally woke up and posted:1) Calling a game off is a very big step. As there are no safety issues here, go ahead and play the game, but ensure that all participants – players, staff, the crowd and the media – are aware that the system is not operational. Report the facts to the relevant competition after the game: they will decide if the result stands. Thanks to Eskil Carlström.
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/06/newcastleunited-laws-of-football
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Mar 7, 2014 19:25
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1. Common decency says to consider the game as having stopped when the leg bones broke through the skin, so I bet Hackett's going to say something about head injuries and say the goal stands. 2. Stop the game, boot the twelfth man, fire the fourth official, and wind the clock back to when the twelfth man came on. No goal. 3. Is this really a question? The only part that matters is where the player was when the ball was played. The player was offside when the ball was played.
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Mar 7, 2014 19:29
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CPColin posted:3. Is this really a question? The only part that matters is where the player was when the ball was played. The player was offside when the ball was played. Can't be offside in your own half, that's the point.
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Mar 7, 2014 19:37
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Edmund Honda posted:Can't be offside in your own half, that's the point. Yeah? The question clearly says the striker was standing in the oppositions half when the ball was played - nothing else matters, it's a clear offside and a stupid question.
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Mar 7, 2014 19:41
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1) I'd sat no goal, if it's really such a horrific injury the game should stop immediately. 2) Send the 12th man off off and report to the authorities. You have hosed up massively and the side with 11 will probably be awarded the win. 3) Offside, obviously.
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Mar 7, 2014 20:11
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Hegay posted:Yeah? The question clearly says the striker was standing in the oppositions half when the ball was played - nothing else matters, it's a clear offside and a stupid question. The striker was in the opposition half when the defender hoofed a clearance kick, but he returned to an onside position when it landed before playing it. Page 31 of the official FIFA rule books states quote:A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by: and I don't think he's actually doing any of those. http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf 1. Goal stands, it's not the striker's fault that the defender got hurt and the keeper ran off. Punch the keeper in the face for failing to play to the whistle and punch the striker in the face for lacking sportsmanship. 2. Wind the clock back to when the 12th man came on, boot him from the pitch, punch the manager in the face 12 times, disallow the goal and make a note of it in your match report. 3. He hasn't committed an actual offside offence, so no, don't intervene. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Vagabundo posted:The striker was in the opposition half when the defender hoofed a clearance kick, but he returned to an onside position when it landed before playing it. He has committed an offside offence. He interfered with play the moment he touched the ball. quote:“interfering with play” means playing or touching the ball passed or http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/37/04/27/interpretation_law11_en.pdf
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Vagabundo posted:The striker was in the opposition half when the defender hoofed a clearance kick, but he returned to an onside position when it landed before playing it. I would look up the definition of "interfering with play". 1) stop the game no goal, if the striker gets upset force him to look at the gross injury until he shuts up 2) depends on whether you've restarted play. If you haven't, disallow the goal, restart with a goal kick. If you have, you can't do anything (besides, obviously, removing the extra man). Either way report the circumstances and get ready to referee 8 year olds for a few months 3) yes intervene before that guy dribbles into loic remy's mouth
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chaoslord posted:He has committed an offside offence. He interfered with play the moment he touched the ball. But he has not actually touched the ball while in an offside position, and has actually returned to an onside position before becoming involved in play. He was offside when the defender hoofed a clearance up the field, but to say that he was in any way interfering with play at that stage is quite a stretch. Plus there's also this from the link provided. 
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Mar 7, 2014 21:42
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1.) Play on and call the stretcher. If the game stops when a defender breaks his leg, then every defender would break their leg to stop the breakaway! 2.) If you've restarted with a kick off, tough. However, if they scored and haven't kicked off yet, you can take the goal away and book the 12th man for entering without permission. Restart with a goal kick. 3.) It's where he was when the ball was kicked. He gained an advantage from being in an offside position when the ball was kicked. Simple as that. Doesn't matter where he stands now or if he "interfered".
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Mar 7, 2014 21:44
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1. Play to the whistle. Goal stands. 2. Say gently caress it, abandon the game because literally everything you can do otherwise will get you lynched. Let the FA deal with it. This would've been more interesting if the side with 11 players had scored, though. 3. Offside.
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Vagabundo posted:But he has not actually touched the ball while in an offside position, and has actually returned to an onside position before becoming involved in play. He was offside when the defender hoofed a clearance up the field, but to say that he was in any way interfering with play at that stage is quite a stretch. But look at the definition for offside you posted. quote:"A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:interfering with play or By what you are trying to say, it is impossible to be offside unless you are challenging an opponent because at the exact moment the ball is played, you can't be interfering with play or gaining an advantage. It's physcially impossible by our definitions to be doing that. And the likelihood of being in contact with an opponent at that exact moment is very unlikely, too. e: and your picture is irrelevant because the player doesnt touch the ball Bio-Hazard posted:He gained an advantage from being in an offside position when the ball was kicked. Simple as that. Doesn't matter where he stands now or if he "interfered". Careful here. In referee talk, "gains an advantage" has a very narrow definition. Specifically, quote:“gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball that
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chaoslord posted:But look at the definition for offside you posted. Well, we don't know if he was interfering with an opponent, or whether or not his side was gaining any sort of advantage by him being on the wrong side of the halfway line. Based on the information provided, it's probably safe to say he was just standing about, not really doing much at that stage, and FIFA's apparent interpretation of the law when it comes to "interfering with play" has an emphasis on whether or not the offending player has actually touched the ball while offside. Our guy, based on the information provided, hasn't actually done that. chaoslord posted:e: and your picture is irrelevant because the player doesnt touch the ball The point is that the player was in an offside position when his team-mate played the ball, yet it's not an offside offence because he hasn't touched the ball while offside, much like the guy in the question. Should (A) be penalised for being offside as soon as his team-mate kicks the ball? According to FIFA's interpretation of the law, he shouldn't and I believe that interpretation is applicable here.
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Well look at that! I guess then I'd say he's interfering with play because he is the play, and he's offside when the ball is kicked. quote:“interfering with play” means playing or touching the ball passed or touched by a team-mate Bio-Hazard fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 22:06
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A player coming back from an offside position when the ball is played to receive the ball in an onside position is a thing happens a lot, it has it's own little ref action to signify what's happened and everything. The only difference here is the player is coming back over the halfway line instead of back behind the last defender. It's clearly offside is what I'm saying. Once he touches the ball without anyone else getting involved that clearance effectively becomes a pass to him, when that pass was made the striker was in an offside position. I'm shocked that this is the one being discussed.
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Mar 8, 2014 00:23
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1) if you give this goal you're a dick that's all I'm saying 2) idk the rules but you should disallow the goal and match report etc and if the rules don't say that as well the rule need changing. Assuming you noticed before play restarts ofc. 3) lol this one is so obviously offside it's madness to suggest otherwise itpo
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Anyone who's watched more than one game of football knows that moving from an offside position when the ball is played to an onside position when the ball is received is still offside. It's a dumb question for dumb people.
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