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Mister Chief
Jun 6, 2011

SA teams only this weekend mate.

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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Mister Chief posted:

SA teams only this weekend mate.

Yeah, I know. I'm counting on the sweet, sweet money to roll in starting week 2.

Coffee Grindr
Jul 4, 2008
Stimulating
Best Friends Forever is in the league.

Someone has to come last, I guess.

Tyma
Dec 22, 2004

I love Leinster and I couldn't be happier that Jordie Barrett has signed with them on a short term deal.

Vagabundo posted:

What are your teams?

01. Owen Franks (Crusaders)
02. Corey Flynn (Crusaders)
03. Ben Franks (Hurricanes)
04. Flip van der Merwe (Bulls)
05. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs)
06. Kane Barrett (Blues)
07. Kieran Read (Crusaders)
08. Phillip van der Walt (Cheetahs)
09. TJ Perenara (Hurricanes)
10. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes)
11. Benji Marshall (Blues)
12. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes)
13. Francois Steyn (Sharks)
14. Israel Folau (Waratahs)
15. Ben Smith (Highlanders)

16. Greg Holmes (Reds)
17. Stephen Moore (Brumbies)
18. Chris van Zyl (Lions)
19. Shalk Berger (Stormers)
20. Will Genia (Reds)
21. Marty Banks (Hurricanes)
22. Ryan Crotty (Crusaders)
23. Nemani Nadolo (Crusaders)

For the second year in a row, Fox Sports' lack of research has allowed me to get 2 Fly Halves in my starting 15 :neckbeard:

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Candy Update

Welsh grocery stores don't sell Rhys' Pieces, but my local supermarket is selling this :

Tyma fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Feb 13, 2014

ElectroMagneticJosh
Oct 13, 2006

Lets Volt In!!
My Team Traitors:

01. Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks)
02. Keven Mealamu (Blues)
03. Werner Kruger (Bulls)
04. Tom Donnelly (Blues)
05. Franco van der Merwe (Lions)
06. Richie McCaw (Crusaders - Captain)
07. Ardie Savea (Hurricanes - Vice Captain)
08. Ryan Kankowski (Sharks)
09. Aaron Smith (Highlanders)
10. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes)
11. Julian Savea (Hurricanes)
12. Francis Saili (Blues)
13. Ryan Crotty (Crusaders)
14. Charles Piutau (Blues)
15. Ben Smith (Hurricanes)

16. Charlie Faumuina (Blues)
17. Dane Coles (Hurricanes)
18. Sam Whitelock (Crusaders)
19. Jerome Kaino (Blues)
20. Andrew Ellis (Crusaders)
21. Louis Fouche (Bulls)
22. Francois Venter (Cheetahs)
23. Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs)


Edit: I may make some changes to above as some of the selections were based on the idea that only SA teams were playing this weekend and I would trade a couple of players out after that (not counting injuries too).

ElectroMagneticJosh fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Feb 13, 2014

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Vagabundo posted:

What are your teams? The Fightin' Flatulists are:

22. Jean de Villiers (Stormers)

You benched Jean de Villiers?

I've gone for Team Failure!

1. Laurens Adriaanse
2. Ben Funnell
3. Benn Robinson
4. Francois Uys
5. Rob Simmons
6. George Whitelock
7. Warren Whiteley
8. Liam Gill

9. Francois Hougaard
10. Christian Lealiifano
11. Israel Folau
12. Ryan Crotty
13. Jean de Villiers
14. Julian Savea
15. Ben Smith

16. Ben Alexander
17. Mahonri Schwalger
18. Hugh Pyle
19. Chris Alcock
20. Alby Mathewson
21. Chris Noakes
22. Jono Lance
23. Gio Aplon

I only have 4 players playing on Saturday, this seems like a bad thing.

Mister Chief
Jun 6, 2011

Mine's just the Lions.

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003
For my professional drinking team I went for players with alcohol related incidents in the past.

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Hatari

1: Coenie Oosthuizen - Cheetahs
2: Dean Greyling - Bulls
3: Adriaan Strauss - Cheetahs (C)
4: Franco van der Merwe - Lions
5: Pieter-Steph du Toit - Sharks
6: Marcell Coatzee - Sharks
7: Pieter "Lappies" Labuschagne - Cheetahs (VC)
8: Derick Minnie - Lions
9: Francois Hougaard - Bulls
10: Pat Lambie - Sharks
11: Bjorn Basson - Bulls
12: Frans Steyn - Sharks
13: JJ Engelbrecht - Bulls
14: Lwazi Mvovo - Sharks
15: Willie Le Roux - Cheetahs

16: Pek Cowan - Western Force
17: Bongi Mbonambi - Bulls
18: Brodie Retallick - Chiefs
19: Jaco Kriel - Lions
20: Brendan McKibbin - Waratahs
21: Christian Lealifano - Brumbies
22: Conrad Smith - Hurricanes
23: Ben Smith - Highlanders

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
The Repo Men, opening weekend line-up:

1. Steven Kitshoff
2. Bismarck Du Plessis
3. Tendai Mtawarira
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Fudge Mabeta [he's never going to get playing time with the Bulls, thought I'd give him a shot...:v:]
6. Rohan Kitshoff
7. Willem Alberts
8. Kieran Read

9. Francois Hougaard
10. Demetri Catrakilis
11. Odwa Ndungane
12. JJ Engelbrecht
13. Francois Steyn
14. Gio Aplon
15. Willie Le Roux [may switch these last two guys, hard to say]

16. Mahonri Schwalger
17. Charlie Faumuina
18. Luke Romano
19. Jacques Potgieter
20. Will Genia
21. Kurtley Beale
22. Chris Tuatara-Morrison [I picked him because he has "Tuatara" in his name]
23. Jaco Taute

I don't know how to do fantasy sports. Kieran Read isn't playing real rugby this weekend, so I guess he can't be my captain...

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Mister Chief posted:

Mine's just the Lions.

Lets suffer together.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:
My team based on players that are playing this weekend that I've heard of and a man named after a battleship.

1. Tendai Mtawarira
2. Bismarck du Plessis (VC)
3. Jannie du Plessis
4. Flip van der Merwe
5. Franco van der Merwe
6. Marcell Coetzee
7. Philip van der Walt
8. Warren Whiteley
9. Michael Bondesio
10. Patrick Lambie
11. Lwazi Mvovo
12. JJ Engelbrecht
13. Jan Serfontain
14. Bjorn Basson
15. Willie Le Roux

16. Morne Mellett
17. Keven Mealamu
18. Lodewyk de Jager
19. Liam Messam
20. Sarel Pretorius
21. Matt Toomua
22. Alwyn Hollenbach
23. Deon van Rensburg

I suspect this is probably a bad choice for the future but it'll hopefully score something this weekend.

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

Vagabundo posted:

What are your teams? The Fightin' Flatulists are:

1. Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders)
2. Mahonri Schwalger (Chiefs)
3. Ben Alexander (Brumbies)
4. Tom Donnelly (Blues)
5. Brodie Retallick (Chiefs)
6. Richie McCaw (Crusaders)
7. Luke Braid (Blues)
8. Kieran Read (Crusaders, Captain)
9. Will Genia (Reds)
10. Aaron Cruden (Chiefs)
11. Gio Aplon (Stormers)
12. Francois Steyn (Sharks)
13. Conrad Smith (Hurricanes, Vice-Captain)
14. Joseph Tomane (Brumbies)
15. Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs)

16. Liam Coltman (Highlanders)
17. Sekope Kepu (Waratahs)
18. Sam Carter (Brumbies)
19. Ardie Savea (Hurricanes)
20. TJ Perenara (Hurricanes)
21. Baden Kerr (Blues)
22. Jean de Villiers (Stormers)
23. Ben Smith (Highlanders)

I don;t follow fantasy super since I spend way too much time on fantasy premier league and NRL as it is, but Richie McCaw seems like a really bad purchase given the likelihood of rest and injury. With Baden Kerr injured and Benji Marshall a huge question mark I'd have a look at Chris Noakes depending on price. Also Marty Banks if he's starting for the 'canes.

JoeSchmoe
Jul 17, 2003

Tyma's grand prize has persuaded me to stop lurking and join the fantasy league as Walesofthe80s. I suspect I will do as well as they did.

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
Secret Toulon Scout is up and running,and I have probably made a number of bad decisions with his team.Picking an Australian prop is a disaster waiting to happen.

1:Coenie Oosthuizen (Cheetahs)
2:Bismarck Du Plessis (Sharks) (C)
3:Ben Franks (Hurricanes)
4:Will Skelton (Waratahs)
5:Flip Van Der Merve (Bulls) (VC)
6:Duane Vermeulen (Stormers)
7:Willem Alberts (Sharks)
8:Pierre Spies (Bulls)
9:Francois Hougaard (Bulls)
10:Pat Lambie (Sharks)
11:Bryan Habana (Stormers)
12:Francois Steyn (Sharks)
13:Robbie Freuan (Chiefs)
14:Willie Le Roux (Cheetahs)
15:Jesse Mogg (Brumbies)

16:Ben Alexander (Brumbies)
17:Mahroni Schwalger (Chiefs)
18:James Horwill (Reds)
19:Ardie Savea (Hurricanes)
20:Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs)
21:Matt Toomua (Brumbies)
22:Pat McCabe (Brumbies)
23:Tim Nanai-Williams (Chiefs)

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


^^great team name.

My predictions for today:
Cheetahs by 14
Sharks by 5

Also, fantasy participants, one quirk I remember from last year - individual player scores are adjusted throughout the weekend, so just because a player has a certain score at the end of a match doesn't mean it'll stick. I think Fox updates live-ish throughout the game (usually easy stuff like tries and yellow cards) and then goes back and adjusts later based on a replay (stuff like tackles). So don't be too dismayed or cocky about your score until sometime Sunday or Monday when it's all finalized.

Tragic Peculiar
May 22, 2008
Welp. Looks like the "knowing nothing about Southern Hemisphere rugby and just picking the SA players with the most points last year" strategy has paid off for this week. :smuggo:

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Tragic Peculiar posted:

Welp. Looks like the "knowing nothing about Southern Hemisphere rugby and just picking the SA players with the most points last year" strategy has paid off for this week. :smuggo:

HA! Were you Henson Text Disaster?

There will be updates in the next day or two so I'd expect standings in the league to shift a bit between now and Monday.

Also, am monitoring Youtube, will post links to the matches from this week for folks to review when they are up. WOOP WOOP!

Tragic Peculiar
May 22, 2008

butros posted:

HA! Were you Henson Text Disaster?

There will be updates in the next day or two so I'd expect standings in the league to shift a bit between now and Monday.

Also, am monitoring Youtube, will post links to the matches from this week for folks to review when they are up. WOOP WOOP!

Yeah, I'm gonna revel in my short-term glory and pretend to be super smart and well informed. Anyone want to hear any inside gossip from the *checks crib sheet" Cheetahs camp about *checks crib sheet again* Willie Le Roux? Also, isn't Willie Le Roux a famous drag queen? Rugby seems like an odd career shift.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Lions vs Cheetahs was horrible but the Sharks vs Bulls game was much better than most of the dross from the 6 Nations.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Feb 16, 2014

ElectroMagneticJosh
Oct 13, 2006

Lets Volt In!!

Vagabundo posted:

Lions vs Cheetahs was horrible but the Sharks vs Bulls game was mych better than most of the dross from the 6 Nations.

The Sharks have some great players and, with White coaching, this could easily be their year.

StraightFace
Feb 9, 2014

ElectroMagneticJosh posted:

The Sharks have some great players and, with White coaching, this could easily be their year.

Agreed, they are going to be tough to beat.

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Cheetahs/Lions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUvJmrzVjzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr6DUGG8xtw

Sharks/Bulls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeh9-TSA6h0

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

StraightFace posted:

Agreed, they are going to be tough to beat.

Yeah, until they get to the final.

Tyma
Dec 22, 2004

I love Leinster and I couldn't be happier that Jordie Barrett has signed with them on a short term deal.
I wonder if Warren Gatland will follow-through on his promise to pick the Fly-Half with the "best current form", because The Ospreys just put 11 try's past Treviso, and were disallowed another 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5lfdA5KQzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvLU1N2bHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq1bugeYeZ0

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

Tyma posted:

I wonder if Warren Gatland will follow-through on his promise to pick the Fly-Half with the "best current form", because The Ospreys just put 11 try's past Treviso, and were disallowed another 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5lfdA5KQzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqvLU1N2bHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq1bugeYeZ0

If Treviso are bad enough to ship 11 trys, then clearly they're not good enough opposition for all that scoring to matter :colbert:

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
Treviso aren't that bad (they're not good though),they were firmly mid-table last year.The problem is since there's only two top-tier Italian teams,they both lose a large chunk of their squad during the international window.They have to put a team together who have probably barely played all year,and then matched like that happen.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

So the latest issue of NZ Rugby World has a bit where they deliver the news in small one-sentence pieces, with humour mixed in. Said humour is pretty weak at the best of times, but this month, they delivered a solid set of :iceburn: comments in at the expense of Gatland and Wales.

quote:

  • Wales contracted coach Warren Gatland through to the 2019 World Cup. Wow.
  • What happens, though, if they bomb in 2014 and are awful in 2015?
  • Is that a bold move or just daft?
  • Probably the latter but the Welsh do things their way and maybe they wanted to tie up Gatland just in case the lure of coming home to coach the Highlanders proves too hard to resist.


  • While we are on the subject of Gatland... let's throw the clock forward to think about this scenario.
  • His son, Bryn, has signed with Waikato after starring for New Zealand Schools last year.
  • What if young Gatland has a few years here and doesn't quite crack it.
  • Will Dad persuade him to come to Wales?
  • What a story that would be - Gatland coaching Wales at the 2019 World Cup with his son in the No. 10 jersey.
  • Imagine if they win?
  • OK, that's serious fiction territory now. Let's just imagine they get out of their group.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Feb 17, 2014

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Did some kicking practice today and felt good about everything except kicks beyond 30m. Strictly speaking I am a terrible, terrible kicker, however as you may recall I play in the USA Division III where missing straight-on kicks from 10m is a thing that happens all the time. So being able to make a kick 20m out and 20m sideways on my off side (right side, as I am a right-footer) is actually decent, and being able to make them 2/3 of the time is even better.

The issue I have noticed is that beyond 30m the hook/curve of my kick becomes both much more severe and less predictable. Everything I think I can control about the strike on the ball can be the same, but while I usually have a pronounced hook to the left for which I can compensate, 1/3 of the time it has no hook at all, or drifts right a bit. I can definitely get enough power to make >40m kicks, so at 30m the power isn't really the issue, but I was wondering if you lot had any suggestions as to a specific area of my approach, plant, stroke, etc. that I should fiddle with to establish a more consistent pattern. Is there something I should be checking every time before I make my approach, like, is the ball pointed in such-and-such a direction, are my toes point here/there, that kind of thing?

(Keep in mind I have literally never been coached on kicking, my team has no actual coach this year, and everything I have learned I have learned from watching rugby and league games, so more advice like what you helpfully provided in the last thread will be very welcome!)

ElectroMagneticJosh
Oct 13, 2006

Lets Volt In!!

Vagabundo posted:

So the latest issue of NZ Rugby World has a bit where they deliver the news in small one-sentence pieces, with humour mixed in. Said humour is pretty weak at the best of times, but this month, they a solid set of :iceburn: comments in at the expense of Gatland and Wales.

After the earlier discussion about Wales losing their number 10 production line; maybe a Gatland playing for Wales isn't too far fetched.

Tragic Peculiar
May 22, 2008

ElectroMagneticJosh posted:

After the earlier discussion about Wales losing their number 10 production line; maybe a Gatland playing for Wales isn't too far fetched.

"Now remember son, the primary role of the fly-half is to collect the ball from the scrum-half and take it straight into contact while the scrum half's unavailable, allowing the prop to launch an attack with a clever box-kick. If you can't find a defender to run into, a good second option is to kick directly to one of the back three, in the hope they'll just lose their mind and stare blankly at the ball instead of counter attacking, allowing you to run in for an easy try."

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Apollodorus posted:

Did some kicking practice today and felt good about everything except kicks beyond 30m. Strictly speaking I am a terrible, terrible kicker, however as you may recall I play in the USA Division III where missing straight-on kicks from 10m is a thing that happens all the time. So being able to make a kick 20m out and 20m sideways on my off side (right side, as I am a right-footer) is actually decent, and being able to make them 2/3 of the time is even better.

The issue I have noticed is that beyond 30m the hook/curve of my kick becomes both much more severe and less predictable. Everything I think I can control about the strike on the ball can be the same, but while I usually have a pronounced hook to the left for which I can compensate, 1/3 of the time it has no hook at all, or drifts right a bit. I can definitely get enough power to make >40m kicks, so at 30m the power isn't really the issue, but I was wondering if you lot had any suggestions as to a specific area of my approach, plant, stroke, etc. that I should fiddle with to establish a more consistent pattern. Is there something I should be checking every time before I make my approach, like, is the ball pointed in such-and-such a direction, are my toes point here/there, that kind of thing?

(Keep in mind I have literally never been coached on kicking, my team has no actual coach this year, and everything I have learned I have learned from watching rugby and league games, so more advice like what you helpfully provided in the last thread will be very welcome!)

It would be very hard to say exactly without seeing you kick but if you're hooking the ball in left (I'm assuming you're right footed) it sounds like you're striking across the ball too much. So you're trying to hit the back of the ball but wrapping your toes round catching the side which will make it hook. You want your follow through with your whole body to be going towards the target. It's tempting to swing your leg so your follow through ends up going round you, you need it to be going forwards or the ball will follow your foot round. Here's a decent video I found that has some tips in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qClWlvA-WLQ

Other than that just practice practice practice. Even if you can't get rid of the hook entirely, even pro's still hook the ball slightly, you can make is consistent so you can aim it based on how you'll kick the ball.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:

Tragic Peculiar posted:

Welp. Looks like the "knowing nothing about Southern Hemisphere rugby and just picking the SA players with the most points last year" strategy has paid off for this week. :smuggo:

I'm currently running in fourth without having a clue... though I fully expect this to all go wrong soon. But still, I'll take it while I have it. :D

Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Feb 17, 2014

Tragic Peculiar
May 22, 2008

Vaders Jester posted:

I'm currently running in fourth without having a clue... though I fully expect this to all go wrong soon. But still, I'll take it while I have it. :D

Oh fucksticks, the last season's scores have been replaced by this season's. Looks like I'm going into the next round blind, unless anyone knows where to find the old scores?

Edit: Also didn't realise that the number of transfers you can make is limited. Ah well, I've brought in Folau on the basis that I've heard of him, he got a lot of points last season, and he's portable.

Tragic Peculiar fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Feb 17, 2014

ElectroMagneticJosh
Oct 13, 2006

Lets Volt In!!
I suggest waiting until the squads are named and then making the appropriate changes.

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Glasgow seem to be shedding off good players. We've lost Moray Low to Exeter Chiefs and now Chris Cusiter to Sale Sharks.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the current league dispute.

Tyma
Dec 22, 2004

I love Leinster and I couldn't be happier that Jordie Barrett has signed with them on a short term deal.
:siren: TWO MORE YEARS :siren:



This means he turned down a central contract. Some sort of announcement about the Rabo / Aviva has to be coming soon.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:

WMain00 posted:

Glasgow seem to be shedding off good players. We've lost Moray Low to Exeter Chiefs and now Chris Cusiter to Sale Sharks.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the current league dispute.

Might, sadly, just be down to money on offer for good players.

Though with the Italians leaving the Rabo there must be some sort of change coming up soon, maybe a fully British and Irish league or something though that might require more than a year to hammer out.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
They should just merge all the top European leagues into a 32-team league, 4 Irish, 4 Welsh, 2 Scottish, 10 English, 10 French, 2 Italian, two conferences with two divisions (Northwest/Northeast, Southwest/Southeast, or whatever), 16-game regular season, 3 knockout playoff rounds, an all-star game, and a grand final event rotating among the major stadiums, with an elaborately choreographed half-time show, and you all learn to eat hot wings and drink lovely beer while watching it. Boom, rugby solved.

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tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin

Apollodorus posted:

They should just merge all the top European leagues into a 32-team league, 4 Irish, 4 Welsh, 2 Scottish, 10 English, 10 French, 2 Italian, two conferences with two divisions (Northwest/Northeast, Southwest/Southeast, or whatever), 16-game regular season, 3 knockout playoff rounds, an all-star game, and a grand final event rotating among the major stadiums, with an elaborately choreographed half-time show, and you all learn to eat hot wings and drink lovely beer while watching it. Boom, rugby solved.

Good luck getting the French to abandon the Top 14,they won't agree to anything that could jeopardise it (with good reason,it's one of the oldest rugby competitions to still be going on).

WMain00 posted:

Glasgow seem to be shedding off good players. We've lost Moray Low to Exeter Chiefs and now Chris Cusiter to Sale Sharks.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the current league dispute.

They've lost Low and Cusiter,but Glagow have signed Carlin Isles,star of that 7s video where he runs faster than all the other guys who can run fast,showing no other rugby skills in the process (I'm not a big fan of 7s).

If he picks up the other skills he needs for union,he should be a good buy,but that's a big ask.Takudzwa Ngwenya is the only other player I can think of that has succeeded.

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