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I'm just going to present my opinions on sports I don't have any interest in as facts on a supposedly serious informational encyclopedia website. Seriously, out of all the crap they pull on that site, this has got me scratching my head the most. What is the point of this article? How are "joke sports" a conservative issue?
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Mischalaniouse posted:Seriously, out of all the crap they pull on that site, this has got me scratching my head the most. What is the point of this article? How are "joke sports" a conservative issue? Because live and let be isn't a thing in that mindset. Andy'll probably be ranting about how his gay brother doesn't use the right toilet paper next.
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Feb 13, 2014 11:09
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Mischalaniouse posted:Seriously, out of all the crap they pull on that site, this has got me scratching my head the most. What is the point of this article? How are "joke sports" a conservative issue? I'm not one to accuse people of being mentally ill just for having stupid or hateful beliefs, but I firmly believe that Schlafly and user:conservative have legitimate mental disorders and should be in treatment.
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Feb 13, 2014 11:29
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Mischalaniouse posted:I'm just going to present my opinions on sports I don't have any interest in as facts on a supposedly serious informational encyclopedia website. To Andy, literally every object or idea is either conservative or liberal, and it's terribly important to know which.
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Feb 13, 2014 12:04
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In the most Christian move ever, the front page news links to the Question Evolution twitter and blog.quote:An American, Christian conservative joins the fun in taunting atheists and agnostics for their sissy boy ways.[3] quote:The members of sissy boy religions are noted for picking on ultra weak religions in order to make them feel better about their own weak religion. Also: quote:The United States has a cornucopia of welfare queens living in air conditioned residences.[4]
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Feb 13, 2014 18:38
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Georgia Peach posted:In the most Christian move ever, the front page news links to the Question Evolution twitter and blog. "4 reasons why atheism and agnosticism are weak, secular religions for sissy boys!" So, wait, does homosexuality cause atheism, or vice versa?
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Feb 13, 2014 20:28
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Mischalaniouse posted:I'm just going to present my opinions on sports I don't have any interest in as facts on a supposedly serious informational encyclopedia website. If your whole worldview depends on Christian conservatives being the manliest and bestest at everything, you have to come up with reasons why any gold medals won by Canadians, Europeans, homosexuals, or women don't count. If America or another fag-bashing country like Russia didn't win a sport, the sport is a joke QED.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:58
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e: ^Mischalaniouse posted:I'm just going to present my opinions on sports I don't have any interest in as facts on a supposedly serious informational encyclopedia website. My take is that (as mentioned), literally everything needs to be classified as conservative or liberal to Andy. This is true for sports, words, music and even the bible. On top of that, Andy has a habit of making wild predictions about things he knows nothing about. Let's use the olympics for example. Andy predicts that countries that aren't very religious or that support homosexuality will do poorly in the olympics. If an athlete from one of those countries wins, or that country as a whole performs better than expected, Andy will discount the achievements of that country by looking at what sports they won medals in and classify events as "joke sports" to mean "well that doesn't count because X". This reinforces his belief that conservative countries do better and by simply handwaving away things he doesn't agree with, he validates his own theory, declares himself right, and then posts another addition to his Conservapedia Proven Right article. Note that most of the entries on that page totally contradict reality, but it gives good insight on how Andy thinks. For example: Conservapedia Proven Right posted:Prediction And so on.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:06
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bobkatt013 posted:Wonder how they feel about this?
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Wojtek posted:This is infuriating if it's real. It is. It was shown on the Daily Show a couple of years ago. http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/07/22/fox-cites-ownership-of-appliances-to-downplay-h/148574 bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 22:52
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Wojtek posted:This is infuriating if it's real. drat right, that's tens of thousands of people without refrigeration! That's appalling.
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How is mogul skiing a joke sport? I'm pretty sure it destroys your knees just like football does. Also hahahahaha at woman's boxing/wrestling is one too.
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DemeaninDemon posted:How is mogul skiing a joke sport? I'm pretty sure it destroys your knees just like football does. I'm a petty man but I would love to watch an uwe boll vs lowtax style bout where a female joke boxer punches schlafly's teeth in.
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Feb 14, 2014 00:32
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DemeaninDemon posted:How is mogul skiing a joke sport? Canada won gold medals in it. http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_proven_wrong posted:Conservapedia Prediction 
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DemeaninDemon posted:How is mogul skiing a joke sport? I'm pretty sure it destroys your knees just like football does. Probably because it involves doing jumps and tricks, which are things that those kids do, rather than just skiing fast and turning like God intended.
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VitalSigns posted:Canada won gold medals in it. Oh I get it he's just a petty sack of poo poo.
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Feb 14, 2014 01:11
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DemeaninDemon posted:Oh I get it he's just a petty sack of poo poo. You've been posting in this thread for years and you just now found this out?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Oh I get it he's just a petty sack of poo poo. http://conservapedia.com/American_exceptionalism posted:American exceptionalism is an intuition about the United States, a country that occupies a special place among the nations of the world primarily because of its unique origins. The concept of "American exceptionalism" may be defined as the notion that the United States, by virtue of its origins and ideals, its struggles and accomplishments, stands apart from — and, in some eyes, above — other nations.[1][2]
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VitalSigns posted:Canada won gold medals in it. "I don't even know why Yale bothered to show up. They barely won!" -Mr.
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Has anything ever come to light about whether or not Andy (or user:conservative) thinks being gay should be a capital offense and gay people should be executed? They're obviously obsessed with homosexuality to an almost Phelpsian level. It's weird seeing extremely hardline Christian social conservatives stop just short of what the Bible, which they all profess to want to base our laws on, actually says should happen to gay people. They, including Andy and especially the "off his meds" version of conservative, don't really strike me as the sort of people savvy enough to know how monstrous and awful that would sound to 90+% of the population and to adjust their message accordingly. Edit: I actually have some kind of weird, anti-reverse-bizarro respect for whoever that Tea Party candidate that said we should make it legal to stone disobedient children. I obviously don't support that whatsoever and thank gently caress it'll never happen but it takes something approximating a huge amount of chutzpah to not pull your punches and actually advocate what your book says if you want to use it as a source of laws. I wish more conservative theocrats were so honest (mainly because they'd get destroyed at the polls). Occupy Japan fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Feb 16, 2014 |
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I'm pretty sure Andy is of the "Gays are spiteful of God or being mislead by the lie-beral media but if they found Jesus they would turn straight" and more believes in not condoning the behavior than committing genocide. Edit: also you're doing this weird sort of Meta thing where you're saying what you think conservatives should think the Bible should mean. There are for examples Liberal Christians who will say "Yeah the Bible doesn't say kill gays" and so are you claiming they're not christians or something? RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Feb 16, 2014 |
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I love on that on their list of conservative songs they included "Praise the Lord and Pass the Bullets." Apparently, sometimes you got to put down the bible and start shooting people? I guess you best put it down before you get to the whole live by the sword, die by the sword part. That's the thing with these people, they have literally no understanding of events beyond conservative things are good!
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Cemetry Gator posted:I love on that on their list of conservative songs they included "Praise the Lord and Pass the Bullets." Apparently, sometimes you got to put down the bible and start shooting people? Luke 22:36 posted:Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Jesus tells us to sell everything and buy weapons, checkmate liberal  Do not read the rest of Luke Chapter 22. Do not attempt to put this into any sort of context. Do not go on to read about what Jesus actually wants with the swords or how he reacts when his Disciples use them for violence.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Edit: also you're doing this weird sort of Meta thing where you're saying what you think conservatives should think the Bible should mean. There are for examples Liberal Christians who will say "Yeah the Bible doesn't say kill gays" and so are you claiming they're not christians or something? Leviticus 20:13 posted:If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Yeah but same as conservatives can take things out of context to justify what they want but ignore what they don't, two can play that game. Edit: Also Leviticus old testament etc. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Feb 16, 2014 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah but same as conservatives can take things out of context to justify what they want but ignore what they don't, two can play that game. You're doing this weird sort of Meta thing where you're saying what you think conservatives should think the Bible should mean. There are for example Conservative Christians who do say "Yeah the Bible says kill gays" and so are you claiming they can't be used as examples or something? He was saying he wanted one of the national platform guys to say it, to expose what some hardcore right wingers do feel/talk about in private. You're white knighting some of the most repugnant people in the political discourse just so you can win an internet slapfight. TLDR: Your red title is showing.
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I am not, and you're the one who dragged personal internet slap fights into this. I'm more concerned with accepting the conservative interpretation of the Bible as the only correct one because "that's what it says". Edit: I realize upon rereading what I wrote I see how you got what you thought I meant. I apologize.
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Do you actually know what "out of context" means? Because presenting that whole verse in an unedited form is not "out of context". What context could be relevant here? That the book of the Bible it came from is a laundry list of laws? That ancient people weren't exactly social justice warriors? As for liberal Christians, it's likely they don't view the Bible as the 100% inerrant word of god or that they don't think it should be the basis for our laws regardless or, yes, they could just be cherry-picking the parts they like and making excuses for the parts they don't. Cherry-picking goes both ways. "OUT OF CONTEXT" gets thrown around by both sides when it comes to the Bible and I kinda get the feeling that the "context" is that it makes them feel uncomfortable and they don't agree with it rather than some actual objective thing. For what it's worth, it would be just as intellectually honest for someone to say "I only like the parts of the Bible I agree with, and I don't agree with the anti-gay stuff" as it would be for someone to say "Welp, the Bible literally says gay people should be put to death and I believe the Bible is the word of god so I've got to agree with it.". Here is some actual context: I am not a christian (shocker, I know) and feel like the parts of the Bible I would agree with (the proto-social justice-y parts) can be arrived at on their own and that way I don't have to make excuses for the parts I don't agree with (the draconian social laws, murder, rape, genocide, human sacrifice, slavery, etc.)
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Cemetry Gator posted:I love on that on their list of conservative songs they included "Praise the Lord and Pass the Bullets." Apparently, sometimes you got to put down the bible and start shooting people? Ahem it says live by the sword die by the sword. A gun isn't a sword. 
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Occupy Japan posted:Do you actually know what "out of context" means? Because presenting that whole verse in an unedited form is not "out of context". What context could be relevant here? That the book of the Bible it came from is a laundry list of laws? That ancient people weren't exactly social justice warriors? The context is later verses in the New Testament which might or might not mean that a lot of the Old Testament stuff no longer has to be observed. It gets argued back and forth a lot and I'm not a biblical scholar so I won't try to argue one way or the other, but given the length of the bible and the millennia of study that it's seen guarentees that there is a ton of literary, theological and historical context that goes beyond isolated verses.
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Mischalaniouse posted:Seriously, out of all the crap they pull on that site, this has got me scratching my head the most. What is the point of this article? How are "joke sports" a conservative issue?
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Occupy Japan posted:Do you actually know what "out of context" means? Because presenting that whole verse in an unedited form is not "out of context". What context could be relevant here? That the book of the Bible it came from is a laundry list of laws? That ancient people weren't exactly social justice warriors? It's a historical document, so the context is the beliefs and attitudes of the time. Women were property, so to "lie with a man as with a woman" would mean reducing a man to property. (There are several of other interpretations of this passage which also seem pretty reasonable.) The bible is not some kind of clear-cut easy-reader. You have to account for the authors and the intended audience, and those can change on a sentence-by-sentence basis since the whole thing was stitched together both when it was compiled and later when it was copied.
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Mniot posted:The bible is not some kind of clear-cut easy-reader. You have to account for the authors and the intended audience, and those can change on a sentence-by-sentence basis since the whole thing was stitched together both when it was compiled and later when it was copied. Yeah. I mean, the Bible was written over a period of about 1000 years. And there's a general evolution of ideas as the history grew and changed. In the beginning, God is this super active force. He's directing people, talking with them directly, intervening in their lives, wiping out humanity, crushing cities, leading people to promise lands. And then as time goes on, God gets less active. He works through prophets, and when he takes direct action, its mostly through him not favoring the Israelites because they pissed him off for some reason. And then when you get to the New Testament, God becomes much more personal. There's less huge miracles, like stopping the sun, and more little things. Expecting there to be much internal consistency from such a work is like wondering why my Elton John Greatest Hits CD has all these different production styles.
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Speaking of Conservapedia and sports, I noticed that their article on the Olympics still refers to both London 2012 and Sochi 2014 as being in the future.
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tacodaemon posted:Speaking of Conservapedia and sports, I noticed that their article on the Olympics still refers to both London 2012 and Sochi 2014 as being in the future. Well, from 1955, they still are in the future.
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cafel posted:For some reason this is the most mad I've ever been at conservapedia. I don't even do any winter sports, but this is just so mind bendingly stupid in a way I can't even process. Instead of my brain spitting out some way to make sense of it, it's just producing seething rage. Conservapedia article on Fencing posted:when women participate in it, fencing is a joke sport.
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Huttan posted:Many of the "joke sports" exist because of Title IX. That's a hot-button topic for conservatives. I really hate the fact that sometimes title 9 makes me mad because it was kinda hamfisted, because normally the only people who really get mad are loving idiots.
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On the main talk page, regarding euthanasia in Belgium.quote:Iduan, you're wrong here and Andy is right on. This law is basically legalized abortion for children. Just like abortion, the child has to be terminally ill, have parental consent, and personally request the procedure, just like abortion, how can't you see that.  Is Andy pulling a Conservative here with sock puppets on his own website or is this some wiki snafu where some other poster's name was deleted?
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