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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:Could Punk even appear at Honorcon if he's still under contract? I know it won't be on air but still, it's an event promoted by another company He's an independent contractor and so long as he's not on TV he can do what he likes. Guys with slower schedules like Jerry Lawler and Tommy Dreamer used to do local indies that didn't have TV, DVD or Youtube. Of course that won't sit well with Vince because he loving hates people using the freedom that is granted in an independent contract to do things independently of the WWE. See Macho Man doing the Slim Jims ad or any Diva ever doing anything in music.
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LividLiquid posted:Bryan learning what the Tardis is OK, what show do I need to listen to for what I assume is 20 minutes of Alvarez trying to wrap his head around "It's bigger... on the INSIDE?!!"
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Gaz-L posted:OK, what show do I need to listen to for what I assume is 20 minutes of Alvarez trying to wrap his head around "It's bigger... on the INSIDE?!!" Sounds like we need a sequel to the Todd Martin "song."
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Gonzo McFee posted:He's an independent contractor and so long as he's not on TV he can do what he likes. Guys with slower schedules like Jerry Lawler and Tommy Dreamer used to do local indies that didn't have TV, DVD or Youtube. I always assumed Dreamer, Lawler, et al cleared those appearances with the office since they're wrestling related while music/ads aren't. I could definitely be wrong though
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:I always assumed Dreamer, Lawler, et al cleared those appearances with the office since they're wrestling related while music/ads aren't. I could definitely be wrong though I think Lawler basically has carte blanche (he still wrestles for indies) to do his own stuff since he's a commentator and Vince trusts and respects him.
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:I always assumed Dreamer, Lawler, et al cleared those appearances with the office since they're wrestling related while music/ads aren't. I could definitely be wrong though I'm not a lawyer but legally he can do what he likes so long as he doesn't breach the terms of his contract and since forbidding an independent contractor from working within their contracted medium would be unenforceable if Vince sued he can do what he likes. You clear it with the WWE because Vince is a control freak who has people do promotional work for free because if anyone refused they'd get shitcanned or depushed fast. Basically Vince wants the control of an employee with the lack of responsibility of an independent contractor. If Punk is really going to go and do something perfectly legal just to piss off Vince McMahon I'll love him forever.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I'm not a lawyer but legally he can do what he likes so long as he doesn't breach the terms of his contract and since forbidding an independent contractor from working within their contracted medium would be unenforceable if Vince sued he can do what he likes. Wouldn't Punk basically be okay as long as he doesn't wrestle?
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MassRafTer posted:I was worried I was going to hear a bunch of Doctor Who discussion on Bryan and Vinny but I guess that was on another show, so I was saved. Minor miracles.
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Gonzo McFee posted:He's an independent contractor and so long as he's not on TV he can do what he likes. Guys with slower schedules like Jerry Lawler and Tommy Dreamer used to do local indies that didn't have TV, DVD or Youtube. No, he can't. Lawler is under an announcer contract that let's him take outside gigs under certain circumstances. I don't remember Dreamer doing anything outside of ROH, I guess he may have, but I don't remember it. Those were cleared with WWE. When you are under WWE contract you have to clear any outside wrestling appearances you make. In theory you could do a bunch, in practice they will never clear them and they have the contractual right to veto them. If Punk made a promotional appearance at Honorcon WWE would take legal action and would win unless Punk can prove that WWE breached his contract and voided it. If ROH announced they were signing CM Punk I have a feeling they'd be on the hook for tampering. As for the Slim Jim's sponsorship, Vince loved the extra money it brought him. The claims Vince hated Macho for that are bullshit, Vince tried to re-sign him in 96 and then in 98 or 99. Having Macho with that sponsorship brought in money. Obviously it sucked to lose it, but both companies liked that extra revenue.
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Do not even ask posted:Holy poo poo, Kevin's rant about the storyline to the main event of Unforgiven '99 in the latest AE Podcast is loving gold. Refresh my memory, what was it?
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Gaz-L posted:OK, what show do I need to listen to for what I assume is 20 minutes of Alvarez trying to wrap his head around "It's bigger... on the INSIDE?!!"
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MassRafTer posted:No, he can't. Lawler is under an announcer contract that let's him take outside gigs under certain circumstances. I don't remember Dreamer doing anything outside of ROH, I guess he may have, but I don't remember it. Those were cleared with WWE. When you are under WWE contract you have to clear any outside wrestling appearances you make. In theory you could do a bunch, in practice they will never clear them and they have the contractual right to veto them. If Punk made a promotional appearance at Honorcon WWE would take legal action and would win unless Punk can prove that WWE breached his contract and voided it. If ROH announced they were signing CM Punk I have a feeling they'd be on the hook for tampering. As for the Slim Jim's sponsorship, Vince loved the extra money it brought him. The claims Vince hated Macho for that are bullshit, Vince tried to re-sign him in 96 and then in 98 or 99. Having Macho with that sponsorship brought in money. Obviously it sucked to lose it, but both companies liked that extra revenue. Good thing I prefaced it with INAL.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Refresh my memory, what was it? The 6 pack challenge clusterfuck, with Vince as world champion.
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I can not wait to hear the AE Podcast's review of Bash of the Beach 2000
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bobkatt013 posted:I can not wait to hear the AE Podcast's review of Bash of the Beach 2000 That's a WCW pay=per-view?
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:That's a WCW pay=per-view? Yes and one of the most infamous. It has the Russo shoot.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yes and one of the most infamous. It has the Russo shoot. Yeah, but AE Podcast only does WWF, right?
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Yeah, but AE Podcast only does WWF, right? They are doing this one special as a memorial to Russo.
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Wario Kart 64 posted:Cena records with Austin tomorrow. I haven't listened to much of Austin's podcast but I'm looking forward to that My understanding is that Austin recorded shows with Zeb, Cena and Big Show backstage at the Raw he went to last week, as opposed to setting up interview times with them. He noted that it is really difficult to set aside time with current wrestlers because they're always involved in some kind of promotional work for WWE if they're not wrestling or training.
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MassRafTer posted:No, he can't. Lawler is under an announcer contract that let's him take outside gigs under certain circumstances. I don't remember Dreamer doing anything outside of ROH, I guess he may have, but I don't remember it. Those were cleared with WWE. When you are under WWE contract you have to clear any outside wrestling appearances you make. In theory you could do a bunch, in practice they will never clear them and they have the contractual right to veto them. If Punk made a promotional appearance at Honorcon WWE would take legal action and would win unless Punk can prove that WWE breached his contract and voided it. If ROH announced they were signing CM Punk I have a feeling they'd be on the hook for tampering. As for the Slim Jim's sponsorship, Vince loved the extra money it brought him. The claims Vince hated Macho for that are bullshit, Vince tried to re-sign him in 96 and then in 98 or 99. Having Macho with that sponsorship brought in money. Obviously it sucked to lose it, but both companies liked that extra revenue. Yeah that's pretty much what I thought, thanks
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I will be shocked if we actually learn anything about Cena. Dude is a loving WWE robot.
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LividLiquid posted:I have no doubt. Dude can't not tow the company line. He does at least say he wants new opponents.
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Punchsport Podcast: is Big Daddy Yum Yum a viable candidate for the 2014 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Award for Most Improved after a single match in Japan?
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HulkaMatt posted:I ask for more questions. Besides Shinsuke/Okada, what fresh matchups would you like to see in NJPW?
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oatgan posted:Punchsport Podcast: is Big Daddy Yum Yum a viable candidate for the 2014 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Award for Most Improved after a single match in Japan? Now there are two Big Daddies who need to be in the HoF.
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Punch/Pisscast: Book a UFC/WWE supershow. All UFC-style fights. Both WWE and UFC titles can be put on the line. Including the tag team championships. I'm so sorry.
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Punchsport Podcast: Do you think there's anyone who could actually be pushed by the 'losing streak' plotline the WWE loves giving to people because they're insane? Who, either on the roster or in developmental, would you like to see on an undefeated streak for the next 6+ months?
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We answered some of your questions on this show: http://shootcast.org/wwe-monday-night-raw-for-02-17-14/
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Austins interview with cena is up. http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show-Clean
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LordPants posted:Cena's dad Cena: My Dad and I never played catch  ......we'd have Battle Royales in the living room instead! 
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