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Cross-posting from the synthesizers thread: An email update from Randy of Madrona Labs mentions a new Aalto update (1.5) and Kaivo to be shipping (hopefully!) in the next couple weeks. quote:Here’s the list of major changes in Aalto 1.5:
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minidracula posted:Cross-posting from the synthesizers thread: The new build of Aalto is great and Kaivo is the loving coolest thing. I'm getting sounds out of it that are just unreal.
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Feb 18, 2014 06:18
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Finally Aalto works for me again with this new update!
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Feb 18, 2014 06:24
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Oldstench posted:The new build of Aalto is great and Kaivo is the loving coolest thing. I'm getting sounds out of it that are just unreal. Kaivo's release "schedule" is taxing my ability to remain patient.
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Feb 18, 2014 06:24
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minidracula posted:Let it be known that if you are in the closed beta for Kaivo, I hate you. Can we still be friends? Oldstench fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Feb 18, 2014 |
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Feb 18, 2014 07:01
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That drums demo is pretty Nettle-licious almost entirely throughout. (Maybe I just have them on the brain because I charged my iPod finally and was able to listen to Build a Fort, Set That on Fire for the first time in a while). How chompy has it been on your CPU in beta? Are you using it on Windows or OS X?
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Feb 18, 2014 07:36
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minidracula posted:That drums demo is pretty Nettle-licious almost entirely throughout. (Maybe I just have them on the brain because I charged my iPod finally and was able to listen to Build a Fort, Set That on Fire for the first time in a while). The first version wouldn't even run on my machine. Windows 7 32-bit, i5, Live 9.1. Randy sent me some other builds to help figure out what was going on and I think he's nailed it. Still takes about 50% of my CPU for 4 voices, and I have to disconnect my wireless internet dongle or I get pops and crackles, but it's worth it.
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Feb 18, 2014 07:38
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On the Steinberg forum someone started a thread asking which plugins people like to use. Today, a user named OveKarlsen created a forum account so he could post the following reply:OveKarlsen posted:I use a lot of my own DSP. Which after seeing the level of unseriousness in the DSP and mastering environment, makes a lot of sense. Ah, but when you click the YouTube link, you are greeted with:  What are you brewing, OveKarlsen, and when can we buy it???
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Feb 20, 2014 02:09
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Even if his own DSP is a bunch of hot air and he himself is a douche, he brings up a lot of valid points.
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Feb 20, 2014 02:42
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That's kind of a *beep boop* post and the worst defense of 2-bus limiting that I've ever heard. I like the way noise sounds. I like reduced headroom. I like saturation and I like clipping. Are they appropriate for everything? No, but nobody really thinks they are. Will I argue to my dying breath that bad masters are bad? Hell yes. The way an 1176 sounds isn't objectively better than anything else, but it sure is imprinted hard into our cultural history. Why reinvent the wheel? If you want clean you use clean. If you want dirty you gently caress it all up. Isn't that like the most obvious point ever?
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Feb 20, 2014 03:22
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Has anyone found a great VST for copying a Metallica-esque heavy distortion sound? I tried SimulAnalog and the BOSS DS-1 isn't heavy enough even with tweaking I feel.
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Feb 23, 2014 21:26
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Razzled posted:Has anyone found a great VST for copying a Metallica-esque heavy distortion sound? Depends on what era of Metallica you want, really. There are more JCM 800 clones than you can shake a stick at, so take your pick and dump the mids to about 2 while cranking your treble and your bass around 7. Then throw a tube screamer clone in front of that for tightness and ta-da, Metallica with Burton. For the later stuff, you'll want a Mesa Boogie clone (I think they use Dual Recs now but I can't remember) with similar settings. Then just tweak/EQ until you're happy. E: Can't vouch for it but try this E2: Actually, what kind of setup are you working with right now? Declan MacManus fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Feb 23, 2014 22:18
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Declan MacManus posted:Depends on what era of Metallica you want, really. There are more JCM 800 clones than you can shake a stick at, so take your pick and dump the mids to about 2 while cranking your treble and your bass around 7. Then throw a tube screamer clone in front of that for tightness and ta-da, Metallica with Burton. For the later stuff, you'll want a Mesa Boogie clone (I think they use Dual Recs now but I can't remember) with similar settings. Then just tweak/EQ until you're happy. I basically have no idea what I'm doing. I have an electric, which I plug into a Roland audio interface which connects to my computer. And then I open my DAW (Ohm Studio) and record. And then throw VSTs on top of a rack to change the sound from just a standard guitar.
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Razzled posted:I basically have no idea what I'm doing. I have an electric, which I plug into a Roland audio interface which connects to my computer. And then I open my DAW (Ohm Studio) and record. And then throw VSTs on top of a rack to change the sound from just a standard guitar. Oh, okay. Well, I don't want to overwhelm you too much with recording stuff, so what I will say is that you want to pay attention to what your cab sims are and experiment with mic placement (which any guitar sim worth its salt should let you play with). Here is a handy chart to give you some guidelines for equalization (which is necessary to make your guitars sit well in a mix). If your current VST doesn't let you mess with that stuff, I think Amplitube has a free version that you can mess around with. I will say that from listening to samples on the SimulAnalog website that I'm not a huge fan of how it sounds, so that could be the problem. Here are better sims that might get you closer to the sounds that you want.
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Feb 24, 2014 00:40
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I fuckin' did it, completed Amplitube CS fully. I was only missing the Zvex pedals and I don't REALLY super need their real world counterparts for anything I personally do, but what the hell, I can dick around with them now and if anyone else wants to use them, fine by me. More noteworthy though, I finished T-Racks CS too, including the new Sontec MES 432c emulation, which is really surprisingly fantastic. I say "surprisingly" not because IKMM is bad at modeling and I expected it to suck - FAR from it, I love their gear - but rather because the thing that it offers to usually mastering engineers is kinda subtle, the features are aimed at basically being as awesome as possible in the analog domain with absolutely minimal THD, crosstalk, SNR, etc., and stepped potentiometers for everything it does. The first real parametric EQ. This thing is am-az-ing. There are a lot of good EQs out there. I had my eye on this one for some precision work and I still may nab it, Dave is a great programmer and knows his stuff inside and out - http://dmgaudio.com/products_equilibrium.php. And anyway, I have a lot of great EQs! Linear phase parametric, dynamic multiband with all sorts of shapes, non-linear parametric, and of course all the other character EQ options in T-Racks CS that I'm not mentioning in this post, as well as some assorted other devs' gear. I have never used one that made it so easy to very quickly accomplish precisely what I'm trying to do, and I have some really nice parametric EQ options in the digital realm. It even nails the sort of very light high-end sheen that the 260/432 puts on material, which gives a bunch of tracks all mastered with it a cohesive sound. I'm in EQ love :heart: It's heavy on the CPU, but considering it's largely intended for some great filters plus a few bands of +/-6dB with surgical precision and imparting that treble ... mojo, je no sais quoi, sparkle, "FINISHED" sound across all tracks, I think being "heavy on the CPU" is pretty relative. It does offer up to +/-12dB and it sounds excellent when boosting... Its introductory price is $150/120 credits, and a video of it on youtube shows it going up to like twice that, so if you're interested and you happened to nab a bunch of credits in a group buy at some point, I'd pick that particular unit up now rather than wait around for it. It just sounds so damned good. The stepped pots thing I guess is intended to be an easy analog feature for recall, and maybe that's easier with variable pots in the digital world than it is in the analog one, maybe it's not necessary - but maybe it really, surprisingly helps nonetheless to be able to see the numbers that precisely instead of eyeballing a curve and moving it around. And it helps to be limited to 6, or 9, or 12dB, because it stops you from going too far in any one direction. I'm finding the +/-6dB mode to be extremely useful because it keeps EQ where it ought to be (in terms of parametric EQs): constrained more to necessity, something you use to correct an unwanted sound, not as an effect. This is not a character EQ, but it has character anyway that sounds consistent across tracks. It's hard to explain any better so I'll stop here. I dunno, thing just shines There is a bug in some hosts right now where L/R and M/S aren't retained correctly when switching modes, but they know about it and I expect a hotfix pretty soon with the kind of attention the 432 EQ has been grabbing. The other thing I was missing was the White Channel. I had to pick British Channel or White Channel last time I made a purchase and I feel like I got the one I should have waited for, as I've had several opportunities to use the White Channel's feature set and not as many to use the British Channel's overall sound and less precise gate and different behavior when driven. Ah, well. T-RackS might have been kind of a joke a long time ago but these days this stuff is really, really good. They hold up very well in comparisons to hardware, let alone in comparisons to other plugins. Very happy with the full package (for now, heh). They also updated the saturation behavior at extremes and pretty much every T-Racks CS plugin benefits from that (except, ironically, maybe the 432 because it's so clean). Much more pro sound even when dealing with less than ideally tracked material. It's some kind of big under the hood overhaul that they aren't going into a ton of detail about but which pretty clearly changes a LOT, not hard to test that theory and find out for yourself.
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Is using an iLok dongle a largely hassle-free experience? I've been looking into drum triggering and Slate Trigger 2 seems to offer the best value for money but it requires an iLok to run. Even with the additional $55 for what an iLok 2.0 would cost me the package is still a pretty good deal but I'm loath to introduce anything into my studio setup that could cause instability or other issues. Also I'm running a hackintosh which shouldn't matter really but I don't know if these dongles take system info or anything into account for their protection schemes (like windows activation) and whether it would wig out when the specs of my system only marginally meet what a mac is meant to be. Lots of alliteration in that sentence.
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RandomCheese posted:Is using an iLok dongle a largely hassle-free experience? For almost everybody, yes. Just don't lose it.  Edit: A seen below, potential differences of opinion vary strongly. I've never had issues, but I definitely would have during that downtime - which is loving unforgivable in terms of destroying a studio's workflow for that long, since highly iLok invested studios tend to use multiple products from the same developer, and developers like to standardize to a single copy protection scheme. I didn't even know about it because I was laid up with a severe spinal injury and had rather different priorities. Hopefully Pace has taken measures to improve their uptime, maybe even off an uptime guarantee as a matter of goodwill, but (most) everything you use suddenly becoming deactivated would be a massive turn off from the iLok system, no doubt. I wasn't aware that iLok had moved to an always-on internet connection requirement, either; I wonder how recent that is. I'm glad now that I've already found replacements for everything that was previously iLok. Could you imagine getting some sort of zero-day exploit on your computer with a malware delivery package including cryptolocker and suddenly having to pay hundreds of dollars unless you are 100% on point with cold backups and can get them up and running within the limitations only of the transfer speed of your media? Internet-facing studio computers are a pretty bad damned idea, and even call & response server authorizations from all major companies usually offers an offline authorization method using a third-party computer for the actual authorization part. When did iLok move to all online, all the time? Agreed fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Also hope that the iLok servers never go down like they did for 2 months last year. Then you own't be able to use your poo poo. Signed respectfully, an audio professional who will NEVER touch anything which requires a dongle.
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For my personal use, I like the dongles, because I can switch between computers and operating systems without burning through activations (for example, I am not able to install my legally purchased copies of Ableton Live 8 or 9 anymore at the moment without begging Ableton for more activations). I also prefer it to several challenge/response methods I've had to use. It took me an hour to register the Korg Legacy Collection plugin bundle because of their Rube Goldberg activation scheme. The reason I'm still using my 4-year-old DAW PC because I don't want to have to re-register all my non-dongled software again. The iLok fuckup last year WAS enormous, but for most of the time it only affected people who migrated to PACE's new license manager or were attempting to transfer licenses to/from other users. If you had the previous iLok version installed and your products were already activated, you could still use your products. I don't remember hearing that anyone actually permanently lost any licenses from that. So, yes, it was terrible while it was happening for many iLok customers, but not as bad as I guess it could have been. Also, almost certain iLok doesn't have to be online all the time. This requirement would kill many DJs and gigging musicians (or force them to use cracked versions of software when playing live at some venues). PACE also offers non-dongle/soft licensing now, but whether it's available is at publisher discretion, on a per-product basis. UVI offers it on some of their newer instruments. At the moment my only complaint with the dongle method is that there's not one universal type. I have an eLicenser, an iLok, and a generic thumb drive (for Waves) hanging out the back of my primary DAW box. Radiapathy fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Feb 28, 2014 16:35
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renderful posted:Also hope that the iLok servers never go down like they did for 2 months last year. Then you own't be able to use your poo poo. Cubaaaaaaaaaaaase 
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Feb 28, 2014 16:41
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All the more reason to look into those cheap plugins that just use a serial number and/or one time activation. When NI released Driver for free, I passed on it because of the copy protection. And I imagine that was one of the less annoying ones in the scheme of things. I just can't deal with that poo poo.
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Feb 28, 2014 16:59
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I like how Audio Damage just removed DRM from their plugins entirely.
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This is why you should take care what plugins you buy. Seriously, as a programmer and general computer guy the DRM-hell that is VST's hurts my brain. It's a similar issue to what's going on with games these days, but unlike gamers we don't really have a lot of tech-savvy people to call the companies out on their bullshit. Easiest way to be able to actually use the plugins you bought, wherever you might need them..? Pirate them 
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From Waldorf's Facebook page:quote:(German) Gute Nachrichten für Largo- und PPG-User: Die 64-Bit-Versionen sind jetzt im Beta-Test und zur Musikmesse als final angekündigt - Markus (Hinweis: Tippfehler geändert) Hell freezing over, pigs flying, etc. Radiapathy fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Unnnnnnnnnnghhhhhh that's some tasty news.
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Ooooh, now to decide between Largo and PPG Wavegenerator. I'll probably grab Kaivo first, anyway.
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renderful posted:Ooooh, now to decide between Largo and PPG Wavegenerator. Kaivo and Aalto are the best VST synths ever made, so, yeah, this is a good idea.
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Oldstench posted:Kaivo and Aalto are the best VST synths ever made, so, yeah, this is a good idea. I watched the Kaivo video and I never want to hear that dude say sonic... exploration ever again.
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Swagger Dagger posted:I watched the Kaivo video and I never want to hear that dude say sonic... exploration ever again. I haven't seen the video you're talking about, but drat, you can do some serious sonic exploration in Kaivo.
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Oldstench covered this already in the synthesizers thread, but Kaivo is out now! GO GO GO GO GO!!!  Oldstench posted:The first version wouldn't even run on my machine. Windows 7 32-bit, i5, Live 9.1. Randy sent me some other builds to help figure out what was going on and I think he's nailed it. Still takes about 50% of my CPU for 4 voices, and I have to disconnect my wireless internet dongle or I get pops and crackles, but it's worth it.
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minidracula posted:Oldstench covered this already in the synthesizers thread, but Kaivo is out now! Runs like a champ at up to 7 voices with complex modulation routings now. He optimized the gently caress out of it.
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Heads up Windows users, 32-bit or 64-bit, and sorry Mac users: cool new amp sim freebie! This is an emulation PLUS (more on that later) of the AXP aka SoftAmp posted:[The] Frontman 25R was the first guitar amp I've ever owned. To my best knowledge its digital model did not exist, so I decided to fill the gap. And after all, who needs yet another incarnation of say, JCM800? Click the image to go to the download page on AXP's site.  The model is feature complete, and then some. It includes the amp, an expanded stereo spring reverb tank (in mono mode, it uses the amp's original spring reverb tone - in stereo mode, well, just try it for yourself, you'll see, it's neat!), and cabinet emulation, selectable between the original 1x10" combo speaker or an external 2x12" speaker cabinet or neither. It also has a totally loving awesome "AXP mod" switch that turns it into some kind of badass tube amp by replacing all the solid state clippy bits with his triode emulation, and re-voicing the EQ to turn it into a totally different cool amp model. I was a beta tester for the whole process and had no clue that this last bit was coming, he kept it under his hat until release and it turned out great I will take credit for the suggestion to allow for switching between the 1x10" open back original cab or the 2x12 external cab sim, but only in the sense that he ran the idea by me and I said "yeah that sounds like a good idea."It also has a very fancy manual with graphs that would make Ross Perot jealous, including frequency response graphs and good explanations of features and all that good stuff that you usually associate with paying money for. Seriously, this dude knows his poo poo. So those links up there in bold, before the amp, download those plugins too while you're at it and enjoy 'em if you haven't ever come across them before. I hadn't, and I actively try to keep up to date with all sorts of freeware developments, especially modeling-related stuff.  Apparently he just never advertises his software but his expertise is quite apparent.Usage cases include: whatever you want - yeah, it's a guitar amp sim, so run a guitar through it, but it's also great for dirtying up a synth through it, or just turning it way up on its own to generate noise (potentially with reverb!); think it and it can be. The Power is Yours. okay now heads down there's a sniper
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You people werent joking about the Klanghelm SDRR - I actually prefer it to Soundtoys Decapitator. Extremely good value at 22 euros as well. Thanks guys!
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:You people werent joking about the Klanghelm SDRR - I actually prefer it to Soundtoys Decapitator. Extremely good value at 22 euros as well. I finally bought it after you posted this. It absolutely owns bones. I prefer it to Decapitator also, the SSDR is like a filet knife and decapitator is a meat clever. Does anyone else notice that it's oddly CPU intensive though? I start getting CPU errors when I have a few instances running but only if I'm actually looking at it, If I close it I stop getting them. I guess the GUI is very graphics heavy. How's the compressor? My interest in this guy is certainly piqued now.
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Well thanks for the reply dicks. I kid. Anyway I just bought the compressor and mixed a track with it today. It is easily the best bus compressor I own now. It's the most flexible by far and you almost have to try to make something sound bad with it. That being said, as with the SDRR, it is similarly, if not more CPU heavy. My 2Ghz i7 will start crashing after 2-3 instances of it running.
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Sorry man I didn't have anything else to add an already evangelized the poo poo out of Klanghelm. The bee's knees, imo. Does seem to respond better to fewer faster cores than many slower ones, though, yeah. That is not uncommon with the development framework being used there, which is kind of ironic since it's a cockos product yet Reaper started life with one of the most prominent goals being "don't suck at multithreading, EVER" because the dude behind it made it on an old Opteron-based octocore system. Well, that's the host, not the plugin, anyway.
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It's a huge deal I guess, it'll force me to sum in my console more and force me to just make decisions and stick with them.
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I have two requests for the wizards here. 1) Is there any sort of plugin that will take MIDI in and try to analyse what key the piece is in? 2) I need some awful choir sounds. The cheesiest poo poo possible, while being recognizable as an attempt at a human voice. Any plugins/samples you guys can recommend?
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Make choral samples sound artificial by: chopping off the attack phase and only use the looping part. Use an envelope with almost instantaneous attack and release. Map one sample per octave. Do not use reverb or delay on it. Or record yourself singing ooooh and aaah and put it in a sampler using the above techniques for maximum comedy. Any general midi soundfont or sampleset will have two lovely patches of choral sounds. If you've got a sampler plugin that will take SF2 or SFZ, it shouldn't be hard to find something terrible for free. The smaller the filesize the better.
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Not that anyone but professional mastering engineers should attempt mastering, but Ian Shepherd's Perception plug-in sure is the bee's knees for accurately assessing the impact of a processing chain for those of us who happily ignore best practices : http://productionadvice.co.uk/perception/
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