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SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"
I have this joke with my Russian friends that Russia is the American Conservative’s utopia. Gays and Muslims are openly discriminated against, the Government only spends money on bloated military projects leaving infrastructure and social services up to “private philanthropy” (even services that are said to be provided by the Government such like child care), and it is a truly free market system since you need to bribe someone be the highest bidder to do or get anything. I would love to see them try to live in their idea of utopia.

SwitchbladeKult fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 17, 2014

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burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

SwitchbladeKult posted:

I have this joke with my Russian friends that Russia is the American Conservative’s utopia. Gays and Muslims are openly discriminated against, the Government only spends money on bloated military projects leaving infrastructure and social services up to “private philanthropy” (even services that are said to be provided by the Government such like child care), and it is a truly free market system since you need to bribe someone be the highest bidder to do or get anything. I would love to see them try to live in their idea of utopia.

Putin is also just authoritarian enough so he can criminalize whatever thing of the week freep is up in arms about without anyone asking if that's legal or if the president has that kind of power, but has elections that give freepers the illusion that they have power over Putin, and if he becomes a RINO they can vote in LDPR instead.

In a kinda terrifying way, if Russia's state church was Evangelical protestantism and they spoke English, Russia under Putin would be identical to freep's ideal USA (save for the state owned gas company, but I'm sure a law banning minarets or restarting the Warsaw Pact would make freepers forgive his blatant socialism).

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:

quote:

To: libstripper
if you think urban yuts weren’t feeling immunity in playing the “knockout game”, just wait....this case will further encourage them to “step it up”.

there will be a sense of immunity going forward. I can crank my kanye up as loud as I want and nobody can do nothing to me!

the inner cities are literally becoming warzones.


47 posted on 2/15/2014 4:33:19 PM by ealgeone (obama, border)

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Freepers: I can crank my kanye up as loud as I want

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
That's funny considering Kanye has the song "Can't Tell Me Nothin"

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

So gunfire is a perfectly rational, reasonable and directly proportional response to rap music being played a little too loud in a moving automobile. Good to know.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Vagabundo posted:

So gunfire is a perfectly rational, reasonable and directly proportional response to rap music being played a little too loud in a moving automobile. Good to know.

Only after you initiate a shouting match with the other person.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Vagabundo posted:

So gunfire is a perfectly rational, reasonable and directly proportional response to rap music being played a little too loud in a moving automobile. Good to know.

There have been people on Freep who advocated gunfire to respond to popcorn being tossed at you.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

ArchangeI posted:

There have been people on Freep who advocated gunfire to respond to popcorn being tossed at you.

Yep. "It's a common distraction technique while they pull out their gun with their other hand."

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
Hey, speaking of rap music it appears freepers have found a new appreciation for the genre because they really like the lyrics of this anti-gay response to Macklemore's song
Christian Rapper Responds To Macklemore’s “Same Love”, Gets Death Threats From LGBT Community

quote:

To: Texas Eagle
But understand this, that in the last days
There will come times of difficulty
For people will be lovers of self
Lovers of money, proud, arrogant
Abusive, disobedient to their parents
Ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable
Slanderous, without self-control, brutal
Not loving good, treacherous, reckless
Swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God
Having the appearance of godliness
But denying its power

Woe to he who calls evil good and good evil…

[Verse: Bizzle]
It’s funny how the media portrays things
They really pushing hard for this gay thing
And it’s so wicked how they manipulate things
Can’t even disagree without them making it a hate thing
I say you wrong, and you holla “hate” instantly
But you say we the ones who don’t tolerate differences
There’s a whole lot of things I could say really
But, see your hypocrisy is something I could paint vividly
Saying, it’s the way you was born, and I’m sure that
You lust just like I do just in a different form
But I’m married so if I give into mine, I’m a cheater
If you give into yours, you just fight to make it legal
You rather fight God, then fight sin
The Bible is alright, until it calls what you like sin
And I feel so disrespected that you were so desperate
You would compare your sexual habits to my skin (What?!?)
Calling it the new black
Tell me where they do that
They hung us like tree ornaments, where were you at?
They burned us for entertainment, you go through that?
Mom’s raped in front of they kids, while they shoot dad
Ever been murdered just for trying to learn how to read bro? (Nope.)
A show of hands?
I didn’t think so
So, quit comparing the two. It ain’t the same fight
You can play straight. We can never play white
Using black people as pawns for yo’ agenda
And these sell out rappers will do whatever you tell em’
Skirts on stages, campaigning for that black vote
Afraid to be blackballed, so they play that role
You were never oppressed, the devil was a liar
The only thing oppressed was yo sexual desire
Keeping yo’ desires oppressed is so lame to you
But when you get married, that’s what you expect yo’ mate to do
It angers you, if I compare you to a pedophile
Cuz’ he sick, right?
And you’re better how?
(Man, I ain’t choose this.)
You think he chose that?
(But, I was born this.)
Well, prove he wasn’t born that
But, you were never a girl
He was once nine
So at one time in his life, it was just fine
What makes your loss right?
I’m not buying it
So, put him in that same trash can you threw that bible in
See how that cycle is?
Nobody wants to repent of they evil
So, we all try justifying it
And you say it’s about rights, but you lying tho
Domestic partnerships gave you rights a long time ago
God created marriage, when he did, he defined it tho’
So why is it you want we He created, but deny Him tho?
It’s not wicked enough, switching the definition?
You want it done by a Christian in a church he worships in?
And that rainbow you using as a gay pride symbol (you stole that)
It represents a covenant with God if you didn’t know
Check Genesis 9:13 for the info
Homie, the war is spiritual, you don’t know what you in fo’
I ain’t sayin’ yo’ sin is worse, but it is sin tho
The Lord took the punishment for it all on Him tho (Praise God)
We just gotta repent tho
The problem is if you don’t call it sin, then
You walk as if there’s nothing to repent for
Let’s recap:
We all wicked and desire sin
But imagine a world where no one kept there desires in
If something was called right cuz’ simply we desired it
When yo’ right goes against my right, who’s right would win
As for being born that way
I should never see ya’ll
Ever see use a word like “retard”
To describe someone who was born a little differently than we are
I guess down syndrome really isn’t a thing ya’ll
What do we call yo’ syndrome?
Oh, that term is offensive now when it hits home?
So, what gives you the right to call the way he was born a defect?
I call yours a defect, you feel it’s disrespect
You don’t believe in God?
Hey, the universe says if we all gay
We either die off or have to do it God’s way
And God loves you no matter what you struggle with
At least struggle tho, don’t just give up and quit
Forget how you were born
We were all born in sin
But Christ died for your sin
You can be born again (Praise God for forgiveness)
We were all born in sin
But Christ died so we can be born again
Hallelujah!

[Outro: Bizzle]
And I never want to act like
All gay people are the same because that’s ignorant
But at the same time
What I won’t allow you to do
Is paint this beautiful picture
Like we don’t have people from the LGBT community out here
Running up in churches, disrupting services
Kissing on the pulpit
Out here attacking old ladies
Throwing crosses down and stomping em’
Violently assaulting people
So don’t take my most aggressive lines that you know are to that group
And try to apply it to the friendliest
Lovingest gay person because that’s not the case
And to that struggling Christian right now
Struggling with homosexuality
Fight the good fight soldier
No matter what anybody says
We all have different desires
We all are drawn toward different sin
And my desire might not be your desire
But I have a desire that’s just as strong for another sin
And I have to fight it day in and day out
And sometimes I win and sometimes I lose
Sometimes I stand and sometimes I fall
But fight the good fight
God is worth it
God bless you
No hate about it
I love you


2 posted on 2/17/2014 9:07:55 AM by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
Man, some serious theology in this. The man has thought about it. Good for him.


4 posted on 2/17/2014 9:15:54 AM by Mercat
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quote:

To: Mercat
He really did a good job. Not into rap music but that song really was good.


8 posted on 2/17/2014 9:19:47 AM by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Yorlik803
Some good words and thoughts in that. They are tempted so they are born that way.


6 posted on 02/17/2014 7:17:40 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back
If they were truly “born that way,” there would be no such thing as FORMER homosexuals.


62 posted on 02/17/2014 1:11:54 PM PST by afsnco
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quote:

To: Army Air Corps; Mrs. Don-o
Well I think this is an excellent sign that the Christian rapper’s rap hit home.

I say keep on rappin’. Till Satan is permanently in hell.


51 posted on 2/17/2014 1:09:30 PM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you. See my page.)
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quote:

quote:

To: Texas Eagle
Christian Rapper
Just like you can't be a democrat and honestly call yourself a Christian....

I don't see how you can be a Christian and a jabbering murderer at the same time.

9 posted on 2/17/2014 9:20:08 AM by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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quote:

To: ROCKLOBSTER
huh?


14 posted on 02/17/2014 7:29:56 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Mercat
Rapper = jabbering murderer


16 posted on 02/17/2014 7:39:35 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Sad for you. You’re in the same category as the LBGT people sending him death threats.


20 posted on 02/17/2014 7:47:22 AM PST by Mercat
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Comment #24 Removed by Moderator
Ahahahaha, couldn't find a cache of the removed comment but it sounds like he cried about being slandered :yum:

quote:

To: ROCKLOBSTER
You call this artist a murderer, and then you have the nerve to accuse someone of slandering you. How ironic.


40 posted on 02/17/2014 9:27:24 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk
You call this artist a murderer
No I didn't...he did, by becoming a "rapper".

"Traditional" Rap is all about bitches, hos, killing cops and getting even wit whitey. Trying to get your message out by emulating these murdering thugs is at the very least...deceptive.

You think the gangsta-rapper and ghetto hos, are going to give this "artist" a second listen?

I suppose you could record a long compilation of car crashes, breaking glass and screaming, string it all together in an audio stream and call it music, or art...but it isn't.

Neither is rap. Other than the writing of the lyrics, minimal talent is used.

45 posted on 02/17/2014 10:13:56 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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Totally cool with the police if it is used to repress the gays

quote:

To: Texas Eagle
Look, if you’re going to criticize a hate group, you need to get your ducks in a row, first. This means that when the hate flows in your direction, you are ready to record it and respond forcefully, by doing things like contacting police agencies.


12 posted on 2/17/2014 9:25:02 AM by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Texas Eagle
Behold the intolerant hate-filled left.


13 posted on 2/17/2014 9:25:27 AM by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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quote:

To: Texas Eagle
Imagine when ALL the positions of authority in the military, police, and education are taken of by the libtard homosexual advocates.
If you want something to compare read “The Pink Swastika” about what happens when people with no moral compass are put in charge.

15 posted on 02/17/2014 7:32:24 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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quote:

To: Mr. K
Actually, that thought has been occurring to me more and more lately.

I wonder at the same time how it is that Moose Limbs are gaining power and influence in the same arenas.

It just seems incongruous.

17 posted on 02/17/2014 7:42:33 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Student forced to apologize for emailing pic of Obama kicking a door, because RACISM

quote:

To: grundle

52 posted on 2/17/2014 11:56:47 AM by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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quote:

To: grundle
Pointing out a very un-presidential action by a president is not racist in a sane society.


7 posted on 2/17/2014 10:18:43 AM by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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quote:

To: grundle
Americans need to get over these allegations of racism by the communists all of the time. It’s their best weapon against us. If you refuse to allow those allegations to affect you, YOU WIN.


23 posted on 2/17/2014 10:28:04 AM by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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quote:

To: FlingWingFlyer
Exactly.
If someone calls me racist, I say “yeah? So, now what?”


61 posted on 2/17/2014 1:41:59 PM by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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quote:

To: grundle
read once where this kicking did NOT happen..photo shopped movie?


5 posted on 02/17/2014 8:17:46 AM PST by stickywillie (how come there are no father-in-law jokes?)
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To: stickywillie
From Snopes:

This clip is one of a number of spoof video comedy bits
featuring famous people (with President Obama being a frequent subject) which comedian Jay Leno inserted into his Tonight Show monologues during his tenure as host of that venerable late-night talk show. The clip in its original context had Leno deadpanning that “President Obama’s body language is pretty subtle,” and the following video shows how the original clip was altered to produce the comedic “door-kicking” version:


55 posted on 02/17/2014 10:17:20 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: grundle
That's not Obama. That's Steve Bridges.
He died shortly after parodying Obama.

Anaphylactic shock.

It can be very handy to know everyone's medical weaknesses, can't it?

STEVE BRIDGES 1963-2012 (Impersonator Who Offended Obama)

14 posted on 2/17/2014 10:22:29 AM by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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That link? Takes you to another freep thread where they all speculate on how Obama had him murdered

quote:

To: grundle
Stop kicking doors open like a petulant child, Obama, and we will consider not posting it.


20 posted on 2/17/2014 10:25:38 AM by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: grundle
Ah, yes, Universities. Those shining edifices wherein thought is encouraged and open discourse invited on a variety of learned topics (Insert the screech of someone dragging a phonograph needle across the vinyl here).
What incredibly oppressive stamp mills the so-called institutions of higher learning have become. When even the video of real events is suppressed because the academic overlords just don't want to see it, it is no wonder that dreck like the intellectual effluent of "Global Warming" and "Grievance Studies" are their products.

29 posted on 2/17/2014 10:32:00 AM by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: grundle
These rediculous accusations do have positive points:

1. They identify the accuser as one who most probably shouldn’t be in college for any reason whatsoever due to weak intellect and poor self-esteem.
2. They also identify the user as pursuing an academic “major” that should more probably have been covered in sixth grade.
3. However, they do provide your local coffee joints with lists of future baristas.
4. And - of most imporance - they identify that college as one of N (where N is a very large number) that has questionable academic standards...and no moral ones.


25 posted on 2/17/2014 10:28:34 AM by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote
Be careful there - A specialist in microaggression would point out that your use of “N” to represent a large number is evidence of your deeply ingrained racism.They would perceive it as a subtle reference to the “n” word and would excoriate you for it.


35 posted on 2/17/2014 10:42:49 AM by Bob
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To: grundle
Normal people lost. Marxism won. If you’re White you have no rights.


50 posted on 2/17/2014 11:27:34 AM by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: grundle
Anti-racism has devolved to being anti-white. So the minority group racists pull out all kinds of garbage to justify their anti-white behavior


51 posted on 2/17/2014 11:28:44 AM by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: grundle
There is no freedom of speech in Canada or England. I am reminded of China during the Cultural Revolution when out of favor officials sat with dunce hats on their heads and had to confess to all their “crimes.” Canada and the UK are very close to that point, even with Conservative PMs who have done NOTHING to roll back the PC tide.


54 posted on 2/17/2014 12:15:45 PM by armydawg505
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Does Canada have free speech rights? Apparently not. They can now be considered to be part and parcel Commies.


56 posted on 2/17/2014 12:29:40 PM by EinNYC
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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

quote:

To: Carry me back
If they were truly “born that way,” there would be no such thing as FORMER homosexuals.


62 posted on 02/17/2014 1:11:54 PM PST by afsnco
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So very close...

SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"
So I was reading about "victim complex" on Wikipedia since it seems to be a common theme among the hardest of core conservatives. Turns out it’s the most common type of delusion suffered by schizophrenia patients. Apparently social isolation, external criticism, feelings of vulnerability, inferiority or loneliness, and holding minority socio-cultural beliefs are all factors in causing or worsening schizophrenia. Could it be these people are all just suffering from mental illness? Maybe they just need a hug? :glomp:

I say this only half joking. I really would like to understand these poo poo-stains. I want to think of them as human beings and not as the vile hate filled monsters they present themselves as. Then again, it is these very echo chambers that very likely produced Zimmerman, Dunn, Reeves, and Lanza. Can we get some socialized medicine here already?

SwitchbladeKult fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Feb 17, 2014

Mineaiki
Nov 20, 2013

I don't even think Zimmerman is on the Freeper level. Zimmerman probably doesn't hang out online whining about how black people are destroying white, straight America. He probably just believes something like that (maybe less with America being white-only) and thinks about it sometimes, but that's the extent of it. If he were a Freeper I think he'd be even more outspoken in the media, and he would have been buried much faster because of that by more mainstream conservatives.

No, I think Zimmerman is what Freepers want to be. Kind of like how the netouyo (Hard right-wing Japanese netizens for those of you not in-the-know) talk about mighty Japan putting the lesser Asian countries in their place, when in reality these guys would be the last ones to sign up for the new IJN. Zimmerman is a Freeper hero, not a Freeper.

Huge Liability
Mar 2, 2010

kik2dagroin posted:

Hey, speaking of rap music it appears freepers have found a new appreciation for the genre because they really like the lyrics of this anti-gay response to Macklemore's song

Against my greater judgement, I decided to read through the lyrics. And I had a bit of a laugh at first. Oh, those wacky Christians, I thought. Until I got to this part:

quote:

It angers you, if I compare you to a pedophile
Cuz’ he sick, right?
And you’re better how?
(Man, I ain’t choose this.)
You think he chose that?
(But, I was born this.)
Well, prove he wasn’t born that
But, you were never a girl
He was once nine
So at one time in his life, it was just fine

What in the world?

I've seen Freep compare gays to pedophiles a million times, but is this actually arguing that pedophiles are morally superior to gays? If I'm reading that right, it's by far one of the craziest and most disgusting things I've seen in this thread.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Zimmerman is the kind of loser that obsesses over authority and desperately wanted to be a cop. He's applied for police academy a couple of times and was rejected (I believe), so he became a neighborhood watch member. Of course he couldn't just be content with calling the cops if he saw something suspicious, no he had to carry his gun around with him where ever he went in a gated community. While I don't believe he's an out and out racist, he definitely holds biases and so was perfectly happy to assume that Trayvon Martin was up to no good.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Celery Face posted:

Why do Freepers (okay, super homophobic people in general) instantly think of anal sex whenever anything that has to do with homosexuality is brought up? And they call gay people perverts. :ironicat: Besides, isn't it common knowledge that straight people have anal too and not all gay men even do it?

Freepers are the most traditionally heteronormative people. In their minds, the word "Sex" translates to "A man puts his penis inside something". Everything they post about sex follows from that base idea. One of the funniest things about it is that the way they talk, you'd think lesbians don't exist. They never mention lesbians at all unless it involves painting them as ugly butch bra-burners or whatever goes through their heads.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Mineaiki posted:

I don't even think Zimmerman is on the Freeper level. Zimmerman probably doesn't hang out online whining about how black people are destroying white, straight America. He probably just believes something like that (maybe less with America being white-only) and thinks about it sometimes, but that's the extent of it. If he were a Freeper I think he'd be even more outspoken in the media, and he would have been buried much faster because of that by more mainstream conservatives.

No, I think Zimmerman is what Freepers want to be. Kind of like how the netouyo (Hard right-wing Japanese netizens for those of you not in-the-know) talk about mighty Japan putting the lesser Asian countries in their place, when in reality these guys would be the last ones to sign up for the new IJN. Zimmerman is a Freeper hero, not a Freeper.

Zimmerman was a Freeper hero when he wasn't found guilty in the Trayvon case. But then Zimmerman kept doing awful poo poo and even the majority of Freep has backed away from him now.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
It's almost like every single Freeper is involved in a loveless, abusive relationship with a (real or imagined) spouse and cannot believe there is any reason anyone would form a relationship if it wasn't for sex.

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013

Huge Liability posted:

Against my greater judgement, I decided to read through the lyrics. And I had a bit of a laugh at first. Oh, those wacky Christians, I thought. Until I got to this part:


What in the world?

I've seen Freep compare gays to pedophiles a million times, but is this actually arguing that pedophiles are morally superior to gays? If I'm reading that right, it's by far one of the craziest and most disgusting things I've seen in this thread.

I decided to listen to it without any idea what was coming. I got to "they hung us like tree ornaments, where were you" and had to close the youtube window because I wanted to comment "Matthew Shepard Matthew Shepard Matthew Shepard Matthew Shepard" and then have a heart attack.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

VirtualStranger posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Freepers: I can crank my kanye up as loud as I want
Literal warzones = places where Kanye is too loud.

Bashar Assad broke international law when he cranked his Kanye all the way up.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Oh my god a second Minaj has just hit the World Trade Center!

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

I am not a book posted:

I decided to listen to it without any idea what was coming. I got to "they hung us like tree ornaments, where were you" and had to close the youtube window because I wanted to comment "Matthew Shepard Matthew Shepard Matthew Shepard Matthew Shepard" and then have a heart attack.

But don't you know, the Matthew Shepard story was all just a myth! The left-wing media just wanted to create a martyr, Matthew Shepard was just a meth dealer that got killed because a deal went bad, not because he was gay!

... This is actually a popular freeper talking point :smithicide:

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
People are being executed right loving now for being gay, not to mention extrajudicial murders.

Huge Liability posted:

Against my greater judgement, I decided to read through the lyrics. And I had a bit of a laugh at first. Oh, those wacky Christians, I thought. Until I got to this part:


What in the world?

I've seen Freep compare gays to pedophiles a million times, but is this actually arguing that pedophiles are morally superior to gays? If I'm reading that right, it's by far one of the craziest and most disgusting things I've seen in this thread.

I can't emptyquote this but yeah. Sometimes I just have to remind myself that we wouldn't be hearing this stuff if they weren't slowly losing.

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

But don't you know, the Matthew Shepard story was all just a myth! The left-wing media just wanted to create a martyr, Matthew Shepard was just a meth dealer that got killed because a deal went bad, not because he was gay!

... This is actually a popular freeper talking point :smithicide:

It's like holocaust denial. They deny that a violent manifestation of bigotry happened, claim it's exaggerated and completely unlikely, then turn around and talk about how it would totally be a good thing if it did happen and how they'd do it if given a chance.

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

Huge Liability posted:

Against my greater judgement, I decided to read through the lyrics. And I had a bit of a laugh at first. Oh, those wacky Christians, I thought. Until I got to this part:


What in the world?

I've seen Freep compare gays to pedophiles a million times, but is this actually arguing that pedophiles are morally superior to gays? If I'm reading that right, it's by far one of the craziest and most disgusting things I've seen in this thread.

I think it's just making the comparison. Saying, basically, "if people can be born gay, they can be born pedophiles too, right? :smug:"

Crashbee
May 15, 2007

Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.

Wizard of Smart posted:

I think it's just making the comparison. Saying, basically, "if people can be born gay, they can be born pedophiles too, right? :smug:"

I think Huge Liability is referring to the 'You were never a girl. He was once nine, so at one time in his life, it was just fine' lines. I don't even get what that's trying to say, that nine-year-olds having sex with each other is okay I guess?

Crashbee fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Feb 18, 2014

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

To: grundle
Anti-racism has devolved to being anti-white. So the minority group racists pull out all kinds of garbage to justify their anti-white behavior


51 posted on 2/17/2014 11:28:44 AM by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Oh cool, explicitly white supremacist bullshit.

Of course he didn't say friend of the family or negroid so it's completely not racist and totally fine though.

The Anime Turnpike
Dec 30, 2010

Crashbee posted:

I think Huge Liability is referring to the 'You were never a girl. He was once nine, so at one time in his life, it was just fine' lines. I don't even get what that's trying to say, that nine-year-olds having sex with each other is okay I guess?

It's a big thing with 4chan and reddit type pedos, they say: "I liked ten year olds when I was ten, why stop now?"

Huge Liability
Mar 2, 2010

Crashbee posted:

I think Huge Liability is referring to the 'You were never a girl. He was once nine, so at one time in his life, it was just fine' lines. I don't even get what that's trying to say, that nine-year-olds having sex with each other is okay I guess?

Yes. To me, it sounds like he's saying, "Homosexuals and pedophiles are both born with sick urges, but at least the pedophile's urges were appropriate at one point in his life, while homosexuality is always wrong."

I'd never heard that argument before and I find it very bizarre. Like I said, I've seen right-wingers try to compare homosexuality to pedophilia many times, and I get what they're trying to do. It's obviously completely awful, but I understand it.

But arguing that homosexuality is worse than pedophilia is a whole other level of insanity to me, not just because of how wrong it is, but because I cannot begin to understand what they think they stand to gain from defending pedophilia.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

They're not defending pedophilia. They are saying homosexuality is even worse to justify beating gays to death at every opportunity.

Edit: Actually given the history of straight people using marriage to legitimize kiddy-diddlin', maybe they do think pedophilia is no big deal as long as a Church is willing to call it a marriage! :v:

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Feb 18, 2014

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Wizard of Smart posted:

I think it's just making the comparison. Saying, basically, "if people can be born gay, they can be born pedophiles too, right? :smug:"

I just don't understand this line of logic. Even if it were true, which honestly it probably is although pedophilia I feel is a much more complex issue than just something people are born into. If I'm remembering correctly many child abusers were themselves victims of sexual abuse as children. Anyways, provided that this is correct, it doesn't change the fact that an adult taking part in a homosexual relationship is different from a child forced into a sexual relationship they have no understanding of. It's completely different! One is a consenting adult, the other is a child who is not capable of consent given their lack of maturity.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Darkman Fanpage posted:

I just don't understand this line of logic. Even if it were true, which honestly it probably is although pedophilia I feel is a much more complex issue than just something people are born into. If I'm remembering correctly many child abusers were themselves victims of sexual abuse as children. Anyways, provided that this is correct, it doesn't change the fact that an adult taking part in a homosexual relationship is different from a child forced into a sexual relationship they have no understanding of. It's completely different! One is a consenting adult, the other is a child who is not capable of consent given their lack of maturity.

There's your problem. To them, anything besides a straight, missionary sex without enjoyment is wrong.

I guess if you want to get technical, consent to them means only marriage and only in the vagina. Anything else is equally as bad in the eyes of St Reagan.

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

DemeaninDemon posted:

There's your problem. To them, anything besides a straight, missionary sex without enjoyment is wrong.

I guess if you want to get technical, consent to them means only marriage and only in the vagina. Anything else is equally as bad in the eyes of St Reagan.

Basically. Consent = marriage, and marriage = consent. If you ever need a nice quick blood pressure boost, look up right wing opinions on spousal rape at some point.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

change my name posted:

Oh my god a second Minaj has just hit the World Trade Center!

We knew the world would not be the same. Few people laughed, few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hip-hop scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Jeff Townes is trying to persuade the Fresh Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form, lays a phat beat on the turntable and says, "Now I am become DJ Jazzy Jeff, the layer of sick rhythms." I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Feb 18, 2014

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Huge Liability posted:

Yes. To me, it sounds like he's saying, "Homosexuals and pedophiles are both born with sick urges, but at least the pedophile's urges were appropriate at one point in his life, while homosexuality is always wrong."

I'd never heard that argument before and I find it very bizarre. Like I said, I've seen right-wingers try to compare homosexuality to pedophilia many times, and I get what they're trying to do. It's obviously completely awful, but I understand it.

But arguing that homosexuality is worse than pedophilia is a whole other level of insanity to me, not just because of how wrong it is, but because I cannot begin to understand what they think they stand to gain from defending pedophilia.

It sounds to me like "Well at least a pedophile is still attracted to the opposite sex!" which is just :psyduck:

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Elephant Ambush posted:

It sounds to me like "Well at least a pedophile is still attracted to the opposite sex!" which is just :psyduck:

Which is especially funny given the fact that many people on the far-right think that pedophiles are exclusively or at least predominantly homosexual.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
Do y'all think freepers are aware of Rap Genius? Because ahahaha someone annotated nearly every line of that song! What could that pedophilia line possibly mean?

quote:

It angers the homosexual community when Bizzle compares them to pedophiles. That is because pedophiles are seen as sick and twisted people. He then asks what makes homosexuals any less sexually immoral. The generic response would be referring to how homosexuals are just born that way. Bizzle continues questioning if pedophiles are just born pedophiles. He finishes saying that he wants proof of the “I was born this” theory. Currently there is no consensus among scientists on the decision of whether sexual orientation is completely based on genetics or not.

But there's another annotation!

quote:

Bizzle is asking the LGBT community how their perversions are somehow better than that of a pedophile. Note that he is not saying a pedophile who actually molests a child is the same as a gay person. He is simply talking about impulses. He proves once again the hypocrisy of the homosexual community by showing that they condemn pedophiles, yet they didn’t choose the way they are. Bizzle responds by suggesting that in the same way a gay didn’t necessarily choose to be gay, a pedophile didn’t necessarily choose to be a pedophile. He also counters the homosexual banter that they were born the way they are not by debunking those claims, but by asking them to prove pedophiles weren’t born the way they are.

So I think that's settled.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Notorious QIG posted:

Which is especially funny given the fact that many people on the far-right think that pedophiles are exclusively or at least predominantly homosexual.

It's weird. I think when most Freeper-types hear "pedophile" without any context, they assume an adult man being attracted to underage girls because heteronormativity. But when they hear about gay men without any context, they immediately think that gay men are attracted to any person with a penis regardless of age, because most of them see all "sexual deviancy" as equivalent.

Freeper-types are also, predictably, unaware that most convicted pedophiles are straight men and that most of them target young boys. This is because it is less suspicious in the eyes of society and also because child rapists usually don't care about the gender of the victim. Most people think that rape is about sex, but it's not. Most of the time it's just about having absolute power and control over another person in the worst way possible. This is also why some forms of straight-man-on-straight-man violence involves anal penetration with objects. It's not about sex or sexual attraction at all.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Swan Oat posted:

Do y'all think freepers are aware of Rap Genius? Because ahahaha someone annotated nearly every line of that song! What could that pedophilia line possibly mean?


But there's another annotation!


So I think that's settled.

Its not terribly surprising that freepers aren't familiar with the concept of consent.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
I do hear a shocking percentage of gay men in real life relay a story to me like "I lost my virginity to a 45 year old asian man when I was 12" I almost wonder if that is common.

(Just to be clear, although that is a real-life story, I am not just talkimg about one person)

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

MattD1zzl3 posted:

I do hear a shocking percentage of gay men in real life relay a story to me like "I lost my virginity to a 45 year old asian man when I was 12" I almost wonder if that is common.

(Just to be clear, although that is a real-life story, I am not just talkimg about one person)
That Asian dude gets around, drat.

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Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

Pussy Riot Detained, Released, Then Chased in Sochi

quote:

To: Navy Patriot

Am I the only one who wonders if the name of the group somehow doesn’t translate well into English? A group of girls called Pussy Riot? Or is my mind just in the gutter on this one???

5 posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:47:36 PM by Dilbert San Diego (TH)
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quote:

To: Navy Patriot

A group with a name like that should be outlawed.

35 posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:46:25 PM by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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