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fool of sound: Oct 10, 2012

MonsterEnvy posted:

The Demon Roachs said that their were 9 sides involved at least and we don't know them all.

Sides we know:
-The Order
-The Fiends
-Xykon
-Redcloak/the Dark One
-Hel

Probable sides:
-The Snarl itself, possibly through Laurin
-Rat, who I doubt is fully in line with the Dark One

Possible Sides:
-Sereni, if her motives have changed since the Scribble days
-The other Gods; at least some of them must know what's going on, and some may have their own plans for the last Gate (Loki through Helga especially)

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:28

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# ? May 26, 2024 07:51

ultrafilter: Aug 23, 2007; It's okay if you have any questions.

Maybe Tarquin's allies as well. I don't see them just disappearing, especially after #945.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:30

fool of sound: Oct 10, 2012

ultrafilter posted:

Maybe Tarquin's allies as well. I don't see them just disappearing, especially after #945.

They're not really aware of the nature/potential of the Gates though, are they?

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:32

ultrafilter: Aug 23, 2007; It's okay if you have any questions.

Tarquin knows whatever Nale told him between 821 and 822, which he got straight from Shojo. So yeah, they could conceivably know as much as we do.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:38

Lamhirh: Sep 8, 2012

They now have a very good reason to find out! They're pretty competent, and there might even be intact records or something in the ruins around Girard's gate. I've never doubted that they would be a side, in some form.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:39

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

Pope Guilty posted:

Oh poo poo, they can totally bring back that Priestess of Hel that Durkon had a solo adventure with.

She was a priestess of Loki, not of Hel.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:39

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

This has been an incredible arc.

E: haha, that Twitter convo: 'What class is Tarquin?' @Rich: 'Upper'.

sebmojo fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 19, 2014

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:43

TunaSpleen: Jan 27, 2007; How do I say, "You're the grossest thing ever" without offending you?; Grimey Drawer

fool_of_sound posted:

Sides we know:
-The Order
-The Fiends
-Xykon
-Redcloak/the Dark One
-Hel

Probable sides:
-The Snarl itself, possibly through Laurin
-Rat, who I doubt is fully in line with the Dark One

Possible Sides:
-Sereni, if her motives have changed since the Scribble days
-The other Gods; at least some of them must know what's going on, and some may have their own plans for the last Gate (Loki through Helga especially)

-Sapphire Guard in with OOTS
-Linear Guild, now defunct
-Team Tarquin
-Some evil gods like Tiamat may side with IFCC

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:47

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; by exmarx; Fallen Rib

So Hel is sitting next to Fenrir there, I take it? And she wants access to a gate that may or may not bring about the end of the world and kill a god in particular (Thor)?

I wonder what other Ragnarok elements will come into play here.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:51

Glass of Milk: Dec 22, 2004; to forgive is divine

Nah, it has to be one of the paladins, probably Lien. Think of it, you have Belkar, V with the demonic pact and now vampire Durkon. If that isn't a recipe for some interesting situations with a holy warrior, I don't know what is.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 04:52

Pope Guilty: Nov 6, 2006; The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Cat Mattress posted:

She was a priestess of Loki, not of Hel.

Well nevermind, then.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:06

Ponsonby Britt: Mar 13, 2006; I think you mean, why is there silverware in the pancake drawer? Wassup?

So what's Hel's game here? She says she wants to "bring this world to ruin" and "drive that buffoon Thor to his knees", but how exactly does she plan to use the gate to do that? (I assume that Durkula told her about the Order's mission, and what they know, so she's concerned with the Gate and not just with screwing over the dwarves. Hel's a god, it'd be small potatoes for her plan to be "have Durkula destroy one measly society of dwarves.)

Is she just copying the Dark One's plan (use the gate to blackmail Thor into doing her a favor - maybe make it so that she gets all the dwarven dead)? That wouldn't really fit with ruining the world, though; she'd need the world to keep existing, so she can keep getting dwarf souls.

And based on what we currently know, Hel wouldn't want to just unleash the Snarl on the world; that would certainly ruin it, and piss Thor off, but again, Hel loses her source of dwarf souls, and the Snarl would eventually come for Hel as well.

TunaSpleen posted:

-Some evil gods like Tiamat may side with IFCC

It actually seems like Tiamat might NOT want to do something drastic like destroy the world. The fiends had to lie to her (or fine, tell her a technically correct but misleading truth) instead of just explaining why they needed V, and her Oracle has been awfully helpful to the Order (even trying to push them to Azure City to fight Xykon, instead of the stupid question that Roy ended up asking instead).

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:06

W.T. Fits: Apr 21, 2010; Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

ultrafilter posted:

Tarquin knows whatever Nale told him between 821 and 822, which he got straight from Shojo. So yeah, they could conceivably know as much as we do.

The question is whether or not Tarquin bothered to share this information with anyone else in his group aside from Malack (who was present when Nale spilled the beans). Don't forget that when all was said and done, Tarquin was never interested in the Gate as an objective in and of itself; he merely saw the whole thing as a secret test to see whether or not Nale could still be a controllable asset to him. In that context, whether or not he felt it was worth telling Laurin what he knew about the rift before she ported him back to his throne room is up for debate.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:07

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

I guess we can assume how vampirism works is not common knowledge after all.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:17

ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Eifert Posting posted:

I guess we can assume how vampirism works is not common knowledge after all.

It's common knowledge(religion), but guess which party doesn't have a standing cleric?

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:22

fool of sound: Oct 10, 2012

ikanreed posted:

It's common knowledge(religion), but guess which party doesn't have a standing cleric?

Durkon didn't appear to fully understand it either, so it's not that common.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:24

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

The party now has lawful evil Durkon, chaotic evil Belkar, neutral V, chaotic good Haley, neutral good Elan, and lawful good Roy elements.

Just need a neutral evil, chaotic neutral, and lawful neutral guy and they'll be set. Hell let's say scruffy is chaotic neutral and blackwing is lawful neutral. I can't think of any likely neutral evil folk to join them though.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:28

ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

fool_of_sound posted:

Durkon didn't appear to fully understand it either, so it's not that common.

He might ought to have put in a few more ranks

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:31

Taciturn Tactician: Jan 27, 2011; The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation; Lipstick Apathy

greatn posted:

The party now has lawful evil Durkon, chaotic evil Belkar, neutral V, chaotic good Haley, neutral good Elan, and lawful good Roy elements.

Just need a neutral evil, chaotic neutral, and lawful neutral guy and they'll be set. Hell let's say scruffy is chaotic neutral and blackwing is lawful neutral. I can't think of any likely neutral evil folk to join them though.

Clearly Bloodfeast is neutral evil.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:33

seaborgium: Aug 1, 2002; "Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"

fool_of_sound posted:

Durkon didn't appear to fully understand it either, so it's not that common.

That does make sense though. Good clerics would be more likely to know how to kill a vampire, but not what's actually going on in the process. I'm guessing other clerics of Hel would be a lot more knowledgeable about vampires.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:33

VodeAndreas: Apr 30, 2009

Calaveron posted:

Oh my god another loving antagonist? Really?

It makes sense to give them a dwarven antagonist (of a sort) now they're headed straight for the centre of the dwarven lands.

Hopefully it doesn't delay catching up with some of Xykon antics for too long though.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 05:39

Sefer: Sep 2, 2006; Not supposed to be here today

greatn posted:

The party now has lawful evil Durkon, chaotic evil Belkar, neutral V, chaotic good Haley, neutral good Elan, and lawful good Roy elements.

Just need a neutral evil, chaotic neutral, and lawful neutral guy and they'll be set. Hell let's say scruffy is chaotic neutral and blackwing is lawful neutral. I can't think of any likely neutral evil folk to join them though.

Elan is Chaotic Good, not Neutral Good. Him being CG while Nale is LE is part of their opposites schtick. Or was, I suppose.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 06:01

Ponsonby Britt: Mar 13, 2006; I think you mean, why is there silverware in the pancake drawer? Wassup?

Sefer posted:

Elan is Chaotic Good, not Neutral Good. Him being CG while Nale is LE is part of their opposites schtick. Or was, I suppose.

I think the "opposites" thing is still valid. Elan's alive, Nale's dead.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 06:31

Dr Pepper: Feb 4, 2012; Don't like it? well...

seaborgium posted:

That does make sense though. Good clerics would be more likely to know how to kill a vampire, but not what's actually going on in the process. I'm guessing other clerics of Hel would be a lot more knowledgeable about vampires.

I think Vampire Durkon is literally the first Cleric of Hel in the entire OotS world, but yeah. I bet any Cleric of an Evil God would know the details.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 06:50

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

I bet O-Chul knows what's what. He practically has "gritty vampire hunter" tattooed on his forehead.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 06:54

Lurdiak: Feb 26, 2006; I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.

Captain Oblivious posted:

To the people who were paying attention it was pretty apparent that's what he was ages ago!

Anyone who's read Origin of PCs knew what was going to happen as soon as they announced they were heading to the dwarven lands, if not sooner.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 06:57

Dr. Buttass: Aug 12, 2013; AWFUL SOMETHING

I don't think Durkon is quite so happy about going home any more.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 06:59

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

I'm surprised Hel's into messing with the OotS. She was around for the last Snarl; you'd think she'd put the whole Let's Do Evil thing on the backburner until that's taken care of.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 07:21

Johnny Aztec: Jan 30, 2005; by Hand Knit

MikeJF posted:

I'm surprised Hel's into messing with the OotS. She was around for the last Snarl; you'd think she'd put the whole Let's Do Evil thing on the backburner until that's taken care of.

Gods are incredibly short sighted and petty. She is probably more concerned with the dwarves and Thor than anything else.
"Oh, I am sure someone will take care of that."

# ? Feb 19, 2014 07:38

Combed Thunderclap: Jan 4, 2011

Johnny Aztec posted:

Gods are incredibly short sighted and petty.

Exactly. That's kind of the whole reason the Snarl got created in the first place. Doesn't seem that surprising that the flighty deities might have forgotten their lesson over the millennia.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 07:53

Colonel Cool: Dec 24, 2006

Okay now I'm just about positive that Durkon is going to kill Belkar.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 08:31

My Lovely Horse: Aug 21, 2010

Eifert Posting posted:

I bet O-Chul knows what's what. He practically has "gritty vampire hunter" tattooed on his forehead.

That brings up the very good point that, aware what's up with Durkon specifically or not, O-Chul has much less of a stake ( :v:

) in maintaining a friendship with the vampire. Gonna be fun when they run into him.

I wonder if we'll ever see Malack again. The original tribal shaman, that is. Theoretically he's been trapped in his vampire body for 200 years and only now got to go to the afterlife.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 08:33

jng2058: Jul 17, 2010; We have the tools, we have the talent!

jng2058 posted:

The logical goddess for the new Durkon is Hel. She's a Neutral Evil goddess of Death, he's a Lawful Evil vampire cleric in need of a patron. Durkon's even closer to her alignment than he was to Thor's Chaotic Good, and Rich has been slipping her in to the strip as an antagonist of Thor's so she might be just as wacky in her own way as Thor is in his.

Called this one too. :dance:

Worshiping the general concept of death, my rear end! :rolleyes:

It disturbs me a bit that this prediction was made nearly a year ago, but that's OOTS for ya.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 08:37

DoctorTristan: Mar 11, 2006; I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

jng2058 posted:

It disturbs me a bit that this prediction was made nearly a year ago, but that's OOTS for ya.

gently caress me, this arc has taken a long time.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 09:02

ultrafilter: Aug 23, 2007; It's okay if you have any questions.

Heh. Book five started about a week before I started working on my PhD, and I finished first.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 09:04

Raenir Salazar: Nov 5, 2010; College Slice

My Lovely Horse posted:

I wonder if we'll ever see Malack again. The original tribal shaman, that is. Theoretically he's been trapped in his vampire body for 200 years and only now got to go to the afterlife.

I still don't buy this w.r.t Malack, he clearly thought of himself as well, 'himself', an extension of his previous self, he thought of his once living brothers as his brothers not his host's. That's as clear as day with any cursory read as written interpretation of the text.

My theory is that the magic Malack used to speed up the process required getting a formless outsider and then he himself intended to finish the process in such a way that had Durkon in control; since he had a powerful psion as an ally I think this is plausible. Malack wanted a colleague, and that's what he saw Durkon as, it doesn't jive that he'ld knowingly vampirize him without someway to insure Durkon was mostly himself at the end of the process.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 09:11

MechanicalTomPetty: Oct 30, 2011; Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

DoctorTristan posted:

gently caress me, this arc has taken a long time.

I think more than half the posts in this thread were in response to something that happened this arc.

This thread is 7 years old...

Speaking of which, we should make a new OP before the next arc begins. I think someone said they had one ready to go but they were waiting for the book to wrap up before posting it. Or maybe I'm just really loving tired right now?

MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Feb 19, 2014

# ? Feb 19, 2014 09:17

My Lovely Horse: Aug 21, 2010

Rereading page 2 it seems like it's the difference between Nergal and Hel making a vampire. I guess we'll see original Malack again if original Malack has a role to play in the story, and if not, that works for me as a reason why.

e: technically I did write a draft for a new OP but it's from last July and back then we weren't really all on the same page about how much of the story so far to recap etc. Still, here's what I came up with:

quote:

The Order of the Stick is a fantasy webcomic by graphics and game designer Rich Burlew that builds heavily on Dungeons & Dragons. It follows the titular Order, a ragtag group of adventurers that got together to fulfil one simple task and get dragged into saving their entire world. Business as usual, really.

Although in this case the one simple task was killing an undead sorcerer holed up in a monster-filled dungeon several levels deep so you might say they should have known.

Stick figures?
Yep. Rich Burlew has chosen to illustrate the adventures of the Order in a simple stick figure style that actually turns out to work extremely well. As a professional graphics designer Burlew knows how to use that style and is not just throwing stuff together for simplicity's sake.

At its best, it works out to something like this (fairly recent episode so beware the spoilers).

What you can expect from this comic
Are you a D&D nerd? Welcome, you'll feel right at home here. OotS started out as little more than lampshading silly roleplaying game conventions and game system idiosyncrasies, and while it's moved on from being only that, there's still more than enough of it to keep you entertained. Most of what happens in the comic is based on D&D rules and what could happen next based on the rules is often the basis of speculation here.

However! Rich Burlew is writing his own story and if the rules of D&D don't fit what he wants to do they're the first thing to go out the window. Don't expect the comic to closely follow the rules at all or even most times. Certainly don't expect the characters to be ideal examples of their class and always make the best possible choice - they make mistakes just like anyone.

This is the comic's second strength. Burlew knows drat well how to write an engaging heroic fantasy story, build an interesting world and write characters, and at no point do you need to know any rules minutiae to understand what's going on. The most you need to know about RPGs to enjoy the comic is that sometimes you roll dice and that determines what's going to happen. You know that now so you're good to go!

And thirdly, Rich loves to foreshadow events. Boy does he ever. There are things being revealed right now that were foreshadowed in the comic 4 or 5 years ago, and that's just the ones we know were foreshadowing. You're in for the long haul here.

Lastly, this is very far from a super serious affair. The overarching plot is dramatic and serious, and the comic often hits serious notes, but both verbal and visual jokes are plentiful. This is a good example of what to expect (technically contains a few spoilers but nothing you'll know how to contextualize if you're completely new to the comic). That includes Rich's tendency to cram pages with dialogue sometimes.

The key players

Order of the Stick

Roy Greenhilt - a swordsman who has inherited his father's blood oath to kill the undead sorcerer Xykon and gathered the Order of the Stick to that purpose. It quickly turns out that killing an undead sorcerer is not as easy as it seems, and that the story behind Xykon's evil plans has much greater implications.

Durkon Thundershield - a dwarven cleric of Thor exiled from his homeland. Probably Roy's best friend in all the world, and generally the most level-headed and dependable of the group.

Haley Starshine - street-smart thief and the group's main trap specialist as well as second in command.

Elan - a naive bard with encyclopaedic knowledge of narrative conventions and a bright, easy-going personality. However, not very smart. At all.

Vaarsuvius - gender-ambiguous elven wizard who compensates his lack of foresight with plenty of arrogance.

Belkar Bitterleaf - egotistical, sociopathic violent murderer that Roy keeps around mainly because at least this way he's not totally out of anyone's control.

The Linear Guild

The Linear Guild is a scheme cooked up by Elan's evil twin brother Nale, an adventuring group that is an evil mirror image of the Order of the Stick. The composition varies, because the adventurers Nale hires are often not prime material, but key members are Nale himself, cunning but with an unfortunate penchant for overy complex plans, his succubus lover Sabine, and the orc Thog, who is very dumb but a lethal opponent on the battlefield.

Team Xykon

Xykon, the undead sorcerer, is impatient, cruel and prone to violent outbursts. What's more, he has the magic power to back up his personality, and there is very little in the world that can genuinely threaten him. Xykon has a plan, however, and succeeding is his first priority.

The goblin cleric Redcloak is Xykon's loyal right hand. Or at least as far as he's concerned, that's very convenient for Xykon to think, because Redcloak has his own plans, and they are possibly even more of a danger to the world than Xykon's.

The Monster in the Darkness was chosen as a last measure by Xykon to reveal to his enemies only at the last possible moment. Things did not work out that way. Until the next last possible moment comes along, Xykon and Redcloak force the monster to remain in darkness. The nature of the monster is the subject of a lot of speculation, as it has proven itself to be extremely powerful in different, often surprising ways.

Rich Burlew himself has only said that the monster is not a creature he made up himself, and that it's possible to correctly identify by clues in the comic so far.

Where to read Order of the Stick

Obviously, on the website.

However, the entirety of the comic is available in print in several volumes that include exclusive side storylines. There are also three extra volumes: Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales is a compilation of bonus material (different from the side storylines in the regular books), while On the Origin of PCs and Start of Darkness are prequels that elaborate on the backstories of the Order and Xykon's group, respectively. Start of Darkness in particular is highly recommended as it adds whole new layers to Xykon and Redcloak's motivation, and they're hugely reflected in their actions in the comic proper.

The books are available at Ookoodook.com. Thanks to an extremely successful kickstarter a few months back, all of them are currently in print.

What's left

We don't care much about spoilers in this thread. It's generally assumed that you've read the entire comic so far, and that you have done so in one sitting, it's now 3.27 am, your cat is doing circles around you not knowing what the gently caress and you just remembered you have work in the morning. We've been there.

However, when we talk about stuff that happened in the prequel books, we do use the spoiler tags.

The comic updates irregularly. Rich Burlew has an undisclosed health issue that sometimes keeps him from drawing, and even apart from that the comic is officially on a "new episodes are out whenever they're out" schedule. Update gaps of several days or weeks can happen, during which time we usually discuss recent events or speculate or sperg out on rules minutiae. What we categorically do not do is post other comics, especially terrible ones like Goblins.

Said it before but being about "that's not what the rules say should have happened" is frowned upon.

If the lack of activity on giantitp.com and here becomes unbearable it's common to utter the phrase "I hope Rich is okay" and that seems to trigger new episodes appearing more often than not. Don't wear it out, though, we're not yet sure how it works exactly.

Draft for a story so far thing - again, last July:

quote:

The story so far

A very general outline of the story so far - be warned, I'm going to both not pay any attention at all to spoilers and gloss over a lot of important things. Anything that's collected in a book I'll only note down in the briefest manner possible.

Last warning, spoilers from here out out, go read yourself some comics.

Vol. 1: Dungeon Crawlin' Fools - The Order of the Stick travel through the Dungeon of Dorukan, defeating both the Linear Guild and the lich Xykon, and discover a mysterious gate that soon thereafter is accidentally destroyed.

Vol. 2: No Cure for the Paladin Blues - The Order is arrested by the paladin Miko and brought to Azure City to stand trial for the gate's destruction. It turns out the gate was one of five that seal away a creature called the Snarl, an embodiment of chaos and destruction left over from the creation of the world itself. Xykon has survived his battle with the order and together with Redcloak raises a hobgoblin army to march for the next gate - in Azure City.

Vol. 3: War and XPs - A large-scale battle for Azure City breaks out when Xykon arrives. Roy dies attempting to face him head on, and the Order is split in the chaos - Haley and Belkar are left behind trying to retrieve Roy's body, while Elan, Durkon and Vaarsuvius manage to escape with the civilians of the city while Xykon and Redcloak defeat the army. However, Miko sacrifices herself to destroy the gate, keeping it from falling into Xykon's hands and creating a massive rift in the fabric of reality.

Vol. 4: Don't Split the Party - Haley and Belkar try to reunite with Durkon so he can resurrect Roy. Elan and Durkon handle political issues among the survivors, while a frustrated and desperate Vaarsuvius makes a deal with devils to save his family. Meanwhile, Redcloak establishes a nation of goblins in Azure City, straining his relationship with Xykon. After the eventual reunion of the Order and Roy's resurrection, they travel to the Western continent for the next gate, knowing Xykon is going the same way. Vaarsuvius is the only one who knows that a planet can be seen through the rift.

Current events - The Western continent turns out to be governed largely by Elan's father Tarquin, his companion Malack, priest of a death god, and their associates, who secretly run the continent's tyrannic governments. When the Linear Guild shows up, Nale and Tarquin soon join forces, and Tarquin learns about the gates. Vaarsuvius realizes that a past decision led directly to the gate being undefended shortly before the Order and the Guild meet at the gate, where Malack reveals his vampiric nature, kills Durkon and turns him into a thrall. Outmatched, the Order are forced to destroy the gate, leaving Xykon free to teleport directly to the last gate near the Northern polar cap.

e2: yeah. Really not sure we need the "story so far" or the whole characters section anymore. It's a thread not a wikipedia article.

My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Feb 19, 2014

# ? Feb 19, 2014 09:20

Otherkinsey Scale: Jul 17, 2012; Just a little bit of sunshine!

Dr Pepper posted:

I think Vampire Durkon is literally the first Cleric of Hel in the entire OotS world, but yeah. I bet any Cleric of an Evil God would know the details.

I don't think this is what's being implied by Durkula automatically being promoted to "High Priest"--there are probably other clerics of Hel, but as a high-level cleric who is now a vampire he's probably the most powerful.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 10:50

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# ? May 26, 2024 07:51

Eifert Posting: Apr 1, 2007; Most of the time he catches it every time.; Grimey Drawer

Raenir Salazar posted:

I still don't buy this w.r.t Malack, he clearly thought of himself as well, 'himself', an extension of his previous self, he thought of his once living brothers as his brothers not his host's. That's as clear as day with any cursory read as written interpretation of the text.

Occam's razor: Malack thought he was himself because the vampire was talking, not the soul of Malack. Not like he's gonna advertise being a fantasy yeerk.

# ? Feb 19, 2014 12:39

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