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Cragislist Dallas: Looking for an airline to fly 60 EMB-175 aircraft (desperate) Hah.
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e.pilot posted:So even though I just got started on the pilot career path (as in got my PPL and just started college, nowhere close to making money yet lol) I am having second thoughts and really considering applying for ATC. Animal and xaarman already said it in very simple terms, but true. I know TONS of people that fly on the side outside of work, and I have met more than a few professional pilots that made the switch due to how the pilot working conditions are right now.
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Feb 14, 2014 17:53
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One of my ATC Academy classmates was there while on furlough from PSA. He got recalled after several weeks of class and he told them "no." He now has a much better income and job security with the FAA working in central TX and I think he's pretty happy. He still flies and instructs occasionally on the side to stay aloft.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:19
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With ATC, the hours aren't exactly nine to five, but you do get to sleep in your own bed every night. I hear wives like that.
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Feb 14, 2014 19:17
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I'm not sure if this is the correct thread, but I just got confirmation that I am allowed into the Norwegian/scandinavian study to become an air traffic controller but I'll, like everyone else, have to do several tests to see if I have the proper skills in order to become one. I have to admit, I am quite excited because it seems really, really cool and I didn't expect that I was ever going to be allowed to even try doing those tests at all. My question is, what is it I might expect from the tests? And what is required of me to become a "good" air traffic controller? What does a normal/hectic day as an air traffic controller look like?
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Feb 14, 2014 21:34
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I'm not sure if we have any Norwegian controllers actively posting, but I started an ATC specific thread here because there is a lot of hiring going on in the US right now and I thought it might be helpful. At least for the US entrance exam, it has quite a bit of math (time/distance problems, no calculator you're supposed to do them mentally), a section on reading gauges of various values, a visual analogy and word analogy segment, and a couple mini games. One is letter game, another you pick out specific sequences of numbers from a sea of random ones, and another that is sort of a mock ATC radar game where you guide fake airplanes to land. Very primitive overall, it's just to detect an aptitude for multi tasking and the like. Being a good air traffic controller is being able to stay calm, keep track of several visual and audio sources at the same time, and have a good knowledge of the rules and regulations governing your country's aviation system. In a nutshell, I think a great bartender could also make a great air traffic controller. Perhaps also someone who's really good at strategy or puzzle games. Eventually it all boils down to how you handle live traffic, and you'll never know for sure until you try.
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Feb 14, 2014 21:40
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The Ferret King posted:Perhaps also someone who's really good at strategy or puzzle games. I always told my gamer friends "think radar as StarCraft and tower as Devil May Cry". woops, wrong thread I suppose?
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Feb 14, 2014 22:04
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azflyboy posted:American has said they want to shut down Eagle/Envoy, but it's not clear they can do so without shooting themselves in the foot. Pretty much. That letter about helping pilots to find jobs elsewhere was effectively calling managements bluff. They threatened to shut eagle down as a fear tactic, even though it would be utterly insane of AAG to release the ~2600 pilots at eagle. When the AIP crashed and burned I think it really threw a wrench into their plans. The whole "We'll let you fly more/bigger airplanes if you give up pay." thing just isn't working anymore and they don't quite know how to deal with it.
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Feb 16, 2014 14:32
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What would happen if everyone on a fully loaded 747 decided to jump up and down at the same time?
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Feb 17, 2014 01:55
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the posted:What would happen if everyone on a fully loaded 747 decided to jump up and down at the same time? The flightcrew will be annoyed.
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Feb 17, 2014 02:12
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hailthefish posted:The flightcrew will be annoyed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG6p0z_W2Bo
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Feb 17, 2014 02:59
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Ethiopian Airlines hijacked en route to Rome. According to LiveATC listeners they landed on fumes in Geneva with one engine flamed out. Not a lot of details yet.
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Feb 17, 2014 07:44
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Someone on the jetcareers forums noticed the flight squawking 7500 on flightradar24.com and posted a thread about it last night. He got laughed at for 3 pages before the thread got closed. Then they reopened it once they realized it was a legitimate situation and they were idiots. Great job, jetcareers. The first 3 pages of that thread are full of stupid image macros.
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Feb 17, 2014 12:24
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Co-pilot went off the rocker - http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ethiopian-airlines-hijacker-threatened-to-crash-plane-passenger-says-1.2539920
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Feb 17, 2014 18:12
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Was being super mature in the Frasca today.  
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Feb 17, 2014 21:59
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e.pilot posted:Was being super mature in the Frasca today. Yup, this is glorious.
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Feb 17, 2014 22:05
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I don't know. The balls are ok but the shaft could really use some attention.
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Feb 17, 2014 22:09
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Agreed. The dong is not up to PTS.
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Feb 17, 2014 22:35
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So I was looking at the previous return flights from St. Kitts to Miami International. What's interesting is that it looks like they all have this slight speed increase at the same exact time, about an hour into the flight. What's happening there?
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Feb 17, 2014 22:48
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the posted:So I was looking at the previous return flights from St. Kitts to Miami International. What's interesting is that it looks like they all have this slight speed increase at the same exact time, about an hour into the flight. What's happening there? My guess would be either wind, or (more likely,) whatever FlightAware does when they process flight data is producing some kind of artifact.
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Feb 17, 2014 22:59
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The Ferret King posted:Agreed. The dong is not up to PTS. Agreed but I ran out of time in class to do it again. 
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Feb 17, 2014 23:09
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Feb 18, 2014 08:01
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e.pilot posted:Was being super mature in the Frasca today. While I can't take photo of it, it's a common practice in the E-2 if we're doing a hot swap (landing and switching crews for a new mission without shutting down the plane) for the off-going crew in the back to leave a message for the next guys, either using the scope software or drawn on the screen itself using a grease pencil. In the absence of anything more creative, this takes the form of a penis. One guy decided to take it a step further. The next crew was going to be controlling some fighters in a specific practice area. He drew a large dong-shaped zone on the scope way out to the west of the area. He then created a manual computer track, slaved the dong to it so that the dong would go wherever the track went, and set the track's course and speed to a carefully calculated value. Sure enough, right on schedule in the middle of the next mission, a giant penis appears on screen, flying serenely through the MOA.
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Feb 18, 2014 08:24
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Wingnut Ninja posted:While I can't take photo of it, it's a common practice in the E-2 if we're doing a hot swap (landing and switching crews for a new mission without shutting down the plane) for the off-going crew in the back to leave a message for the next guys, either using the scope software or drawn on the screen itself using a grease pencil. In the absence of anything more creative, this takes the form of a penis. I love the relative immaturity and goofiness that seems pervasive throughout the aviation community. It's almost as bad as the military lol.
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Feb 18, 2014 13:16
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Finally have CPDLC Capability, dear lord it's amazing.
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Feb 18, 2014 15:36
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Well I'm sure this was a fun flight: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25165449/turbulence-injures-flight-attendant-denver-billings-route quote:Joe Frank, 20, a passenger on board, told The Denver Post in an e-mail that everything was fine, then in an instant, the plane dropped violently, accompanied by a loud "bang."
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Feb 18, 2014 15:41
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SCOTLAND posted:Finally have CPDLC Capability, dear lord it's amazing. Do you ever need to use free text mode or do the preprogrammed responses and requests cover mostly everything? Is voice just used when the system is otherwise unavailable or for emergencies?
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Feb 18, 2014 17:06
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sellouts posted:Do you ever need to use free text mode or do the preprogrammed responses and requests cover mostly everything? Only used it on two trips so far, but as far as the free text portion we only used it to add turbulence reports when requesting FL changes. We revert back to HF voice if the system fails, or there is any ambiguity.
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Feb 18, 2014 17:19
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SCOTLAND posted:Only used it on two trips so far, but as far as the free text portion we only used it to add turbulence reports when requesting FL changes. Is it obvious to you when you're about to enter another oceanic FIR? How do you know the CPDLC login for the next FIR, is it included on your flight plan/clearance? I work the HF across the atlantic and caribbean and it amazes me how many cpdlc pilots seem clueless about either where they are or who they're supposed to be talking to.
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Feb 18, 2014 22:15
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the posted:Well I'm sure this was a fun flight: in another thread KodiakRS posted:
The Denver Post posted:The captain of Flight 1676 declared a medical emergency on the trip after hitting a rough patch of turbulence.....and landed without incident in Montana About those sensationalist comments: passenger posted:The sudden drop pulled everyone out of their seats, and I mean hard passenger dumbass posted:I didn't have my seat belt on, so I hit my head pretty hard. But what hurts is my lower back and hips
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Feb 19, 2014 04:17
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two_beer_bishes posted:Is it obvious to you when you're about to enter another oceanic FIR? How do you know the CPDLC login for the next FIR, is it included on your flight plan/clearance? Only way I know where the FIR boundaries and the CPDLC logons is by looking at the Jeppesen maps, LIDO (Lufthansa Flight Planning Software) doesn't seem to list it anywhere. On our airplane, as we approach the boundary it shows that the next FIR is, then within 20 miles or so we get a ding telling us it has logged us on. The CPDLC page on the FMS is however, not something we rest on, so I guess you need to be actively checking.
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Feb 19, 2014 04:57
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SCOTLAND posted:Only way I know where the FIR boundaries and the CPDLC logons is by looking at the Jeppesen maps, LIDO (Lufthansa Flight Planning Software) doesn't seem to list it anywhere. On our airplane, as we approach the boundary it shows that the next FIR is, then within 20 miles or so we get a ding telling us it has logged us on. The CPDLC page on the FMS is however, not something we rest on, so I guess you need to be actively checking. Ah, interesting. Thanks!
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Feb 19, 2014 06:07
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KodiakRS posted:
Disclaimer: not a pilot. Is it not possible to run into turbulence without any advance warning. Usually you hit a bit, and THEN the pilot tells you to put your belts on because they've just noticed the turbulence. Basically what I'm saying is, are you not being a little too quick to judge?
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Feb 19, 2014 10:39
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thehustler posted:Disclaimer: not a pilot. The seatbelt sign is only to let you know it's probably ok to go to the bathroom. They always ask that you keep your seatbelt fastened while at your seat regardless of the sign.
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Feb 19, 2014 10:49
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DNova posted:The seatbelt sign is only to let you know it's probably ok to go to the bathroom. They always ask that you keep your seatbelt fastened while at your seat regardless of the sign. Bollocks, you're right. I forgot that.
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Feb 19, 2014 13:31
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thehustler posted:Bollocks, you're right. I forgot that. Understandable given how much commercial airlines have raised the noise floor with their long-winded and far-too-numerous announcements, demonstrations, and videos. They really need to pare it down, in my opinion. Also: flight attendants (and pilots!), loving say what you want to say and then shut up for a while, please. Don't stand on the mic for excessive periods of time as you have a leisurely stream of consciousness. First of all, nobody cares about whatever you are saying 99.9% of the time, I promise. Second, you are forcing everyone's movies or tv shows to pause and making us realize the poo poo reality we are in. Stop it!
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Feb 19, 2014 13:56
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DNova posted:Also: flight attendants (and pilots!), loving say what you want to say and then shut up for a while, please. Don't stand on the mic for excessive periods of time as you have a leisurely stream of consciousness. First of all, nobody cares about whatever you are saying 99.9% of the time, I promise. Second, you are forcing everyone's movies or tv shows to pause and making us realize the poo poo reality we are in. Stop it! #firstworldproblems
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Feb 19, 2014 14:29
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xaarman posted:#firstworldproblems Pffff any complaints about flying in an airplane qualifies as firstworldproblems 
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Feb 19, 2014 16:30
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I was on a Delta MD-88 Flight in which the Flight attendants actually made the safety breifing... fun. They knew that everyone flying aboard had heard it a million times and cut the time from 6-7 minutes down to about... 2 with the finest auctioneer voice I'd ever heard. Afterwards they held the presentation for everyone who requested/didn't understand. A high spot on an otherwise lovely day of travel (Travelling to KJFK during a snowstorm).
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I've been on a Southwest flight where one of the stewards pulled out an acoustic guitar and SANG the safety briefing. After landing, he rapped the thanks-for-choosing-Southwest announcement. He was godamned amazing.
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