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dietcokefiend posted:So it looks like the co-pilot was an rear end in a top hat
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grover posted:That's an understatement. Couldn't he have just taken a loving train from Rome to Geneva and saved everyone (including himself) an enormous amount of grief? I believe he picked Switzerland because we probably don't have a treaty to hand over refugees/criminals to the Etheopian government. "It was not immediately clear why the co-pilot, whose name wasn't released, wanted asylum.", says the news article. If you know anything about the situation in Etheopia, you'll know that noone without special priviledges wants to live under such circumstances The news article talks of 20 years of prison time and as far as I know, Switzerland will not send him back until he has served this time. For this to make sense you need to know, that swiss prison is a luxury compared to the normal situation in a lot of places. You have rights and you can practice a job while serving your time. Running away in any other country would have probably gotten him sent back to Ethiopia right away and in to a dark place far away from any right or wrong. tl;dr: He wanted asylum in Switzerland and swiss prison<being a normal joe in Ethiopia... The sad truths. Source: I'm swiss Some redditor. Man, I hate the layout of that site.
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And, let's be realistic here, nobody wants to go through Rome customs
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What? I did it a couple of months ago and I'm doing it again in a week or so. Was easy enough for me.. perhaps you're a terrorist.
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You're off script, the followup line is supposed to be "And what's the deal with airline food? Am I right?"
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So apparently, the Swiss government didn't scramble fighters during the hijacking because the incident took place outside of business hours. No, really.
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/02/18/us-airways-plane-hits-truck-at-logan-airport/ oops EDIT: Also, documentary on the intertwining of Formula One car and aircraft design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ua47NufNGw Kilonum fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Feb 19, 2014 |
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ctishman posted:So apparently, the Swiss government didn't scramble fighters during the hijacking because the incident took place outside of business hours. Well it is a country of bankers.
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ctishman posted:So apparently, the Swiss government didn't scramble fighters during the hijacking because the incident took place outside of business hours. Wow. If I were swiss I'd be rather pissed off that us Frenchies had to come protect them. Imagine if it was a suicide flight that decided to crash in the middle of a city/government building? Those office hours are laughable. Want to invade Switzerland? Just do it on the weekend when they're all away.
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Barnsy posted:Wow. If I were swiss I'd be rather pissed off that us Frenchies had to come protect them. Imagine if it was a suicide flight that decided to crash in the middle of a city/government building? Those office hours are laughable. Want to invade Switzerland? Just do it on the weekend when they're all away. It said in the article that 53% of the population doesn't want the air force to expand operations, sounds like they've already made their decision.
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Sorry but if my plane is hijacked I may do a little more than frantically try to send texts. it sounds kind of like whoever it was depressurized it, maybe to keep everyone by their masks? but then it also sounds like he did a rapid descent too. I don't know. I'm armchair quarterbacking so ignore me.
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Barnsy posted:Wow. If I were swiss I'd be rather pissed off that us Frenchies had to come protect them. Imagine if it was a suicide flight that decided to crash in the middle of a city/government building? Those office hours are laughable. Want to invade Switzerland? Just do it on the weekend when they're all away. Italy can reunite the Italian speaking peoples!
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Bob A Feet posted:Sorry but if my plane is hijacked I may do a little more than frantically try to send texts. Such as?
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FrozenVent posted:Such as? Post in this thread.
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FrozenVent posted:Such as? Straight up Jack Bauer those fucks.
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FrozenVent posted:Such as? Masturbate ala Clerks. Wouldn't you?
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FrozenVent posted:Such as? get on twitter, come on dude
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Nebakenezzer posted:Italy can reunite the Italian speaking peoples! Gonna need time to fabricate a claim on Switzerland; can't afford the stability loss if we declare without a CB. (oh god I've played way too much Europa Universalis 4)
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Bob A Feet posted:Sorry but if my plane is hijacked I may do a little more than frantically try to send texts. Although I am definitely in the "gently caress you, if you're crashing this plane you're killing me first" mentality, I don't think you would have an opportunity. At a cabin altitude of 30,000 feet you have about 90 seconds of useful consciousness. Not a lot of time to force your way into the cockpit and beat on a homeboy.
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A Melted Tarp posted:Although I am definitely in the "gently caress you, if you're crashing this plane you're killing me first" mentality, I don't think you would have an opportunity. Don't the oxygen masks only work for about 12 minutes?
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Gibfender posted:Don't the oxygen masks only work for about 12 minutes? Good point. Wait until below 10,000 MSL to leave your seat and go primal on your hijacker. I believe the pilots have the ability to drop masks manually, not just via pressure trigger. So perhaps he was giving the impression that the cabin was depressurized to keep everyone compliant.
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If you can't hold your breath long enough to beat the poo poo out of a terrorist, you obviously don't love freedom enough to deserve to live.
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A Melted Tarp posted:I believe the pilots have the ability to drop masks manually, not just via pressure trigger. So perhaps he was giving the impression that the cabin was depressurized to keep everyone compliant.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Straight up Jack Bauer those fucks. How does Jack Bauer chew his way through a cabin bulkhead?
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Blistex posted:How does Jack Bauer chew his way through a cabin bulkhead? One bite at a time.
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Blistex posted:How does Jack Bauer chew his way through a cabin bulkhead? The only reason the captain couldn't get through the door is because he was some starving Ethernopian. I'm a big strong American and I'd roundhouse kick that door down on the first try.  
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Crosspost from the mil picture & youtube thread. Pretty cool shots of planes coming in to Nellis from Red Flag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4X-B8WImfQ The Aviationist posted:A Royal Australian Air Force E-7A Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft assigned to RAAF Williamtown. From: http://theaviationist.com/2014/02/19/video-recoveries-rf-14-1/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Way cool. Looked pretty windy. That C130 had quite the bounce.
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onezero posted:Crosspost from the mil picture & youtube thread. Why hasn't the USAF re-engined all the E-3's? Seems like they would be a more valuable asset than KC-135's, and all of the 135's I've seen, all the way down to the ANG units, have been re-engined to something more like that Royal AF E-3 at the end of the video.
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The Locator posted:Why hasn't the USAF re-engined all the E-3's? Seems like they would be a more valuable asset than KC-135's, and all of the 135's I've seen, all the way down to the ANG units, have been re-engined to something more like that Royal AF E-3 at the end of the video. They're talking about it at least. The F-35's cost overruns have to come from somewhere!
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fknlo posted:The only reason the captain couldn't get through the door is because he was some starving Ethernopian. I'm a big strong American and I'd roundhouse kick that door down on the first try. I know you're kidding, but have you ever seen cockpit doors and their locking mechanisms? Fairly heavy duty; a 737 door was hard to carry with two people. I would be unsurprised to find it's easier to go through the bulkhead either side than the door.
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The Locator posted:Why hasn't the USAF re-engined all the E-3's? Seems like they would be a more valuable asset than KC-135's, and all of the 135's I've seen, all the way down to the ANG units, have been re-engined to something more like that Royal AF E-3 at the end of the video. Because they have thousands of TF-33 cores available. It's straight up not going to happen, ever. Not all the 135s were reengined, the rest were just retired...but all those engines are still around. Also, E-3s aren't squadron-assigned like fighters. It's one big pool that 4 AD and 1 reserve squadron fly, with the exceptions of jets deployed or temporarily assigned to PACAF.
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Brovine posted:I know you're kidding, but have you ever seen cockpit doors and their locking mechanisms? Fairly heavy duty; a 737 door was hard to carry with two people. I would be unsurprised to find it's easier to go through the bulkhead either side than the door. It'd be easier just to kick in the wall of Lav A and come through the coat closet, probably.
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FullMetalJacket posted:This thread is now about finding faces in airplanes 
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Godholio posted:Because they have thousands of TF-33 cores available. It's straight up not going to happen, ever. Not all the 135s were reengined, the rest were just retired...but all those engines are still around. Somewhat related: http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Boeing-E-3D-Sentry/2396982/L/&sid=9c7785122d669b80050bba4bcdcf1d10
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Somewhat related: Caution wake turbulence. Man, what a loving fantastic series of photos... Thanks for ruining(improving) the rest of my evening
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ctishman posted:So apparently, the Swiss government didn't scramble fighters during the hijacking because the incident took place outside of business hours. I may be thinking of something else, but wasn't there discussion a few dozen pages or so ago about how the Swiss have a bunch of aging F/A-18 airframes that are so close to retirement that their air force can only fly them once every other week or so? Could this have anything to do with "sorry, can't scramble because it's not business hours?"
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You would think the Swiss would be all over the F-35, given their longstanding obsession with multirole.
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Geoj posted:I may be thinking of something else, but wasn't there discussion a few dozen pages or so ago about how the Swiss have a bunch of aging F/A-18 airframes that are so close to retirement that their air force can only fly them once every other week or so? Could this have anything to do with "sorry, can't scramble because it's not business hours?" they use the D models and "limited personnel" restrict flight operations. "Dec 27/10: Finland/ Switzerland. A $66.2 million firm-fixed-price delivery order under the basic ordering agreement for weapon replaceable assemblies and other complex parts used in retrofitting F/A-18C/D aircraft for the governments of Finland (62/ $44.6M/ 67%), and Switzerland (33/ $21.6M/ 33%). Work will be performed in Cedar Rapids, IA (44.8%); St. Louis, MO (26.8%); Fort Worth, TX (14.9%); Oakland, NJ (6.4%); Grand Rapids, MI (3.3%); Butler, NJ (1.3%); Sylmar, CA (1%); Killdeer, ND (0.5%); Mesa, AZ (0.4%); El Segundo, CA (0.3%); Wallingford, CT (0.2%); and Horsham, PA (0.1%), and is expected to be complete in April 2015. US Naval Air Systems Command in Patuxent River, MD manages the contract on behalf of these Foreign Military Sale clients (N00019-11-G-0001)." source: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/f18-hornets-keeping-em-flying-02816/ FullMetalJacket fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Feb 20, 2014 |
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Snowdens Secret posted:You would think the Swiss would be all over the F-35, given their longstanding obsession with multirole. They also have a longstanding obsession with hoarding money, soooo...
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