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Brovine posted:The engineering work recently along the Lea Valley lines, which is (as far as I know) total track renewal moving northwards, has got me wondering. Any chance someone in the know can do an effortpost on track laying/renewal processes and so forth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MKcTbYDP7w
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I was on the train home from work last night, fairly late (I believe it was the 9:10 from Farringdon to Kentish Town), and got on the front carriage. Sat down, then looked around. There were two other people in the carriage with me, one guy with his face covered - hood, bandana across his face - who looked a bit like a protestor and was acting kinda shifty, and another normal looking guy. The face-covered guy then spent the next two stops scratching his signs into the windows, and graffing all the bits of the train that weren't window. The normal guy got off at St Pancras. Train terminated at Kentish Town, where I got off and told the lady at the station exactly what had happened, who walked off to 'let the boys know'. I felt guilty for not saying anything on the train, but I was honestly pretty scared as well as tired, and didn't like the idea of aggravating someone with no one else to witness it. Is there any way I can find out what happened as a result? I continued going home after alerting the Customer Service lady, so didn't see any fallout. tl;dr: I felt loving awkward for 10 mins while a guy scratched and graffed up the inside of a train in front of me. Told the authorities, then left.
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Speaking of Worst Capital Connect, christ this morning was a clusterfuck of cancellations, making it up as they go along and no information to passengers. My personal highlight was ending up at the station I started out at, having been travelling for an hour and then being told to go back and find another way. Good thing the railways are efficiently run by titans of industry to make sure I was only an hour and 20 minutes late to a job interview, I can't fathom how late I'd have been if it was run by the state like the tube! Also love FCC's requirement to include a picture of your ticket for their refund scheme, I hope they enjoy my photo of an oyster card.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Also love FCC's requirement to include a picture of your ticket for their refund scheme, I hope they enjoy my photo of an oyster card. Isn't this a standard thing? I've had to do it when getting refunds from Virgin and East Coast. And East Coast never gave me my refund, the shits.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Speaking of Worst Capital Connect, christ this morning was a clusterfuck of cancellations, making it up as they go along and no information to passengers. My personal highlight was ending up at the station I started out at, having been travelling for an hour and then being told to go back and find another way. Good thing the railways are efficiently run by titans of industry to make sure I was only an hour and 20 minutes late to a job interview, I can't fathom how late I'd have been if it was run by the state like the tube! Problem north of St. Pancras, entire Wimbledon Loop goes down. Maybe we should cut the loop off at Blackfriars to allow for a better, more frequent, more reliable service? Oh wait...
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Metrication posted:Problem north of St. Pancras, entire Wimbledon Loop goes down. Maybe we should cut the loop off at Blackfriars to allow for a better, more frequent, more reliable service? Oh wait... It's the southern London counterpart to Camden Town. It'd be much less of an operational headache the Wimbledon loop to be cut off and the Northern Line split into two (especially given the extension to Battersea), but it'll never happen because the residents are too lazy to walk between platforms.
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Camden Town as it stands is completely unequipped to handle the amount of passengers that would have to change there if they split the Northern line in two. What residents are opposed to is the massive amount of redevelopment that would be required on the surface to accomodate the necessary changes. Loads of info at http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/we-need-to-talk-about-camden/
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nozz posted:Camden Town as it stands is completely unequipped to handle the amount of passengers that would have to change there if they split the Northern line in two. What residents are opposed to is the massive amount of redevelopment that would be required on the surface to accomodate the necessary changes. He's talking about loop trains terminating at Blackfriars making people on it very upset, despite the obvious advantages it presents 
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TinTower posted:It's the southern London counterpart to Camden Town. It'd be much less of an operational headache the Wimbledon loop to be cut off and the Northern Line split into two (especially given the extension to Battersea), but it'll never happen because the residents are too lazy to walk between platforms. Suits me fine because at the moment I have to walk between platforms and if Wimbledon shut up and dealt with it like it was supposed to when they rebuilt the entire track alignment and station that way then it'd be grand.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Also love FCC's requirement to include a picture of your ticket for their refund scheme, I hope they enjoy my photo of an oyster card. This reminds me of the old favourite, "[normal route] is down, tickets will be accepted on [convoluted other route]". Yes, my oyster card will be accepted. It'll just be charged a lot more. 
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tentish klown posted:I was on the train home from work last night, fairly late (I believe it was the 9:10 from Farringdon to Kentish Town), and got on the front carriage. Sat down, then looked around. There were two other people in the carriage with me, one guy with his face covered - hood, bandana across his face - who looked a bit like a protestor and was acting kinda shifty, and another normal looking guy. The face-covered guy then spent the next two stops scratching his signs into the windows, and graffing all the bits of the train that weren't window. The normal guy got off at St Pancras. Train terminated at Kentish Town, where I got off and told the lady at the station exactly what had happened, who walked off to 'let the boys know'. In future you can text 61016 which is the British Transport Police. You can also email 61016@btp.pnn.police.uk. They're usually pretty snappy in their response, if you let them know quick enough they quite often meet trains in and apprehend the person They might benefit from a statement from you seeing as you've seen the guy doing it, if you're willing call 0800 40 50 40 which is the non-emergency number for their control room. http://www.btp.police.uk/we_get_the_message/how_to_use_the_text_number.aspx Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:http://news.stv.tv/tayside/259407-andrew-davidson-tried-to-have-sex-with-drinks-trolley-on-board-train/ http://www.lep.co.uk/news/help-us-catch-train-pervert-1-6300100 quote:Police hunting a man who exposed himself to two women on a train in Chorley have released a CCTV image. Why do trains attract these kinds of people Hezzy fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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Hezzy posted:In future you can text 61016 which is the British Transport Police. You can also email 61016@btp.pnn.police.uk. They're usually pretty snappy in their response, if you let them know quick enough they quite often meet trains in and apprehend the person That's awesome to know. Unfortunately I've lost my phone so wouldn't have been able to do that, on the other hand if it happens again I'll be straight on it.
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TinTower posted:It's the southern London counterpart to Camden Town. It'd be much less of an operational headache the Wimbledon loop to be cut off and the Northern Line split into two (especially given the extension to Battersea), but it'll never happen because the residents are too lazy to walk between platforms.
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So is this a good place to talk about the proposals to remove ticket offices from all the London tube stations while cutting about 1,000 staff and the impending strikes in opposition? The dates I've seen for the strikes are: About 21:30 on Tuesday 4 February until the morning of Friday 7 February About 21:30 on Tuesday 11 February until the morning of Friday 14 February That's pretty serious -- I don't think I've ever heard of a tube strike lasting longer than a day. Then again, the idea of basically unstaffed tube stations in a city like London seems pretty dumb.
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Unstaffed stations will never happen for safety reasons. And that isn't the proposal. The major part of the proposal is closing ticket offices and instead providing better portable equipment so that staff out in the main areas of a station can do everything they currently do in the ticket office. As only three percent of journeys involve buying a ticket from a ticket office, the theory is that the same person can be more useful out in the station ticket hall rather than locked away behind a window. It does involve a staff reduction, and a very widespared re-grading of existing staff as I understand it. Some stations will actually gain staff, though, and the theory is that it'll make better use of staff rather than purely cutting them. We'll see how well that works. London Reconnections did an article going into a bit of detail, see here: http://www.londonreconnections.com/2013/big-changes-gonna-come-part-2-new-approach-ticket-sales/ Note that nothing I said above should be taken to be against the strikers. Brovine fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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So CERN is planning on building a 100km collider in the (far) future as an upgrade to the LHC. What does this have to do with trainchat? Well, it means they need a tunnel under Geneva of this circumference, and their kick-off meeting is this week. They called in the engineers working on the Gotthard base tunnel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotthard_Base_Tunnel which is the world's longest railway tunnel at 57km. The following slides were presented, which may be of interest: http://indico.cern.ch/event/282344/session/6/contribution/23/material/slides/1.pdf The logistics of this thing are pretty incredible.
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It was at a CERN planning meeting that I learned that 1000 petabytes is a yottabyte. The scales they work at are pretty amazing.
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Check out page 48. I love the idea of just lowering a lorry into a shaft and unloading it there instead of faffing about with several loadings/unloadings to get poo poo where it needs to be.
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StarkingBarfish posted:So CERN is planning on building a 100km collider in the (far) future as an upgrade to the LHC. What does this have to do with trainchat? Well, it means they need a tunnel under Geneva of this circumference, and their kick-off meeting is this week. They called in the engineers working on the Gotthard base tunnel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotthard_Base_Tunnel which is the world's longest railway tunnel at 57km. The following slides were presented, which may be of interest: What I love about that entire scheme is that it was also an example of direct democracy at work with three votes for investing now to head off a looming crisis. I would be more happy about the general concept if Switzerland didn't just vote 50.03% to 49.97% for xenophobia driven immigration curbs. At least my bit voted the right way...
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Munin posted:What I love about that entire scheme is that it was also an example of direct democracy at work with three votes for investing now to head off a looming crisis. Yeah. Switzerland is a great example of why truly direct democracy can be aweseome at many things, but still has its pitfalls.
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StarkingBarfish posted:Yeah. Switzerland is a great example of why truly direct democracy can be aweseome at many things, but still has its pitfalls. It's also an illustration of the principle that otherwise thoroughly lovely and well-principled folk can reveal themselves as massive loving racists when you least expect it 
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Jonnty posted:It's also an illustration of the principle that otherwise thoroughly lovely and well-principled can reveal themselves as massive loving racists when you least expect it Oh, I dunno- i expect them to be racist in the more isolated parts of switzerland. Sadly they lived up to that expectation. Still, awesome trains. Got tickets to go from Geneva -> Milan for 28 swiss, on a not poo poo train with decent enough coffee. Beat that, east coast mainline!
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StarkingBarfish posted:So CERN is planning on building a 100km collider in the (far) future as an upgrade to the LHC. Thanks for this! My favourite graph is the one on page 20, which shows that although construction costs have been going up, the risk of a higher total cost has been decreasing. I don't know why they don't point this out with the HS2 cost estimates: everyone shits the bed when the cost rises from a projected £40Bn to £45Bn, but actually the numbers are probably going from £40Bn +/- 40% to £45Bn +/- 20%
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Endjinneer posted:Thanks for this! My favourite graph is the one on page 20, which shows that although construction costs have been going up, the risk of a higher total cost has been decreasing. Isn't a good deal of the £45bn contingency anyway?
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http://campaign.actionforrail.org/page/speakout/stop-the-fourth-railway-package Is anyone able to confirm whether compulsory vertical separation is happening or not? I've read in many places that it was killed after some of European states protested very strongly against it.
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So, HS2 is going to be poo poo-canned "temporarily" so we can buy more dredgers for Somerset. http://www.nce.co.uk/opinion/the-choice-between-resilient-infrastructure-and-hs2/8659100.article?blocktitle=Comment&contentID=647 NCE posted:The choice between resilient infrastructure and HS2
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Endjinneer posted:So, HS2 is going to be poo poo-canned "temporarily" so we can buy more dredgers for Somerset. Isn't this a 'what if' kind of thing? That's the way it reads anyway.
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Bozza posted:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/21/how-much-cost-scare-british-taxpayers-pay-hs2 Haha, he's basically complaining about Camden while trying to say he's not a NIMBY. Incidentally: quote:(In fact Euston does not even get into the top 10 of most crowded services: Paddington and Waterloo are far worse.) Paddington has Crossrail and Waterloo has the old International platforms. Euston has neither. And to be honest, the South can gently caress off about overcrowding when the 1713 Leeds to Harrogate is a 2-car Pacer.
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Bozza posted:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/21/how-much-cost-scare-british-taxpayers-pay-hs2 that was painful to read anyway, this is pretty interesting about the cancellation of HS2-HS1 link up. but remember the paper is *very* anti HS2 http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2014/feb/exclusive-hs2-bosses-set-abandon-camden-town-link-stage-high-speed-rail-project gently caress the northeners. their ability to visit europe is less important than nimbys in camden
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Cerv posted:that was painful to read I'm not hugely against HS2 - it's important to build infrastructure and we can't predict how behavioural patterns will change in the future, so it's best to keep ahead of the game. However, the first stage of this massive project will... reduce travel time to/from Birmingham from 1h 20m to what, 40 mins? Granted, it's the first step in a much bigger project (and the main benefits will be felt by those travelling from Scotland by train) but it still seems like a huge todo about very little. Also, the northeners can fly to Europe. God knows, at the rate that train fares are going up, by the time HS2 is complete it'll be both faster AND cheaper to fly from Newcastle/Manchester/Leeds than it will be to get the train.
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TinTower posted:Paddington has Crossrail and Waterloo has the old International platforms. Euston has neither. This is the paragraph that caused the most chuckles - massively disingenuous conflating passenger overcrowding on certain services on GWML with the total lack of SERVICE capacity on the WCML. It totally ignores freight capacity which is the biggest issue with the WCML.
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tentish klown posted:Also, the northeners can fly to Europe. God knows, at the rate that train fares are going up, by the time HS2 is complete it'll be both faster AND cheaper to fly from Newcastle/Manchester/Leeds than it will be to get the train. I'm fairly sure door to door from York to a central Paris hotel is already faster.
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tentish klown posted:I'm not hugely against HS2 - it's important to build infrastructure and we can't predict how behavioural patterns will change in the future, so it's best to keep ahead of the game. However, the first stage of this massive project will... reduce travel time to/from Birmingham from 1h 20m to what, 40 mins? Granted, it's the first step in a much bigger project (and the main benefits will be felt by those travelling from Scotland by train) but it still seems like a huge todo about very little. you admit yourself that the birmingham is only the first stage, and immediately use that as a critiscm. you know it's a specious argument but still use it. northeners getting the train rather than flying to europe will be far better envitonmentally. so with any luck it'll not be cheaper. and you shouldn't underestimate just how convenient it is to travel city to city instead of having to go out of town to the airport at both ends. personally don't think i'd ever take a plane over eurostar. just wish you didn't have to make a connection for amsterdam.
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^^^^ edit - also see Cervs last bit about city to city travel, one of rails biggest selling points ^^^^tentish klown posted:I'm not hugely against HS2 - it's important to build infrastructure and we can't predict how behavioural patterns will change in the future, so it's best to keep ahead of the game. However, the first stage of this massive project will... I swear they should have called this thing the "West Coast Main Line By-Pass" rather than HS2, as that basically sums up how it works for a 'non-railway' person to understand.
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Bozza posted:^^^^ edit - also see Cervs last bit about city to city travel, one of rails biggest selling points ^^^^ Well poo poo, if anyone had actually publicised that then I wouldn't have had these misconceptions for so long.
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