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greatn posted:You certainly understand how it would read as one by default, though, right? No, because the crime report mentions the duchess. If he were a rapist, the name of the crime would be, like, anything else???
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Feb 21, 2014 18:42
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Lager posted:Why is it annoying that people might not go, "Ha ha ha! Rape joke! Wonderful!" It was a pretty dumb joke to put in the trailer. It doesn't stop me from being hilariously excited for the movie, but I can definitely understand people being put off by the joke even though it was just a piece of text that had zero attention drawn to it. Whizbang posted:It's not a rape joke, go back to tumblr. And here we GO
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Pyronic posted:Apparently some people were getting upset about Peter Quill being listed as having comitted a sex crime in his rap sheet in the trailer, the director, James Gunn responded on facebook: That's our Starlord ...cue laugh track...
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Feb 21, 2014 18:45
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PupsOfWar posted:my guess was that Gramosians are some kind of odd non-anthropoid, possibly-inanimate critters and Quill accidentally manhandled one somehow, mistaking it for a rock or something. Thus "manipulation" being a literal "picked up and moved". That's the way I took it. Hell I googled Gramosian thinking they were some kind of android race. They're just some throw away space race that doesn't get much play in the MU according to Wiki. --------------------------- Moving from Rape to Racism, I'm willing to bet we'll get a scene in FF where Reed is eyeballing Sue from a distance, and Johnny walks up to him with a "Hey man, why are you staring at my sister?" I'm not staring at your sister! I'm checking out that hot white chick!" "Yeah. That's my sister." *Wah-Wah* The best case scenario would be if no one mentions it at all. What will happen instead is the only person who brings it up will be Doom, so he's not only a mass murdering fuckhead with delusions of grandeur, but he's also racist.
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Feb 21, 2014 19:09
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Make it like Chicken Boo where Doom keeps trying to question it but everyone sees no issue it at all. "Doom is not racist, but..."
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Feb 21, 2014 19:23
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Illegal manipulation sounds more like kinky poo poo like putting her legs over her head, folding her into a pretzel and there being obscenity laws. If this was the 80s people would probably go "Haw! He's a kinky suave devil who can get into the pants of royalty!" but today on the internet I guess some troll went off on it being rape or something and retardation took hold.
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Feb 21, 2014 19:28
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Gatts posted:Illegal manipulation sounds more like kinky poo poo like putting her legs over her head, folding her into a pretzel and there being obscenity laws. If this was the 80s people would probably go "Haw! He's a kinky suave devil who can get into the pants of royalty!" but today on the internet I guess some troll went off on it being rape or something and retardation took hold. It is stupid but has nothing on the FF casting news.
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Feb 21, 2014 19:30
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Gatts posted:Illegal manipulation sounds more like kinky poo poo like putting her legs over her head, folding her into a pretzel and there being obscenity laws. If this was the 80s people would probably go "Haw! He's a kinky suave devil who can get into the pants of royalty!" but today on the internet I guess some troll went off on it being rape or something and retardation took hold. Illegal manipulation is leaving a door with a "Keep door closed" sign open.
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Feb 21, 2014 19:34
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Lager posted:Why is it annoying that people might not go, "Ha ha ha! Rape joke! Wonderful!" It was a pretty dumb joke to put in the trailer. Because in the trailer for a fun, comedic, sci-fi adventure movie produced by Disney, common sense would dictate that a joke about sex is probably not a god drat rape joke. Especially with a charming and likable, Han Solo-ish character being the focus of the joke. That said, the less companies cater to people who react without using their brains the better. EDIT: In non-'not-rapey' joke discussion, the effects test closeups of Rocket are amazing. Special effects just keep getting better and better. DFu4ever fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Feb 21, 2014 |
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I'm fine with Gunn's explanation and I don't think that he intended it to be anything particularly creepy, but it can read that way without context and I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that anyone reacting to the words "sex crime" is some kind of oversensitive tumblr nut. Especially with Gunn has been shown to have some poor taste in the past when it comes to jokes on gender, sexual orientation, etc. My earlier post was mostly reacting to DFu4ever's word choice in calling it annoying that people were questioning it. In all honesty, it's not a smart joke to put in the trailer. If it's something we see in the movie and then it gets a subtle callback in that scene, that's totally different than just having it up there with no context whatsoever as part of the introduction to the film for people who have no previous interest, investment or knowledge of these characters. And yet, as stated, I'm still more excited for this movie than any other superhero films in the works right now so it's obviously not a deal breaker as it stands, or even something I would've thought was worth talking about any further beyond Gunn's explanation had it not been for the comments I was responding to.
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Lager posted:I'm fine with Gunn's explanation and I don't think that he intended it to be anything particularly creepy, but it can read that way without context and I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that anyone reacting to the words "sex crime" is some kind of oversensitive tumblr nut. Especially with Gunn has been shown to have some poor taste in the past when it comes to jokes on gender, sexual orientation, etc. My earlier post was mostly reacting to DFu4ever's word choice in calling it annoying that people were questioning it. In all honesty, it's not a smart joke to put in the trailer. If it's something we see in the movie and then it gets a subtle callback in that scene, that's totally different than just having it up there with no context whatsoever as part of the introduction to the film for people who have no previous interest, investment or knowledge of these characters. That scene might have more context in the movie, but its perfect for introducing the characters. Its putting names to faces.
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Feb 21, 2014 20:06
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bobkatt013 posted:That scene might have more context in the movie, but its perfect for introducing the characters. Its putting names to faces. The scene itself is great for the trailer, yes, like I said I'm just talking about that text joke. Which would've been really easy to not have show up in the trailer.
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Feb 21, 2014 20:10
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Lager posted:The scene itself is great for the trailer, yes, like I said I'm just talking about that text joke. Which would've been really easy to not have show up in the trailer. Except that "people getting upset on Tumblr" is not a consequence for Marvel or the property? In fact, since there's a benign explanation, it likely just got more people talking about the film?
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Feb 21, 2014 20:16
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Also its a little text joke that you have to look for. It is not like its something that was right there.
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Feb 21, 2014 20:17
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I find it kinda weird some people jumped to sexual assault when a rougeish guy sexing royalty and getting in trouble for it is such an old and established trope.
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Feb 21, 2014 20:18
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SirDan3k posted:I find it kinda weird some people jumped to sexual assault when a rougeish guy sexing royalty and getting in trouble for it is such an old and established trope. So Space Stabler will not be investigating?
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Feb 21, 2014 20:21
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theflyingorc posted:Except that "people getting upset on Tumblr" is not a consequence for Marvel or the property? In fact, since there's a benign explanation, it likely just got more people talking about the film? I think you're overestimating how outraged I am about the whole thing - the answer to which is very little. I'm more annoyed at DFu4ever's assertion that anyone who could possibly be offended is annoying and such, because I'm just generally tired of that sort of thing. So yeah, it's not a huge obvious joke, it's not a huge deal, but it is something that I can see people being uncomfortable with and the studio probably should've thought about not putting it in the trailer. Gunn's explanation is fine, and I'm not personally all that concerned with anything but the previous comments in the thread which irritated me. SirDan3k posted:I find it kinda weird some people jumped to sexual assault when a rougeish guy sexing royalty and getting in trouble for it is such an old and established trope. I would imagine it's mostly because of the actual wording of "sex crime." I think it's pretty easy to imagine people being uncomfortable with that term being applied to the hero of the film to whom they have no previous knowledge or attachment.
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SirDan3k posted:I find it kinda weird some people jumped to sexual assault when a rougeish guy sexing royalty and getting in trouble for it is such an old and established trope. No, you don't understand, when Leia told hand she loved him and he said I know he was being a cheuvanist pig and represented the patricharchatnhadhnah
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Feb 21, 2014 20:24
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bobkatt013 posted:So Space Stabler will not be investigating? I am positive whoever is investigating has a handlebar mustache with mutton chops and employs the phrase "Seize him!" alot.
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SirDan3k posted:I am positive whoever is investigating has a handlebar mustache with mutton chops and employs the phrase "Seize him!" alot. But John C. Reilly is already a member of the Nova Corps?
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Feb 21, 2014 20:26
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I just like seeing "go back to tumblr" as a sick burn like SA is the bastion of all that is wise and measured on the internet and goons never overreact to stupid poo poo
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Feb 21, 2014 20:31
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Electromax posted:I just like seeing "go back to tumblr" as a sick burn like SA is the bastion of all that is wise and measured on the internet and goons never overreact to stupid poo poo Right. Same.
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Electromax posted:I just like seeing "go back to tumblr" as a sick burn like SA is the bastion of all that is wise and measured on the internet and goons never overreact to stupid poo poo I'm so internet sheltered (or so drat busy that I don't really venture outside of the familiar when I actually get the time to sit down for some internetting) that I don't even know what Tumblr is outside of seeing it referenced on SA, but I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that was kind of funny.
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Electromax posted:I just like seeing "go back to tumblr" as a sick burn like SA is the bastion of all that is wise and measured on the internet and goons never overreact to stupid poo poo It's the type of dumb thing that is being reacted to. Nobody gets told to go back to tumblr because they're upset that Thor wasn't the alter ego of Donald Blake, it's basically reserved for Social Justice Warriors.
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Feb 21, 2014 20:42
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Black Widow is finally, finally getting a solo film. This announcement sure would have been cool if it hadn't come several years after it should have, directly after the announcement of a Wonder Woman film.
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Yeah go back to Tumblr. So what if there's a dumb joke in the trailer that means Starlord is a sex criminal. So what if James Gunn used to make yearly lists of which superhero he wanted to gently caress in graphic detail (except ew the gays) until he got a Marvel film and had to remove them and apologise. So what. HorseRenoir posted:Black Widow is finally, finally getting a solo film. Unfortunately this is the same article going around as a few weeks back and is basically Marvel is saying they are making a Black Widow film but with no cast and no date and them booked up until at least 2017 it ain't happening.
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Waterhaul posted:So what if James Gunn used to make yearly lists of which superhero he wanted to gently caress in graphic detail (except ew the gays) until he got a Marvel film and had to remove them and apologise. So what. God drat why did you have to remind me of that 
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fatherboxx posted:God drat why did you have to remind me of that Because some people didn't even know about it in the first place. Like me. Therefore, 
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Electromax posted:I just like seeing "go back to tumblr" as a sick burn like SA is the bastion of all that is wise and measured on the internet and goons never overreact to stupid poo poo So does this mean when people act like raging "ironic" bigots we can tell them to "go back to Reddit"? 
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Also, Super, while I love that movie, has multiple really gross-out deviant sex jokes in it, plus a "funny" rape scene done by Ellen Page no less. I don't really care about this specific case, but I suppose we should be happy if the duchess joke is the worst thing we get from a dude who used to work for loving Troma.
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I find it funny some people are so eager to jump to the defense of the movie that they over react to any question about it at all. A few people notice a text pop up saying the main character of the film is a sex criminal and say "wtf?" They are obviously SJW(OH NO, not social justice!) and it couldn't have possibly been maybe not the best idea to throw something like that in there with no context!
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Local news says the Fantastic Four movie is going to be filming in studios about two blocks down the road from me. I'll keep you guys posted if I run into Jordan or Mara at the local Subway.
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greatn posted:I find it funny some people are so eager to jump to the defense of the movie that they over react to any question about it at all. I just thought it meant Starlord likes to hang out with Fraction and Zdarsky. 
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fatherboxx posted:God drat why did you have to remind me of that To be honest I'm surprised how quickly people forgot about it but then again a CGI raccoon with a gun. Hakkesshu posted:Also, Super, while I love that movie, has multiple really gross-out deviant sex jokes in it, plus a "funny" rape scene done by Ellen Page no less. Which to be honest is the point. Gunn is coming from a very specific background. I liked Super and I love Troma films and their humor but it's not for everybody and stuff like that may either upset or just not be for different people. It doesn't mean people are crazy SJW that hate everything or that questioning or discussing things is crazy.
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Waterhaul posted:Yeah go back to Tumblr. 2017 is 3 years away champ. That's about how long it takes to staff and write a movie. It makes perfect sense to announce working on one now.
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Waterhaul posted:Yeah go back to Tumblr. I don't think a straight guy not having graphic sex dreams about other men is that crazy.
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Aphrodite posted:I don't think a straight guy not having graphic sex dreams about other men is that crazy. James Gunn posted:My girlfriend voted for this Cajun fruit. I think she’s looking to have a devil’s three way with the two of us. The idea of my balls slapping against Gambit’s makes me sick to my stomach, but I can’t deny the fellow’s pure HEAT.
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Dexo posted:2017 is 3 years away champ. That's about how long it takes to staff and write a movie. It makes perfect sense to announce working on one now. My point was they've announced working on a Black Widow film since Cap 1 now and nothing has happened so I wouldn't think anything about it until a director or that is announced. Aphrodite posted:I don't think a straight guy not having graphic sex dreams about other men is that crazy. It was more the comments. He's deleted them all but here's the example piece from a quick google search. quote:“for those men that love rude bitches, [emma frost] the white queen is the way”
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