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Zohar posted:What, what the hell? I was mocking it for the length, turns out I should have buckled down and read the drat thing because goddamn A country with sufficient power at a certain point can block all transit through a strait. The Denmark example is a bit of hyperbole to the extent that the Kiel Canal exists so as long as the USSR has transit through Germany Denmark can't cut them off entirely. (Denmark plus Germany, though...)
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Kavak posted:Who is in from the contest? Any of us? Anyone at all? Gorgo, and two others who participated (that I know of). Looks to be the third round of the contest for the other two. I'm too lazy to look up who exactly but they posted about it here. As far as entries that get in go, I can do some minor clarifying. Officially "most get in", but there's always those few that don't (the previously linked one a good example). Only those that win the contest get their minister descriptions in game, the rest only get the very basic entry. And unofficially, I "conveniently leave out" photos for those that just don't fit at all (this goes for photos of like roman emperor statues and such too). So most ministers get in, but only five get anything more than to be background ministers equivalent to randomly generated ones. They all, even contest winners, take a back seat to every historical minister we have and are clearly marked in all files for easy removal. Hope I haven't crushed everyone's dream of teenagers ruling a neo-fascist Germany/Japan. Patter Song posted:Um...while that dev diary was pretty silly, the silliness factor wasn't my concern so much as the notion that Denmark could somehow try to revive the Sound Toll and cut the USSR off from the Atlantic by cutting off transit through the Danish straits. This just seems...wrong for the period. Or the notion that the Tartar Straits are important for the Soviets to hold in case they need to "reinforce Vladivostok by sea." By the time you're sending a fleet around Tsushima style to reinforce Vladivostok and keeping the passage between Sakhalin and the coast open is a strategic consideration, your USSR has bigger problems than strait transit. I'll check with some devs, that doesn't sound right at all and I can maybe get clarification on how that's supposed to work. It may be we miscommunicated, dunno. Edit: Oops, quoted the wrong thing! Bel Monte fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Patter Song posted:A country with sufficient power at a certain point can block all transit through a strait. The Denmark example is a bit of hyperbole to the extent that the Kiel Canal exists so as long as the USSR has transit through Germany Denmark can't cut them off entirely. (Denmark plus Germany, though...) See, it's completely plausible, and I'm happy to see a game that finally acknowledges the opportunities squandered by incompetent Danish politicians.
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I wouldn't mind knowing what possible economic or strategic value is found in holding the Strait of Magellan or the New Zealand straits, or in what situations the USSR would ever lose access to the Sea of Azov.
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Bel Monte posted:I've also made efforts to steer voting towards better options, though if y'all want to know how bad it can be... (None of that's in game. AT ALL.) History Marty Sues posted:...despite being of an immigrant family during the depression he was able to get an education. where he excelled at history and began a deep obsession with history especially military history and above all else than the works of the great julius caesar. edward study Roman and Greek strategies as well as culture officially converting to the hellenic religion when he was 16... This is amazing. Flying emperor dual-wielding a gladius and a kukri leading a fascist Roman Empire during the Cold War with Trotsky as his chief of staff. 
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Tomn posted:
God drat I cannot decide what is best here; renaming Italy to SPQR and adopting a democratic senate as a fascist, changing the state religion to a religion that doesn't exist as a form organized church without any interest from the average citizen, teaching an older archaic form of their own language, or Trotsky wanting a job in a fascist's nostalgic orgy he calls a government. The only reason it's not the worst entry is because it doesn't include Italy then intimidating the Soviet Union so bad it flees to east of the Urals and turns over everything else to Italy.
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I left it out because it would have taken a boatload of quotes, but for my money one of the best bits is the fact that this guy was born in Spain from a mixed German/Spanish family, moved to the US, ended up serving as a US soldier who performed heroics throughout both World War II and the Korean War...and then decided he wanted to found the new Roman Empire. So of course our little Germano-Hispanic-American moves to Italy, runs for the position of Mayor of Naples, wins, and in the very same year manages to gain "unprecedented amounts of political power" through voodoo magic one presumes, and thereby wins an election for Presidency of Italy. Not surprisingly the incumbent declares the vote to be have been rigged and thus invalid, which naturally leads to our boy Eddie starting a civil war, where "about 70% of italians including 60% of the military" backed him, and...oh good lord, I missed this quote first time around. quote:...and yet again inspired not just his troops but the people of italy which can be present in his 1954 speech to the loyalist force where he stated that even their family supported him and that they themselves are fighting that fact that they support him. after which thousands of loyalist troops surrendered. So, what, he told the enemy that "Honestly, you guys actually like me, search your hearts and you will find it to be true!" at which point they did so and agreed? So yeah. Complete foreigner, served in a foreign, hostile country for his entire life, and then moved to Italy and in the same year managed to win both a mayoral and presidential election as well as gaining enough political support to start and win a civil war, mostly by telling people they secretly liked him all along.
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grancheater posted:Yes, especially early in the game one or two powers can end up using everything, especially if they're at war. Your best bet would be to raise further in the rankings but that's kinda hard to do with no army. Best way to break the economy is to put a ridiculously high demand for something everyone needs, like Grain and then stockpiling it (but allowing your citizens to tap into it). If you are high enough in the rankings you can cause the entire world to fall into a revolution death spiral as their citizens starve.
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DrProsek posted:God drat I cannot decide what is best here; renaming Italy to SPQR and adopting a democratic senate as a fascist, changing the state religion to a religion that doesn't exist as a form organized church without any interest from the average citizen, teaching an older archaic form of their own language, or Trotsky wanting a job in a fascist's nostalgic orgy he calls a government. None of those hold a candle to "flying ninja emperor swoops down and kills 15 loyalists with a gladius and a kukri". Anybody can write a neo-imperial Marty Sue, but only legitxmalarkeyx had the wisdom to realise that what dry 1950s political alt-history really needed was some Fist of the North Star action. What I am now wondering is whether he's a fairly precocious child or a heavily challenged adult.
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E:^^^ Oh God how I seem to have missed all the most glorious parts  Haha, I skipped midway into it because I figured I should jump right into the heart of the crazy, but it seems I missed some of the best parts that puts later stupid things in a much stupider context. Him not even being Italian makes his Rome fetishization even more bizarre, he somehow won a very prestigious mayorship and then the presidency despite not being an Italian citizen (I guess they just sensed how in tune he was with ancient Rome he was that they just handed him citizenship before he even applied) and not being a politician, is a fascist with a love of really strong legislative branches prone to deadlock over petty bullshit and a weak executive, and in the middle of all of this is Trotsky, after faking his own death, comes out of hiding to help this man run the new Roman Republic (and presumably Trotsky then learned Latin and converted to Hellenistic paganism). Like I can appreciate a poorly written/thought out story that is still entertaining but at this point just post the flag of the Roman Republic over and over again, it's about as good of
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Feb 22, 2014 10:59
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I'm very mad that my completely reasonable and thoroughly researched alternate history was drowned out by such tripe! 
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Feb 22, 2014 11:07
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I'm very mad that my reasonable idea to have a flying roman bring back the empire was shot down!
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Hey now, if Hitler didn't need German citizenship either to stand for election in Germany, I am sure the future Roman emperor will be fine.
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Rogue0071 posted:I wouldn't mind knowing what possible economic or strategic value is found in holding the Strait of Magellan or the New Zealand straits, or in what situations the USSR would ever lose access to the Sea of Azov. Assuming this is a serious question, there is no strategic value in controlling any straights in New Zealand, and no economic value unless you really wanted some milk or wool, maybe.
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quote:... Edward gained the nickname aquila after he lead his men on a flanking maneuver on the loyalist forces where he leap over a ledge and appeared to fly like an eagle and presided to swoop down and kill 15 loyalist with a gladius in on hand and a kukri in the other... Proposed flag  Sicarius Populusque Romanus
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Bel Monte posted:The AI one is a bit nitty gritty for public consumption too, but whatevs, I'm not in charge of these things. No one talking about this? Finally we were told about the underlying AI structure of the game.  I can barely remember how we went on with our lives without knowing this. grancheater posted:Proposed flag Hah, this is great.
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NihilCredo posted:None of those hold a candle to "flying ninja emperor swoops down and kills 15 loyalists with a gladius and a kukri". I imagined it as looking exactly like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ZeptdPPrU.
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GrossMurpel posted:No one talking about this? Finally we were told about the underlying AI structure of the game. Well now I'm sold, the only thing that's left is for the game to be put up for sa- oh.
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GrossMurpel posted:No one talking about this? Finally we were told about the underlying AI structure of the game. Wow, I really appreciate these completely transparent changes now that the East vs. West team has included Rucksack with their Lua.
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Tomn posted:This is amazing. Flying emperor dual-wielding a gladius and a kukri leading a fascist Roman Empire during the Cold War with Trotsky as his chief of staff. As a Trotskyist I can confirm that this story was 100% fact. A friend of mine summarized the AI dev diary as such: quote:For the purposes of the dev diary all that could just be summarized with "we are using a scripting language called lua for the ai, making it highly moddable, and have optimized the code so that it won't slow down the game"
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Are they using JIT lua? I told Zerf to use it oh so many years ago, but probably nobody listened.
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So huh, I'm getting a warning message trying to log in to Paradox about how its security certificates have apparently expired, on the other hand I did run a spyware sleep that probably nuked my browser cookies/cache, how do I fix this?GrossMurpel posted:No one talking about this? Finally we were told about the underlying AI structure of the game. You joke, but I dig this stuff as a game designer in training.
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While playing DH I noticed that the Archbishop of Athens is an "efficient sociopath" when he smuggled Jews and tried to save as many lives as he can. Huh.
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There's like three total minister descriptions that could be described as positive and for minor nations I'm pretty sure are randomly assigned rather than in depth psychological reviews done for the best match.
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GrossMurpel posted:No one talking about this? Finally we were told about the underlying AI structure of the game. Sindai fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Sindai posted:Wait a minute, do other Clausewitz-engine export their AI to Lua? I thought it was generally unmodifiable outside of a few things that get exported to text files. If I recall right, they don't. This means moddable AI behavior which was buried under some of the technical stuff. Not sure how moddable it is though, but it's a big step up from hardcoded.
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A day has passed and i couldn't help myself from reading that SPQR story again. The idea that Trotsky ,74 years old, would simply show up at a palace in Italy without anyone noticing, having a chat with a fascist who was even more enamored with the past than a thousand Mussolinis combined and going "yeah dude you know what, count with me". This was after the mary sue, who was in the Franquist side of the Spanish civil war, saved Trotsky from Stalinist assassins while i guess Trotsky was on a sight seeing tour in Madrid. His chief of intelligence is a Polish partizan who fled from the Red Army and sent the emperor a letter, which the emperor found good enough to earn him the spot. It's just amazing
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Personally, I like Edward Maxis Jr., the drunk fascist pedophile, as Chief of Staff and Army.quote:because of his father being emperor everyone assumed that everything thing in his life was a gift so when his father pick him to be chief of the army he set out to prove that he could be more than his father and did everything to prove that he earned that position not given it. it didn’t help that he liked his women a little young or that he loved alcohol alittle to much becoming know as the Edward the drunk for most of his career.
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Puella Magissima posted:Personally, I like Edward Maxis Jr., the drunk fascist pedophile, as Chief of Staff and Army. God, I love how he just casually tosses that fact in, like it's some minor fault or odious personal habit. "Hmmm, yes, well there is that having sex with minors thing he does, which would be fine by itself, but combined with alcoholism and being a daddy's boy? Well that just goes too far."
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I think the not-so-hidden secret here is that it's a CK2 story happening in a WW2/Cold War setting. 16-year-old lovers, of course. The triggered event 'Edward Maxis II is now known as "The Drunk"' happens almost word-by-word. As for Trotsky, he just had a +25 "Tolerant of Jews" and a +100 "Gave me a Ministry" bonus overriding any ideological differences. The Polish Unfortunately I don't think I've yet seen a "ninja flip out dual wield eagle attack" event in CK2. I am sure the devs will rectify this shameful omission by next patch. NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Mans posted:A day has passed and i couldn't help myself from reading that SPQR story again. I don't know why the devs threw that one out. The Emperor should be heralded with sightings of comets and virgin birth.
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NihilCredo posted:I think the not-so-hidden secret here is that it's a CK2 story happening in a WW2/Cold War setting. Well, there is the martial skill improvement ambition event chain with the mysterious warrior from the east...
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Sindai posted:Wait a minute, do other Clausewitz-engine export their AI to Lua? I thought it was generally unmodifiable outside of a few things that get exported to text files. Only HoI3 Riso posted:Are they using JIT lua? I told Zerf to use it oh so many years ago, but probably nobody listened. We did trials and its not a drop-in solution for how we use lua and causes a bunch of hard to fix problems. At this point we optimized though so the lua execution is something like 5% total and its not really a big deal to optimize more when it causes a bunch of issues (read: the time spent making jit work would be better spent elsewhere) podcat fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Riso posted:Hey now, if Hitler didn't need German citizenship either to stand for election in Germany, I am sure the future Roman emperor will be fine. Hitler did need German citizenship to stand for election in Germany, which is surely the only reason the Emperor wasn't accepted as plausible.
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Is it possible for Allies or Comintern to win in HOI3 without playing as England, US or the CCCP? I try to play minor nations but the axis always ends up curling the soviets back to Siberia and repelling England's half-assed D-day attempt. Anyone have allies win by themselves?
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sparatuvs posted:Is it possible for Allies or Comintern to win in HOI3 without playing as England, US or the CCCP? I try to play minor nations but the axis always ends up curling the soviets back to Siberia and repelling England's half-assed D-day attempt. Anyone have allies win by themselves? Every time I play Axis. 
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sparatuvs posted:Is it possible for Allies or Comintern to win in HOI3 without playing as England, US or the CCCP? I try to play minor nations but the axis always ends up curling the soviets back to Siberia and repelling England's half-assed D-day attempt. Anyone have allies win by themselves? 80% of the time when I let the AI run all nations. Sometimes the axis beat the soviets and then will generally only lose to a big american invasion (usually through italy). The few times I see them win on their own its after a quick victory in russia and then invading britain together with italians. It happens quite often that the soviets pull off some larger lucky encirclement and just steamroll europe (go puppet france!). This generally happens only if US are getting their rear end kicked by the japs or they will manage to land and at least liberate france podcat fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Seriously though, I can't seem to log in to the Paradox forums, it says the account site's security certificate has expired, meaning I can't just pm an admin to inform them about it. This has seemed to have happened to a few other people as well. Anyone know what's up?
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Raenir Salazar posted:Seriously though, I can't seem to log in to the Paradox forums, it says the account site's security certificate has expired, meaning I can't just pm an admin to inform them about it. This has seemed to have happened to a few other people as well. Anyone know what's up? Fine for me in Chrome, but then when I logged out/logged back in it didn't use https at all, which is what the security certificate is for, right? Can you take the https out of the link?
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NihilCredo posted:Unfortunately I don't think I've yet seen a "ninja flip out dual wield eagle attack" event in CK2. I am sure the devs will rectify this shameful omission by next patch.
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