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Honestly, I'd be okay with a mega man game where you got to play as roll. That one looks terrible, though.
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In Mega Man Powered Up, if you connected to the internet, you could download Roll in a buncha costumes. She was pretty awful though.
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Feb 21, 2014 03:18
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Nihilarian posted:Honestly, I'd be okay with a mega man game where you got to play as roll. Is this the part where I tell you that a) there are Megaman fangames where you play as Roll, and b) this would actually be the best one if it weren't for the speedup?
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Feb 21, 2014 03:19
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Senerio posted:In Mega Man Powered Up, if you connected to the internet, you could download Roll in a buncha costumes. She was pretty awful though.
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Feb 21, 2014 16:45
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I remember playing the tutorial stage with her and being distinctly unimpressed. It was a while though and I lost my save so I dunno.
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Feb 21, 2014 16:57
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haplesscardsharp posted:Why does it have to be a MegaMAN? There was an abandoned LP for a game that basically did what you're talking about here. I can't remember the name, but it was a fun lp, while it lasted.
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Feb 21, 2014 17:49
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Rokko-chan.
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Heavy Sigh posted:
Dat Protoman, though. 
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I've spent the past couple of days catching up with this thread and I'm slightly disappointed that Mitt Romney Dress-Up wasn't the very last thing I watched. Are we still discussing how some of these games teach lovely lessons to young kids? Because I never liked the makeover games even as a little girl... but I'm pretty sure that's because I thought femininity was inherently inferior and all that fun poo poo. It got to the point where, in my teenage years, I got frustrated about the fact that guys didn't want to date me - I was just like them, I didn't like all those boring, girly things like shopping and make-up! Then I sighed and told myself, "Of course, it's because I don't have big boobs." No joke. I held a whole lot of other harmful views that took me years to grow out of. Maybe it would be nice if there were Girl Games out there that countered things like that. ... I'm still a sucker for dress-up games and customisation in actual videogames, though. And I hate wearing make-up? But I think that's more of a matter of personal comfort nowadays. Anyway, this thread is great, keep it up.
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YES! THAT'S IT! Thank you. Graceful Graveler posted:Are we still discussing how some of these games teach lovely lessons to young kids? I don't think that's ever going to cease being relevant in this thread.
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Graceful Graveler posted:I held a whole lot of other harmful views that took me years to grow out of. Maybe it would be nice if there were Girl Games out there that countered things like that. A lot of these girl games have the message of "You have to be someone you're not in order to get the guy" and that sucks. What I'd like to see happening more in girl games, and mainstream media in general, is telling people that it's okay to be themselves, and it's actually better for you - and yes, being yourself can be putting on dresses and makeup and such, but it can also be not doing that. After all, relationships don't last out of pure attraction, you've got to like the person's personality - a lesson that a lot of these games don't teach.
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20 minutes until my official start of stream. I have a decent handful of games prepped, so look forward to that. Because I'm going to be archiving this on youtube, and twitch has been eating comments since Twitch Plays Pokemon became a thing, I'm going to stream the twitch chat as well this time. Let me know if you feel this was an improvement or ultimately unnecessary. As a reminder, my twitch stream is http://twitch.tv/Senerio
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Killrrhubarb posted:A lot of these girl games have the message of "You have to be someone you're not in order to get the guy" and that sucks. What I'd like to see happening more in girl games, and mainstream media in general, is telling people that it's okay to be themselves, and it's actually better for you - and yes, being yourself can be putting on dresses and makeup and such, but it can also be not doing that. It's funny since guys see the opposite message a lot, that life will eventually just reward them with a woman for existing, since the main character always "gets the girl in the end." And then this leads to dudes who put no effort in seeming attractive wondering why women won't automatically date them after talking to them, causing a horrible cycle of bitter misogynists.
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nu_vagus posted:Someone on Twitter suggested making a remix of that song, but how could you possibly make it sound any better? And this thread has a theme song!
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Just a reminder that I'm doing a stream of the first Purple Moon game, Rockett's New School, tomorrow (or today, either way it's the 22nd) at 2:30 PM PST My stream page is here. I don't know how well the decision making bit is going to work with the 30 second stream delay Twitch seems to have, but I'm gonna try anyway. Edit: Make that 3 PM Got to fix an audio issue. Adnachiel fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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McOgre posted:It's funny since guys see the opposite message a lot, that life will eventually just reward them with a woman for existing, since the main character always "gets the girl in the end." This is not exactly true. I'll probably go on a tangent about this but it needs to be addressed so... Both genders have an appearance that is portrayed by the media as normal. For males it's tall, thin, muscular, white, either clean-shaven or stubble, whereas for a female it's tall, long-hair, white, thin, no body hair. This is generally what you'll see in movies, in advertisements, tv shows, etc. Magazines also have a reputation for attacking a celebrity for not fitting these roles. You'll find that in shows and movies, the people that get the laughs are typically not part of the normal look. Fat people, black people, nerds, goths... anyone that doesn't fit the norm is someone to be laughed at. I've seen a lot of people who don't fit into these concepts of beauty think they are not attractive and can't get a relationship, which sucks. I've also see people that do fit into these roles think they should get relationships because they are "attractive". What these people don't realize is that relationships rely on a lot more than just attraction to succeed. And yes, there are people that don't fit these "attractive" roles and do think they should get relationships by just being "nice". I don't know what's wrong with them. Killrrhubarb fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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And of course, the issue takes longer than that to fix. If anyone's still around and interested, the stream is up. I'll start in about 15.
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Killrrhubarb posted:Both females and men Don't do this.
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Devious Vacuum posted:Don't do this. The proper term is "3D waifus" and men. 
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Devious Vacuum posted:Don't do this. I fixed it up. Hopefully it's better now. It's something I wasn't thinking about, which is a problem in itself.
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Goons? (Rhythmic posting of a thread) Do you wanna play some girl games? We'll make it an LP We'll dress up people more and more Kind of a bore But at least there is Barbie These games are really lovely And kinda dumb And maybe we could say why!- Do you wanna play some girl games? We can also play some guy games. (Go away, DVac!) Okay, bye.
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Okay, so I had a question regarding terminology; my mother and I were having a discussion regarding the words "transsexual" and "transgendered," and had come to a disagreement. Mom felt that one of the words had become an inappropriate/archaic term, and the other was the generally accepted one, while I had the impression that the two words meant slightly different things (last I had been told, "sex" referred to body and "gender" referred to identity). Anyone have any input on this?
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Killrrhubarb posted:This is not exactly true. I'll probably go on a tangent about this but it needs to be addressed so... I disagree with this. There are men of all kinds of body types on TV. Fat men like Homer Simpsom and Peter Griffin are protagonists all the time. There are tons of movies about ugly men or fat men or otherwise quirky or undesirable men that are sympathetic characters that have heart deep down and end up getting the woman of their dreams. None of this happens for fat women. They don't exist. Their very existence in media is an eyesore that evokes recoil and disgust from the audience.
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Killrrhubarb posted:For males it's tall, thin, muscular, white, either clean-shaven or stubble, whereas for a female it's tall, long-hair, white, thin, no body hair. What we're getting at here is that patriarchy engenders a sense of entitlement to women's bodies while also punishing men for not fitting into a strict masculine ideal. It can do both of these things at the same time. The long and short of it is, patriarchy hurts everyone. If you are particularly interested in how American (really Western as a whole) culture is failing our sons, I suggest taking a look at The Mask You Live In, part of the Representation Project. azren posted:Okay, so I had a question regarding terminology; my mother and I were having a discussion regarding the words "transsexual" and "transgendered," and had come to a disagreement. Mom felt that one of the words had become an inappropriate/archaic term, and the other was the generally accepted one, while I had the impression that the two words meant slightly different things (last I had been told, "sex" referred to body and "gender" referred to identity). Anyone have any input on this? You are correct in your interpretation about the difference between sex and gender. Transgender is the appropriate word to use, however, because other people's privates are none of your business. Devious Vacuum fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Hokuto posted:I disagree with this. There are men of all kinds of body types on TV. Fat men like Homer Simpsom and Peter Griffin are protagonists all the time. There are tons of movies about ugly men or fat men or otherwise quirky or undesirable men that are sympathetic characters that have heart deep down and end up getting the woman of their dreams. Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are "comedy fat", their weight is the source of comedy. You can also see it in the Cleveland show, where the main character is "comedy black". These roles are not something people aspire to. Mike and Molly is a good example of a show that has a fat couple. The humour is mostly low-brow fat jokes. In fact, I think there was a full 9 minute bit where the punchline was "ham". They are not something to aspire to.
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Devious Vacuum posted:You are correct in your interpretation about the difference between sex and gender. Transgender is the appropriate word to use, however, because other people's privates are none of your business. Actually the popular term nowadays is just "trans", or "trans woman/trans man" if the situation really calls for specifics.
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dijon du jour posted:Actually the popular term nowadays is just "trans", or "trans woman/trans man" if the situation really calls for specifics. Agreed! Yes! This is also what I say IRL, the words just didn't come to me. Just treat people's identities as a case-by-case basis, friends. Use the words they identify with.
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azren posted:Okay, so I had a question regarding terminology; my mother and I were having a discussion regarding the words "transsexual" and "transgendered," and had come to a disagreement. Mom felt that one of the words had become an inappropriate/archaic term, and the other was the generally accepted one, while I had the impression that the two words meant slightly different things (last I had been told, "sex" referred to body and "gender" referred to identity). Anyone have any input on this? As long as you are respectful about it, simply asking someone what term she and/or he prefer is your best bet. Some identify as either a man or woman. Some like to use the term "trans", which seems pretty neutral. Some don't place themselves all the way on one side or the other of the gender spectrum. Other people will want to be referred to using another term. Sex and gender are important things, but they aren't the only things that define a person. So also be aware that thinking of someone as your "transgendered friend" is very ignorant.
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Killrrhubarb posted:This is not exactly true. I'll probably go on a tangent about this but it needs to be addressed so... I originally said "seeming attractive", by which I mean that you don't have to look like Ryan Gosling or whoever, I just mean you put an effort into having a nice outward appearance. Like dressing well. As DVac said, the patriarchy hurts everyone, and in this case, the patriarchy says that putting any effort into appearance is a feminine, icky thing. Initial attraction, among other things, is important in relationships, and while women are buried under messages telling them to dress nice and wear makeup, men don't really get anything similar, leading to the non-Ryan-Gosling-looking guys you mentioned thinking all hope is lost when all they need to do is shave their neckbeard and get a haircut to look a million times better. Also, ugly/fat/awkward guy having a conventionally good-looking wife is a pretty common trope, regardless of beauty standards for men (which I'm not saying don't exist).
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I would also like to mention that sex and gender have nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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 With EntranceJew, Heavy Sigh, Miniature Moose and YapoWatch me totally suck at girl games and also start out with some audio problems. I'm half awake, so if I screwed something up let me know. There should be a preview for next time in there.
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Man, i remember when everyone had that ringtone you played at the end. But anyway, I heard that game was IMPOSSIBLE.
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I actually still use that as my text tone because I needed one fast and it popped into my head.
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Gensuki posted:Transgender denotes pre-op, whether or not they plan to/want to go through that path. Transsexual means they have had SRS. Going back to Azren's question though, I'll quote the Transgender megathread OP (it's in e/n, ps don't read it, or the link) Mootiman posted:
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Mastigophoran posted:Er what? Is there a source you're using for what I assume you're suggesting are the "proper" definitions for transsexual and transgender? LGBT club. The dictionary. What words mean. My club is wrong, my dictionary is wrong and my understanding of english is wrong. I'm sorry. EDIT: here is a helpful website. http://www.transawareness.org/what-is-the-difference-between-transgender-and-transsexual.html Gensuki fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Gensuki posted:LGBT club. Err, OK? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you are 'wrong', and that that is OK, although 'the dictionary' and 'what words mean' seem a little harsh - these are pretty new words for emerging communities and definitions have sort of changed and developed a lot over the past few decades, so maybe you just had an old definition? The google definitions are in line with what I'm used to; transgender and transsexual. fake edit: haha, just saw your edit. Don't feel bad, this is a place of peace and harmony! Or... something?
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Thread, I'm so proud of you for not devolving into awkward arguing about this. SO PROUD. And yes, that's right, this thread is about LOVE and FRIENDSHIP. So in that vein, have an update! It's the worst one yet!! with EntranceJewHorrible Things Expert EntranceJew joins me for a game even he was not prepared for. Warning: no gross surgery or blood in this video, but a level of cultural appropriation that may make your stomach turn.
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