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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's probably not a good idea to be watching that much cable news in the first place, no matter what channel.
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Freepiest caller you could ever hope to hear on the subject of music and the political leanings of its enthusiasts.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Agreed, although at least Maddow is attempting real reporting here. People tying themselves into a knot with rage and declaring it the Left's Benghazi just makes me laugh with how absurd it is. "Real reporting on a real scandal?? BENGHAZI!"
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I think people like Maher are confusing deep, comprehensive reporting with obsession, which is weird but understandable given the gradual watering down of journalism over the last several decades.
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beatlegs posted:I think people like Maher are confusing deep, comprehensive reporting with obsession, which is weird but understandable given the gradual watering down of journalism over the last several decades. Funnily enough he had Maddow on his show tonight and got into why they're covering Christie so much, and from what he said it seems he thinks the bridge closing is the entire scandal, which is why in his mind it doesn't merit such extensive coverage.
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beatlegs posted:I think people like Maher are confusing deep, comprehensive reporting with obsession, which is weird but understandable given the gradual watering down of journalism over the last several decades.
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comes along bort posted:Funnily enough he had Maddow on his show tonight and got into why they're covering Christie so much, and from what he said it seems he thinks the bridge closing is the entire scandal, which is why in his mind it doesn't merit such extensive coverage. Well maybe he should actually watch the show. It sounds like he turns it on, sees the Christie-related title card behind Maddow, goes  and changes the channel.
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Bunleigh posted:How long did Woodward and Bernstein have to dog the Watergate story before it really blew open? Wasn't it like a year? Let's not have a scandal measuring contest. Maddow is reporting on the activities of others, not secretly meeting with insider sources to bring down an administration. She's great and one of the last decent pundits, but comparing her providing nightly updates about what others are doing to the actions of Woodward and Bernstein is quite a bit of a stretch.
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Feb 22, 2014 07:26
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Bait and Swatch posted:Let's not have a scandal measuring contest. Maddow is reporting on the activities of others, not secretly meeting with insider sources to bring down an administration. She's great and one of the last decent pundits, but comparing her providing nightly updates about what others are doing to the actions of Woodward and Bernstein is quite a bit of a stretch. The thing is that Maddow is the closest entity to "investigative journalism" we have now. Nobody else wants to dig into the inner workings of Congress or any particular state-level gov't because they'll lose their "access". She just plain doesn't give a gently caress and MSNBC has given her the resources to research and expose all the bullshit that she knows is all around the executives she's publicly shaming.
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And it drives the MSNBC beltway snobs absolutely crazy. "Stop, stop! Rachel's not on till 9!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TugubiVq81Q
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Gozinbulx posted:I really don't get all the Maher hate, never get it. Last week he said that he didn't think Woody Allen was a child molester (even though there is verifiable proof he is - http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-facts) and said people need to be "very sure" about that accusation. The person accusing Woody Allen of molestation is the daughter he molested, by the way. Just his general misogyny, like the above example is kind of gross. He jokes a lot about abusing and raping women. Ironically, these are usually the points in the show that don't play well. And actually being a rape apologist is pretty bad.
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Bait and Swatch posted:Speaking of Sanger, ... Every time I've dug into the source of a Sanger quote it's been smear. Though I've mostly focused in the racial stuff. One of the most common "black holocaust" quotes of hers comes from an exchange like this: 1: a bunch of black pastors in the south note the connection between to much fertility and poverty and write Sanger asking her to come to their communities and teach contraception. They figure,quite correctly, that if they could focus more resources per child they could lift their people out of squalor. 2: Sanger writes back that she is pretty busy but could come down to meet a select group of women from their communities who could then go back and teach contraception to their neighbors. She notes that the message would probably come better from other women of color than from a white woman anyway and references slanders linking contraception and eugenics that were already being pushed. The right loves to take sentences from the second letter out of context to imply that she was seeking to deceive black women into using contraceptives for the purpose of eugenics. They present it as an internal PP communication talking about black people. Not an external communication responding to a request for help from black community leaders. And it ignores the simple truth that its a lot harder to achieve the American dream of a better life for your children when you have 7 kids and are desperately poor. Aiming for two or three and investing more resources per child is definitely the way to go. Which is the heart of Sanger's actual message. So I've only dug into a few of them but what I've found each time has me respecting Sanger more and more. She was one of the first people to really work through the implications of industrialization on the economics of kids. In farm communities children are labor/wealth and more is better. But the world was changing from that world to our world. From quantity to quality.
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McAlister posted:Background on Sanger... That's what I figured. Thanks for that. While Sanger may not be a saint, I figured a lot of it was taken out of context and manipulated by those who opposed her agenda.
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So this band just preformed the anthemm at the NASCAR Nationwide race I'm watching:quote:Madison Rising is a patriotic rock band. With their flag waving this group appeals to Conservative Americans both young and old. Crowds enjoy hearing their #1 best selling rendition of The Star Spangled Banner. The band is led by Dave Bray, a USN/USMC Veteran. With original songs like "Right to Bear", "Hero" and "Ready if it Goes There," along with renditions of American classics such as "America the Beautiful" and "God Bless America," Madison Rising proudly express their love of God, Country, and The Constitution. The band has performed at NFL games, Bowl games, NASCAR races, the Sturgis Motorcycle Festival, dozens of private corporate events, and rock clubs across the nation. They have shared the stage with Toby Keith, Weezer, Kansas, Steppenwolf, and many more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Rising This seems like literal satire. Like it was some group cooked up for a Will Ferrell movie. e: The Anthem was one of the worst I've ever heard to boot. e2: The "Right to bear" song is just...well...something. Please, god, click this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cQ7ldhD05E FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Feb 22, 2014 |
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Bait and Swatch posted:That's what I figured. Thanks for that. While Sanger may not be a saint, I figured a lot of it was taken out of context and manipulated by those who opposed her agenda. Also worth noting is that Sanger was 100% opposed to abortion and promoted birth control in part to reduce or stop women from having abortions. This is a tidbit that anti-abortion quote miners forget to mention for some reason.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:Not even close to true anyways. Nazi Germany had socialized healthcare sure, but so did Wiemar Germany. So did German Empire Germany. Don't forget one other period in time: modern day Germany
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Feb 22, 2014 19:49
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FuzzySkinner posted:So this band just preformed the anthemm at the NASCAR Nationwide race I'm watching: There's no better national anthem than Star Spangled Mojo.
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FuzzySkinner posted:So this band just preformed the anthemm at the NASCAR Nationwide race I'm watching: That kinda reminds of me of those neo-Nazi groups. That's not just a cheap jab at conservatives; I mean that the subject matter is always very direct and plainly stated, and the song titles are always precisely what they're about (ex: "Race War," "Black Menace," "Final Solution," I'm sure if you googled those you would find songs with those exact titles). You don't need to sit down and think about the lyrics while you read them and listen to the music. You know what the lyrics are because they're straightforward, and you knew what the song was about when you saw the title.
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FuzzySkinner posted:So this band just preformed the anthemm at the NASCAR Nationwide race I'm watching: I highly recommend clicking the youtube link. I think the best part is the hardcore-style breakdown towards the end. 
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Feb 23, 2014 04:18
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Their new song is gonna drop soon, it's called "Then Everybody Stood and Clapped."
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From their album "Only 86% will send this on - It should be 100%!!!"
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The mainstream media won't cover it though, they'll be only interested in noted drug user Whitney Houston. I guess they don't look enough like Obama's son Trayvon.
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Tracklist from their album: Right To Bear Soldiers of America Rally the Youth Honk If You Want Peace - (This song is about a dad who is trying to take his dying child to the hospital, but gets caught in traffic from a peace protest. Seriously.) Walking Through That Door American Dream Hallowed Ground Where Was The Media Then Before The Hyphens Came In The Days That Reagan Ruled If you really want to read more words than this garbage deserves, there's a review here. Edit: fixed my error in the review link skaboomizzy fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Feb 23, 2014 07:03
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skaboomizzy posted:Tracklist from their album: Christ, I thought you were making a joke.
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Feb 23, 2014 07:21
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skaboomizzy posted:Tracklist from their album: Please, please tell me this one is about "hyphenated-Americans" aka ethnic Americans.
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Feb 23, 2014 07:22
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They are kind enough to put all their lyrics on their site. As far as "Before The Hyphens Came", enjoy the second verse: Somewhere down along the line, someone had the great idea to divide us up by heritage, and profit from that fear But growing up a while back, before these racial trends Whether immigrant, or white or black, we just called each other friends And if we spoke an extra language, it was just another way To pledge allegiance to the flag, God bless the USA
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Feb 23, 2014 07:26
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skaboomizzy posted:They are kind enough to put all their lyrics on their site. But nowadays if you sing it while drinking Coke then sorry there's no place in this country for you.
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Feb 23, 2014 07:38
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skaboomizzy posted:Somewhere down along the line, someone had the great idea 
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:But nowadays if you sing it while drinking Coke then sorry there's no place in this country for you. And god forbid the language you pledge allegiance in forces someone else to pledge theirs by pressing 1 for English customer support.
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Leaked single from their next album? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIsv1YOFNys
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I can't stop despair-laughing at their version of American history where there's no racism, xenophobia, or oppression until one day in the 1960s someone points out "Hey, ever notice you're black? Make up a reason to get upset about it" like a snake corrupting our Edenic, pre-Civil Rights culture. Almost every single song on that album is about how America is threatened by treacherous enemies from within. The only exceptions are the ones about soldiers going off to fight the foreign enemies. I hate to throw around the phrase "fascism wrapped in the American Flag," but they're not leaving me a lot of options. skaboomizzy posted:Somewhere down along the line, someone had the great idea Who is this "someone"? Who could have concocted this devious scheme to profit from destroying our country? Oh, I think the answer's clear, especially when you read the lyrics to other songs. It's those people. The ones in Hollywood who control the media. Yeah, you know.
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My favorite bit is "But growing up a while back, before these racial trends Whether immigrant, or white or black, we just called each other friends" These are young dudes. Apparently this racial tolerance wonderland was sometime in the last 30 years.
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Feb 23, 2014 09:24
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Yep, America was an idyllic, colorblind utopia before liberals suddenly slapped a label on everyone in the 80's and 90's.
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Feb 23, 2014 09:35
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Well of course. People knew their place. All power to the right people! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wzWNDePLdQ
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Leaked single from their next album? I was thinking more along the lines of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esy2b7qA9U4
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skaboomizzy posted:Tracklist from their album: You know who else rallied the youth... 
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VirtualStranger posted:You know who else rallied the youth... Given the bigotry in those songs, this is a godwin that is actually fitting.
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skaboomizzy posted:If you really want to read more words than this garbage deserves, there's a review here. quote:It’s metal. For your mom.
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