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Haha, that was fast. Threads of disloyalty are disappearing. I love when these rectangles are funnier than bitcoin.Veyrall posted:You folks are over-thinking it. He's just posting about his experience, and probably going out to play ball later. Unless he's directly stated that Magic is literally his only career or something? I haven't watched his stream in a while, so my knowledge may be outdated, but last I heard he was coaching or something and making money that way. I don't pay attention to TWoo at all aside from the funny stories I read in this thread but when I see twitch superstars flail around I'm doing the reasonable thing and assuming it's all for attention. It would only be funnier if I learned he was into Crossfit because it would make so much sense.
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What a Judas posted:It's Lich, the most flavorful card in the game. He was referring to your terribly altered Force of Wills.
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"The card just won me a Pro Tour. *heeh heeh*"MrBling posted:He was referring to your terribly altered Force of Wills. No need to be a dick, dick.
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Feb 23, 2014 20:47
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So we can expect Threads of Disloyalty to spike again, right?
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Sampatrick posted:Threads of Disloyalty has got to be the all star of McLaren's deck, especially for the pro tour so far. Also, is there video of any of the Blue Moon matchups?
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Feb 23, 2014 20:49
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How odd it must be to be on the verge of tears describing yourself as physically ill during your $20,000 runner-up award ceremony.
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clamiam45 posted:How odd it must be to be on the verge of tears describing yourself as physically ill during your $20,000 runner-up award ceremony. I feel really sorry for Wilson; he got flooded incredibly badly in Game 5 which must suck a bunch.
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Feb 23, 2014 20:51
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Count Bleck posted:So we can expect Threads of Disloyalty to spike again, right?
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Count Bleck posted:So we can expect Threads of Disloyalty to spike again, right? They're already sold out in a lot of places. A dozen on ebay but the leftovers on tcg are already higher than 25bux. Foils are almost all gone. There's still a couple here. However, do note that you probably only need a couple so I can't imagine it goes that high. I'm still surprised it even got up to 25bux. They were $12 the entire time I've been using them in Modern for the past couple years.
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Feb 23, 2014 20:53
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Zemyla posted:Well, yeah, how many relevant Modern creatures have CMC higher than 2?
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Someone drew Maritime Guards on a pair of Force of Wills, and didn't even do a particularly good job at it. If you can find someone to pay you a lot of money for them then more power to you.
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Is Threads of Loyalty even a better or worse card now than people already knew it was before the PT (i.e. did some surprise new creature come out of the woodwork for it to target) or is any spike just a pavlovian reaction to seeing it on camera as the card that happened to be the last relevant play in the pro tour?
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MrBling posted:Someone drew Maritime Guards on a pair of Force of Wills, and didn't even do a particularly good job at it. If you can find someone to pay you a lot of money for them then more power to you. Whoever did the alter is no Klug, but it's a fine alter. It's also a neat looking alter. I'm sorry you don't like my cards, MrBling. 
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JerryLee posted:Is Threads of Loyalty even a better or worse card now than people already knew it was before the PT (i.e. did some surprise new creature come out of the woodwork for it to target) or is any spike just a pavlovian reaction to seeing it on camera as the card that happened to be the last relevant play in the pro tour? I imagine the latter. It's been an off and on standard sideboard card for as long as Old Glory control's been a deck.
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JerryLee posted:Is Threads of Loyalty even a better or worse card now than people already knew it was before the PT (i.e. did some surprise new creature come out of the woodwork for it to target) or is any spike just a pavlovian reaction to seeing it on camera as the card that happened to be the last relevant play in the pro tour? Also, the prices are high because practically no one opened BOK.
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Is there any reason you would want threads vs shackles if you plan to go long? Shackles seems more resilient and flexible, at the cost of costing a little bit more mana to use properly.
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Feb 23, 2014 21:01
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Zemyla posted:The latter, but it should have been big though all of Modern. It steals all sorts of poo poo, up to and including Goyf (and DRS back when it was legal). I'm really surprised it wasn't a pick for MMA. There would probably still have been more BOK opened, but at least it wouldn't have been for lack of wanting to.  I'm assuming Threads is a lock for the hypothetical maybe-future MM2.
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Feb 23, 2014 21:01
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JerryLee posted:I'm really surprised it wasn't a pick for MMA.
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Korak posted:Is there any reason you would want threads vs shackles if you plan to go long? Shackles seems more resilient and flexible, at the cost of costing a little bit more mana to use properly. The deck plays Master of Waves and it ups their Devotion by 2
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Feb 23, 2014 21:59
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Tharizdun posted:The deck plays Master of Waves and it ups their Devotion by 2
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Feb 23, 2014 22:01
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Korak posted:Not Bleu Moon, I meant UWR. Until Wear/Tear becomes the default artifact choice (and even after that for a lot of decks), there's a lot more residual artifact hate going around than there is Enchantment hate.
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Korak posted:Is there any reason you would want threads vs shackles if you plan to go long? Shackles seems more resilient and flexible, at the cost of costing a little bit more mana to use properly. Two of the cards that you'd like to threads of disloyalty - tarmogoyf and scavenging ooze - can get a pretty sizable power and UWR only runs 6 islands. In the finals McLaren wouldn't have been able to take Jacob's scavenging ooze if he had shackles instead of threads.
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Feb 23, 2014 22:39
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Balon posted:For the first time in weeks playing my Purphoros Commander deck I was able to have a Thropter Assembly out during my upkeep for a potential 10 damage to all opponents. Yeah same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago. It's lame. I had a Chancellor of the Forge coming down after.
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If I activate a genju and attack, and the genju enchantment gets naturalized or what ever, is the land still a dude until end of turn?
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Feb 24, 2014 02:03
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Just saw the hilariously rad Fathom Mage, Sunbond, Horizon Chimera combo on MTGO. Fathon Mage was a 30/30 the next turn and he had 26 cards in hand, drops an Elixir like "nbd I got this", ugh, so funny.
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Molybdenum posted:If I activate a genju and attack, and the genju enchantment gets naturalized or what ever, is the land still a dude until end of turn? Yes.
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Feb 24, 2014 02:31
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Loving Life Partner posted:Just saw the hilariously rad Fathom Mage, Sunbond, Horizon Chimera combo on MTGO. Add Archangel of Thune and Sphinx's Revelation for more overkill fun.
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Feb 24, 2014 03:23
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What a Judas posted:It's Lich, the most flavorful card in the game. Has anyone at Wizards ever acknowledged cards like this and Form of the Dragon? It seems like they'd be really popular with casuals, and frankly, they're so cool I'm shocked they don't get printed more often.
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Boxman posted:Has anyone at Wizards ever acknowledged cards like this and Form of the Dragon? It seems like they'd be really popular with casuals, and frankly, they're so cool I'm shocked they don't get printed more often. What do you mean by acknowledged? They've talked about them as examples of good top-down design. There have been other Lich cards playing off the same ideas, including at least one as recent as Alara block. Anything in particular you're looking for? I agree, it'd be cool to have more "literally turns your game wizard self into a monster" things.
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JerryLee posted:What do you mean by acknowledged? They've talked about them as examples of good top-down design. There have been other Lich cards playing off the same ideas, including at least one as recent as Alara block. Anything in particular you're looking for? Hearthstone did a great goddamn job with the concept, though it's only been implemented once so far. Warlocks can summon Jaraxxus and he'll promptly murder your hero character and replace him, complete with new dialogue, new stats, a new power, etc.
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JerryLee posted:What do you mean by acknowledged? They've talked about them as examples of good top-down design. There have been other Lich cards playing off the same ideas, including at least one as recent as Alara block. Anything in particular you're looking for? Form of the Hydra GGGG6 Enchantment When Form of the Hydra comes into play, shuffle up to 2 decks you own from outside of the game. Those decks gain 10 life. You may play those decks in addition to your own on your turn. Whenever one of those decks have 0 or less life, lose half your life rounded down and that deck is removed from the game. If Form of the Hydra leaves play, those decks life totals become 0. Or something. Obviously a templating nightmare and also not something they'd ever make, but I'd play it! Hire me Wizards!
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My own take on Form of the Hydra would be something like-- When ~ comes into play, put [some number] head counters on it. If you would be dealt damage, instead remove one head counter from ~. If you can't, sacrifice it. When you sacrifice ~, you lose the game. Maybe include a mechanic to grow new heads depending on how good you want to make the card.
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Come on guys, Form of the Hydra has to have X in the casting cost. Form of the Hydra, XGG, Enchantment, ~ enters the battlefield with X head counters. If you would lose life, instead remove a head counter from ~. At the beginning of your upkeep, put two head counters on ~ for each head counter removed during the previous turn. If ~ has zero counters on it, you lose the game.
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oryx posted:Come on guys, Form of the Hydra has to have X in the casting cost. Owned by Vampire Hexmage.
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oryx posted:Come on guys, Form of the Hydra has to have X in the casting cost. This made me realize that I miss Fungusaur.
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Feb 24, 2014 05:33
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oryx posted:Come on guys, Form of the Hydra has to have X in the casting cost. My original idea was GGGGXXX and you get X decks, but that seemed even more ridiculous. So I guess I balanced a fake card that will never get made.
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JerryLee posted:I agree, it'd be cool to have more "literally turns your game wizard self into a monster" things that are playable. Fixed that for you. I had a friend in high school who tried to make Nefarious Lich work for a couple weeks, but other than that I don't think I've seen a "Lich" card or something like Form of the Dragon see much play. Was I just not looking hard enough?
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C-Euro posted:Fixed that for you. I had a friend in high school who tried to make Nefarious Lich work for a couple weeks, but other than that I don't think I've seen a "Lich" card or something like Form of the Dragon see much play. Was I just not looking hard enough? There's a Modern deck that runs Form of the Dragon. It's awesomely fun, if not super competitive.
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Form of the Dragon was the kill condition in the deck that used that spell from Champions block that lets you get an enchantment from your deck every turn for the rest of the game (but doesn't let you cast any other spells). I think that was an extended deck. I feel like it was also used as a sideboard card while it was in standard, but I'm not sure about that.
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"Bad Form" was a thing in Onslaught block and some Standards for a while after. It's also one particular wincon/toolbox piece in Enduring Ideal. What really hurt Form of the Dragon was burn spells becoming more efficient and common (where before they had to triple-Shock you, now they have to double-Bolt you, and now even the control decks and combo decks play mad burn spells). It was never Tier 1 in the first place, so yeah. Also Nefarious Lich was at least part of an awesome, if tier 3 or so combo deck.
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