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Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Since we're asking questions about being bad, anyone got tips on getting my headshot % up? I see most good goonman players have at least 50%+, and while I believe I'm a decent player, I only have 20% or so headshot percentage. I feel like my gameplay would drastically change if I could get my headshot/kill % up.

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Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

Babyface Mingo posted:

Since we're asking questions about being bad, anyone got tips on getting my headshot % up? I see most good goonman players have at least 50%+, and while I believe I'm a decent player, I only have 20% or so headshot percentage. I feel like my gameplay would drastically change if I could get my headshot/kill % up.

If you watch pro players you'll notice how they're making headshots look like muppet-baby learning time and you'll wonder why you're such poo poo. The answer is that they set themselves up so those shots are easy to take, i.e. they're already aiming at the head before it comes into view. The difference between waiting until the enemy places his head in your crosshair and clicking vs. placing your crosshair on his head doesn't look like a drastic change but mentally it's huge.

The next time you're goonmannin watch someone who regularly clicks heads like t0tt. He makes it look like he's not trying at all but it's because he's doing all the hard work before the fight even starts.

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga
DM a lot, lower your sensitivity, etc...

But really the valve headshot percentage is really misleading and only counts the percentage of your kills that are headshots. A better measurement is the percentage of your hits that are headshots and realistically no one's HSP is actually that high: (really outdated stats) http://goonpug.com/stats/pug/career/?sort=-hsp

also: keep your crosshairs at head level at all times

hello internet
Sep 13, 2004

Necc0 posted:

If you watch pro players you'll notice how they're making headshots look like muppet-baby learning time and you'll wonder why you're such poo poo. The answer is that they set themselves up so those shots are easy to take, i.e. they're already aiming at the head before it comes into view. The difference between waiting until the enemy places his head in your crosshair and clicking vs. placing your crosshair on his head doesn't look like a drastic change but mentally it's huge.

The next time you're goonmannin watch someone who regularly clicks heads like t0tt. He makes it look like he's not trying at all but it's because he's doing all the hard work before the fight even starts.

Yeah this is the biggest way more so than just flat out wrist accuracy. Learn the height of the models and where their heads would be as they come around particular corners.

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

kcer posted:

As a CT if you push and die, it's not nearly as much of a problem as you have the advantage of defending, and can still quite easily get at least 1 kill as they push.

I disagree in general. CT's do not want to trade. It's advantageous for terrorists to trade. CTs have to cover more ground and they need more people to do so. Terrorists only have to defend one site after plant. Generally the situations T's run in to: a 5v 3 or 2 with no trades. After a trade it's usually 4 v 2 or 1. Another trade and it's 3 v 1 or 0. Each trade makes it easier to crack a site. Obviously this is a simplicity that ignores rotates and other metagame stuff.

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
CT gear is also more expensive, so each trade is also a monetary win.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

down with slavery posted:

I was surprised you seriously don't get why calling both places apartments might be confusing to your team regardless of how you preface it but I guess we're all learning new things today.

v That's because most professional counter-strike teamsfunctional human beings have picked up on those basic concepts teagone continues to struggle with

No, I get it. It's just that prefacing apartments with either A or B makes all the difference. I don't get how you could misconstrue the two terms in any way. I do get why some goons dislike you now though. I honestly had no issues with you before, but after recent events I completely understand. Jesus... be more condescending next time, yeah?

teagone fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Feb 24, 2014

down with slavery
Dec 23, 2013
STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

teagone posted:

No, I get it. It's just that prefacing apartments with either A or B makes all the difference. I don't get how you could misconstrue the two terms in any way. I do get why some goons dislike you now though. I honestly had no issues with you before, but after recent events I completely understand. Jesus... be more condescending next time, yeah?

:confused:

last page posted:

Now, in a game like counter-strike there can be gunfire, crosstalk, and a whole host of other issues that can prevent you from hearing the entire message your teammate is giving you. Thus, it becomes beneficial to have calls be distinct so that the information can be conveyed regardless of whether or not the message comes through in its entirety.

:golfclap: on taking your terrible posting to the next level and trying to make it weirdly personal as well. Sorry for being condescending but the ":smug: how can you possible confuse a apartments and b apartments" is just painfully retarded to read and makes me think that you're being condescending in the first place. Don't dish it out if you can't take it and all that.

down with slavery fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Feb 24, 2014

IT BEGINS
Jan 15, 2009

I don't know how to make analogies

teagone posted:

No, I get it. It's just that prefacing apartments with either A or B makes all the difference. I don't get how you could misconstrue the two terms in any way. I do get why some goons dislike you now though. I honestly had no issues with you before, but after recent events I completely understand. Jesus... be more condescending next time, yeah?

I've had people miscall A apartments as B, and the reverse. I've never heard anyone miscall palace as apartments. Myself, I've definitely missed a call because there was a push both mid and palace and I heard the following:

<gunshot>midmid2mid1connector2a<gunshot>apps!<gunshot>

It's not something that happens often, but there can be a real advantage to using an unambiguous single word over two.

IT BEGINS fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Feb 24, 2014

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

teagone posted:

No, I get it. It's just that prefacing apartments with either A or B makes all the difference. I don't get how you could misconstrue the two terms in any way. I do get why some goons dislike you now though. I honestly had no issues with you before, but after recent events I completely understand. Jesus... be more condescending next time, yeah?

If a gun goes off while you're saying A or B and they only hear the aps part, they're going to think B. Maybe they're distracted and only catch the end of it.

A sounds very similar to A, so when you call A aps it may sounds like aps. Most people default to aps being B aps, which would cause confusion.

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga

Cerepol posted:

I tried recording a demo to avi but whenever I type "startmovie blargh avi" into console the pop up does not appear, even alt tabbing and trying to get back in fails to work. I'm at a loss. I just want to share my crappy 4k that I feel proud of because it didn't feel like all luck. (though it was)

If you want to just go straight to avi the easiest way to do it is to use fraps. If you don't mind doing some extra :effort: you can use startmovie <name> tga wav, which will generate a .tga file for every frame and a wav file with the audio (you won't hear any audio while recording and it will be choppy video while recording, but it works). Then you can use virtualdub to render all the .tga files and the wav into an avi. Fraps is definitely the easiest way to do it, but I tried the tga method for my last ace video and it was ok.

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

by Azathoth
Watching friberg stream today and they dont call it apartments on mirage, they call it horhus which is swedish for whore house :getin:

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

down with slavery posted:

:confused:


:golfclap: on taking your terrible posting to the next level and trying to make it weirdly personal as well

I took offense to your whole "hurr let me draw you up a venn diagram to explain why your way of thinking is obviously dumb". You could have just said calling it "B halls" is better with an explanation as to why, but you went out of your way to be a condescending asshat towards me for no apparent reason.

Bashez posted:

If a gun goes off while you're saying A or B and they only hear the aps part, they're going to think B. Maybe they're distracted and only catch the end of it.

A sounds very similar to A, so when you call A aps it may sounds like aps. Most people default to aps being B aps, which would cause confusion.

I'm just going to call "A apts" palace now. :sigh:

teagone fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Feb 24, 2014

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga
You should be aware of who is playing where on your team (this goes along with not switching spots). If an A player says "steps apartments" it should be pretty obvious which apartments they are taking about. This is harder in mm when you might not know people's voices I guess, but in goonmans this isn't an issue.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

astr0man posted:

You should be aware of who is playing where on your team (this goes along with not switching spots). If an A player says "steps apartments" it should be pretty obvious which apartments they are taking about. This is harder in mm when you might not know people's voices I guess, but in goonmans this isn't an issue.

Yeah, true. Knowing who is playing where supercedes precise callouts. That said, in every goonman I've played in on mirage the upper portion of the B site is almost always called "B apps" by whoever is playing there. I think the only goon I've played with who explicitly called it "Halls" is Face.

aksuur
Nov 9, 2003

astr0man posted:

If you want to just go straight to avi the easiest way to do it is to use fraps. If you don't mind doing some extra :effort: you can use startmovie <name> tga wav, which will generate a .tga file for every frame and a wav file with the audio (you won't hear any audio while recording and it will be choppy video while recording, but it works). Then you can use virtualdub to render all the .tga files and the wav into an avi. Fraps is definitely the easiest way to do it, but I tried the tga method for my last ace video and it was ok.

I posted a step by step on the previous page, it's not terribly difficult once you get the process down - you can record directly to avi without any rendering hassle.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

down with slavery posted:

:confused:


:golfclap: on taking your terrible posting to the next level and trying to make it weirdly personal as well. Sorry for being condescending but the ":smug: how can you possible confuse a apartments and b apartments" is just painfully retarded to read and makes me think that you're being condescending in the first place. Don't dish it out if you can't take it and all that.

lol are you made out of dicks or something

Ephedra
Jan 5, 2010

Fight

->Jump<-

Item
When hearing a call there are a few things to take in to considerations. Who made the call, how quickly they made it, how accurate the call was (where and how many(has bomb been spotted)) and who (the player) was spotted if possible. I'm sure I'm missing a few things there but, all of those answers add up to how your teammates should react. Lets all be honest here I think we would all be happy with people just using their mics or having one.

Ephedra fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Feb 24, 2014

Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax
favela is literally the shitiest map ever ahahahaha

worse than ali

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Babyface Mingo posted:

favela is literally the shitiest map ever ahahahaha

worse than ali

Motel is worse.

Far, far worse.

Never leave it in the list when matchmaking. :negative:

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga
At least they fixed that bug on favela where you could stand on the garbage bags in T spawn and crash the server because whoever made the map made every single piece of trash inside the garbage bag an individual prop or something.

Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Favela is just a call of duty map with little to no balance.

You start on B and they get to A before you? laffo, I'd rather play the simpson map competitively than favela

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

astr0man posted:

At least they fixed that bug on favela where you could stand on the garbage bags in T spawn and crash the server because whoever made the map made every single piece of trash inside the garbage bag an individual prop or something.

:lol: Is this for real, because why the gently caress do so many mapmakers think cluttering maps with stupid poo poo like this is a good thing

Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax
I'm so mad about favela i'm going message the map author and calling him a dick

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga

Awesome Welles posted:

:lol: Is this for real, because why the gently caress do so many mapmakers think cluttering maps with stupid poo poo like this is a good thing

Yup. I don't even know how poo poo like that happens because I thought those garbage bags were stock assets already :wtc:

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

Awesome Welles posted:

:lol: Is this for real, because why the gently caress do so many mapmakers think cluttering maps with stupid poo poo like this is a good thing

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Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax
at least motel is remotely enjoyable in the sense that you can just buy shotties and deagles

favela is making me regret spending 3$ and knowing the map author probably got .35 cents

IronDoge
Nov 6, 2008

Does anybody know how to get to the roofs on Favela? Pengy, Daeno, and a couple other guys were in an MM with me on CT side. Near the end of the match the T's just start appearing from the goddamn rooftops and shooting us. I'm suspecting that the dumpster in the small alley near T spawn is how they get there, but I have not been able to find any spots that are boost-able to yet.

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjlqqHUopwg

Bad Luck
May 2, 2012

teagone posted:

I'm just going to call "A apts" palace now. :sigh:

I've always called that place 'hotel'. I've never heard anyone else say it but its never confused anybody either. A apts might be the apartments at A, it might be a dude at B stuttering.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
I personally prefer when people use palace etc to mean A apts

lets be honest griffin, you were being a condescending prick too lmao

Tetramin fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Feb 24, 2014

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
it says PALACE when you're in that place so it would be confusing to me, a seasoned veteran, to call it anything else. PALACE is A, APPS are B, easy enough. Maybe if someone says A APPS though I know where they mean so np there either.

Also my hs % is (or was last I checked) over 50 and I thought that wasn't so good, turns out it's ok?

PROTOSTORM!!!
Oct 24, 2010

astr0man posted:

You should be aware of who is playing where on your team (this goes along with not switching spots). If an A player says "steps apartments" it should be pretty obvious which apartments they are taking about. This is harder in mm when you might not know people's voices I guess, but in goonmans this isn't an issue.

This is in fact wrong as everyone sounds the same except for the one Voice Actor for Machinima that plays Goonmans on the reg.

ScienceAndMusic
Feb 16, 2012

CANNOT STOP SHITPOSTING FOR FIVE MINUTES

So that's how those asshates were doing it last night in a comp match. Too bad they still lost :smug:

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga

stickyfngrdboy posted:

it says PALACE when you're in that place so it would be confusing to me, a seasoned veteran, to call it anything else. PALACE is A, APPS are B, easy enough. Maybe if someone says A APPS though I know where they mean so np there either.

The valve radar names for places are not the same as the normal calls in a lot of cases.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010

astr0man posted:

The valve radar names for places are not the same as the normal calls in a lot of cases.

yeah I know. I was mostly pointing out that, it's ok to call one place two different things if players will know where you mean instantly.

arnbiguous
Feb 2, 2014
Gary’s Answer
The valve call for the alley to the right of CT spawn on motel is "Left Alley"

That's sure not confusing and totally makes any sense

ScienceAndMusic
Feb 16, 2012

CANNOT STOP SHITPOSTING FOR FIVE MINUTES

Theresa Frontpage posted:

The valve call for the alley to the right of CT spawn on motel is "Left Alley"

That's sure not confusing and totally makes any sense

Alley pool side, or alley restaurant side is how we call it but its not much better.

Dvsilverwing
Jan 17, 2009

So why the gently caress is the FBI in a Favela anyway?

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ScienceAndMusic
Feb 16, 2012

CANNOT STOP SHITPOSTING FOR FIVE MINUTES

Dvsilverwing posted:

So why the gently caress is the FBI in a Favela anyway?

Protecting America's freedom.

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