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Doltos posted:I swear to God if I see one more post about rape in this thread I'm going to start posting about WR depth. What's this about rape?
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Toymachine posted:Speaking of which Taylor Lewan is a piece of poo poo like Shembo. Lewan's a loving goon, but let's not compare a delusional idiot teammate to a loving actual rapist.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:22
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Volkerball posted:The Redskins aren't smart. That's why they'll get offered a 2nd from the Texans and be like naaaah. lol If someone offers a 2nd for Kirk Cousins he's gone. The only reason he's still around is because they haven't gotten that kind of an offer.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:24
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smuggler posted:Lewan's a loving goon, but let's not compare a delusional idiot teammate to a loving actual rapist. Actually, since he threatened to rape a girl, I think that's a pretty valid comparison!
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Feb 24, 2014 21:29
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SoE has a really good piece on Robinson and his trip to the combine. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/68258092/auburn-tackle-greg-robinson-was-solid-at-the-nfl-combine
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Feb 24, 2014 21:31
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Redskins take a second yesterday for cousins but he's worth a second like Derek Anderson was worth a first. Nope. Try a 6
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Feb 24, 2014 21:32
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When Cousins started those three games last season he looked like a backup in two* of them. Shocker. *The good game was against the Falcons.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:43
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Declan MacManus posted:Actually, since he threatened to rape a girl, I think that's a pretty valid comparison! I guess in the same way it's valid to compare like Charlie Sheen or Justin Beiber to George Zimmerman.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:48
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I'd say Lewan is more like Brian Kelly than Prince Shembo. Either way, it'd be nice to get through a portion of the thread where every time someone who has done very bad things gets mentioned the next 15 posts are just various ways of saying the bad thing he did. Lewan is a piece of poo poo, no doubt about it, but making GBS threads up the draft thread with it isn't the answer.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:51
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Regnevelc posted:I'd say Lewan is more like Brian Kelly than Prince Shembo. It would die but we are an argumentative people. commy gun posted:lol Would they take a third? Like a high third? Because I can't remember if he was drafted in the third or fourth.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:52
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smuggler posted:I guess in the same way it's valid to compare like Charlie Sheen or Justin Beiber to George Zimmerman. Eh it's more like comparing Jake Long to George Zimmerman
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Feb 24, 2014 21:54
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CharlestheHammer posted:It would die but we are an argumentative people. well actually
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Feb 24, 2014 21:54
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CharlestheHammer posted:Would they take a third? Like a high third? Because I can't remember if he was drafted in the third or fourth. He was a 4th round pick. I don't think they settle for a third since he's very valuable as a back up since RG3 can rack up the boo-boos. 
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Feb 24, 2014 21:56
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Has Jake Long ever threatened to murder someone?
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Feb 24, 2014 21:58
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smuggler posted:Has Jake Long ever threatened to murder someone? Probably Jeff Ireland at some point
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Feb 24, 2014 21:59
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commy gun posted:He was a 4th round pick. I don't think they settle for a third since he's very valuable as a back up since RG3 can rack up the boo-boos. About as valuable as Case Keenum and Matt McGloin.
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Feb 24, 2014 21:59
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smuggler posted:Has Jake Long ever threatened to murder someone? There's a strong suspicion that the guy who said his rifle is good for shooting black people or Jeff Ireland in the Icnognito text message logs was Long Although no it was not a serious threat
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Feb 24, 2014 21:59
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I still can't believe how people are rating Cousins. It's a small sample size but whatever he showed against New York should be heavily astericked. He was behind an o-line that couldn't block anything, in the rain, with most of the team not giving a single poo poo. For a backup he looked more than competent. If the Redskins move him, which they might, I see both sides have equally valid points to trade or keep him, he'd be worth a fourth at least.
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smuggler posted:Has Jake Long ever threatened to murder someone? Black people in general. He was joking, I guess but it was weird. commy gun posted:He was a 4th round pick. I don't think they settle for a third since he's very valuable as a back up since RG3 can rack up the boo-boos. You could use it to pick up AJ, an even more solid backup! Or maybe Boyd!
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Feb 24, 2014 22:00
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Doltos posted:I still can't believe how people are rating Cousins. It's a small sample size but whatever he showed against New York should be heavily astericked. He was behind an o-line that couldn't block anything, in the rain, with most of the team not giving a single poo poo. For a backup he looked more than competent. Isn't his INT rate insane for his attempts? Like one in every 10-15 throws insane?
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Feb 24, 2014 22:01
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1 for every 20 attempts for a 4.9 INT% Mark Sanchez has a 3.7 INT% Matt Schaub THIS SEASON had a 3.9 INT%
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Feb 24, 2014 22:03
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drat Goetta.... you get a gold star.
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Feb 24, 2014 22:03
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Goetta posted:Probably Jeff Ireland at some point That doesn't really qualify as a negative
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Feb 24, 2014 22:05
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Regnevelc posted:Isn't his INT rate insane for his attempts? One in every 20, same as Eli, Carson, and Geno. Other QBs come close to him as well, give or take 5 attempts.
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Feb 24, 2014 22:06
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Intruder posted:1 for every 20 attempts for a 4.9 INT% The funny thing is that his "good" season in 2012 was actually over 6% interception rate, but his passer rating looked good because he threw even more touchdowns. Three guesses which one was probably the fluke.
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Feb 24, 2014 22:06
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Intruder posted:1 for every 20 attempts for a 4.9 INT% Lol. Eli had a 4.9 this season.
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Doltos posted:One in every 20, same as Eli, Carson, and Geno. Other QBs come close to him as well, give or take 5 attempts. That is not good company. poor dude.
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Feb 24, 2014 22:06
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Doltos posted:One in every 20, same as Eli, Carson, and Geno. Other QBs come close to him as well, give or take 5 attempts. Eli is coming off a terrible season. His normal INT% isn't great but it's 3.4 Of course, Cousins is a much smaller sample size as well The only time he's had a worse TD%, INT% or completion% are his rookie year (and for completion, 2007 which is funny)
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I think QBs with very small sample sizes are viewed pretty skeptically around the league these days and are probably not that valuable unless a team gets super desperate. Matt Flynn is sort of the poster child for it and Kolb was a pretty big bust as well. Who is the last backup QB like this to move to another team and do really well with a big contract? Schaub? I am probably missing someone super obvious
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Feb 24, 2014 22:08
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Goetta posted:SoE has a really good piece on Robinson and his trip to the combine. He seems like a cool dude. I'd love for him to fall to the Bears. I know we need defense, but imagining what Kromer could do with him makes me hard.
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CharlestheHammer posted:That is not good company. It's not but 8 tds and 10 ints over backup duty as a fourth round pick on an organization who focused all of it's attention on the QB picked three rounds in front of you is pretty darn good.
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Goetta posted:I think QBs with very small sample sizes are viewed pretty skeptically around the league these days and are probably not that valuable unless a team gets super desperate. Matt Flynn is sort of the poster child for it and Kolb was a pretty big bust as well. Who is the last backup QB like this to move to another team and do really well with a big contract? Schaub? Favre  (Well ok he wasn't the last one)
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Feb 24, 2014 22:10
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Holy poo poo, Flacco's is only 3.6%. Not bad for worst of his career.
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Doltos posted:It's not but 8 tds and 10 ints over backup duty as a fourth round pick on an organization who focused all of it's attention on the QB picked three rounds in front of you is pretty darn good. No it isn't good. It isn't bad really either, it just isn't anything substantive that makes you want to fork good picks over for.
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I thought the narrative for Flacco was that he fumbles a lotGoetta posted:No it isn't good. It isn't bad really either, it just isn't anything substantive that makes you want to fork good picks over for. It's nothing at all. It's 200 attempts
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Feb 24, 2014 22:10
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I refuse to believe enough people care about Flacco for a narrative to form.
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^^^Break Baltimore's rookie QB curse,How does he deal with early success, Can he compete with the best, is he elite, Can he win a superbowl, Superbowl MVP, Can he lead a team Literally every year Flacco has a New narrative crafted about him in the off-season Maybe first three years in the league but lately he's been fine in that regard. I think that Troy Polamalu game winning strip sack creates a narrative. That was the worst birthday ever. The Puppy Bowl fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Goetta posted:No it isn't good. It isn't bad really either, it just isn't anything substantive that makes you want to fork good picks over for. I mean yeah it's not enough sample size but in the NFL that's really freaking good considering the circumstances. How many backup QBs come in and completely melt down, not even throwing a TD and completely destroying whatever chances the team has of winning? Winning A game in the NFL is usually good enough to get you signed as a potential starter or even sought after in trades.
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Feb 24, 2014 22:13
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Haha remember when Buffalo gave Ryan Fitzpatrick $24m guaranteed I almost forgot about that
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Small Sample Sizes yall, it's what gives the world Flynnsanity.
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