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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I've only just started Persona 3(Just got Fuuka), and beyond that and about 1/3 of the Persona 4 LP, I barely know anything about Persona. What was so bad/different about Persona 1? 1 and 2 were basically normal JRPGs which at the time they were made meant EXTREMELY slow combat and a generic plot with not a ton to do between boss fights. It was in 3 when the high school life management aspects came in, and social links (I think?) and other things that make Persona what we think of now, as well as generally had more interesting writing and characters and the like.
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I wouldn't say that the storyline to any of the Persona's was standard jRPG fare. I mean, Persona 1 wasn't great, but it was pretty rare to play as contemporary highschool students in a bustling city.
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Daius posted:Hey Nancy, I'm back from my school's field trip to the Twin Cities. I bought you this lamp. You open the fridge and see a half empty 3 liter of Rock 'n Rye. The cap is missing. Drink it? >Yes It's flat. You decide to go to bed early.
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Human posted:I wouldn't say that the storyline to any of the Persona's was standard jRPG fare. I mean, Persona 1 wasn't great, but it was pretty rare to play as contemporary highschool students in a bustling city. Fair point I forgot how rare modern/vaguely cyberpunk themes were in JRPGs, yea the stories weren't great but even in 1 and 2 they were trying new things, and that's good.
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Overbite posted:You open the fridge and see a half empty 3 liter of Rock 'n Rye. The cap is missing. Drink it? |-------------------------------------| |You spend the day Shitposting Online. | |-------------------------------------|
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Feb 25, 2014 03:51
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Yodzilla posted:Patrick just retweeted this re: Thief 4. This is when game journalists should start digging and interviewing these people. But nope all we ever get are hype and puff pieces. No preview can ever be bad, maybe in a couple of years in a post mortem or something
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hey man you got a retweet what more do you want
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Yeah who knows what was signed by whom and what kind of retaliation that brings, not to mention ever wanting to work with people ever again. Patrick is good at getting stories where there are stories to be got but yeah post-mortems are the best bet we usually have. I loving love a good post-mortem, good game or bad.
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Feb 25, 2014 04:03
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Thief, from the acclaimed writer of Mirror's Edge and Tomb Raider.
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BARONS GAMES WHINER posted:|-------------------------------------| Persona 4 if you played as Mitsuo
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cronox2 posted:Thief, from the acclaimed writer of Mirror's Edge and Tomb Raider. Rhianna Pratchett has never worked on anything that had a good story, but she was also one of the top backers on the Idle Thumbs kickstarter so she's p. cool 
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Feb 25, 2014 04:11
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JuHoZ posted:I thought Tomb Raider was pretty good It was but it didn't have a good story.
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Looks like tomorrow is a pretty stacked day content-wise on Giants Bomb.
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Yeah the tomb raider story was pretty boring mystical force thing. The shooting is the only thing the game does well.
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Hakkesshu posted:Rhianna Pratchett has never worked on anything that had a good story, but she was also one of the top backers on the Idle Thumbs kickstarter so she's p. cool Prince of Persia and Overlord were pretty good?
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Yodzilla posted:Patrick just retweeted this re: Thief 4. She's definitely not the kind of writer her father was, that's for sure.
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Rookersh posted:Prince of Persia and Overlord were pretty good? I've been playing through Prince of Persia for the first time, and I'm continually struck by the parallels to Enslaved. Unlike Enslaved, I like the characters in Prince of Persia and can understand their relationship and motivations. Like Enslaved, the combat is really dumb and repetitive. The platforming is flashier than the "jump on the orange thing" platforming of Enslaved, but it's pretty similarly toothless. In conclusion, Rhianna Pratchett's games have dumb video game stories, but cool characters. Also, Enslaved is bad and I do not like it.
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Yodzilla posted:Yeah who knows what was signed by whom and what kind of retaliation that brings, not to mention ever wanting to work with people ever again. Patrick is good at getting stories where there are stories to be got but yeah post-mortems are the best bet we usually have. Nothing bothers me more then this garbage. It's just so god drat dumb that it is this way when no other industry is. Film companies never said "No Roger Ebert if you say a bad thing we will never let you watch our movies" because he wasn't willing to be intimidated by everything. No one is ever going to respect video game "journalism" when everyone is afraid to do actual journalism on potentially interesting things. Like when Microsoft just up and did a 180 on every single policy for the xbone. That's something that warrants some investigation on what caused all that and where it started but nope can't do that because someone might tattle on you then Microsoft won't give you interviews. It's loving stupid. Or like Irrational just dissolving out of nowhere and looking very much like Ken Levine just fired everyone. Will we see any journalism in investigating what the gently caress that was about? Nope Levine might not give us an interview but we talked to him once about his video games and he seemed like a cool dude so he's probably fine. Meanwhile in actual journalism oh accusations of racism against world famous and multi-millionaire Paula Deen? Let's investigate who is behind this, who said these things, what actually happened, and what this means. And that's just a loving story on a tv chef.
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BARONS GAMES WHINER posted:She's definitely not the kind of writer her father was, that's for sure. Wait, was? You can't tell me Terry Pratchett is dead, there's no way.
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Journalists can rag on Paula Deen for her racism because there's not a single thing she can do or deny them resources to their newspaper. You can't say the same for a gaming site, who has a very narrow subject and resource to said specific subject.
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randombattle posted:No one is ever going to respect video game "journalism" when everyone is afraid to do actual journalism on potentially interesting things. Uh I think the retaliation would apply more to the sources for a story like that than the journalist that would write it.
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DannyHibiki posted:Uh I think the retaliation would apply more to the sources for a story like that than the journalist that would write it. So what you are saying is we need a wikileaks for videogames!?
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Manatee Cannon posted:Wait, was? You can't tell me Terry Pratchett is dead, there's no way. He's not, but he's also, depressingly, not a very good writer anymore. His latest book was a bit of a let down but it's pretty understandable why. He's still one of the greatest fantasy writers ever.
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Whiteycar posted:So what you are saying is we need a wikileaks for videogames!? I dunno. Most people don't really like airing dirty laundry though.
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DannyHibiki posted:Uh I think the retaliation would apply more to the sources for a story like that than the journalist that would write it. Anonymous sources remaining anonymous have been the oldest tool of actual journalism since the first time a cave man sat down and went "I should really look into this story more so other people can know about it."
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It's harder to stay anonymous in a small industry like video games.
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Patrick Klepek: bad journalist or worst journalist? You decide.
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randombattle posted:Anonymous sources remaining anonymous have been the oldest tool of actual journalism since the first time a cave man sat down and went "I should really look into this story more so other people can know about it." Yeah that's uh...a pretty basic part of the whole thing. I don't get why everything has to get thrown out the window when it comes to covering games. People have done this before with a whole lot of other topics. DannyHibiki posted:It's harder to stay anonymous in a small industry like video games. Harder than what? It's hard to stay anonymous anywhere, and not all investigative journalism goes after Halliburton. I dunno, I'm more inclined to think that people don't want to risk their jobs over a hot video game scoop but then again not all journalism is about earth-shattering topics.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Patrick Klepek: bad journalist or worst journalist? You decide. Not a journalist as he keeps trying to tell people.
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BARONS GAMES WHINER posted:Not a journalist as he keeps trying to tell people. Yeah right! They don't call him Scoops because of how well he can make an ice cream cone.
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I don't have a strong opinion on this topic but Alex had a funny moment today related to this: "I'm not a journalist! I write about video games!"
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DannyHibiki posted:It's harder to stay anonymous in a small industry like video games. There's way more people in a single video game company than in a single political office and they seem to not have much of a problem communicating with journalists. It's clear there is a lack of anything resembling journalism on one side and no desire to share information on the other side. Either one could push the other into changing a bit but no one will ever even attempt to change anything because 99% of them are too busy with fluff pieces featuring lovely New Yorker style artwork while patting themselves on the back for being such awesome journalists. Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Patrick Klepek: bad journalist or worst journalist? You decide. Patrick Klepek is an entertainer not a journalist as he has stated before.
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Arstan posted:I've been playing through Prince of Persia for the first time, and I'm continually struck by the parallels to Enslaved. Unlike Enslaved, I like the characters in Prince of Persia and can understand their relationship and motivations. Well. I'm going to spoil the ending here, so you might not want to read this, but to defend what I said. Overlord was great just due to the nature of what happened and why. A party of 8 went into that tower, with each character being a DnD hero type. You had a rogue, a wizard, a warrior, a paladin, etc. After leaving, they all picked up one of the seven deadly sins, the paladin became lustful, the elf sloth, etc. So you go around the land killing all these people for being dicks, and stealing their poo poo. The funny part is, if you go through all the DnD archtypes and apply them to the bosses you fight, the last party member, ie you, must have been the groups bard. So it's also a direct wink/nod to the old Bards Tale games, because you are a raging rear end in a top hat bard with an army of minions murdering your way across the countryside. It's not the most compelling plot, but in terms of fantasy/video games, it's pretty well done. It's the closest she's done to her fathers work at least, albeit a lite version. Prince of Persia is mainly good for the ending. Well, the ending before the epilogue, which she didn't write. Because you gently caress it all up, you ruin everything, and you let the world burn so you can reverse the heroic sacrifice of the other character. It's the perfect gently caress you moment, as you get to watch the world be saved, the watch it all burn seconds later because your character is a horrible piece of poo poo.
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Jabronie posted:I don't have a strong opinion on this topic but Alex had a funny moment today related to this: "I'm not a journalist! I write about video games!"
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