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Artificer posted:So if I, as a 15 day old newbie, hop into a cruiser or something...? You'll be given 50m when it dies. With a t1 fit, that's probably double what you paid for it. With a fully t2 fit and ACRs and every bell and whistle imaginable, you're probably still coming out ahead, especially if you insured.
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Voyager I posted:Graviton Physics just became the best PvE skill in the game.  Suddenly, suicide is the only option.
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Feb 26, 2014 00:37
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Faction frigate reimbursement is still 25m, so even with the doubling you'd still eat most of the cost. Sorry. I'm pretty happy with the announcement, it'll allow me to fly my Jaguar whenever, although I might just get it blown up so I can buy a Keres
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Feb 26, 2014 00:38
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Fix Lag posted:
The downside is that our stratops will probably have no dictors left after first contact with the enemy.
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Feb 26, 2014 00:41
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I can't wait for some idiot to be caught trying to repeat self-destruct for profit and be booted.
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Feb 26, 2014 01:02
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Unless something has changed you still gotta post a killmail to get reimbursed. Any retard dumb enough to self destruct in an attempt to defraud would be caught before they even got money.
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Feb 26, 2014 01:09
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Elmnt80 posted:Groon is a lowsec shell corp for Goonswarm and totally not an irrelevant syndicate alliance with no ties to the CFC outside of blue standings with goonswarm because of goon solidarity or some poo poo. Is this the guy I scammed or was this someone else's victim?! Did the tears I caused embody themselves in the form of a Reddit post? 
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Feb 26, 2014 01:10
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Self-destructing doesn't generate a killmail that you could link for reimbursement. This doesn't mean nobody will try it; it just means they're going to end up silently burying their shame.
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Feb 26, 2014 01:11
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Chomp8645 posted:I can't wait for some idiot to be caught trying to repeat self-destruct for profit and be booted. I'd say nobody's that stupid, but several people have been kicked for taking all of the ESS money, despite it sending an evemail to everyone who contributed telling them who took it.
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Feb 26, 2014 01:14
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Artificer posted:So if I, as a 15 day old newbie, hop into a cruiser or something...? Lead yourself and 50 more newbies to glorious deaths.
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Feb 26, 2014 01:15
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Alchenar posted:I'd say nobody's that stupid, but several people have been kicked for taking all of the ESS money, despite it sending an evemail to everyone who contributed telling them who took it. Holy poo poo, people are really that dumb?...
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Feb 26, 2014 01:19
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Cerebral Wolf posted:Holy poo poo, people are really that dumb?... I didn't know that it did the Evemail thing.
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Feb 26, 2014 01:24
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Oh man, if i was losing a ton of dictors before...
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Feb 26, 2014 01:26
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MITTENS, ETERNAL CEO OF MY HEART Time to start training for a sabre Edit: How many sabre deaths does it take to pay for an aeon this is inportant
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Feb 26, 2014 01:31
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Kheldragar posted:I didn't know that it did the Evemail thing. Read the fine print ;p
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Feb 26, 2014 01:40
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I was debating whether to spend this month training Gallente Cruiser V or Interdictors. I see now that I've made the wrong choice. 
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Feb 26, 2014 01:41
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Voyager I posted:The downside is that our stratops will probably have no dictors left after first contact with the enemy. Considering there's like six dudes in the alliance that can actually fly one effectively I'm not entirely sure how this changes anything.
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Feb 26, 2014 02:02
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Rhymenoserous posted:Considering there's like six dudes in the alliance that can actually fly one effectively I'm not entirely sure how this changes anything. Quantity is a type of quality.
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Feb 26, 2014 02:12
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Voyager I posted:Blow up > receive 50 million > repeat I thought it required certain fits and skill levels to get reimbursed?
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Feb 26, 2014 02:22
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Artificer posted:I thought it required certain fits and skill levels to get reimbursed? Not for peacetime. Just don't have a retarded fit and you'll be fine.
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Feb 26, 2014 02:31
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All I'm gunna see after the pirate frigs changes ...... Worms and curior's everywhere in FW :-/
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Feb 26, 2014 02:31
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A serious-business fleet flies specific ships with specific fittings and will typically have basic skill requirements for reimbursement, at least on the more expensive ships (we also have strategic support fleets for newbies that have very easy-to-train fits and no skill requirements). However, general "loving around in space" ships aren't subject to such strict scrutiny. Something expensive might require T2 guns or get denied for a terrible fit, but the kind of things you'll fly as a newbie are basically guaranteed reimbursement.
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Feb 26, 2014 02:40
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About a week after I grind up into T2 lasers, we drop Ammar from main fleet doctrine. Now the golden banana is back after four years, and a 100% bonus to reimbursement too? I just might get back into fleets, shooting poo poo with my lasers.
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Feb 26, 2014 02:49
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Mimetic posted:I was debating whether to spend this month training Gallente Cruiser V or Interdictors. I see now that I've made the wrong choice. Pfft, you can't make the wrong choice there. Either way is a win. (well training speed loss aside since they are inverted for stats. Perception/Will power vs. Willpower/Perception for primary/secondary)
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Feb 26, 2014 02:53
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TipsyMcStagger posted:Pfft, you can't make the wrong choice there. Either way is a win. (well training speed loss aside since they are inverted for stats. Perception/Will power vs. Willpower/Perception for primary/secondary) It's not a very big gulf is you're perc/will anyway. I trained every t2 combat hull to 5 with per/will and it wasn't very bad.
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Feb 26, 2014 02:59
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HelloSailorSign posted:Not for peacetime. Just don't have a retarded fit and you'll be fine. Even t1 cruisers can probably have a shitfit and still get reimbursed, its just usually t2 and faction ships that have a requirement of being t2 fit.
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Feb 26, 2014 03:33
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So besides tackling frigates, what's something cheap to fly for what's coming up? I have HACs, recons, interceptors, covops, and AFs for minmatar, caldari, and gallente (mostly the former two) but flying around in a 50-200m ship on day 1 doesn't strike me as a good idea. Is the fyf celestis going to get much use or is that mostly for war time large fleet stuff?
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Feb 26, 2014 03:40
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padijun posted:So besides tackling frigates, what's something cheap to fly for what's coming up? I have HACs, recons, interceptors, covops, and AFs for minmatar, caldari, and gallente (mostly the former two) but flying around in a 50-200m ship on day 1 doesn't strike me as a good idea. Is the fyf celestis going to get much use or is that mostly for war time large fleet stuff? Depends on what squads you join, but Harpies and interceptors are relatively cheap and super fun, not to mention you make 90m and 70m in reimbursement respectively. FYF is generally for larger fleets but individual celestii are still valuable ships to bring to small gangs.
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Feb 26, 2014 03:51
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padijun posted:Is the fyf celestis going to get much use or is that mostly for war time large fleet stuff? I hope FYF gets used a lot since the forces of ~elite PvP~ hate it so much but you can take a Celestis on just about any fleet that gets formed that's not frigates only.
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Feb 26, 2014 03:52
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Rhymenoserous posted:Considering there's like six dudes in the alliance that can actually fly one effectively I'm not entirely sure how this changes anything. This will probably bring back a lot of old-timers who used to fly dictors all the time and then switched to something else when their clones got too expensive to suicide several times on every fleet op.
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Feb 26, 2014 03:53
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bonewitch posted:Depends on what squads you join, but Harpies and interceptors are relatively cheap and super fun, not to mention you make 90m and 70m in reimbursement respectively. FYF is generally for larger fleets but individual celestii are still valuable ships to bring to small gangs. I haven't done anything fleet related since we lived in syndicate, so I think I'll stick to celestiseses for now. I just got mumble set up. Currently working on getting my overview unfucked.
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Feb 26, 2014 04:00
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Oh that CEO update is loving beautiful. I'm about 2 weeks away from flying my dream ship (Vagabond) and I was a little worried about how I was going to fund more than a few of them under peacetime reimbursement. Now I can lose them all day and come out ahead. I am giddy as hell. I forgot about my arty wolves... Oh God the arty wolves. 
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Feb 26, 2014 04:09
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Stealth bombers being reimbursed 90M is going to be odd. We already lose several to AFKs, pos guns, etc., per op.
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Feb 26, 2014 04:17
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Nietzschean posted:Stealth bombers being reimbursed 90M is going to be odd. We already lose several to AFKs, pos guns, etc., per op. Our Newbees are going to get rich getting nuked in Celestis aren't they? This is the best day ever.  Edit: I'm going to faction fit everything.
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Feb 26, 2014 04:20
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I guess this is what happens when we give in to the horrible evil of using renters for money.
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Feb 26, 2014 06:01
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Fix Lag posted:I guess this is what happens when we give in to the horrible evil of using renters for money. We are literally space bourgeoise now. This is better than the technetium empire.
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Feb 26, 2014 06:08
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We are BoB 
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Feb 26, 2014 06:21
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Every time I welp in FW space, I learn some tiny fraction of how to pvp.
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Feb 26, 2014 06:24
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deadtear posted:We are BoB Countdown to Haargoth
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i do cocaine posted:We are literally space bourgeoise now. This is better than the technetium empire. "Then let them fly caps."
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