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It's reaching a point where I can't even pretend conservatives are good people who are simply misguided anymore. All I hear is hatred and anger at people who are weaker and more vulnerable then them and anyone who still willingly associates themselves with the current right wing movement is really starting to run out of excuses as to why they aren't simply just terrible human beings who actively want to make people's lives worse. I hate thinking that way because I know it isn't remotely true and that a large portion of the right wing are just misguided people too tired and busy to pay any attention beyond the soundbites but even then I don't think that's proving to be enough of an excuse anymore. Media as a whole has reached a point so far beyond simple propaganda that I really hope a bunch of people a whole lot smarter then me come up with something to fix it without relying on government censorship because the amount of pure lies and spite flowing out of mass media should without a doubt be illegal as it is ruining just as many, if not more lives then any other number of crimes.
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beatlegs posted:So Rush wants more black babies to be born, yet doesn't want them to vote (at least in consequential numbers) or have any significant political influence over society, or be protected from discrimination or inequality by the state. Excuse me, taxation without representation is why our country was founded. He just wants to water the tree a little bit. That's why he supports open carry laws. A gigantic picture Holy hell  , how do I make images fit the size of posts?
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Shbobdb posted:Excuse me, taxation without representation is why our country was founded. He just wants to water the tree a little bit. That's why he supports open carry laws. [timg] Will make it auto-adjust.
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Feb 26, 2014 05:31
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Rip Testes posted:Maybe I haven't been paying attention enough, but what is with the sudden uptick of conservative radio hosts trying to shrug off legitimate concerns of racism by sarcastically self-referencing conservatives as racists? Today filling in for Herman Cain was another Atlanta host, Eric Ericson, who apparently gets name dropped by Rush, and most of his schtick revolved around this. There was one moment where he had a story about Bush or Cheney and before even getting to whatever point he may have been trying to make, he prefaced his remarks with something along the lines of 'because we like Bush or Cheney and are white republicans that makes us 'racists' (insert rolleyes). I mean, it kind of is the actual definition of racist, but geezus was it still ever irritating to listen to. Sean Hannity had a segment on his radio program today about race and just asking why when you have a conservative African-American (I'm not sure what term he actually used) they get called all sorts of racist stuff by THE LEFT and the NAACP is all crickets and tumbleweeds. Days after Chris Mapp talks about shooting wetbacks is not the best time to play the race card dudes. I mean how is this even forward thinking? They only really have a year to try convince people they aren't misogynists, and 6 years tops to convince the hispanic voters that they don't hate them, you would think the talking heads would employ a little strategy. They lost the black race card the second the right rallied around "Magic Negro", at least lie in a way that might be strategic in the near term.
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Feb 26, 2014 05:35
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Rip Testes posted:Maybe I haven't been paying attention enough, but what is with the sudden uptick of conservative radio hosts trying to shrug off legitimate concerns of racism by sarcastically self-referencing conservatives as racists? Today filling in for Herman Cain was another Atlanta host, Eric Ericson, who apparently gets name dropped by Rush, and most of his schtick revolved around this. There was one moment where he had a story about Bush or Cheney and before even getting to whatever point he may have been trying to make, he prefaced his remarks with something along the lines of 'because we like Bush or Cheney and are white republicans that makes us 'racists' (insert rolleyes). I mean, it kind of is the actual definition of racist, but geezus was it still ever irritating to listen to. Sean Hannity had a segment on his radio program today about race and just asking why when you have a conservative African-American (I'm not sure what term he actually used) they get called all sorts of racist stuff by THE LEFT and the NAACP is all crickets and tumbleweeds. This has been part of the playbook for a while. If you get enough people eyerolling at basic human decency and dismissing it as political correctness gone mad, you make accusations of racism/sexism/etc. look less legitimate.
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Feb 26, 2014 06:56
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Every time our local AM "independent" host talks about Obamacare he mentions that when anyone criticizes it they are called racist by the left. It would seem that it's a thing they are doing and the Dr.Zepplin makes a good point as to why.
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Feb 26, 2014 14:47
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Rip Testes posted:Maybe I haven't been paying attention enough, but what is with the sudden uptick of conservative radio hosts trying to shrug off legitimate concerns of racism by sarcastically self-referencing conservatives as racists? Today filling in for Herman Cain was another Atlanta host, Eric Ericson, who apparently gets name dropped by Rush, and most of his schtick revolved around this. There was one moment where he had a story about Bush or Cheney and before even getting to whatever point he may have been trying to make, he prefaced his remarks with something along the lines of 'because we like Bush or Cheney and are white republicans that makes us 'racists' (insert rolleyes). I mean, it kind of is the actual definition of racist, but geezus was it still ever irritating to listen to. Sean Hannity had a segment on his radio program today about race and just asking why when you have a conservative African-American (I'm not sure what term he actually used) they get called all sorts of racist stuff by THE LEFT and the NAACP is all crickets and tumbleweeds. They're just trying to paint themselves as the victims again by playing the "well we like this guy but you're mad that we like him, he just HAPPENS TO BE a white Republican man." What they won't admit is that part of the reason they like the guy is because he's a wealthy, white, Republican, Christian man. That's pretty racist, you know. Saying that "he's automatically better because of what he is." Genuinely liking a white person isn't racism if you would like them the same amount if they were not white. The GOP would not like Bush or Cheney if they were not white. That's why they're racists.
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Feb 26, 2014 18:42
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I love that picture. It's every conservative's worst nightmare, and yet it's probably the boldest Second Amendment-relate protest we've had. Also the most legitimate: they had every reason to fear the government using disarmament to further subjugate blacks.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:03
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More to the point, they would be relatively happy with Obama if he was lily white and not president. I guess relatively it would be more like in love with him but that has more to do with how lovely they are than anything else.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:13
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Genuinely liking a white person isn't racism if you would like them the same amount if they were not white. The GOP would not like Bush or Cheney if they were not white. That's why they're racists. This is a pretty stupid opinion. The right LOVES African-Americans like Herman Cain and esteemed Dr. Ben Carson. The problem is that the right supports policies that hurt blacks more than whites, for a multitude of reasons only a few of which are explicitly racist. Painting your enemies as simplistic caricatures is a great way to find yourself ignored.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:25
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It's not like these two examples racial idiocy by the GOP are mutually exclusive. They are demonstrable racists in policy, in subconscious and in the street.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:43
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rakovsky maybe posted:This is a pretty stupid opinion. The right LOVES African-Americans like Herman Cain and esteemed Dr. Ben Carson. The problem is that the right supports policies that hurt blacks more than whites, for a multitude of reasons only a few of which are explicitly racist. Painting your enemies as simplistic caricatures is a great way to find yourself ignored. I'm pretty sure Herman Cain is the GOP's token black guy. They only keep him around because he agrees with pretty much everything they do and they can point to him and say "See? I'm not racist, I have this black guy here. The GOP is totally inclusive and loves everybody!" I don't normally paint the people I disagree with as simplistic caricatures but I don't see how it's possible to NOT do that with the GOP. It's a gigantic echo chamber of "gently caress everybody that isn't like me." Look at their talking heads, look at their politicians, look at their voting patterns, look at where the funding comes from. It's the party of old, rich, white guys rigging the system to benefit old, rich, white guys.
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Feb 26, 2014 20:12
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I'm pretty sure Herman Cain is the GOP's token black guy. They only keep him around because he agrees with pretty much everything they do and they can point to him and say "See? I'm not racist, I have this black guy here. The GOP is totally inclusive and loves everybody!" They've pretty much completely traded away Herman Cain for Ben Carson now. Michael Steele is still my favorite hastily chosen token black republican.
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Feb 26, 2014 20:17
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Good Citizen posted:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside form the hilarious similarities to a muppet and interesting verbal gaffes (and the BDSM club location for a meeting), wasn't he a tremendously effective RNC chair?
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OAquinas posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside form the hilarious similarities to a muppet and interesting verbal gaffes (and the BDSM club location for a meeting), wasn't he a tremendously effective RNC chair?
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Feb 26, 2014 20:29
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OAquinas posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside form the hilarious similarities to a muppet and interesting verbal gaffes (and the BDSM club location for a meeting), wasn't he a tremendously effective RNC chair? Yeah, he wasn't all that bad. The timing was mostly what made it funny. Hilary fell out of the race and all of a sudden Palin pops up out of no where. Obama became president and then oh look, here comes Michael Steele! It was the golden age of transparent tokenism.
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Feb 26, 2014 20:32
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rakovsky maybe posted:This is a pretty stupid opinion. The right LOVES African-Americans like Herman Cain and esteemed Dr. Ben Carson. The problem is that the right supports policies that hurt blacks more than whites, for a multitude of reasons only a few of which are explicitly racist. Painting your enemies as simplistic caricatures is a great way to find yourself ignored. They only "love" them because it makes an easy out against accusations of racism. Neither of them would be known at all if they weren't black because they would just be generic FYGM white guys who couldn't be exploited for political points.
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Feb 26, 2014 20:34
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mr. mephistopheles posted:They only "love" them because it makes an easy out against accusations of racism. Neither of them would be known at all if they weren't black because they would just be generic FYGM white guys who couldn't be exploited for political points. I actually disagree! Herman "9-9-9" Cain certainly would have made waves, I think.
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Feb 26, 2014 20:48
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If that was true Papa John would be the public face of the Anti-ACA effort.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I don't normally paint the people I disagree with as simplistic caricatures but I don't see how it's possible to NOT do that with the GOP. It's a gigantic echo chamber of "gently caress everybody that isn't like me." Look at their talking heads, look at their politicians, look at their voting patterns, look at where the funding comes from. It's the party of old, rich, white guys rigging the system to benefit old, rich, white guys. I strongly encourage you then to go outside and maybe talk to a real Republican rather than getting all your news from D&D. mr. mephistopheles posted:They only "love" them because it makes an easy out against accusations of racism. Neither of them would be known at all if they weren't black because they would just be generic FYGM white guys who couldn't be exploited for political points. Zealousness with the word "racist" is quickly rendering it about as politically useful and descriptive as the word "fascist". Conservative policies absolutely are racist but most of the rank-and-file aren't actively trying to hurt black people, they're trying to hold onto what they have left as modern finance capitalism sweeps it out from under their feet.
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rakovsky maybe posted:I strongly encourage you then to go outside and maybe talk to a real Republican rather than getting all your news from D&D. I dunno man, he has a pretty accurate picture of all the real Republicans I've talked to.
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rakovsky maybe posted:I strongly encourage you then to go outside and maybe talk to a real Republican rather than getting all your news from D&D. I know a whole lot, they act and talk exactly as it's portrayed in D&D. Maybe a little more freaking out about Common Core than I see here but beyond that it's pretty accurate. See look at that, anecdotes for everybody. I'm sure you have some super secret stash of Real America Knowledge I Have Gleaned By Being a True Critical Thinker you can drop on us, though, so please go ahead.
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The Republicans who aren't like that are legitimate RINOs who would vote Democrat if they didn't have the ideological block that Democrats are bad.
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Sorry for double post, on phone.rakovsky maybe posted:Zealousness with the word "racist" is quickly rendering it about as politically useful and descriptive as the word "fascist". Conservative policies absolutely are racist but most of the rank-and-file aren't actively trying to hurt black people, they're trying to hold onto what they have left as modern finance capitalism sweeps it out from under their feet. This is the same semantic "we were disenfranchising Democrat voters, not specifically black voters" bullshit. If their policies hurt minorities disproportionately, and they purposely motivate poor white racists to vote using dog whistles about thugs and lazy Wellfare recipients, then why does it matter if they are racist or Racists? What word are we supposed to use to describe racist policies so that we can preserve the value of the word racist so it can properly applied to more racist things in the future? This is a loving ridiculous argument and the only reason the accusation is losing it's edge is because conservatives know how to play their base like a fiddle, and propping up ludicrous black candidates like Herman Cain and Mia Love is a big part of that strategy. Ben Carson is a potentially legitimate candidate, but he wouldn't have his current national profile if he was white.
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Feb 26, 2014 21:56
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Mia Love has a much higher chance of being elected to a federal office than Ben Carson.
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FMguru posted:The exact opposite. He was tremendously ineffective, RNC fundraising cratered, and he had his budgetary authority taken away from him shortly after being appointed. His greatest sin was challenging the legitimacy of the GOP's true thought leader - Rush Limbaugh.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Every time our local AM "independent" host talks about Obamacare he mentions that when anyone criticizes it they are called racist by the left. It would seem that it's a thing they are doing and the Dr.Zepplin makes a good point as to why. quote:RUSH: Here's Patty in Longview, Texas. Patty, I'm glad you called. Great to have you on the program. Hello. therealracists.txt
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comes along bort posted:Mia Love has a much higher chance of being elected to a federal office than Ben Carson. Based on? She's crazy as poo poo and couldn't even win a House seat in Utah. Yeah, she lost by relatively few votes, but Utah is blood red. Ben Carson is incredibly well-spoken and great at pandering. I personally don't think he is interested in running for anything and prefers the money and easiness of being a commentator/orator, but I think he could get elected if he ran. Does he have some problems I'm not aware of?
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Based on? She's crazy as poo poo and couldn't even win a House seat in Utah. Yeah, she lost by relatively few votes, but Utah is blood red. Based on Matheson dropping out and she's favored to win her primary this year. Due to redistricting its her race to lose. See also: Bachmann, Crazyface.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Based on? Jim Matheson's retiring.
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Crossposting this from the Marriage Equality thread because it's just golden. For reference, the Texas ban on gay marriage was struck down as unconstitutional today (though a stay was issued) and Dan Patrick is the Lt. Governor of Texas: Read very closely and see if you can spot the typo. 
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Patrick is just a state senator still. He's running for the Lieutenant Governor position against incumbent David Dewhurst, Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, and definitely-not-pointing-a-gun-at-Obama Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples.
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Alkydere posted:
Is it that there should be a space between "MARRIAGE" and the equal sign? 
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Nice Davis posted:Patrick is just a state senator still. He's running for the Lieutenant Governor position against incumbent David Dewhurst, Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, and definitely-not-pointing-a-gun-at-Obama Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples. I actually am a bit more sympathetic about this habit (of Republicans waving guns in the president's general direction), in that I don't think they understand what they're doing at all. I think it's less about insurrection, less about callback to lynching, and more about their mind-boggling and profound lack of respect for guns, and for important things in general. The president is a stand-in for everything they hate, and the firearm is a stand-in for all the positive qualities they do not possess, and also for hope and grace and confidence. I think if anything they're asserting their right to be impulsive, drunk, manchildren and never have to consider anything or anyone before parading their impressive ignorance and taking a dump on everyone's lawn. If this is not accurate, they need to spew bullshit less. If you go misrepresenting yourself in politics, you can count on your opponents misrepresenting you ten times worse.
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Nice Davis posted:Patrick is just a state senator still. He's running for the Lieutenant Governor position against incumbent David Dewhurst, Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, and definitely-not-pointing-a-gun-at-Obama Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples. It's like a loving SNL skit. The next clip would be him discussing what went wrong with the ad in front of his campaign advisors. I literally can't stop laughing.
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Anyone who wants some conservative on conservative violence Jerry Doyle is currently trashing the Arizona legislation and the people who support it. He said they need to gently caress off to their little nutjob corner and leave people alone.
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nachos posted:CNN has Ted Nugent on their home page with the line "Is this Mr. America?" Dead or in jail remember.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Anyone who wants some conservative on conservative violence Jerry Doyle is currently trashing the Arizona legislation and the people who support it. He said they need to gently caress off to their little nutjob corner and leave people alone. He might be a crazy right-winger, but it's nice to know that Mr. Garabaldi isn't a total piece of poo poo. Edit: With Jan Brewer vetoing the GLBT discrimination bill in Arizona and the federal judge tossing Texas' gay marriage ban, I can not loving wait to listen to all of the wailing on right-wing talk radio tomorrow. Zeroisanumber fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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