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So opened a foil Champion of Stray Souls last night and was laughing at how bad a mythic it is, but apparently even the SCG buylist price for it is like 4 bucks.  Is anything big stupid and foil automatically a >$5 card because EDH?
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Feb 26, 2014 15:24
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Entropic posted:So opened a foil Champion of Stray Souls last night and was laughing at how bad a mythic it is, but apparently even the SCG buylist price for it is like 4 bucks. Yes, it's exactly because of EDH. This is actually a good thing, as the more value there is in a set, the more spread out the costs are (so we don't have just one or two cards upholding the set's price tag).
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Feb 26, 2014 15:27
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ungulateman posted:Some day I will make Angelic Accord work and my infinite (read: one per turn) army of angels will beat everybody's face in. Strionic Resonator will make it 2 a turn!
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Feb 26, 2014 15:37
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mehall posted:Strionic Resonator will make it 2 a turn! Couple it with Angelic Chorus and it is a fairly definite combo.
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Feb 26, 2014 15:41
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Entropic posted:So opened a foil Champion of Stray Souls last night and was laughing at how bad a mythic it is, but apparently even the SCG buylist price for it is like 4 bucks. all foil mythics are worth 4 or 5 just due to the rarity. i don't know how many x packs is a foil, but then foils follow the same rarity so any foil mythic is pretty frickin rare.
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Feb 26, 2014 15:43
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Lunsku posted:I kind of doubt we see this kind of shake up to the block structure any time soon. The new annual core sets came after Lor/Sha, and the calendar for Wizards is quite nicely packed now around the year with three "expert" sets and a core set each year. Plus now the new sets kinda tie on to the four Pro Tours of the year too. Inside the three annual non-core sets, they can and will mix things up for sure. Theros block is the long due classic, large - small - small style block, after several that were different. Maro's mentioned a few times how Duck Block has a different structure that actually took Creative longer than normal to figure out how to work it in terms of flavor. It was originally supposed to be Theros and it got bumped back a year to give them more time to do it.
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Feb 26, 2014 16:27
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Lord Of Texas posted:Best set symbol discussion - go: Worst is Dragon's Maze, this unintelligible, uninspired mess of the two previous symbols mashed together, making the Rare/Mythic versions look like crap. Also the cards sucked. edit: VVV case in point, the prosecution rests. AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 16:30
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AnacondaHL posted:Worst is Dragon's Maze, this unintelligible, uninspired mess of the two previous symbols mashed together, making the Rare/Mythic versions look like crap. Also the cards sucked. Wait. THAT'S what Dragon's Maze's symbol is? Ugh, I hate the set even more somehow.
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Feb 26, 2014 16:39
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There's an extremely small amount of design space for set symbols so Wizards will often create all three symbols as a variation on a theme or as a combination of previous symbols. Mirrodin Beseiged's symbol was the phyrexian symbol overlayed on the mirran symbol. Going forward I would expect to see more set symbols like those in Theros block; they all share a similar shape and Journey Into Nyx's symbol takes elements from the Theros and Born of the Gods symbols.
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Feb 26, 2014 16:49
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Why do people dislike the spider set symbol? I keep forgetting the name but I played off and on throughout the years and that spider is the most memorable. It is the best symbol.Livingtrope posted:I'm a terrible causal player but I think Miracles looks fun, the end result is smashing them with a bunch of angels and who doesn't love that. Yep. There are plenty of legacy endings where it's just a 2/1 or 2/2 dude hitting someone until death. This occurs more frequently against pox and it's herp derp wasteland vs. mishra's factory. Good times. Delver decks are pretty much all-in on this classic plan. However, the fact that a casual displayed interest in it means it's not distasteful enough. If only eggs vs. doomsday could be a thing.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:03
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Fox of Stone posted:Why do people dislike the spider set symbol? I keep forgetting the name but I played off and on throughout the years and that spider is the most memorable. It is the best symbol. That set is onslaught. I also totally agree, its simple, easily recognized, and relates directly to a card type prevalent in the set (morph). I don't get the hatred, I guess it looks like a weird M to some people? Fox of Stone posted:If only eggs vs. doomsday could be a thing. I would love to watch a new player try and figure out how in the hell they are supposed to win with doomsday. I mean, would they even cast the namesake card?
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Feb 26, 2014 17:06
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Fox of Stone posted:Yep. There are plenty of legacy endings where it's just a 2/1 or 2/2 dude hitting someone until death. This occurs more frequently against pox and it's herp derp wasteland vs. mishra's factory. Good times. Delver decks are pretty much all-in on this classic plan. However, the fact that a casual displayed interest in it means it's not distasteful enough. If only eggs vs. doomsday could be a thing. i don't think you know how much I hate myself, I would play eggs and I would meticulously ask everytime if a trigger or ability resolved.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:09
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Madmarker posted:That set is onslaught. I also totally agree, its simple, easily recognized, and relates directly to a card type prevalent in the set (morph). I don't get the hatred, I guess it looks like a weird M to some people? If the "morph" symbol was evocative or recognizable without knowing the in-depth Onslaught lore, I would like it. Or if the set was spider-themed.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:10
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Lord Of Texas posted:Or if the set was spider-themed. Makes me miss Spider Spawning in draft. 
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Feb 26, 2014 17:12
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ScarletBrother posted:Makes me miss Spider Spawning in draft. Oh to be playing triple Innistraad draft again.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:14
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Kabanaw posted:There's an extremely small amount of design space for set symbols so Wizards will often create all three symbols as a variation on a theme or as a combination of previous symbols. Mirrodin Beseiged's symbol was the phyrexian symbol overlayed on the mirran symbol. Going forward I would expect to see more set symbols like those in Theros block; they all share a similar shape and Journey Into Nyx's symbol takes elements from the Theros and Born of the Gods symbols. Sometimes it works out well. The Zendikar Block expansion symbols are pretty perfect for what they are. I actually much prefer symbols where you can tell just by looking at them that they're all from the same block.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:15
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Entropic posted:Sometimes it works out well. The Zendikar Block expansion symbols are pretty perfect for what they are. Yeah, what differentiates the Zendikar symbol from, say, the Onslaught symbol is that hedrons are plastered absolutely everywhere in the card art. You don't have to even read the flavor text to know that hedrons = Zendikar. I remember very few cards in Onslaught where morphed creatures were clearly depicted. There were definitely some, but they weren't as ubiquitous. Lord Of Texas fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 17:18
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I always forgot its name was onslaught but the M stands for  anyway. (M stands for Morph you dinguses)Livingtrope posted:i don't think you know how much I hate myself, I would play eggs and I would meticulously ask everytime if a trigger or ability resolved. e: Tea time crew on gbs. I joined when it was nice crew and it's fun at times but apparently it's drama-filled at times. I wouldn't know cuz I always see 500+ unread posts and skip to the end when I post. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 17:19
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Fox of Stone posted:that awful thread What awful thread is this? I enjoy lurking.
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Feb 26, 2014 17:21
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ungulateman posted:2) Are we ever going to see four-set blocks like Lorwyn / Shadowmoor again? I loved those blocks and I feel like the four-block format works really well for spreading out the Standard format (also, Kithkin were the best white weenies). This happened because they didn't have a secondary Summer product (Modern Masters, Commander, etc.) ready to go that year, so they just asked Rosewater to put a 4th set into the block they were working on instead. Rosewater then came up with the double block structure to fill that gap. Certainly possible in the future, but unlikely, especially since they're planning up to 7 years ahead at this point.
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Feb 26, 2014 18:15
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Madmarker posted:I would love to watch a new player try and figure out how in the hell they are supposed to win with doomsday. I mean, would they even cast the namesake card? In this year's DOTP, the last puzzle in the expansion is basically a super convoluted storm combo with Tendrils that involves repeatedly tapping lands, untapping with Great Whale off Sneak Attack, sacrificing it, recurring it, Tendrils, dumping the hand, Infernal Tutor, Past in Flames, repeat as many times as possible, Tendrils again. Not the same but similar in the idea of handing a new guy a bunch of ridiculous tools and making him play some weird complex poo poo.
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Feb 26, 2014 18:17
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The High Tide vs Solidarity match up is truly the greatest of all matchups. Its like watching someone masturbate for 30 minutes and then all of a sudden someone else comes and also masturbates for 30 minutes after the first person. Its great.
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Feb 26, 2014 18:25
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Lord Of Texas posted:Yeah, what differentiates the Zendikar symbol from, say, the Onslaught symbol is that hedrons are plastered absolutely everywhere in the card art. You don't have to even read the flavor text to know that hedrons = Zendikar. I remember very few cards in Onslaught where morphed creatures were clearly depicted. There were definitely some, but they weren't as ubiquitous.
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Feb 26, 2014 18:55
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Yeah, what was the flavor of Morph supposed to be, for those of us who weren't playing at the time and didn't read the schlocky novels?
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Feb 26, 2014 19:00
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mango sentinel posted:Was there any story reason actually given for why everyone was turning back and forth into weird 4 legged stump things? Mechanically Morph is fun but flavor wise it's probably the most gross/creepy mechanic and has always bothered me. I believe it's some combination of Ixidor being a reality shaping jerk and the Mirari messing everything up.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:02
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Entropic posted:Yeah, what was the flavor of Morph supposed to be, for those of us who weren't playing at the time and didn't read the schlocky novels? They didn't really have a handle on it, I'm pretty sure that the "official"/novel line was that the spider things were foci through which Ixidor summoned poo poo, but then they have stuff like art of smashing one open with a hammer to reveal a cephalid hiding inside (and the card's name is literally Break Open, so it's not just like it was the artist getting his wires crossed; Creative had to decide that was happening).
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Feb 26, 2014 19:03
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It literally never comes up in the storyline. Onslaught block is a jumbled mess story-wise and easily the worst plotline. Reminder: Akroma is a panther-taur angel before Legions even starts. Phage and the Cabal Patriarch have a god-wizard-baby together. The heroes of the story are literally black silhouettes who are never mentioned in the cards. They get cockroach bodies later on. Mutations from the Mirari are never really mentioned at all, ever.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:09
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I am soooooo dumb, I just realized the next block is going to be Sarkhan Vol's home plane.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:32
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50 pounds of bread posted:I am soooooo dumb, I just realized the next block is going to be Sarkhan Vol's home plane. It would be interesting if it is, since that's a plane that's been confirmed to have no dragons.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:34
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50 pounds of bread posted:I am soooooo dumb, I just realized the next block is going to be Sarkhan Vol's home plane. What plane and how do you know?
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Feb 26, 2014 19:38
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I mean maybe it isn't and is just baseless speculation, but I have a *feeling*. Edit: in fact, if tarkir doesn't have dragons, then I am just plainly wrong, but I thought one of the expansions was "Dragons of Tarkir", and constantly warring warlords that hunt dragons pretty much sounds like what tarkir is about. 50 pounds of bread fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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Feb 26, 2014 19:38
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If the next block is indeed Mongol-themed, I'd be very happy. Horsemanship. 
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Feb 26, 2014 19:41
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Serperoth posted:Horsemanship. Casuals
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Feb 26, 2014 19:44
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Livingtrope posted:i don't think you know how much I hate myself, I would play eggs and I would meticulously ask everytime if a trigger or ability resolved. Eggs isn't really that annoying, it's like playing with lands in front or whatever. If you wanted to make someone and yourself miserable you'd play Four Horseman.
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Feb 26, 2014 19:46
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Chorocojo posted:It literally never comes up in the storyline. Onslaught block is a jumbled mess story-wise and easily the worst plotline. I just read the synopsis on the Onslaught block storyline on MTGSalvWiki and holy crap. Karona summons Yawgmoth for an audience? 
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Feb 26, 2014 19:58
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rabidsquid posted:Eggs isn't really that annoying, it's like playing with lands in front or whatever. If you wanted to make someone and yourself miserable you'd play Four Horseman. Well, that is why I said I'd play it in a specifically annoying fashion  I seem to recall some big Legacy.jpg, was Four Horseman the one that was "play this if you hate everyone" option?
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Feb 26, 2014 20:08
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Pyrolocutus posted:I just read the synopsis on the Onslaught block storyline on MTGSalvWiki and holy crap. Karona summons Yawgmoth for an audience? I think the accepted interpretation is that those are effectively hallucinations or at least not of the same reality since Yawgmoth has been dead for a long time and Teferi in Time Spiral had never met Karona. Maybe they're just manifestations of aspects of Dominarian mana, but they're not the main canon versions of those characters.
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Feb 26, 2014 20:08
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Livingtrope posted:Well, that is why I said I'd play it in a specifically annoying fashion You could still lose with eggs if you played wrong. The only problem with four horsemen is that you had to do the iteration a number of times approaching infinity to make sure the pieces fell in the right order. So it's only a negative if you value your time. *posts in wizard thread*
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Feb 26, 2014 20:48
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Dr. Clockwork posted:What plane and how do you know? I'm going to assume its from here quote:Sarkhan Vol comes from a plane where territorial warlords vie against each other in unending, brutal war. On this plane, dragons have long since been hunted to extinction for sport and glory.
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AgentAO posted:I'm going to assume its from here Would be cool if they tie dragons being resurrected into the storyline. Dragonspeaker Shaman reprint?
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Feb 26, 2014 20:52
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