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Probably not. Some of them use titanium dioxide, for added UV-blocking effect, some of them use natural fruit extracts, and some use placenta.
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Nyarai posted:Wiki's not being at all helpful, and I'm not gonna watch the movie. What was the race issue in Lady in the Water? Welp, there are two major Korean characters, an old cranky dragon lady and her sexy hoochie mama daughter, who are so offensively broad and stereotypical that words can't really do it justice. (Imagine Ms. Swan from MadTV and the "me so horny" prostitute from Full Metal Jacket.) That movie also has the five Mexican sisters who believe a cockroach is literally a demon, which is directly echoed in Shyamalan's Devil where a Latino security guard is so cravenly superstitious he uses a piece of toast landing face down as proof that the devil is haunting their building. MisterBadIdea fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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The lack of diversity is Hollywood is a joke, or stuff like Black Hawk Down where the Somalians are almost inhuman monsters on that movie. Though I do love the reaction of nerds whenever a prominent character is changed to being black from white. Hemidall from the Thor probably being the most well known of that. I remember seeing some of that when they showed that the new Human Torch was to be played by a Black man. Though I haven't heard much since so I'm assuming the fury has died down a bit.
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Remember how mad people got that the black characters in The Hunger Games were played by black actors in the movie?
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Me in green. This person tends to just hit and run with this stuff. This is the worst thing I've seen in my feed lately.
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Feb 27, 2014 07:59
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VideoTapir posted:Me in green. This person tends to just hit and run with this stuff. This is the worst thing I've seen in my feed lately. All I can see are dicks in this image.
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Feb 27, 2014 08:04
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TerminalSaint posted:Remember how mad people got that the black characters in The Hunger Games were played by black actors in the movie? I'd like to know how "...She has bright, dark eyes and satiny brown skin..." means anything besides black to these people?
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Feb 27, 2014 08:36
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constantIllusion posted:I'd like to know how "...She has bright, dark eyes and satiny brown skin..." means anything besides black to these people? I'd also like to know how a person who wrote the descriptor "bright, dark" can call themselves a writer.
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StealthArcher posted:I'd also like to know how a person who wrote the descriptor "bright, dark" can call themselves a writer. Dark brown eyes perhaps? Mind you no one ever accused Suzanne Collins at being skilled at actually writing her books. Great ideas, terrible, terrible writing.
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StealthArcher posted:I'd also like to know how a person who wrote the descriptor "bright, dark" can call themselves a writer. Bright in this case meaning intelligent, but yeah it is pretty poorly worded.
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KomradeX posted:The lack of diversity is Hollywood is a joke, or stuff like Black Hawk Down where the Somalians are almost inhuman monsters on that movie. Though I do love the reaction of nerds whenever a prominent character is changed to being black from white. Hemidall from the Thor probably being the most well known of that. I remember seeing some of that when they showed that the new Human Torch was to be played by a Black man. Though I haven't heard much since so I'm assuming the fury has died down a bit. Nope. http://cheezburger.com/8074050560#comments
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constantIllusion posted:I'd like to know how "...She has bright, dark eyes and satiny brown skin..." means anything besides black to these people? Well, they could be people like me who don't have strongly visual imaginations. Consequently, I almost always skim over/forget visual descriptions in stories unless they're specifically relevant. (Of course, in Hunger Games, the concentration of black people into that district helps to localize it to the former-South, as well as putting a point on how bad the system was by showing that once again black people were largely confined to manual labor on plantations.) Alternately, they could be racist enough that even when reading "brown skin" they still just imagine a white person with a dark complexion and/or a tan. I suppose you could also make something of the fact that race is a social construct and say that a racist American saying they imagine someone as white really means they imagine them as part of the in-group, regardless of their skin color. They empathize with Rue so much that she necessarily must be white to them.
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Agents are GO! posted:All I can see are dicks in this image. They're biceps dude. Big manly biceps.
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constantIllusion posted:I'd like to know how "...She has bright, dark eyes and satiny brown skin..." means anything besides black to these people? Mornacale posted:Alternately, they could be racist enough that even when reading "brown skin" they still just imagine a white person with a dark complexion and/or a tan. That may just be because we were talking about India and skin tone just before it. Or maybe it is because I am the real racist. 
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John Charity Spring posted:They're biceps dude. Big manly biceps. Then they need more veins.
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Here are some choice comments from that page, for people who don't feel like clicking through.   Literally a person being super racist who says that the studio only did this so that they would avoid looking racist. Including the white main character becoming a bitter and angry villain because he was replaced by a black man.  Your typical "These characters created in the 1960s are all white and nothing can ever change ever" comment.  Black people only belong in movies specifically created to feature black people.  But this one really just takes the cake. "Black people are incapable of acting 'normal' because they are all gangsters at heart", I poo poo you not.
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loving Will Smith is the epitome of "gangsta" to this guy.
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Breadallelogram posted:loving Will Smith is the epitome of "gangsta" to this guy. Yeah I read that and stopped reading cause Jesus Christ nerds are just the worst. I love the only Ben Grimm or Mister Fantastic bring Black would have been okay. I would bet all the money I have that they would have been even more up in arms in Mister Fantastic was black and Sue Storm white. Though I'm reminded, a friend of mine has been playing Star Trek Attack Wing, so he's watching DS9 and he's complaint to me about them putting modern day racial problems in the show instead of through the lens of alien species. He's also the toe that think women are bad programmers.
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A black Mister Fantastic would be awesome, but what I'd really like to see the reaction to is a black Bruce Wayne.
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it came from facebookSome rear end in a top hat posted:Has anyone ever run into pan-handlers in [neighborhood]? There was a large-framed, well-groomed African American lady at the entrance to [neighborhood] on [street] on Thursday afternoon. She stopped me on my way in to "ask me a question," (I ought to know better, but she looked pretty well put together, so I stopped). She offered to do work for me for money, which was a red flag that somebody her size could be potentially combative. I called the police on the grounds of "suspicious behavior," since I've never seen a panhandler outside of downtown before, particularly one that looked like she was just out for some exercise. Are you loving serious, "potentially combative"  This is on the heels of one instance of armed robbery occurring on the periphery of this tract development I rent in, so whitey is on high alert. In spite of us living in a pretty typical middle class urban neighborhood, the development is a big gentrified incursion into an old area of the city. We literally had the chief of police tell us at the neighborhood meeting last week that we have a very low crime rate. Nevertheless it's time to freak out and form neighborhood watches and build fences and etc.
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quote:"She offered to do work for me for money, which was a red flag that somebody her size could be potentially combative." Aside from the obvious "oh god a black person!" subtext, what the gently caress is this sentence even supposed to mean? She asked for work, how does that make her potentially combative? Why is it different for her size as well? If a skinny black person asked for some day labor would it have been non-potentially combative? Or if a fat white lady asked? This just reads like general paranoia now that I actually think about it.
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Discendo Vox posted:A black Mister Fantastic would be awesome, but what I'd really like to see the reaction to is a black Bruce Wayne. The right's disdain for Jay-Z despite being a bootstraps success story 
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I've stopped to talk to the same woman. Now, granted, she stands in the middle of the intersection and waves you down like she's in trouble. Who wouldn't stop? She asks for money, I say I don't carry cash, we exchange pleasantries, I drive away. This has literally zero effect on the proceedings of my day.
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Stew Man Chew posted:it came from facebook Sometimes, I really wonder if some of those posts are just expert trolls stirring up poo poo with the Freepers. I mean, "This well-dressed black woman offered to do odd jobs for me, so I called the police in fear for my life," is just so ludicrous that it's difficult to take at face value. I'm reminded also of the guy from a couple of weeks back who posted a story that boiled down to, "I parked between two other cars who were there before me and considered setting my dogs loose/opening fire on the occupants of the other two vehicles because they were sort of young." These can't all be real, can they? (They can  )
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Didn't people get really mad about gay black Spiderman? I don't really follow comics but I dimly remember hearing about nerds raging about it five or so years ago.
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Discendo Vox posted:A black Mister Fantastic would be awesome, but what I'd really like to see the reaction to is a black Bruce Wayne. I've always thought it was odd that of all the New Yorker superheroes, maybe a sixth of them were not white. I mean yeah, that made sense in the old days, but now it makes no sense. Why shouldn't the New Yorker superheroes reflect their city more accurately?
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Swan Oat posted:Didn't people get really mad about gay black Spiderman? Maybe not gay black Spiderman but the remote possibility of it being Donald Glover - https://youtu.be/FjbLCdJwtJM?t=2m55s
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The fact that a black man is going to play a white person's brother reminds me of Heath Ledger's Australian accent in 10 Things I Hate About You, which is set in America. The filmmakers explain it away easily (He's from Australia, duh), but it's still an unnecessary and distracting detail that only existed because of a limitation of the actor. The inter-racial siblings in Fantastic Four will be explained away with a line of dialogue and after that people are gonna shut the gently caress up and watch the movie, but at the same time I doubt the filmmakers went with this casting because they sincerely thought the movie would be improved by a subplot about interracial families (and I say that coming from an interracial family). I mean, I know we all hate nerds and their pathetic fear of change, but I don't think it's unfair to say this casting feels forced and inorganic.Swan Oat posted:Didn't people get really mad about gay black Spiderman? I don't remember a gay black Spider-Man but the Ultimate Spider-Man comic book universe replaced Peter Parker with a half-black-half-Dominican a few years ago. (Also Donald Glover would be a loving awesome Spider-Man.) MisterBadIdea fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Cosmic rays turning you black is more reasonable than them giving you super powers.  Discendo Vox posted:A black Mister Fantastic would be awesome You know if they ever did it, they'd pick that movie for him to finally turn evil.
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What is the name of that website that puts funky names over Facebook posts? I have a thing that made me roll my eyes so far that they looped back over.
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Centripetal Horse posted:Sometimes, I really wonder if some of those posts are just expert trolls stirring up poo poo with the Freepers. I mean, "This well-dressed black woman offered to do odd jobs for me, so I called the police in fear for my life," is just so ludicrous that it's difficult to take at face value. I'm reminded also of the guy from a couple of weeks back who posted a story that boiled down to, "I parked between two other cars who were there before me and considered setting my dogs loose/opening fire on the occupants of the other two vehicles because they were sort of young." These can't all be real, can they? I've met the guy in question and can assure you he's 100% in earnest. So are the 10 other people replying to him praising his decision. These people don't understand humor, much less posting "ironically", much much less posting deliberately ironically in a self-effacing manner to provoke a reaction that could be considered trolling.
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KKKLIP ART posted:What is the name of that website that puts funky names over Facebook posts? I have a thing that made me roll my eyes so far that they looped back over. Social Fixer, it's a Chrome extension.
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MisterBadIdea posted:The fact that a black man is going to play a white person's brother reminds me of Heath Ledger's Australian accent in 10 Things I Hate About You, which is set in America. The filmmakers explain it away easily (He's from Australia, duh), but it's still an unnecessary and distracting detail that only existed because of a limitation of the actor. The inter-racial siblings in Fantastic Four will be explained away with a line of dialogue and after that people are gonna shut the gently caress up and watch the movie, but at the same time I doubt the filmmakers went with this casting because they sincerely thought the movie would be improved by a subplot about interracial families (and I say that coming from an interracial family). I mean, I know we all hate nerds and their pathetic fear of change, but I don't think it's unfair to say this casting feels forced and inorganic. They could just as easily avoid an awkward explanation of "oh they're half-siblings/interracial parents/adoption/whatever" if they made Sue Storm black too, but then Mr. Fantastic would be married to a black woman onscreen and we can't have that.
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MisterBadIdea posted:I mean, I know we all hate nerds and their pathetic fear of change, but I don't think it's unfair to say this casting feels forced and inorganic. The only reason it feels "forced and inorganic" is because it isn't commonly used. In real life, mixed race families are not uncommon at all. The vast majority of people barely blink at it, let alone oppose it. The only way to change the "feeling" of using these depictions is to, guess what, use them. Today, an interracial kiss would not be seen as anything strange. But the first one ever shown to an audience was part of a plot on Star Trek that had nothing to do with race.
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Thompsons posted:They could just as easily avoid an awkward explanation of "oh they're half-siblings/interracial parents/adoption/whatever" if they made Sue Storm black too, but then Mr. Fantastic would be married to a black woman onscreen and we can't have that. I want this. I would really like this.
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Thompsons posted:They could just as easily avoid an awkward explanation of "oh they're half-siblings/interracial parents/adoption/whatever" if they made Sue Storm black too, but then Mr. Fantastic would be married to a black woman onscreen and we can't have that. I don't think it's the interracial romance angle that scared off Hollywood, it's the fact that they'd have to have more than one black character, and that we certainly can't have. (Also Hollywood has very little use for black actresses for anything besides Tyler Perry movies, so there's no black actress who's a hot up-and-comer the way Michael B. Jordan is.) But yes, making Sue Storm black would have been absolutely wonderful. quote:The only reason it feels "forced and inorganic" is because it isn't commonly used. In real life, mixed race families are not uncommon at all. Mixed-race families, sure, but adopted siblings/step-siblings of different races? (No, I'm asking seriously, is it that common? Anyone have any stats?) MisterBadIdea fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Xombie posted:The only reason it feels "forced and inorganic" is because it isn't commonly used. In real life, mixed race families are not uncommon at all. The vast majority of people barely blink at it, let alone oppose it. The only way to change the "feeling" of using these depictions is to, guess what, use them. First lesbian kiss on TV was also on Star Trek.
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MisterBadIdea posted:I don't think it's the interracial romance angle that scared off Hollywood, it's the fact that they'd have to have more than one black character, and that we certainly can't have. (Also Hollywood has very little use for black actresses for anything besides Tyler Perry movies, so there's no black actress who's a hot up-and-comer the way Michael B. Jordan is.) Well, for Sue Storm and black actresses, there's Jessica Lucas, who is black, but not "too black" for Hollywood.
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Renaissance Robot posted:You know if they ever did it, they'd pick that movie for him to finally turn evil. Reed Richards is a stone's throw away from being "evil" at any given second though
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