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The Sex Cannon posted:
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The Sex Cannon posted:
Take pictures of yourself eating it. Naked except for the guardsmen conveniently censoring you.
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Feb 28, 2014 01:32
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:The guy is talking out of his arse. The WD clearly states they are for use in standard 40k. Three or more can be taken as their own primary detachment. Remember that GW considers Escalation to be "standard 40k". So if you aren't playing with Escalation - I would have a hard time including these as they require rules IN Escalation (or Apocalypse). So again, talk to your opponent ahead of time and figure out what type of game and what limitations (if any) you want to play with.
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Feb 28, 2014 02:13
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I guess we'll find out for sure when the codex comes out, but I really didn't get the impression that it was an Escalation unit from the article.
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Feb 28, 2014 02:26
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Ghost Hand posted:Remember that GW considers Escalation to be "standard 40k". So if you aren't playing with Escalation - I would have a hard time including these as they require rules IN Escalation (or Apocalypse). So again, talk to your opponent ahead of time and figure out what type of game and what limitations (if any) you want to play with. They require those rules, but at the same time they aren't Lords of War, so there's no special warlord table or victory points awarded for killing them. It's weird, and it's not clear, but I can see how Knights could be used without Escalation. But you should still talk ahead of time, or at least have an alternate list you can pull out if your opponent has zero chance against it.
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Feb 28, 2014 02:28
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panascope posted:Edit: oops I found the wrong thing You're the best (after Kharn, of course). 
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Feb 28, 2014 02:52
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Ghost Hand posted:Remember that GW considers Escalation to be "standard 40k". What other products do they consider standard?
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Feb 28, 2014 02:59
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Ghost Hand posted:Remember that GW considers Escalation to be "standard 40k". So if you aren't playing with Escalation - I would have a hard time including these as they require rules IN Escalation (or Apocalypse). So again, talk to your opponent ahead of time and figure out what type of game and what limitations (if any) you want to play with. Other than in their actual shops and tournaments, of course. 
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Feb 28, 2014 03:13
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Fix posted:What other products do they consider standard? Anything forgeworld with the 40k stamp. 
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Feb 28, 2014 03:22
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Post 9-11 User posted:You're the best (after Kharn, of course). You owe it to yourself to read the Kharn fan-fiction though that I posted by mistake. For those who have used superheavies, what ones are worth using from an Imperial standpoint? The Warhound looks loving awesome, is it as good as I think it is? panascope fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Feb 28, 2014 03:30
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I do hope Chaos gets access to Knights, or their version of Knights. Knowing GW, they'll be Knighs with fewer option and BS/WS 3, but a 5++ save. Though I'd prefer it for them to get something more unique. Maybe a Greater Daemon Prince supplement to allow fielding the abominations that really eat planets and can go toe-to-toe with Wraithknights and Imperial Knights. Can't help feeling that the regular Daemon Princes are bit players in the current 40k meta.
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Feb 28, 2014 03:52
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They might release a sprue, like for chaos vehicles, with spiky bits/ carapace and armour alternatives.
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Feb 28, 2014 04:21
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That guy from a while ago? Came back for his army.
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Feb 28, 2014 04:28
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:That guy from a while ago? Came back for his army. Did he replace your big bug he broke? Or at least get banned from the store? e: I just want to know if a grognard got griefed 
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Feb 28, 2014 04:30
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:That guy from a while ago? Came back for his army. Jesus, dude, don't leave us hanging!
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Feb 28, 2014 04:33
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:That guy from a while ago? Came back for his army. I would have kept his army as payment for his little outburst. loving hell what a total poo poo lord.
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Feb 28, 2014 04:34
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My Haruspex wasn't damaged but he didn't know that. He got banned (I dunno if I'd ever seen him before anyway) and I exchanged the Haruspex he bought for a Carnifex.
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Feb 28, 2014 04:37
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So... would anyone feel like converting Warlocks and Farseers on jetbikes for me? I don't really have the modelling skills for this kind of thing (to make them look good). I'd commission just the modelling, the painting I want to do...
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Feb 28, 2014 04:41
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Sephyr posted:I do hope Chaos gets access to Knights, or their version of Knights. Knowing GW, they'll be Knighs with fewer option and BS/WS 3, but a 5++ save. Let's be fair. If GW does go that route, Chaos knights would also get IWND, demonforge, and possessed (though it would do nothing for them). GW is at least consistent like that.
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Feb 28, 2014 05:15
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Fix posted:What other products do they consider standard? I'm simply saying they don't seem to differentiate it like they have with Planetstrike and Cities of Death etc. However, my group does. We typically choose to play without the Escalation rules.
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Feb 28, 2014 05:20
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Boon posted:So... would anyone feel like converting Warlocks and Farseers on jetbikes for me? I don't really have the modelling skills for this kind of thing (to make them look good). I'd commission just the modelling, the painting I want to do... I have been interested in a project like this, though I have very little conversion experience. PM me to talk about it more?
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Feb 28, 2014 05:57
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I thought there was that White Dwarf Daily where Jervis counted Escalation along with all the other expansions, like Cities of Death or what have you. That said, I think it's perfectly reasonable of someone to say no if you bring a superheavy. Just bring two lists; it's not like you don't have a bunch already. Played a game tonight where the elements all conspired to help my Crimson Fists to victory. It was Hammer and Anvil and killpoints, and I was playing a fairly mobile and shooty army against a fairly static and point defense-centric Black Legion army. My dice were on fire, to the point where a Daemon Prince charged my Sternguard and got beaten back by their regular attacks and a power fist swing or two. I'd roll 7 dice and pass 6 armor saves, and my opponent would fail 5 out of 8. I think my positioning and army list really cinched the game for me, but god drat were the dice gods in my favor.  Go get em, boys!
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Feb 28, 2014 06:18
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KR BULBACASE    4hrs of research, $20 for the box, $90 for the foam (clearance). Fits a few less models than a Kaiser3, 2 Sergeant Bags, or 1 Army Transport MK2. Cost includes a metal box I can take on airplanes and spare trays so I can swap my army list in and out. gently caress overpriced foam companies.
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Ghost Hand posted:I'm simply saying they don't seem to differentiate it like they have with Planetstrike and Cities of Death etc. However, my group does. We typically choose to play without the Escalation rules. Yeah, I was just wondering if you'd heard of any of the other extra stuff being "standard" like the fighter aces or the stronghold assault thing. The kinds of things that might make it into a future core rulebook.
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Squifferific posted:They require those rules, but at the same time they aren't Lords of War, so there's no special warlord table or victory points awarded for killing them. It's weird, and it's not clear, but I can see how Knights could be used without Escalation. But you should still talk ahead of time, or at least have an alternate list you can pull out if your opponent has zero chance against it. My biggest problem with the Knights is that they're setting a dangerous precedent. Whereas with Escalation it's at least playing lip service to the idea of balance with the Warlord table and the additional VP's, by not classifying Imperial Knights as Lords of War despite their SH status and S:D weapon GW is effectively removing what few advantages players not fielding SH's had. This also opens the door for other armies to start getting SH's and S:D weapons as a part of their base codexes, which can only serve to shatter what little balance remains in this broken game. I'm definitely not thrilled about it.
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Feb 28, 2014 07:10
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Cross-posting from the oath thread, because why not. Brother Pabby, wielding the mighty Beerhammer!   
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Acebuckeye13 posted:My biggest problem with the Knights is that they're setting a dangerous precedent. Whereas with Escalation it's at least playing lip service to the idea of balance with the Warlord table and the additional VP's, by not classifying Imperial Knights as Lords of War despite their SH status and S:D weapon GW is effectively removing what few advantages players not fielding SH's had. This also opens the door for other armies to start getting SH's and S:D weapons as a part of their base codexes, which can only serve to shatter what little balance remains in this broken game. I'm definitely not thrilled about it. I think there's a big difference between Knights and other superheavies, though- Knights are 13/12/12 and have six HP, which is well below the stats of pretty much any other Escalation/Apocalypse unit. An army of pure Knights does definitely give problems to many casual forces because it's putting a lot of armor in the enemy's face very quick, but that's not really much different at the basic level than a White Scars bike army, any kind of fully-mechanized force, Tyranid MC list, etc, etc. All of them focus heavily on a single strategy and for anyone who can't deal with that strategy, it is going to be a major problem.
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I'm with Acebuckeye13. I'd feel better about things if Knights didn't exist in some nebulous space without any FOCs. e: PBR marine owns. I would play dolls and drink pabst with you. BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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I'm really not that freaked out about Knights. I don't think they could weather my 30k army's fusillades. Lets put it this way, even if it is a Knight-Only army, its going to be flanked and surrounded. I don't have anything thats a monstrous creature for me to sweat getting crushed by the D strength.
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Blacktoll posted:I'm really not that freaked out about Knights. I don't think they could weather my 30k army's fusillades. Lets put it this way, even if it is a Knight-Only army, its going to be flanked and surrounded. I don't have anything thats a monstrous creature for me to sweat getting crushed by the D strength. Yeah, the top tier stuff like Eldar/30k/Tau won't care at all but pretty sure an Ork, Daemon, Tyranid or Grey Knight list will just hand shake against a full Knight force.
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The worst part about the Knights is that it's quickly convincing me to field two Wraithknights. I'm becoming "that guy" 
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Sykic posted:The worst part about the Knights is that it's quickly convincing me to field two Wraithknights. I'm becoming "that guy" What's worse really: Being "that guy" who has to buy the biggest and most expensive things just to keep up with the game or being "that guy" who politely says, "Hey, I'd be more than happy to play a game but I don't want to play against Superheavies/Riptide Spam/[insert whatever thing you don't like], I don't really find it fun (maybe you do, it's just an example). Sorry." I mean, in a tournament comp setting you gotta roll with those punches and obviously this is all subjective; what combos I don't like may be completely acceptable to another person and that's okay. But in a casual competition setting? Play the game in a way both of you will enjoy equally, or at least try to find some happy medium, even if it means declining a game sometimes. Nobody likes getting completely steamrolled, and, as someone who is usually "The Steamroll", I'll dial my lists back sometimes because I play with friends and I don't want the game to turn into some miserable experience for the other player. Some players might cry and moan "It's all "legal" in regular 40k" but the game is a form of entertainment first and foremost. Obviously some of these past codexes/dataslates have been met with mixed opinions and there's definitely no real forethought from the GW designers on how they would effect the game. If I bring my Daemons or Tyranids to a casual, semi-competitive setting and my opponent starts unpacking 4 or 5 Imperial Knights or a 5 Riptide army or 3/4 Wraithknights I'll more than likely just politely decline. I'll gladly accept a "challenging" game but some of the latest additions to the game are so game bending on a fundamental level/incredibly lopsided/obviously written with the sole intention of just selling models, that if I have absolutely no counter in my army against their units (which is a real issue for some codexes), why waste time playing if I know I won't enjoy it? (Edits for grammar) Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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Pacheeco posted:What's worse really: Being "that guy" who has to buy the biggest and most expensive things just to keep up with the game or being "that guy" who politely says, "Hey, I'd be more than happy to play a game but I don't want to play against Superheavies/Riptide Spam/[insert whatever thing you don't like], I don't really find it fun (maybe you do, it's just an example). Sorry." I mean, in a tournament comp setting you gotta roll with those punches and obviously this is all subjective; what combos I don't like may be completely acceptable to another person and that's okay, but in a casual setting? Play the game in a way both of you will enjoy equally, or at least try to find some happy medium, even if it mean's declining a game sometimes. Nobody likes getting completely steamrolled, and, as someone who is usually "The Steamroll", I'll dial my lists back sometimes because I play with friends and I don't want the game to turn into some miserable experience for the other player. I'm absolutely floored by people who don't get this. Outside of a Tournament setting there really isn't any point playing any game where you're just going to steamroll/get steamrolled. A lot of people seem to want you to setup your models just to concede so they can keep their Warseer sig w/l/d ratio honest. Or something.
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I caved in and got ordered myself a Mk4 Strike Force to start the troops of my thousand sons. So that's 22 marines on top of the three tanks and four rapiers that I have yet to paint beyond priming. May the resin gods have mercy and grant me their non-bendy absolution.
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I saw that Tamiya m113 and thought it looked great, are there any other goon recommended alternatives for guard vehicles? After the codex drops in April I might consider converting up some chimeras. Nearly finished highlighting my entire army... It's been loving Exhausting. I have over two hundred assorted guardsmen and Marines. All those eye lenses. ALL THE loving LENSES.
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Mango Polo posted:I caved in and got ordered myself a Mk4 Strike Force to start the troops of my thousand sons. MK4 armor is so sexy. It's mostly what I'm going to use as well for 30K. The only goofy thing about the armor is that I don't think there are eagle patterns on any of it for the EC.
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I've decided to build an Imperial Navy task force that'll comprise of a Thunderbolt, maybe a couple of Vultures, Lightnings and Valkyries. A fun force for Apocalypse, it'll complement what I've done with my Ork Skwadron. I already own a Marauder Bomber 
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Pacheeco posted:What's worse really Turns out it's on hold anyway, I just realised I'll have nowhere near enough room to carry them in my case. Dodged a bullet there  Honestly the idea of taking 2 Wraithknights just feels wrong, the problem is that players around here seem more interested in finding the most broken units and rules possible. The day they were put up for pre-order I saw/heard 6 people express interest in a 5-Knight list, and I know some of them have already ordered 3. Basically what I'm saying is more UK hams need to come up north and play instead of hiding in London 
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Monoliths posted:Cross-posting from the oath thread, because why not. This is seriously amazing.
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Sykic posted:Basically what I'm saying is more UK hams need to come up north and play instead of hiding in London London is "up North" for me!
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