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Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




What is a 'honeypot thread'?

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12gauge
Feb 24, 2014

DOOP posted:

What is a 'honeypot thread'?

Don't you see it's all a brilliant plan to draw out all the adult virgins on SA and, I dunno, burn us for fuel or something.

Char
Jan 5, 2013

amarantinesky posted:

Since reading this thread, I've come to the conclusion that after a while "virgin" starts to bleed into "basket case." It really doesn't have to be that way.

What do you mean "it really doesn't have to be that way" ? I mean, I don't think there are many explainations someone can give for being a virgin past the teen years / early 20s. It has to be some kind of mental disorder, self-esteem issue, health issue, social pressure effect or spiritual reason.
Unless you're a catholic priest, a nun, a hardcore christian or a disabled person, I think the problem is inside your mind, whatever the reason may be.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Mason Verger posted:

You can not buy love or real intimacy.

No, but it will increase your odds of experiencing it. Most women don't like dating poor people who live with their parents for whatever reason. Whenever the topic of intimacy arises here, most advice centers on being an interesting person; in other words, having money. People like being with fit (being able to afford a gym membership and food that's not HFCS-laden poo poo), attractive (Being able to afford beauty products, Dental work, etc.), well-traveled (Travel=Money) people. Unless you have the funds to pull this off, you're hosed.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

(and can't post for 642 days!)

that's why we're running out of poor people, because no one fucks them

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
Hahaha, I will never get tired of hearing that bullshit. Keep telling yourself most women are shallow bitches instead of putting any effort into making yourself a more likeable person. It'll work out real well for you, I'm sure.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

DOOP posted:

What is a 'honeypot thread'?

A thread meant to draw out people to incriminate themselves, usually for trying to get posters banned but also sometimes to just get them to post pathetic poo poo to laugh at them.

There've been a couple of those but for the most part the thread's been played pretty straight. I post in earnest all the time so you know I cannot lie.

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




12gauge posted:

It really does.

Isolation just does horrible things to people, mentally and physically. People are social animals, period. There's pretty solid research on what happens, from prisoners in long-term solitary to old Harry Harlow and his rhesus monkeys. I'm talking about the Pit of Despair experiments; if anybody's curious enough to look it up, check out what happened to experimental subjects that were reintroduced to the general population.

Why are you conflating not having sex with not socialising with people?

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Forceholy posted:

No, but it will increase your odds of experiencing it. Most women don't like dating poor people who live with their parents for whatever reason. Whenever the topic of intimacy arises here, most advice centers on being an interesting person; in other words, having money. People like being with fit (being able to afford a gym membership and food that's not HFCS-laden poo poo), attractive (Being able to afford beauty products, Dental work, etc.), well-traveled (Travel=Money) people. Unless you have the funds to pull this off, you're hosed.

Because people who live at home never, ever get laid, right? Sounds like someone's making excuses...

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Forceholy posted:

No, but it will increase your odds of experiencing it. Most women don't like dating poor people who live with their parents for whatever reason. Whenever the topic of intimacy arises here, most advice centers on being an interesting person; in other words, having money. People like being with fit (being able to afford a gym membership and food that's not HFCS-laden poo poo), attractive (Being able to afford beauty products, Dental work, etc.), well-traveled (Travel=Money) people. Unless you have the funds to pull this off, you're hosed.

The quote was "real intimacy". Yeah money definitely can help get your foot in the door by giving you more opportunities and stories and poo poo, but as for real intimacy unless you work on your personality and being likeable your money won't get you poo poo.

Plus there are plenty of other women in the same boat, or women who are cool with chilling at her place, or women who like to go out rather than back to your parents', or women who are cool with dudes who haven't gotten out on their own for whatever totally legit reasons you have. They're people and there are a lot of different ones! So these are just excuses.

Unless by "women" you mean "independent, well-off, very beautiful women" in which case they might have the luxury of dating men who have all their poo poo together, but if your standards are too high that's on you.

Spiffo fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Mar 2, 2014

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

lidnsya posted:

Hahaha, I will never get tired of hearing that bullshit. Keep telling yourself most women are shallow bitches instead of putting any effort into making yourself a more likeable person. It'll work out real well for you, I'm sure.

Nice Ad Hominem.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Forceholy posted:

Nice Ad Hominem.

It's not an Ad hominem when the subject is your personality.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
Has no one ever seen the millionaire matchmaker show? Rich guys can be loving socially awkward doofuses who don't know the first thing about women as well as any goon here. So yeah money can help, but if you're a loser then you're still SOL.

Demon Of The Fall fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 2, 2014

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

change my name posted:

Because people who live at home never, ever get laid, right? Sounds like someone's making excuses...

If this were even remotely true, Neckbeards wouldn't be a thing.

Spiffo posted:


Unless by "women" you mean "independent, well-off, very beautiful women" in which case they might have the luxury of dating men who have all their poo poo together, but if your standards are too high that's on you.

I meant women in general.

amarantinesky
Aug 29, 2013

Spiffo posted:

The quote was "real intimacy". Yeah money definitely can help get your foot in the door by giving you more opportunities and stories and poo poo, but as for real intimacy unless you work on your personality and being likeable your money won't get you poo poo.

Plus there are plenty of other women in the same boat, or women who are cool with chilling at her place, or women who like to go out rather than back to your parents', or women who are cool with dudes who haven't gotten out on their own for whatever totally legit reasons you have. They're people and there are a lot of different ones! So these are just excuses.

Unless by "women" you mean "independent, well-off, very beautiful women" in which case they might have the luxury of dating men who have all their poo poo together, but if your standards are too high that's on you.

But those women aren't desirable, they're gross/fat/ugly/lame etc. Reference the earlier discussion of "why dudes who are single and virgins obsess about women who are out of their league."

Also I have no idea where this idea that you have to be well-traveled comes from. I guess I'm just poor but I don't know many people who have traveled extensively and it's not an issue. I mean if you've never left the town you were born in, it would be pretty bizarre, but at best, being widely traveled means you have some cool stories and experiences. At worst it means you're a spoiled rich kid who spent summers in Europe instead of at the shore. :colbert:

Demon Of The Fall posted:

Has no one ever seen the millionaire matchmaker show? Rich guys can be loving socially awkward doofuses who don't know the first thing about women as well as any goon here. So yeah money can help, but if you're a loser then you're still SOL.

Soooo you're using reality tv as your example of how money can help you achieve emotional intimacy?

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
Most women I know are totally turned off by men who talk about their material wealth, cars, how often they work out, etc. If you are financially well-off, that's great but there's nothing interesting about it. Just makes you seem arrogant.

Being an interesting, cool person has nothing to do with money. Being poor isn't a dealbreaker if you can take care of yourself. Women are struggling financially just as much. We get it.

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Forceholy posted:

If this were even remotely true, Neckbeards wouldn't be a thing.


I meant women in general.

If you haven't got big tits but are still thin and you love sex and love cooking for your man, especially sandwiches, then you're poo poo out of luck finding a dude to gently caress you.

That's what dudes want. I mean dudes in general.

Go ahead and stereotype all women into liking the same things, this will keep you virginal and pure.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost

amarantinesky posted:

Soooo you're using reality tv as your example of how money can help you achieve emotional intimacy?

Yes I am entirely serious, patty is my personal god

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Shannonmcn posted:

and love cooking for your man, especially sandwiches,

as you can plainly see, the sandwich derail was actually incredibly on-topic

amarantinesky
Aug 29, 2013

Forceholy posted:

No, but it will increase your odds of experiencing it. Most women don't like dating poor people who live with their parents for whatever reason. Whenever the topic of intimacy arises here, most advice centers on being an interesting person; in other words, having money. People like being with fit (being able to afford a gym membership and food that's not HFCS-laden poo poo), attractive (Being able to afford beauty products, Dental work, etc.), well-traveled (Travel=Money) people. Unless you have the funds to pull this off, you're hosed.

Forceholy posted:

I'm not a virgin, but it's been years since I've had sex. I'm 25. It's probably because I'm a boring,poor,depressed shut-in. I can't afford to have a life; therefore, I cannot afford sex or a relationship. That, and I have anxiety when it comes to approaching women. Apparently, I have a fear of failure and success with dating, according to my therapist. To quote the 40-year-old virgin (since that movie is getting a lot of mileage in this thread): "I like women. I respect them. I respect them to the point where I don't talk to them!"

excuses, excuses.

Demon Of The Fall posted:

Yes I am entirely serious, patty is my personal god

glad to hear there's no irony itt.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

amarantinesky posted:

excuses, excuses.

Truths, truths.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

(and can't post for 642 days!)

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost

amarantinesky posted:

glad to hear there's no irony itt.

I never said anything about emotional intimacy, I was using anecdotal evidence to explain that having money and being rich will not help you with women if you're still an ugly loser on the inside.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

(and can't post for 642 days!)

i can't get laid because women are

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Forceholy posted:

Truths, truths.

Do you live in libertopia where you have to pay gold coins to enter the park or visit the library? goondolences.

12gauge
Feb 24, 2014

Chairchucker posted:

Why are you conflating not having sex with not socialising with people?

Shouldn't I? They're symptoms of the same problem to me.

suztan
Jul 4, 2012

Forceholy posted:

No, but it will increase your odds of experiencing it. Most women don't like dating poor people who live with their parents for whatever reason. Whenever the topic of intimacy arises here, most advice centers on being an interesting person; in other words, having money. People like being with fit (being able to afford a gym membership and food that's not HFCS-laden poo poo), attractive (Being able to afford beauty products, Dental work, etc.), well-traveled (Travel=Money) people. Unless you have the funds to pull this off, you're hosed.

I can tell you from direct experience that every single thing you said is bullshit.

If you want to stop being a defeatist loser, you could always put effort into being interesting. No this does not cost any money, because as far as I'm aware, library cards are still free. And unless you count your finances in pennies, Netflix is $9/month. With those two things you can talk to women about anything. You don't have to be a muscly banker Adonis to get women to date you.

EN Bullshit
Apr 5, 2012

suztan posted:

You don't have to be a muscly banker Adonis to get women to date you.

I'm sure it helps if all you want is for the female equivalent of the muscly banker Adonis to date you.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

12gauge posted:

Shouldn't I? They're symptoms of the same problem to me.

A person can be perfectly social, but live within social circles where there aren't many women. In that case sex is only really obtainable through actively seeking it, often through means that would be undesirable to introverts. I'm honestly kind of confused by just how prevalent in this thread the idea that if you haven't thrust your penis in a vagina, or a penis rammed into your vagina, that you're some broken sod that can't interact with people.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

suztan posted:

I can tell you from direct experience that every single thing you said is bullshit.

If you want to stop being a defeatist loser, you could always put effort into being interesting. No this does not cost any money, because as far as I'm aware, library cards are still free. And unless you count your finances in pennies, Netflix is $9/month. With those two things you can talk to women about anything. You don't have to be a muscly banker Adonis to get women to date you.

Netflix gets boring after a while and I doubt ANYONE want to base a relationship off of browsing cinema gems like "Best Worst Movie".

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

suztan posted:

You don't have to be a muscly banker Adonis to get women to date you.

I originally read this as "muscly baker Adonis" and that's arguably even better

EN Bullshit
Apr 5, 2012

Forceholy posted:

Netflix gets boring after a while

If you're doing this, you're boring. Find a boring woman and you're set.

amarantinesky
Aug 29, 2013

Demon Of The Fall posted:

I never said anything about emotional intimacy, I was using anecdotal evidence to explain that having money and being rich will not help you with women if you're still an ugly loser on the inside.

It was a joke. :colbert:

(didn't you say the opposite at first, though? you edited your post on me)

Char posted:

What do you mean "it really doesn't have to be that way" ? I mean, I don't think there are many explainations someone can give for being a virgin past the teen years / early 20s. It has to be some kind of mental disorder, self-esteem issue, health issue, social pressure effect or spiritual reason.
Unless you're a catholic priest, a nun, a hardcore christian or a disabled person, I think the problem is inside your mind, whatever the reason may be.

Oh I am assuming that there's probably associated mental health issues. I just think there's a difference between being depressed and being a total nutcase who whimpers at nudity and then flips out when your girlfriend gets tired of dealing with that. I think that those people who continually build up sex but are also afraid of it are pretty likely to fall into the basket case category. But I don't think that everyone who hasn't had sex by 22 is doomed and I sincerely hope that most virgoons can find happiness in their relationships.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

FoolyCharged posted:

A person can be perfectly social, but live within social circles where there aren't many women. In that case sex is only really obtainable through actively seeking it, often through means that would be undesirable to introverts. I'm honestly kind of confused by just how prevalent in this thread the idea that if you haven't
thrust your penis in a vagina, or a penis rammed into your vagina, that you're some broken sod that can't interact with people.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

EN Bullshit posted:

If you're doing this, you're boring. Find a boring woman and you're set.

Aren't you the guy who wants to gently caress college girls in his mid-30s who can't budget to save his life.

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Mar 2, 2014

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Women are simultaneously too scary and mysterious to talk to as if they're actual people and so apparently so shallow and homogenous I don't know why you would want to.

If you can make friends with a man you can make friends with a woman and guess what? Sometimes friends end up as more than friends! If you're not a spergy weirdo!

amarantinesky
Aug 29, 2013

I've learned so much from this thread.

Did you know that the people who really, truly understand women THE MOST are the virgins? I know it sounds crazy but it must be true! Don't believe all these women and dudes who are getting laid regularly; instead, take the advice of the guys who are so aware of what women want that they can't even try to talk to one.

EN Bullshit
Apr 5, 2012

Shannonmcn posted:

Sometimes friends end up as more than friends!

Eh. I think this is the thinking of dudes who try to be friends with a woman and then get upset when they decide they've been friends long enough to make a move and then cry about being "friend-zoned".

amarantinesky posted:

guys who are so aware of what women want that they can't even try to talk to one.

I am aware that women would rather I not try to talk to them.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
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Shannonmcn posted:

Women are simultaneously too scary and mysterious to talk to as if they're actual people and so apparently so shallow and homogenous I don't know why you would want to.

If you can make friends with a man you can make friends with a woman and guess what? Sometimes friends end up as more than friends! If you're not a spergy weirdo!

You may be implying that women are actual people and not sex slot machines and I'm afraid I don't follow.

suztan
Jul 4, 2012

Forceholy posted:

Netflix gets boring after a while and I doubt ANYONE want to base a relationship off of browsing cinema gems like "Best Worst Movie".

See, I don't understand this logic, because I don't know anyone who wouldn't want to base a relationship off a shared interest in The Room.

Also if you think Netflix is boring you might have bigger problems than "why won't ladies touch my dong???".

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teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

EN Bullshit posted:

Eh. I think this is the thinking of dudes who try to be friends with a woman and then get upset when they decide they've been friends long enough to make a move and then cry about being "friend-zoned".

That's why I felt the need to add the "spergy weirdo" caveat.

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