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serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

what's a cougar bar

where your mom goes

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Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




serious norman posted:

where your mom goes

I dunno, I think it would be super awkward trying to pick up at the bar my mum was at.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

ZHamburglar posted:

Hey virgoons, go to a cougar bar and hang around till closing time multiple times a week. Seriously as long as you have a penis you will get laid. The only reason you are still a virgin is because you are putting yourself out there.

To be serious here, I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue that most people have. Or the issue that I had.

I wasn't a virgin till age 24 because I couldn't rationally make it happen. I was a virgin for so long because I suffered from extremely low self-esteem, PTSD and other anxiety-related mental illnesses, and the fact that I was a self-medicating drug addict. Not because I wasn't attractive or couldn't make it happen "in theory".

And I must say that it's taken me a long time to stop blaming myself, despising myself, and thinking that I didn't deserve to be happy or have intimacy with other people.

Tjadeth
Sep 16, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion
VOLUNTEER
:nyan:

g r r nasty posted:

they could be asexual or just undesirable

I'm a misanthrope with a low libido and I have pretty high self-esteem and satisfaction with my life, especially in comparison to all the other women I know around my age, who are flipping the gently caress out over ~doing their twenties right~ and just generally being very depressed and lonely to an extent that bemuses me. I've got a job, I've got some money, I have spare time to masturbate, I have a sweet used car and when spring finally hits I can get it out on the town to do my boring-rear end solitary hobbies (hiking, shopping, geocaching, gardening, taking pictures of interesting trees, etc). Most of the women I know are in the same situation, but they feel like there's something missing. Maybe for them there is.

Though honestly I think virgin-neurosis hits guys harder--virginity is considered less desirable in men, and the ones who are inclined to let panic build over their circumstances seem to have trouble backing down from that ledge.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

12gauge posted:

I had a bit of rant about that here, deleted it because what's the point really..mind if I ask, what did you take that backfired?

I honestly don't remember other than that it was an antidepressant & supplement combination. I'm kinda godawful with names


kaworu posted:

To be serious here, I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue that most people have. Or the issue that I had.

Yeah, just going out and having sex with a random person won't help most people who are virgins much at all. Those who don't care about being a virgin won't care enough to do it and will be just fine. Of those that do care, at least in this thread, the number that feel that being a virgin is the problem rather than a symptom of some bigger issue are at best a minuscule portion of those present.

insufficient guns
May 4, 2009

personally, I would
like to fuck Wall-E

  :h: :roboluv: :h:

Forceholy posted:

No, but it will increase your odds of experiencing it. Most women don't like dating poor people who live with their parents for whatever reason. Whenever the topic of intimacy arises here, most advice centers on being an interesting person; in other words, having money. People like being with fit (being able to afford a gym membership and food that's not HFCS-laden poo poo), attractive (Being able to afford beauty products, Dental work, etc.), well-traveled (Travel=Money) people. Unless you have the funds to pull this off, you're hosed.

My boyfriend is broke as poo poo, has love handles, and doesn't have a passport. I have money, no love handles and a passport. We had sex like 5 times this weekend.

You're just a bitter misogynist, sorry.

Arakan
May 10, 2008

After some persuasion, Fluttershy finally opens up, and Twilight's more than happy to oblige in doing her best performance as a nice, obedient wolf-puppy.
sucks about your loser boyfriend

EN Bullshit
Apr 5, 2012

Arakan posted:

sucks about your loser boyfriend

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Arakan posted:

sucks about your loser boyfriend

his parents were killed in a freak passport accident, he spends all his money on charity and sweet rave parties and the love handles are surgically attached so she can ride him like some kind of bucking bronco affair



why judge before youve heard the full story??

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

(and can't post for 643 days!)

insufficient guns posted:

My boyfriend is broke as poo poo, has love handles, and doesn't have a passport. I have money, no love handles and a passport. We had sex like 5 times this weekend.

You're just a bitter misogynist, sorry.

because your boyfriend is a robot, yes?

benzine
Oct 21, 2010
I wonder how some of the virgoons look, I imagine some must look normal.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

lidnsya posted:

Most women I know are totally turned off by men who talk about their material wealth, cars, how often they work out, etc. If you are financially well-off, that's great but there's nothing interesting about it. Just makes you seem arrogant.

Being an interesting, cool person has nothing to do with money. Being poor isn't a dealbreaker if you can take care of yourself. Women are struggling financially just as much. We get it.

Having a lot of money makes you more attractive to women, from what I have seen in my experience.

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

tbp posted:

Having a lot of money makes you more attractive to women, from what I have seen in my experience.

Having loads of money makes you more attractive to everyone. Greed isn't gender specific.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

benzine posted:

I wonder how some of the virgoons look, I imagine some must look normal.

I'd like to imagine that I'm fairly attractive on account of never actually having been turned down, but I'm also fairly overweight(Freshman 15? more like freshman 50) and just now getting a hold back on my physical shape.

The Darlok
May 25, 2006

I am watching you.

benzine posted:

I wonder how some of the virgoons look, I imagine some must look normal.

I don't know why I'm posting here but I think I look pretty normal. I ain't handsome or nothin but I don't think I'm ugly and I'm pretty jacked(23 yo, 5'7", 170 lbs, low bf).

I do non-nerdy poo poo like lifting a lot of weights and doing a lot of MMA training. But also I'm a math major and I'm on the computer a lot because I don't have much of a social life. I have bad anxiety and self-esteem issues.

However I have my first date either friday or saturday... I really like her, we've been hanging out for a little bit now. So maybe there's hope after all.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

(and can't post for 643 days!)

benzine posted:

I wonder how some of the virgoons look, I imagine some must look normal.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3612156

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

tbp posted:

Having a lot of money makes you more attractive to women, from what I have seen in my experience.

Having a loving personality does the same thing.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
I don't know. I wouldn't want to be with someone in a much higher financial class. I don't know how I could respect myself if I was being taken care of and not having to work for anything.
I've also rarely met a rich person who didn't get there by loving others over.

Also yeah if someone only wants you for your money, is that someone you want to be with?

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Arakan posted:

sucks about your loser boyfriend

I too describe the people I date as fat, poor, and uncultured.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
I can't imagine what a smug douchebag you would have to be to pride yourself on being more cultured because you've traveled.
Holy poo poo do you guys ever need to talk to some actual women instead of assuming we like that crap.
Having a good personality is hands down the most important thing and if you define yourself by your money, your car, the places you've been, how much you lift, etc. then you come across as having no personality besides self-absorbed.

Edit: not that those things are bad or that you shouldn't be proud of them, but they are material things that people can learn about you on their own. Bragging about them or calling other people down for not having them is unattractive.

lidnsya fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Mar 3, 2014

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

They're talking to actual women here and nothing seems to be changing.

benzine
Oct 21, 2010

He looks normal, very nerd. But personality wise who knows, I guess a little clingy.

Recently a friend of mine lost it at 25. Not very good looking, but I remember he had some opportunities and even some girlfriends. The problem was his lack of self-esteem that prevented any action, and with time I felt it was a heavy burden at least in his mind for him.

12gauge
Feb 24, 2014

benzine posted:

I wonder how some of the virgoons look, I imagine some must look normal.
Yeah. I look normal. I looked good before I gave up on myself and turned into a fatass.

It's pretty common for the forever-alone guys to assume we're horribly ugly, have lovely genetics, that women shriek and throw feces at any guy under 5' 11" height, etc.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Shannonmcn posted:

Having loads of money makes you more attractive to everyone. Greed isn't gender specific.

Please. How often do you hear about male golddiggers?

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

lidnsya posted:

I can't imagine what a smug douchebag you would have to be to pride yourself on being more cultured because you've traveled.
Holy poo poo do you guys ever need to talk to some actual women instead of assuming we like that crap.
Having a good personality is hands down the most important thing and if you define yourself by your money, your car, the places you've been, how much you lift, etc. then you come across as having no personality besides self-absorbed.

Edit: not that those things are bad or that you shouldn't be proud of them, but they are material things that people can learn about you on their own. Bragging about them or calling other people down for not having them is unattractive.

Then explain why people find foreign accents attractive.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
Christ Forceholy how about reading what actual women are saying to you instead of ignoring it and believing whatever lovely loving media representation of women you're basing your beliefs on.

I have seen more girls being leeched off by guys than the other way around.

Different people find different things attractive. No one is going to date someone based solely on their accent.

lidnsya fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 3, 2014

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Forceholy posted:

Please. How often do you hear about male golddiggers?

Considering the vast majority of ridiculously wealthy people are men I think you have patriarchy to blame for that.

amarantinesky
Aug 29, 2013

lidnsya posted:

Christ Forceholy how about reading what actual women are saying to you instead of ignoring it and believing whatever lovely loving media representation of women you're basing your beliefs on.

I have seen more girls being leeched off by guys than the other way around.

Because this narrative lets him believe that his lack of sex / relationships is due to economic factors and women being shallow bitches.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

lidnsya posted:

Christ Forceholy how about reading what actual women are saying to you instead of ignoring it and believing whatever lovely loving media representation of women you're basing your beliefs on.

I have seen more girls being leeched off by guys than the other way around.

Different people find different things attractive. No one is going to date someone based solely on their accent.

No, but the accent will improve your odds. If you have two similar men with the same backgrounds, education, income, whatever, but one guy talks in an Irish accent, odds are the Irish guy won't be single for long.

Also, it's cute you think deadbeat guys are leeches when odds are the girl is trying to "fix" him.

suztan
Jul 4, 2012

amarantinesky posted:

Because this narrative lets him believe that his lack of sex / relationships is due to economic factors and women being shallow bitches.

Otherwise he'll have to confront the fact that he has a lovely personality that no woman would willingly associate with, and that's terrible.

Saint Twisty
Mar 12, 2012

Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.
I just want ppl to be around me male or female I don't care

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Forceholy needs to get his rear end back to r/mensrights.

ZergFluid
Feb 20, 2014

by XyloJW

suztan posted:

Otherwise he'll have to confront the fact that he has a lovely personality that no woman would willingly associate with, and that's terrible.

Jesus christ is this cruel.

Look, here's the thing: There are plenty of women out there who are this guy (or any uber-nerd's) equivalents in terms of attractiveness, personality, social rank, etc. Decades ago the two of them would have gotten together and wed. The sexual revolution however has allowed the women who are equivalents of this guy in terms of sex rank (i.e, 1 to 10 scale) to date men who are higher on the sex rank ladder, all because in our somewhat libertarian sexual enviroment, the top 20% of guys can get more than fair share of women, which puts pressure on the guy's below them on the ladder to date down just to get girlfriends, and to date even further down if they want to mimic the player behavior of the guys with rank 7 to 10. This basically fucks over the unattractive guys.

The nicest thing we can do for those guys who have sex ranks of 1 to 4 is to legalize prostitution.

teenytinymouse
Aug 3, 2005

I'm Shannon and I'm the biggest Idiot Ever!

Cool we've gotten to sexual capitalism already. Because women are the same as money and goods.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
I've been saying these things in hopes that some of the guys with lovely confidence will start to realize they don't have to be this ideal rich perfect man for women to like them. Because that is the truth.

Forceholy however you are a misogynist coward and no woman who doesn't have major mental health issues will be with someone like that.

April
Jul 3, 2006


ZergFluid posted:

Jesus christ is this cruel.

Look, here's the thing: There are plenty of women out there who are this guy (or any uber-nerd's) equivalents in terms of attractiveness, personality, social rank, etc. Decades ago the two of them would have gotten together and wed. The sexual revolution however has allowed the women who are equivalents of this guy in terms of sex rank (i.e, 1 to 10 scale) to date men who are higher on the sex rank ladder, all because in our somewhat libertarian sexual enviroment, the top 20% of guys can get more than fair share of women, which puts pressure on the guy's below them on the ladder to date down just to get girlfriends, and to date even further down if they want to mimic the player behavior of the guys with rank 7 to 10. This basically fucks over the unattractive guys.

The nicest thing we can do for those guys who have sex ranks of 1 to 4 is to legalize prostitution.

People actually do the 1-10 thing in real life? Jesus.

Tokyo Sex Whale
Oct 9, 2012

"My butt smells like vanilla ice cream"

ZergFluid posted:

Jesus christ is this cruel.

Look, here's the thing: There are plenty of women out there who are this guy (or any uber-nerd's) equivalents in terms of attractiveness, personality, social rank, etc. Decades ago the two of them would have gotten together and wed. The sexual revolution however has allowed the women who are equivalents of this guy in terms of sex rank (i.e, 1 to 10 scale) to date men who are higher on the sex rank ladder, all because in our somewhat libertarian sexual enviroment, the top 20% of guys can get more than fair share of women, which puts pressure on the guy's below them on the ladder to date down just to get girlfriends, and to date even further down if they want to mimic the player behavior of the guys with rank 7 to 10. This basically fucks over the unattractive guys.

The nicest thing we can do for those guys who have sex ranks of 1 to 4 is to legalize prostitution.

What is your sex rank

amarantinesky
Aug 29, 2013

ZergFluid posted:

Jesus christ is this cruel.

Look, here's the thing: There are plenty of women out there who are this guy (or any uber-nerd's) equivalents in terms of attractiveness, personality, social rank, etc. Decades ago the two of them would have gotten together and wed. The sexual revolution however has allowed the women who are equivalents of this guy in terms of sex rank (i.e, 1 to 10 scale) to date men who are higher on the sex rank ladder, all because in our somewhat libertarian sexual enviroment, the top 20% of guys can get more than fair share of women, which puts pressure on the guy's below them on the ladder to date down just to get girlfriends, and to date even further down if they want to mimic the player behavior of the guys with rank 7 to 10. This basically fucks over the unattractive guys.

The nicest thing we can do for those guys who have sex ranks of 1 to 4 is to legalize prostitution.

How is this thread becoming even worse and more pathetic, jesus.

Twisty of Fate posted:

I just want ppl to be around me male or female I don't care

This makes you one of the more normal people itt so it will probably even happen.

ZergFluid
Feb 20, 2014

by XyloJW

Shannonmcn posted:

Cool we've gotten to sexual capitalism already. Because women are the same as money and goods.

By the way did you see this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1ifNaNABY

It's ultimate conclusion is feminist friendly because they blame young men.

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Gay but Spooky
Oct 25, 2005

ZergFluid posted:

Jesus christ is this cruel.

Look, here's the thing: There are plenty of women out there who are this guy (or any uber-nerd's) equivalents in terms of attractiveness, personality, social rank, etc. Decades ago the two of them would have gotten together and wed. The sexual revolution however has allowed the women who are equivalents of this guy in terms of sex rank (i.e, 1 to 10 scale) to date men who are higher on the sex rank ladder, all because in our somewhat libertarian sexual enviroment, the top 20% of guys can get more than fair share of women, which puts pressure on the guy's below them on the ladder to date down just to get girlfriends, and to date even further down if they want to mimic the player behavior of the guys with rank 7 to 10. This basically fucks over the unattractive guys.

The nicest thing we can do for those guys who have sex ranks of 1 to 4 is to legalize prostitution.

Ahahahaha the loving sex ladder


these forums are amazing

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