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"Construction is progressing well and your stronghold should be ready in one week!" *stands stock still staring directly at construction manager for an entire week* dagoth ur can wait (Also my phone autocorrected "dagoth" to "da goty"  )
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Hog Butcher posted:You can't pay gold to guards, they take you to prison no matter what. edit: You can pay but you still get pulled to the nearest prison for... I dunno, it's the closest automated teller mudcrab I saw the thumbnail version of this pic and wandered what game it was from, seeing how it couldn't possibly be Oblivion because the person in it looks at least remotely human and not at all like a potato. Okay well he looks a little like a potato but not an Oblivion potato.
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Mar 2, 2014 17:24
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GreatGreen posted:I saw the thumbnail version of this pic and wandered what game it was from, seeing how it couldn't possibly be Oblivion because the person in it looks at least remotely human and not at all like a potato. Okay well he looks a little like a potato but not an Oblivion potato. That's because it's a helmet. As soon as he takes it off, his face will leak out as it should be.
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Mar 2, 2014 17:35
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Disco Infiva posted:That's because it's a helmet. As soon as he takes it off, his face will leak out as it should be.   the first guy is clipped into the wall. I was going to drag them next to each other and see if they were identical indoriltwins. It looks like they are new game: tell me to go find something in morrowind and i will find it and see if they hosed it up. I will take video of the best fuckup things. edit: who the gently caress can see me, i'm in a sealed vault with nobody else in it? is a storm atronach in another cell going to rat on me to the other dead ordinator??
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Mar 2, 2014 20:03
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Why are the loving artifacts in Skyrim so lovely? I mean, I just found the Cuirass of the Saviour's Hide, and it only has like 15 magic resistance compared to the 60 or so it had in Morrowind.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:14
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SunAndSpring posted:Why are the loving artifacts in Skyrim so lovely? I mean, I just found the Cuirass of the Saviour's Hide, and it only has like 15 magic resistance compared to the 60 or so it had in Morrowind. They're all levelled so the earlier you get it the more useless it is. Except for that one which is always poo poo. The only value to it is sometimes after you skin the werewolf and take a nap, its skin respawns AND it respawns so it's just standing around watching you skin it over and over for money.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:23
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Hog Butcher posted:They're all levelled so the earlier you get it the more useless it is. None of the Daedric artifacts are leveled. They just all suck poo poo because Bethesda is scared to let people break the game in fun ways.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:30
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SunAndSpring posted:None of the Daedric artifacts are leveled. They just all suck poo poo because Bethesda is scared to let people break the game in fun ways. Which is a shame, because its easy to bbreak in unfun ways. I ran through dozens of Oblivion gates completely invisible thanks to chameleon armor, but it wasn't really fun or engaging.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:40
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I used Mehrune's Razor through the entire game and dualwielded so there was a reasonable chance that stuff I was fighting just fell over.
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Mar 2, 2014 21:16
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Start new game, play pure mage (preferably selecting the pre generated class), store bought spells only, no alchemy/spellmaking/enchanting and wander around instead of abusing poo poo. BOOM! (drat you nerds for making me re-install this  )
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Mar 2, 2014 22:06
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Instead of smashing bugs for 100 hours I console console commanded myself a bunch of gold and paid skill trainers. Then I took nap after nap and went instantly up to level 17, and created a 100 second levitate spell at the Mage guild. NOW I'll stop cheesing and play straight, flying and shooting low power fireballs at level appropriate enemies like a boss. Also thank you dark brotherhood for attacking me after sleeping because you left me two medium low power poison swords with 50 charges each, that should get me though any spooky dungeon for some time
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Mar 2, 2014 22:22
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The list of leveled unique artifacts in Skyrim is actually very short, and there isn't much on it you'd really want to use aside from the kit you get for completing the thieves guild questline. In Oblivion, on the other hand, practically all the good loot was leveled, to the point where I always played with the Quest Award Leveler mod to keep my poo poo from being obsoleted. All this is kind of moot because you'll find better randomly generated gear on bandit cheiftans in both games anyway.
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Mar 2, 2014 22:26
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Do constant effect summon enchants actually work? Because I found a blaze ring that could fit a fire atro in it for the low low price of 95k gold!
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Mar 2, 2014 22:27
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The Protagonist posted:Do constant effect summon enchants actually work? Because I found a blaze ring that could fit a fire atro in it for the low low price of 95k gold! it works but im pretty sure you have to re-equip the item to resummon it make spell soul trap on target 1 second summon [creature] 1 second ONLY CAST AT YOUR FEET. congrats on your permanent summon.
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Mar 2, 2014 22:29
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kazr posted:it works but im pretty sure you have to re-equip the item to resummon it
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I never had a problem with it but I haven't tried it lately. Either that clanfear never died or the ring resummoned it as soon as it did, I'm about 90% sure it was the second one because I don't remember ever having to take the ring off. Also go to the other thread and get the summon mudcrab spell someone made and made a ring for that because yay mudcrab buddy.
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Mar 3, 2014 00:12
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Is that mod that expands on House Redoran any good? Lorewise, they're pretty rad (bunch of samurai lords who are racist beneath a polite veneer who can come to respect you through your feats of might), but their quests are boring as hell.
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Mar 3, 2014 00:48
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Sorry guys, you might be right. Morroblivion is pretty bland as gently caress. The feel of combat is much better in the Oblvion engine but everything else is just slightly off. I repent.
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Mar 3, 2014 02:00
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omg chael crash posted:Sorry guys, you might be right. Morroblivion is pretty bland as gently caress. The feel of combat is much better in the Oblvion engine but everything else is just slightly off. I repent. Welcome back
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Mar 3, 2014 03:33
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Plus that beefcake posted a recently isn't my Jiub, no sir.
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SunAndSpring posted:Why are the loving artifacts in Skyrim so lovely? I mean, I just found the Cuirass of the Saviour's Hide, and it only has like 15 magic resistance compared to the 60 or so it had in Morrowind. As a single player game, items need to be intricately balanced, because
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Mar 3, 2014 05:27
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You don't want someone accidentally breaking the main quest or wait nevermind hoooooooooooooly poo poo http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Essential_NPCs
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Mar 3, 2014 05:28
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Mortimer posted:You don't want someone accidentally breaking the main quest or Couldn't they have just let us kill all of those NPCs or give story explanations for why we can't just walk up to them and murder them? Like, say I want to kill Ulfric Stormcloak. Well, in game as it is I can just walk up to Windhelm and stab the poo poo out of him, but he won't die unless I do the Imperial Legion quest line first. So, why not just surround Ulfric with really tough guards and let players attempt to slay him if they wish? Besides, killing him won't completely end the war; there are still angry Nords wanting to claim independence from the Legion. Just have one of his generals come out of hiding or some poo poo when you siege Windhelm if you kill Ulfric. But gently caress that, writing takes effort and Bethesda cannot waste their precious effort supplies.
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Mar 3, 2014 05:51
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Mortimer posted:You don't want someone accidentally breaking the main quest or Lol, I was just playing the College of Winterhold questline today and tried to murder that fucker Ancano after he tried to force me to listen to his whiny rear end for the third time. It's total crap that you can't kill him for being an annoying twit.
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SunAndSpring posted:Couldn't they have just let us kill all of those NPCs or give story explanations for why we can't just walk up to them and murder them? Like, say I want to kill Ulfric Stormcloak. Well, in game as it is I can just walk up to Windhelm and stab the poo poo out of him, but he won't die unless I do the Imperial Legion quest line first. So, why not just surround Ulfric with really tough guards and let players attempt to slay him if they wish? Besides, killing him won't completely end the war; there are still angry Nords wanting to claim independence from the Legion. Just have one of his generals come out of hiding or some poo poo when you siege Windhelm if you kill Ulfric. god forbid bethesda have to script in some kind of handler for killing one of two major warring faction leaders ahead of the predetermined questing schedule, that sounds like way more work than not doing it
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Mar 3, 2014 08:09
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But but but guys don't you want to experience Todd Howard's perfect vision of his great story of "hero kills dragon"?
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SunAndSpring posted:why not just surround Ulfric with really tough guards and let players attempt to slay him if they wish? Yeah the fact that very important people have no real guards or defences, in the middle of a war, makes the game really weird anyway. As a telvanni wizard you can have a huge tower that's only accessible by levitation, patrolled by guards, powerful mages and Dwemer bots. As prospective king of Skyrim beset on all sides by enemies, you have like one dude standing next to you in your empty, open castle.
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The first time I played through Skyrim, as a mage, the main quest broke and there was no way to follow it any further. So I just looked around at each of the cities, did the College quests, and finally ended up in that city in the southeast - Riften I think? After doing some quest regarding a guy who was locked up for defying his mother or something, I realized I didn't like how the old lady and her family unofficially running the town were doing things and decided out of boredom to go kill them. No matter how many guards died though, they just kept going into a crouch before getting back up. And then I stopped playing and haven't really managed to pick it up again.
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more than anything else, the fact that they write a story that requires "essential NPCs" shows they've completely forgotten that their games are supposed to be about player freedom and open worlds, in favour of... uh... something else?
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Mar 3, 2014 09:13
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Skyrim or as I played it, find a slight hill giants won't climb or stand inside a doorway and shoot them a whole bunch dot com and mastodons too
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I actually sort of get the essential NPC thing because NPCs in Morrowind stayed in the same place and didn't wander of and accidentally get themselves killed like the ones in Skyrim and Oblivion can. It would be a bit strange if you were out jumping around and collecting plants when suddenly you got a notification that the MQ was closed of because some important dude walked off a cliff. It's still really boring though.
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Mar 3, 2014 10:38
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Easy to solve. Make NPCs just truly killable by the player, else they just go into "bleedout"-state. The Skyrim engine even already supports this. It's just Bethesda pandering to the Console-bro demographic to make the game not too confusing. Generally I think they wanted to go places with friendly NPCs dying on the player, because there's stuff for it implemented in game, like the player "inheriting" money from dead NPCs with a high disposition or relatives/apprentices etc. taking over shops when the original shopkeeper died. I once poked around in the Skyrim engine back when it came out and had the feeling they wanted to do a lot more but a lot ended up on the cutting floor early on or was only half-implemented. Police Automaton fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Yeah the fact that very important people have no real guards or defences, in the middle of a war, makes the game really weird anyway. As a telvanni wizard you can have a huge tower that's only accessible by levitation, patrolled by guards, powerful mages and Dwemer bots. As prospective king of Skyrim beset on all sides by enemies, you have like one dude standing next to you in your empty, open castle. Compare trying to kill any given noble in Skyrim to trying to kill Caesar in New Vegas. What a piece of poo poo.
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The console-bro demographic has trampled on my video-game role-playing joy-sessions for the last time！！
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Mar 3, 2014 11:58
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:As a telvanni wizard you can have a huge tower that's only accessible by levitation, patrolled by guards, powerful mages and Dwemer bots. Well in the Skyrim era they apparently have no guards, one useless apprentice and have a convenient elevator that anyone can wander in and use to get up into their tower.
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why the gently caress are people talking about morroblivion when skywind is just around the corner?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18hdJ55ryY looks neat so far
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Police Automaton posted:It's just Bethesda pandering to the Console-bro demographic to make the game not too confusing. Except Fallout 3 had comparatively few essential NPCs outside of the unkillable children. Killing important NPCs usually let you loot their corpses to get essential info and items and you could break sequence to the point where you skip the entire first act of the game by wandering into a random garage and poking around.
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Averrences posted:why the gently caress are people talking about morroblivion when skywind is just around the corner? *walks into a room full of poorly-sized objects, is instantly blinded by the bloom off sellus gravius' armour, everyone else is naked* yep looks neat
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thehumandignity posted:And here's something else I found while exploring Vivec. Spoilered for long. I just like the reference to Harald Hands-Free (as opposed to Harald Blutetooth). Such a cheesy joke. I actually stumbled across that tomb out of nowhere while out exploring and it was such a  moment
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Beeswax posted:I just like the reference to Harald Hands-Free (as opposed to Harald Blutetooth). Such a cheesy joke. Ahahahahhahaha I didn't even put that together
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