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the main idea in rendezvous with rama, i.e. that some alien artifact might show up and have zero interest in talking to us (spoilered because maybe someone hasn't read it yet?) is interesting, but isn't much to carry an entire story on. all the alien tech that he spends so much time describing seems pretty dated even by human standards these days (as does the thought that we'd only know of 800,000 asteroids by the year whatever it is). it'd still be pretty cool as a movie if it could ever get out of development hell and be done properly childhood's end is more interesting, even if it's quite a bit more towards the soft end of the sci-fi hardness scale i think the main problem with clarke (and don't take this as too much of a criticism, because i still love the guy) is that he gets a clever idea in his head for a story and then spends the whole book building up how clever it is before revealing it. so each story just becomes padding for whatever his cool idea was. and of course all of his characters are interchangeable.
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i like arthur c. clarke i just don't care for rama
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:also rendezvous with rama is way overrated yeah it isn't really on the same level as other golden age classics like foundation
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the church of christ cosmonaut was my favorite part of rwr, hell yeah space religion general rule of thumb for bsg seems to be that it's pretty great up through season 2.5, but then episodes start showing up separate from any of the arcs (spacebar hostage crisis episode, spaceabortion debate episode, etc) and they're pretty bad and dumb, then it utterly crashes and burns at some point during season 3 (don't know for sure, haven't gotten there yet and probably will spare myself) i tried to watch 1978 bsg but it hasn't aged well at all. watch space mutiny if you want to catch those sicknasty ILM spaceship effects in a much more engaging context.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i like arthur c. clarke i just don't care for rama
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:to be fair, the original bsg pilot was made on a hollywood movie budget. scenes using that bsg model were the very best special effects money could buy in 1978. (then they just recycled the same clips to make the rest of the episodes) yeah i understand why they had to use cgi for the ships etc. (and it certainly did get better towards the end of the series but thats not surprising), but its still a little disappointing, particularly the cylons
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:... blindsight ... owns this
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Beeftweeter posted:ok just watched razor razor was 2007, so bad cgi was even more shameful Notorious b.s.d. posted:to be fair, the original bsg pilot was made on a hollywood movie budget. scenes using that bsg model were the very best special effects money could buy in 1978. (then they just recycled the same clips to make the rest of the episodes) lucas actually sued because he thought bsg ripped off star wars too much. i think they even used some of the same effects guys. the original show was also originally intended to be a series of like once-a-month TV movies, and when the network said "nah gently caress that, order up a full season of weekly episodes" it really hosed up the production (hence why some of the effects shots got overused so badly) FMguru posted:as meh and overrated as rama is, its a thousand times better than any of its sequels the sequels aren't just bad, they're p. gross too gentry lee's got some issues
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Mar 3, 2014 09:00
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The last ep of bsg owned because when's the last time you saw a starship captain rolling around in his own vomit in a back alley?
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SynthOrange posted:The last ep of bsg owned because when's the last time you saw a starship captain rolling around in his own vomit in a back alley? like every time Patrick Stewart and Ian mckellan go out drinking
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on a semi sci-fi note i have less and less confidence in the new cosmos being anything other than an utter shitshow i mean, its fate was sealed the minute that seth mcfarlane got involved but i held a glimmer of hope it would be quiet, contemplative and bleep bloopy, but the likelihood of that happening is about nil 
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Stymie posted:seth mcfarlane
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yeah it's true, like it or not he has a lot of pull with fox I still trust tyson-sensei~
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i really don't know why you would suspect it is going to be anything but. seth macfarlane is p well educated and smart and i think he knows how to do homage when needed. i'm looking forward to it a lot, and hoping seth left the family guy poo poo with his fg writing staff i'm willing to bet cosmos wouldn't have even gotten a chance for revival if it wasn't for seth tbqh
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Stymie posted:on a semi sci-fi note i have less and less confidence in the new cosmos being anything other than an utter shitshow considering they made the commercials look a trailer to the next summer action blockbuster, i'm gonna assume it's going to be a clownshow
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Stymie posted:on a semi sci-fi note i have less and less confidence in the new cosmos being anything other than an utter shitshow agreeing with stymie still hoping it's going to be good though obviously
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lucas actually sued because he thought bsg ripped off star wars too much. i think they even used some of the same effects guys. i actually looked up the budgets star wars, '77: $8.25 million bsg, '78: $7 million and yeah, BSG used some guys from ILM, the firm that did star wars
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i actually looked up the budgets
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i actually looked up the budgets
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hubris.height posted:i really don't know why you would suspect it is going to be anything but. seth macfarlane is p well educated and smart and i think he knows how to do homage when needed. i'm looking forward to it a lot, and hoping seth left the family guy poo poo with his fg writing staff just be greatful it isnt michio kaku
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:just be greatful it isnt michio kaku 
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:just be greatful it isnt michio kaku knowing fox we're lucky it isn't deepak chopra
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:should always be this guy lol why's his title blurred out
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Shaggar posted:londo rules
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol why's his title blurred out dunno, was the first thing that popped up on gis
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Shaggar posted:lond
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:i'm gonna assume it's going to be a clownshow agreed although idk what fox should do instead option a.) make a splashy kaleidoscope with the simplest concepts expanded into hour long explanations and maybe get enough ratings to air an entire season option b.) explain that space is huge and depressing, space travel is miserable, and any attempts to get much farther than the asteroid belt are doomed boondoggles so we might as well finish defunding nasa and leave space to bored billionaires and their robots because gently caress hope
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just watch all the spacerip videos on youtube; who needs network television to make grand outer space non-fiction stuff anymore?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol why's his title blurred out im not gonna say it was aliens, but, it was aliens.
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angry_keebler posted:you gotta open up the pod to get at them and opening the pod defrosts them and they pop up and start doing tough poses yeah except to keep kirk alive while they're dancing on space trucks they pull one of the others out and shove kirk in the tube so your big hypothetical shitshow didn't actually happen i liked the spergin out but c'mon you can't leave low hanging fruit like this around
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i'm gritting my teeth and drat i'm going to finish this shitshow, but holy gently caress thor the dark world is god loving awful
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Sniep posted:im not gonna say it was aliens, but, it was aliens. well theres no evidence it wasn't aliens. ancient aliens even, they blurred out his title long ago and now the secrets are lost to time god i hate that show
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ok i get that i posted the meme but please dont quote me and add onto the meme with more of the same meme it hurts my brand
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So Almost Human season 1 ended without developing the story arc at all. No further explanation about the wall or anything else. Does this mean its canceled and they don't want people to get too attached?
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