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Node posted:Held in a garage. Man, the EQ2 lore dev (Vhalen) looks way less pasty than I imagined him.
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Node posted:I probably would I suppose. Better donate now to make your dream come true!
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Better donate now to make your dream come true! Well now that there are unlimited Ascendant Pledges, I may do just that! Sorry mom, hope you enjoy living on the streets instead of the home!
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Mar 2, 2014 06:35
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The garage is where all self-respecting nerds with a family live.
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Mom what the hell get out, we are trying to develop an MMO in here! And for the last time where is my chocolate milk?!
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Hi posted:Mom what the hell get out, we are trying to develop an MMO in here! And for the last time where is my chocolate milk?! "And no mom these guys are my friends. FreeWifi!! fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Would love to pull up a bar stool or folding chair to soak up the loving vibe of Brad's opium den
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Cool Buff Man posted:Would love to pull up a bar stool or folding chair to soak up the loving vibe of Brad's opium den It's less a vibe and more of a reek
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Zvim posted:The garage is where all self-respecting nerds with a family live. In the garage, Brad feels safe. No one laughs about his ways.
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Zvim posted:The garage is where all self-respecting nerds with a family live. He prefers to call it lower guk. E: Holy poo poo  https://www.pantheonrotf.com/blogs/151/43/why-charge-for-forum-access Meow Tse-tung fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Mar 2, 2014 23:36
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Meow Tse-tung posted:He prefers to call it lower guk. Also, me and my crew need drug money.. and bail money when we get busted for buying drugs from a undercover policeman dressed like a orc.. FreeWifi!! fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 2, 2014 23:44
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Meow Tse-tung posted:He prefers to call it lower guk. quote:1. Create a system that requires people to pay monthly to participate. Why? Sure, to make some cash on the side, but that's not the biggie: the biggie is to weed out those who aren't really serious about having that dialog with us. I love this thread.
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Why is half of that dedicated to supporting "fan sites"? What fan sites? The game isn't even out yet how could there be fan sites? Star Citizen doesn't even have fan sites just an outside wiki. Does Brad not realize there are no such things as fan sites anymore. It's not 1999 anymore.
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randombattle posted:Why is half of that dedicated to supporting "fan sites"? What fan sites? The game isn't even out yet how could there be fan sites? Star Citizen doesn't even have fan sites just an outside wiki. Does Brad not realize there are no such things as fan sites anymore. It's not 1999 anymore. http://pjpantheon.com/ is probably what he was referring to. It's where all of the true faithful had gathered before the pay-to-post forums went up.
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Node posted:
Hewlett Packard's garage is a historical landmark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Garage
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Meow Tse-tung posted:He prefers to call it lower guk. I wonder what would happen if all the sub members wanted to ditch the sub. Would Brad listen to the demand of his fans?
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I wonder what would happen if all the sub members wanted to ditch the sub. Would Brad listen to the demand of his fans? In the future three VISION™ supercomputers will find concurrence in the best course of action for pantheon. Their decision making algorithms will be programmed based on the zeitgeist of 1999, and eventually neither dev nor consumer will be able to override them. Brad's in his garage, all's right with the world.
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randombattle posted:Why is half of that dedicated to supporting "fan sites"? What fan sites? The game isn't even out yet how could there be fan sites? I think someone vetoed the original phrasing, "astroturf".
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Meow Tse-tung posted:He prefers to call it lower guk. That was me. I wrote all that.
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Node posted:That was me. I wrote all that.  
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You can tell this game is going to be good, because all of the team's focus is on the gameplay, not on how many goofy ways you can extort 5 dollars a month out of people that are too stupid to realize they're being bilked
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Cool Buff Man posted:You can tell this game is going to be good, because all of the team's focus is on the gameplay, not on how many goofy ways you can extort 5 dollars a month out of people that are too stupid to realize they're being bilked  "And in this group we have people who are stupid enough to pay a monthly forums fee. Next week well introduce a $25.99 smilies package." "Great job Tom! Meeting over!! Anyone up for some meth?" FreeWifi!! fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Meow Tse-tung posted:He prefers to call it lower guk. Can someone give me a summary?
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As much as some of you are having fun verbally curb-stomping McQuaid's balls repeatedly, what's in that blog post does make sense if you're genuinely trying to engage the community for effective, targeted feedback and ideas. The pay wall actually worked really well for the EQN Landmark forums, for instance - the discussion in the alpha forums has been of a substantially higher quality than you normally find in MMO forums. It'll weed out some legitimately useful feedback, and it's not a strategy that would work if you're creating a run of the mill product, but if you're actively creating something new/unique/niche and you don't really have much competition for your fanbase, enough will be willing to pay for access that it will work. Likewise with the fan site thing - while he rambled on about it far longer than needed, the idea is basically that the official forum has a different focus than the forums typically available for MMOs, whether fan or official. Really the only place I disagree with the idea is that it's a subscription, not a one time fee.
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You assume they are actually making a product.
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Flarestar posted:As much as some of you are having fun verbally curb-stomping McQuaid's balls repeatedly, what's in that blog post does make sense if you're genuinely trying to engage the community for effective, targeted feedback and ideas. The pay wall actually worked really well for the EQN Landmark forums, for instance - the discussion in the alpha forums has been of a substantially higher quality than you normally find in MMO forums. EQNL works well because there are things for players to give feedback on, not just theorycrafting. People can do things in the game, which centers the conversation around the game, and not just people's high-fantasy Minecraft dreaming. The Pantheon cart is ahead of the horse's distant evolutionary predecessors, and not enough exists to keep the fans (or, I suspect, the idea team) doing anything more productive than game-mechanic fan fic. If Pantheon were a fifth as far along as EQNL was at alpha launch, we'd be having a very different conversation.
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Zvim posted:Can someone give me a summary? I've yet to meet anyone who was able to get more than a paragraph in. Flarestar posted:The pay wall actually worked really well for the EQN Landmark forums, for instance - the discussion in the alpha forums has been of a substantially higher quality than you normally find in MMO forums. We're going to have to disagree there. That forum had the worst case of the dumb I've ever seen short of someplace like gamefaqs. It was like a gentrified circlejerk cesspit where you couldn't go more than three posts without someone talking about their grandchildren. I was thinking that maybe it would be better after those idiots stopped making 500+ posts every time a dev sneezed and the game released, but then I made precisely one topic after the game launched, and the first response I got was so absolutely pants-on-head full retarded that I haven't returned since. It's still full of complete idiots, just a richer class of idiots. More the senile, "Obama's a communist from Kenya and I don't trust these newfangled smartphones" crowd rather than the 13 year old f2p crew. Meow Tse-tung fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Meow Tse-tung posted:I've yet to meet anyone who was able to get more than a paragraph in. I stared at it blankly for a few moments before scrolling down to the bottom to read the delusional comments from the people that actually payed to post them. They are the best part of that article.
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Third World Reggin posted:You assume they are actually making a product. I wonder how much Brad is actually paying this "MMO Design Team."
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Zvim posted:Can someone give me a summary? I read about 3 paragraphs, it's basically to make money and only have a community of sycophants who won't troll their forums that they don't have the time or money to moderate.
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Third World Reggin posted:You assume they are actually making a product. If you can get folks to pay for the forum, why actually make a game? The forum becomes the product.
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Huttan posted:If you can get folks to pay for the forum, why actually make a game? The forum becomes the product. This is basically the Star Citizen approach, just replace forum with hanger and model ships.
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Except star citizen is also making a game and has flyable ships and drivable giant robots. Pantheon has some concept art they want you to pay a monthly fee to comment on. Not even crimson haze wanted people to pay for their input.
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Zvim posted:Can someone give me a summary? Why communities and fan-sites are important to games. Lots of marketing spin on that point. They want to listen to fans, your input is important to them, ideas they would never dream of come from magical communities, yada yada. We have two reasons to charge people for monthly forum access: 1. No trolls. Trolls don't pay money to troll. 2. To reduce the white-noise from Idea Guys. Only the most serious fan will want to pay for this amazing opportunity. Also we have polls so we can ignore your spergy input anyways. No really, we love your ideas. Ideas, communities, ideas, goals, fan-sites, ideas. Goals.
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Mayor McCheese posted:1. No trolls. Trolls don't pay money to troll. Oh boy are they in for a surprise. Haven't some posters here been banned like 70+ times and just come right back because it's like a hobby to them?
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randombattle posted:Except star citizen is also making a game and has flyable ships and drivable giant robots. Oh, they finally released something that lets you fly your ships in space?
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Stealth Like posted:Oh, they finally released something that lets you fly your ships in space? Dogfight module is this month or april.
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univbee posted:Oh boy are they in for a surprise. Haven't some posters here been banned like 70+ times and just come right back because it's like a hobby to them? Brad might not remember, but I heard that OG EQ had some people who paid every month to grief other players! Fansy for president.
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Subjunctive posted:Brad might not remember, but I heard that OG EQ had some people who paid every month to grief other players! Fansy for president. Fansy? A griefer? Now I'm just picturing the Sheriff of Nottingham getting progressively angrier each time Robin Hood and his Merry Men rob one of his convoys. "loving griefers," he mutters under his breath in Old English.
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Oh and there was this:quote:Also, when you have to pay for something, anonymity generally goes out the window. The game developers will know who you are, have your contact info, etc. And while some people will do horrible things in a mob, most will not do horrible things as an individual whose name and info is known by those they would have normally wanted to attack. Guys, does that mean Lowtax knows our names? 
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