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cmykjester posted:I miss updates The constant, addiction-reinforcing flow of updates was probably one of the best parts about Homestuck. During particularly active times I'd find myself reflexively opening a tab to MSPA every time I sat at a computer, and often being rewarded for doing so. It's been a tough habit to kick.
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When I saw 48 new posts, I went to MSPA and refreshed before actually clicking the thread here.
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Mar 4, 2014 05:33
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:When I saw 48 new posts, I went to MSPA and refreshed before actually clicking the thread here. loving hell, I don't even remember when the last time I went to MSPA was
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Mar 4, 2014 06:25
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WAMPA_STOMPA posted:When I saw 48 new posts, I went to MSPA and refreshed before actually clicking the thread here. Don't worry, when there's an actual update, the number will be in the hundreds.
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Mar 4, 2014 06:27
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This thread will basically be a scorched-earth no-mans-land of wild reactions and nothing else.
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Mar 4, 2014 06:37
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:I think Homestuck is actually poo poo, you guys. Blackheart posted:I think it's pretty good. Homestuck: actually pretty good poo poo
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Mar 4, 2014 08:43
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Dolash posted:The constant, addiction-reinforcing flow of updates was probably one of the best parts about Homestuck. During particularly active times I'd find myself reflexively opening a tab to MSPA every time I sat at a computer, and often being rewarded for doing so. It's been a tough habit to kick. I preferred waiting for months at a time so I could have 100+ new panels to gobble at once. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that I read all of Homestuck in about 7 days of active reading.
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Mar 4, 2014 12:20
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Can't believe I missed 'best sign' chat. Not that it matters, since Sagittarius is the clear winner anyway. I admit I saw the new batch of posts and assumed there'd actually been a news update at least, though. Homestuck thread, you tease.
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Mar 4, 2014 12:28
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Well there was that store link, how can you say no to your very own lil' cal, to put on a chair beside your bed? Watching you as you sleep like a true bro.
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Mar 4, 2014 17:24
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Tollymain posted:This thread will basically be a scorched-earth no-mans-land of wild reactions and nothing else. If by "wild reactions" you mean "complaints about the fact that MSPA/Newgrounds/[some other website] is down and the update is inaccessible," then yeah.
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Mar 4, 2014 17:32
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:I think Homestuck is actually poo poo, you guys. It was alright until Hussie began dragging things out way too long; specially act 5 and onward. he planned out most of the story in advance, but then he got hung up on trolljunk when people started jumping on board for that. I think even he said if he had the opportunity to make an animated homestuck miniseries, about 90% of the troll stuff would be cut out.
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Mar 4, 2014 17:44
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If %90 of the troll stuff would get cut, then %100 of the post scratch kids poo poo should go too. Nothing of value would be lost.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:15
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Seoinin posted:If %90 of the troll stuff would get cut, then %100 of the post scratch kids poo poo should go too. Nothing of value would be lost.  Roxy. The Best Kid.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:30
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Burkion posted:
In fact, lets go full on corporate about this. Post-Scratch kids? Cut. Nepeta, Vriska, Eridan, Tavros, Sollux and Kanaya? Cut. Jade? Cut. The exiles, guardians, midnight crew, and cherubs? Cut. Act 4? Cut. There, Homestuck is now a viable IP. Woops, look at the time, my golden parachute is about to kick in. Laters. *is yanked upward out of sight as fires spontaneously begin breaking out*
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Mar 4, 2014 19:26
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Really instead of cutting, acts 1-4, act 5, and act 6 could be made into seperate stories instead of one long slog I like all of them but for completely different reasons, and they don't really follow from each other.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:27
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Homestuck, Homestuck Z and Homestuck GT, if you will. *is shot*
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Rita Repulsa posted:Really instead of cutting, acts 1-4, act 5, and act 6 could be made into seperate stories instead of one long slog The Homestuck Trilogy 
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Mar 4, 2014 19:31
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The only good trolls are the fantrolls, they never talked, their panels are 100% not copy pasted, and perhaps the most important, they died and won't come back.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:34
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:The only good trolls are the fantrolls, they never talked, their panels are 100% not copy pasted, and perhaps the most important, they died and won't come back. Well now you've gone and jinxed it.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:35
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Cut Homestuck entirely, make Problem Sleuth 2. I am only partially joking about this.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:41
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NextTime000 posted:It was alright until Hussie began dragging things out way too long; specially act 5 and onward. Homestuck stands by itself, Hivebent works to either introduce people to the real story or expand on the trolls.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:48
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Rita Repulsa posted:Really instead of cutting, acts 1-4, act 5, and act 6 could be made into seperate stories instead of one long slog I've thought this for a long time now. It would need some editing just for that change alone in order to take full advantage of it, but I think it could work pretty well.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:44
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I want to read a later revision of whatever Homestuck is the first draft of, but I don't want a fan to be the one to revise it.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:45
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Y'all know that Acts 1-4, Act 5, and Act 6 are already designated as Parts 1, 2, and 3 by Hussie himself, right?
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Plom Bar posted:Y'all know that Acts 1-4, Act 5, and Act 6 are already designated as Parts 1, 2, and 3 by Hussie himself, right? He should have instead done Part 1, Part 1: The Sequel, and Part 1: The Thrilling Conclusion. And instead of using Parts 2 and 3 for his next project, he could have done MS Paint Adventures: Wizardly Herbert.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:20
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I still think Homestuck is pretty great as it is.
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Burkion posted:
Roxy's in fourth place after Dave, John, and Cyborg Blood Vendor Jane, how do you not understand this
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Seoinin posted:If %90 of the troll stuff would get cut, then %100 of the post scratch kids poo poo should go too. Nothing of value would be lost. Color Printer posted:Cut Homestuck entirely, make Problem Sleuth 2. though I discovered that in our own GBS someone doing something that brings back the spirit of classic MS Paint Adventures (though its closer to Jailbreak than Problem Sleuth) NextTime000 fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Mar 4, 2014 |
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Barfing Cumlord posted:I still think Homestuck is pretty great as it is. This is my opinion. I feel that while discussing what parts of the story sucked or owned is a fine topic considering there's not much going on, talking about cutting any of it just seems silly because all the poo poo that has happened made the story what it is! If there was a part cut out it just wouldn't feel the same to me. Hussie could do with an editor, sure, but I think leaving it alone as a sort of presentation of what worked and what didn't is the best course of action. In fact, I seem to remember Hussie said the same thing, so that's good.
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NextTime000 posted:also this, though by the time Andrew shut down the suggestion boxes things were a bigger clusterfuck than Twitch Plays Pokemon (please do not discuss this idea) Some other decent suggestion driven comics I've been following are Choose Your Comic Adventure, which I haven't seen discussed here, and Kill Six Billion Demons, which gets brought up in the webcomics thread but often isn't mentioned that it's meant to be reader influenced. Both are more traditional, not MSpaint. Does anyone know of any other good ones? Barfing Cumlord posted:I still think Homestuck is pretty great as it is.
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Barfing Cumlord posted:I still think Homestuck is pretty great as it is. Heh. Look at this scrub. Liking things on the internet.
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Like if homestuck were a mainstream comic, a lot of things could be put into seperate simultaneous tie-in series. Like Hivebent would be miniseries going on while the main plot continues. Homestuck's kind've tried to do this. Having a menu where you choose whose arc to read, having stuff go on in the title while the panels tell another story, stuff like that. But the format it's in is really best suited for telling on story at a time imo. Ultimately good and bad are subjective terms and though there were things that could've been better or worse at this point I'm pretty much watching what calls Hussie makes. voting third party posted:I wouldn't cut anything either, but it does feel like two or three stories merged together right now. Interesting stories to me anyway. Yeah this is kind of what I meant. Act 1-4 is about four kids thrust into the apocalypse by accident and is the most grounded "story". There's even some acknowledgement of other sets of players (Rose's gamefaq and its warnings). I mean, Rose is in peril but not because of some extradimensional near-omnipotent being, but a forest fire. Act 5 is where all the weird predestination and aliens and ectobiology comes in (if I'm remembering right). It's predestined that these four kids are the only ones that matter and there's too much happening for them to contemplate that everyone's dead, to the point where that might as well not be part of the story. It ends with everyone having to escape from an exploding universe while being pursued by an omnipotent killer. Act 6 is kind of two more stories. After that peril I just bolded we have an "intermission" about said same kids loving around for three years dating each other, dating ghosts, and watching con-air. There's also another story about the four new kids having to escape their world, but with a new crazy backstory and new perils. And then there's some shorter storyline like the midnight crew intermission. Each of these share characters but... they're so tonally disparate. I feel like if you renamed all the characters and the title and just added a little bit to say "okay everything starts with this stories beginning and ends with this ending"... you'd have a bunch of stories that stand on their own. The difference between acts 1-4 to acts 5 don't feel like season 1 to season 2 of a TV series or books 1 and 2 of a series of fantasy novels. They seem more like Super Mario Bros to Super Mario Bros 2. Act 5 was some other story with the characters changed to make it a sequel to acts 1-4. Draw your own nintendo game parallels to the other stories if you feel like stretching the metaphor I guess.
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I really don't see how act 5, the troll arc, can be a separate story. It begins with the kids, ends with the kids, and the plot and character development is tied to the kids every step of the way. You need the addition of the post act 5 world to explain what happens with the trolls. You need the beginning acts to lead up to the idea of multiple tied universes and to give contrast to the player groups. Most of the character of the trolls and how they progress through the world is a deliberate foil to the acts 1-4 kid progression. I don't see how you could have part of Homestuck without the rest. There are pace and tone changes, but not different stories. How would the trolls' powergaming and subsequent defeats, both as individuals and as a group, make sense without the context of the kid sessions? We have different sessions with different players, but they all interact, not only from a literal perspective but a literary one.
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I don't think Homestuck can be judged as a story until it's finished. Once we see the ending then we'll know which parts were unnecessary and which ones were building up to something bigger. Right now, though, it's impossible to tell.
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Hussie should just delay Homestuck for the rest of his life until he dies???
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Stoat posted:Hussie should just delay Homestuck for the rest of his life until he dies??? Homestuck will be completed by Brandon Sanderson.
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Rita Repulsa posted:Act 5 is where all the weird predestination and aliens and ectobiology comes in (if I'm remembering right). It's predestined that these four kids are the only ones that matter and there's too much happening for them to contemplate that everyone's dead, to the point where that might as well not be part of the story. It ends with everyone having to escape from an exploding universe while being pursued by an omnipotent killer. I think the shift really happened partway through Act 4. The trolls were already important to the story before Hivebent, beta timelines and ectobiology are both introduced in Act 4, the sylladex is irrelevant, and the act does end with John "escaping" from an exploding planet and an incredibly powerful killer. Everything from Jack: Ascend onwards feels like it has more in common with Act 5 in terms of tone and style. It strikes a good balance between the cutesy shenanigans of A1-2 and the surfeit of plots/characters later on.
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Stoat posted:Hussie should just delay Homestuck for the rest of his life until he dies??? With the way Hussie writes Homestuck and the fact that it's in a hiatus until it's done...this is basically what's actually happening.
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King of Solomon posted:With the way Hussie writes Homestuck and the fact that it's in a hiatus until it's done...this is basically what's actually happening. You just gotta believe that Act 7 Act 7 Intermission 7 Act 7 will be complete one day. 
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