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hamburgers in pockets
Jun 18, 2005

Yeah, that's blood. It'll get better before the show.
Yes. God yes is there friendly fire.

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ambient oatmeal
Jun 23, 2012

If you kill the person getting mauled by an ant, then they can't get hurt by the ant anymore.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

Today I got a sniper weapon called the Monster. Holy poo poo is it aptly named. Does like 500 damage a shot but eats the entire Wing Energy bar. Two-shots everything robotty I've tried it on so far. Upgraded transports, Super Hectors, Shieldbearers, everything. That and an upgraded Rapier is the best. As long as the bees aren't about. Three weapons for Wing Divers would be perfect.

Missions have gone loving mental around the 40 mark and it is The Best. That first mission with Earth Eaters was just amazing. Then it got even more so.

The bee death sound is really adorable to me for some reason.

FuSchnick
Jun 6, 2001

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived...
Just wait until you find Gungnir.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

Oh, I will certainly look out for that then. Thanks for the tip.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die

McDragon posted:

Today I got a sniper weapon called the Monster. Holy poo poo is it aptly named. Does like 500 damage a shot

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by lots and lots and lots of weapons you find in the future.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
I havent play that much Ranger but I really like the Firecracker grenades. They are silly.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Polo-Rican posted:

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by lots and lots and lots of weapons you find in the future.
This is why I'm now trying to decide if I Start up Wing Diver once I finish off Normal Ranger, or keep going with Ranger into hard. Everything weapon is serviceable and (mostly) normal, on Normal. But as I near the end, I get a taste of things to come.

I killed a giant Dragon with a Super Soaker full of Acid, who needs a long range weapon? It served well to plow my way through the Giant Insect hordes in next few missions.
I have gotten a grenade launcher that fires 20 bouncy grenades at once (shame about that 10 second fuse).
I have a Missile Launcher larger than the Ranger, that deals 1,500 Damage with a Lock of 800m (if with a 5 second lockon :v:)

Stage 85, here I come. Let's go, Goliath D1!

Fake Edit: ^^^ Yeah, those are pretty fun.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Does this game have an equivalent of the Stampede from 2017? (It fired a shotgun spread of impact grenades.)

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Can you still cancel the followthrough on those by switching weapons after they leave your hand? In EDF2 you can get some pretty silly dps out of them that way.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

haveblue posted:

Does this game have an equivalent of the Stampede from 2017? (It fired a shotgun spread of impact grenades.)

The Stampede is in the game, there's 3 versions of it. I think the lowest level one is mid 20's.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

haveblue posted:

Does this game have an equivalent of the Stampede from 2017? (It fired a shotgun spread of impact grenades.)

Yeah, they don't travel very far though. Feels like they were more effective in 2017.

ambient oatmeal
Jun 23, 2012

Neo Helbeast posted:

The Stampede is in the game, there's 3 versions of it. I think the lowest level one is mid 20's.

I have one that's under level 10.

FuSchnick
Jun 6, 2001

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived...

Section Z posted:

This is why I'm now trying to decide if I Start up Wing Diver once I finish off Normal Ranger, or keep going with Ranger into hard. Everything weapon is serviceable and (mostly) normal, on Normal. But as I near the end, I get a taste of things to come.

I killed a giant Dragon with a Super Soaker full of Acid, who needs a long range weapon? It served well to plow my way through the Giant Insect hordes in next few missions.
I have gotten a grenade launcher that fires 20 bouncy grenades at once (shame about that 10 second fuse).
I have a Missile Launcher larger than the Ranger, that deals 1,500 Damage with a Lock of 800m (if with a 5 second lockon :v:)

Stage 85, here I come. Let's go, Goliath D1!

Fake Edit: ^^^ Yeah, those are pretty fun.
Fencer gets a missile launcher that fires missiles as large as a red ant from head to tail. They do 100,000 damage with a 50m blast radius, travel really slowly, and can only be fired with an Air Raider using targeting lasers. They are glorious.


Also, for anyone who thinks Air Raider vehicles are terrible, just wait until you get higher level versions. They all start terrible, but get awesome in the end game. Except maybe the railgun tanks, they are awesome from start to finish (except one in the middle that fires in burst mode, it isn't very accurate).

Gigantes tanks slow and dull? The high end ones are fast enough to drift race. BMX10 Proteus feels weak? The late-game version absolutely wrecks poo poo in Inferno difficulty, and has 160,000 durability.

2 SPOOKY
Sep 9, 2010

Always Be Alert!
Been playing couch-coop with a friend and had a glorious EDF moment the other night. I play as an Air Raider and love the hell out of the class. On the Ravager Battleship mission, I brought the Satellite Blaster and started the boss fight with dropping the laser right on the boss' prow.

It proceeded to start shaking like a leaf, go spinning into the earth, disappear for a solid 10 seconds, then come falling out of the sky at a 45 degree angle. The rest of the fight proceeded as normal.


I love this game.

Kikkoman
Nov 28, 2002

Posing along since 2005
Any of you guys available for no mic coop on ps3 wednesdays and thursdays during the morning/early afternoon? My work schedule is silly and I wanna spend my off days blowing the poop out of giant ants. Psn is eeeviltom.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

My first exposure to the series was IA on Steam, not being a 360 owner or a JP import gamer, and after playing a couple missions it feels like I've come home.

Considering how much I loved what's considered to be the worst game in the series, I'm really looking forward to digging in to this one.

Hyperactive
Mar 10, 2004

RICHARDS!

Hey, so the Air Raider starts with some deploy points for air raids and vehicles.

Do we know how many? Does it increase with higher stages? Difficulty levels?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

T.G. Xarbala posted:

My first exposure to the series was IA on Steam, not being a 360 owner or a JP import gamer, and after playing a couple missions it feels like I've come home.

Considering how much I loved what's considered to be the worst game in the series, I'm really looking forward to digging in to this one.

Honestly, even if it's the 'worst' in the series, IA is still really fun. I wish it had a longer campaign and a few different decisions (like dropping the credits system and getting rid of those loving ticks) but it was my first EDF too, and I still play it occasionally. Worst in the series in a series full of awesome games can still mean you're a really sweet game.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

Hyperactive posted:

Hey, so the Air Raider starts with some deploy points for air raids and vehicles.

Do we know how many? Does it increase with higher stages? Difficulty levels?

He starts with 3500/4000 and no you can not increase the starting amount.

FuSchnick
Jun 6, 2001

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived...

Hyperactive posted:

Hey, so the Air Raider starts with some deploy points for air raids and vehicles.

Do we know how many? Does it increase with higher stages? Difficulty levels?
Not sure what the actual numbers are. Essentially, most vehicles and support strikes start with full deploy bar. A few of the very largest ones start with the bar about 1/4 full. Off the top of my head, I can only think of the Titan tanks and Proteus robots that start at "not full". I haven't encountered a strike that starts less than full yet, but I don't have the very highest level ones yet either.

The thing is, the cost of the items really depends on their TYPE, and not their level. Gigantus tanks always cost the same amount, even when you get a level 80 version of it. So do all the other vehicles of the same line... all Vegaltas cost the same, all Titans cost the same, and so on.

Hyperactive
Mar 10, 2004

RICHARDS!

Neo Helbeast posted:

He starts with 3500/4000 and no you can not increase the starting amount.

Ah-ha! Thanks.

Dvlos
Aug 26, 2003

"I came here to argue with you about a freaking television show!"
In true EDF fashion I love the many weapons that are easily and quickly able to turn on its owner and kill him quickly. EDF!!

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
The Brutus flamethrower helicopter starts with less than full but I'm not sure about the other Brutus ones if there are any. I learned that the hard way on a retiarius map :negative:

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

Marogareh posted:

The Brutus flamethrower helicopter starts with less than full but I'm not sure about the other Brutus ones if there are any. I learned that the hard way on a retiarius map :negative:

It's okay because all of the brutes are 3 persons required just to attack with it.

Gahmah
Nov 4, 2009

McDragon posted:

Today I got a sniper weapon called the Monster. Holy poo poo is it aptly named. Does like 500 damage a shot but eats the entire Wing Energy bar. Two-shots everything robotty I've tried it on so far. Upgraded transports, Super Hectors, Shieldbearers, everything. That and an upgraded Rapier is the best. As long as the bees aren't about. Three weapons for Wing Divers would be perfect.


the neat thing about it is if you can tap the trigger just quickly enough it won't eat the whole energy bar, because it's not firing one big shot, but as many as it can at some absurd 600/sec rate or something like that.

A Pleasant Hug
Dec 30, 2007

...It's the thought that counts, right?

Gahmah posted:

the neat thing about it is if you can tap the trigger just quickly enough it won't eat the whole energy bar, because it's not firing one big shot, but as many as it can at some absurd 600/sec rate or something like that.

The Monster snipers are focus-lasers like the LAZR guns or the LRSL series. So the ROF is 60/sec.

There's an upgraded version too that's ridiculous like 6000/shot or so for 18,000 off a full energy bar.

Lucky Samurai
Oct 4, 2011

Being jaded about something is so cool. You're just as useless as everybody else, but you get to be irritating and bitter about it.

Kikkoman posted:

Any of you guys available for no mic coop on ps3 wednesdays and thursdays during the morning/early afternoon? My work schedule is silly and I wanna spend my off days blowing the poop out of giant ants. Psn is eeeviltom.

I added you a couple days ago, I'll be on tomorrow morning.

I just beat Mission 13 on Hard with another goon. We were both Fencers touting the NC102 cannons in one loadout, he went double melee in the other whereas i went Flashing Spear and Deflector Shield.

I havent found any shields besides upgraded Deflector Shields, what the gently caress game give me an Ion or Reflector shield already.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Has anyone found some interesting uses for Heaven's Gate? It's really fun on red ants and I bet it might be great on Hectors too.

2 SPOOKY
Sep 9, 2010

Always Be Alert!

MassRafTer posted:

Has anyone found some interesting uses for Heaven's Gate? It's really fun on red ants and I bet it might be great on Hectors too.

Heaven's Gate is the Wing Diver special, in the same line as Pandora? If so, the only "good" use I've seen of it so far is placing it above one of the tunnel spawners for ants or spiders.

I imagine using them in confined spaces underground would be pretty hilarious, though.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

Night10194 posted:

Honestly, even if it's the 'worst' in the series, IA is still really fun. I wish it had a longer campaign and a few different decisions (like dropping the credits system and getting rid of those loving ticks) but it was my first EDF too, and I still play it occasionally. Worst in the series in a series full of awesome games can still mean you're a really sweet game.

Oh god I forgot about those awful ticks.

The worst part about that game is the way the levels are objective based, EDF works so well because levels are usually straightforward and short so you can use the guns that work best for the enemies you are fighting. IA forced you to use all purpose guns on every mission because you have to fight every enemy type for 15-20 minutes at a time.

Wasn't there an escort mission in IA?

buddychrist10
Nov 4, 2009

Obtuse.....even hokey.
I'm pretty sure there's no video game experience that is going to surpass co-oping with 4 Air Raiders. So many huge explosions and I'm still pretty early on in terms of weapons.

Since I forgot to mention it earlier, account is Duke Silver 8 on Xbox 360.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

Someone seriously needs to cheer the scientist guy up a bit. He's so negative. Every new thing the Ravagers come up with it's "oh no, humanity is going to be extinct". I bet that's why the Ravagers are invading, he's such a gloomcloud he's endangering the universe or something. Seriously Doc, just give everybody a Monster and this invasion is finished by tomorrow.

Also holy poo poo I love the Monster more and more. It's a little tricky to pull off the shots that don't eat the entire bar, but killing Deroys from far away in two shots is great. Because gently caress Deroys. I liked the mission where they brought the old transports back because I could try the Monster on them too. :swoon:

A Pleasant Hug
Dec 30, 2007

...It's the thought that counts, right?

Broseph Brostar posted:

Oh god I forgot about those awful ticks.

The worst part about that game is the way the levels are objective based, EDF works so well because levels are usually straightforward and short so you can use the guns that work best for the enemies you are fighting. IA forced you to use all purpose guns on every mission because you have to fight every enemy type for 15-20 minutes at a time.

Wasn't there an escort mission in IA?
No, there were no escort missions, unless you count reviving your squadmates. Also, even on Inferno, Ticks weren't that bad. It's the bees. gently caress bees and their bullshit pins that you literally cannot get out of without help. Getting caught by one is a death sentence.

At least the Armor Level 8 superguns were freebies....


dude789 posted:

I'm pretty sure there's no video game experience that is going to surpass co-oping with 4 Air Raiders. So many huge explosions and I'm still pretty early on in terms of weapons.

Since I forgot to mention it earlier, account is Duke Silver 8 on Xbox 360.
3 Fencers, 1 Air Raider.
Fencers all take Leviathan missiles, and the raider has a beacon gun. :getin:

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

Seiren posted:

No, there were no escort missions, unless you count reviving your squadmates. Also, even on Inferno, Ticks weren't that bad. It's the bees. gently caress bees and their bullshit pins that you literally cannot get out of without help. Getting caught by one is a death sentence.

I remember the awful bees, but I could have sworn there was some dumb missions where you had to protect one of those stupid dropships. Maybe there was a timed mission? I just remember there being a level that did not belong in a proper edf game.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Holy poo poo, I just fought giant-robot D-Day.

And it's not even a quarter of the way through the campaign.

The Crusher
Aug 13, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE NEKOMIMI CLIFFYB

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Holy poo poo, I just fought giant-robot D-Day.

And it's not even a quarter of the way through the campaign.

Every time you think you've hit the coolest mission, you're wrong. This game is great at never letting up.

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Holy loving poo poo. This game :aaaaa:

Fencer's starter weapons are poo. But I played the first mission on hard and got a 6-tube missile launcher and a mortar. You just start leveling the poo poo out of everything. Building collapse, bug parts fly everywhere, and everything dies. This game is amazing. gently caress reviews. Anyone who says this game sucks hates fun.

I also love that the game (at least mine) does not come with an instruction manual, nor a tutorial. All you need to do is figure out what button shoots bugs good and you're set to go.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Vahalla posted:

Heaven's Gate is the Wing Diver special, in the same line as Pandora? If so, the only "good" use I've seen of it so far is placing it above one of the tunnel spawners for ants or spiders.

I imagine using them in confined spaces underground would be pretty hilarious, though.

That was really satisfying. I need to try that in Trapped next.

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I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

MusicKrew Dawn Patrol
After beating the game on normal as Wing Diver, I'm now playing through hard with Fencer.

It was said before, but if you've not tried to reflect stuff, you need to. For spiders, ion shield is the only weapon you need, since they have more attack than HP. I finished the spider part of the first underground mission without firing a shot.

On the other hand, one ant acid blast knocks off almost all your health if all the drops connect. Ugh.

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