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I actually started laughing during this shot. Manu has the loving best, smug poo poo-eating grin I've ever seen. e: Also some fantastic stunt work in this episode. I'll probably gif a bunch of it tomorrow when I have time if no one gets to it first.
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That's the Arrow I like! The episode was great TV and totally made up for last week's soap opera bullshit. It sucks that there's another break. But regarding the stuntwork - what was with Caity Lotz' superjump on the Queen residence? Did I miss something there? CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Poor Diggle. First action in weeks and he gets knocked out like a chump. Leb posted:That was a fairly interesting episode, but uh... the fact that all the principals, including Oliver himself, somehow accept that Shado's death was Oliver's fault is just a contrivance too far. I mean, Oliver never even made a choice; at the last second, Ivo took aim at Sara and Oliver put himself in the line of fire. On the other hand, Present Day Slade being MENACING AS gently caress without them having him actually have to kill anyone to prove what a villain he is (like eeeevery other show would do) was terrific stuff. I second the guy who said "Not yet, kid" should be the new thread title. Narcissus1916 posted:And while the technical end of the show remains impressive, the script had a TON of clunky lines. All of Ivo's lines in particular felt extremely rough - you've gotta give your actors something to work with. BrianWilly posted:Although when exactly did Roy find out about Sara being one of Ollie's allies? I guess we just Arrow-paced through that scene. Mexal posted:I'm still in awe that this is a CW show. 
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VagueRant posted:On the other hand, Present Day Slade being MENACING AS gently caress without them having him actually have to kill anyone to prove what a villain he is (like eeeevery other show would do) was terrific stuff. Manu Bennett is killing it in terms of cocky menace and eyepatch-rocking, but to be fair, they did kind of do this when he killed a bunch of Blood's goons for, like, no reason. That said, the fact that that moment was so forgettable with respect to his present-day arc is pretty notable in and of itself, especially considering we've only seen him like three times.
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They keep filming Roy on the team stuff and then cutting it for time, unfortunately. Having the thread locked for two weeks with "Not yet, kid" as the title is going to be great.
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Whizbang posted:They keep filming Roy on the team stuff and then cutting it for time, unfortunately. quote:Having the thread locked for two weeks with "Not yet, kid" as the title is going to be great.
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Mar 6, 2014 09:58
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I can't get that image of the eyehole out of my head. Ughgh gently caress creepy as poo poo. 
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Mar 6, 2014 10:08
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JayMax posted:Ivo shooting anyone didn't even make sense at that point. It's kinda dumb that they made it this central plot point.
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Mar 6, 2014 10:16
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jscolon2.0 posted:You know, you did have a wife and kid before the island, Slade. Maybe he doesn't anymore 
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The whole fridging Shado thing is just dumb. It's dumb that Ivo randomly decided to kill one of them for no reason. It's dumb that everyone keeps saying Ollie made a choice when all he did was put himself in front of the gun. It's dumb that when Ivo was all  You aimed the gun! Ollie didn't respond with  No, you did, you loving psycho, because you were the only one holding a gun! and then shot him. It's dumb that Slade is being dumb about it. It's just all-around dumb.I mean, it's far from a dealbreaker, but it's still fuckin' dumb, and this is the first time I can remember that the show has just been straight-up dumb about something. 
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It is pretty dumb, but I honestly don't mind because it's at least in service of the plot and sets up a nice motivation for Slade while setting up interesting situations for Ollie to deal with both in the present and the past. Like you said this is the first overtly dumb thing the show's done, so I'm ok with giving it a pass and just accepting it for what it is: an excuse to have Manu Bennett in as many scenes as possible.Scuzzywuffit posted:Manu Bennett is killing it in terms of cocky menace and eyepatch-rocking, but to be fair, they did kind of do this when he killed a bunch of Blood's goons for, like, no reason.
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Spergatory posted:The whole fridging Shado thing is just dumb. It's dumb that Ivo randomly decided to kill one of them for no reason. It's dumb that everyone keeps saying Ollie made a choice when all he did was put himself in front of the gun. It's dumb that when Ivo was all Yeah, it's always pretty frustrating when the heroes buy into a villains pretty lame manipulation plot.
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The most frustrating thing about that whole subplot is that it involved fridging Shado herself. Shado has some pretty interesting mythology in the comics, particularly in the current comics run and killing her off before setting all that up is a really frustrating way to dismiss what could've been a really fascinating with great backstory who could've opened up the scope of the setting even further to include more east asian mystical kung fu action.
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This is the first episode I didn't really find to be fantastic. I like the island stuff usually, but I would have preferred a lot less Island on this episode and a lot more mansion drama/action.
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VDay posted:I actually started laughing during this shot. Manu has the loving best, smug poo poo-eating grin I've ever seen. Now I want a show with Bennett and James Spader being smug bros.
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Slade punishing Oliver for Shado is not just because he was in love with her, but Oliver "choosing" Sara over her is a betrayal to their island team and all they endured over the last year or so. In Slade's mind, the three of them had a bond where they would have each others back for the rest of their lives. Slade and Shado would have taken a bullet to save one of their island team. Oliver allowing Shado to get killed to protect his fling, wouldn't really come across very well to a Slade who considered Oliver a brother, even before the mirakuru addled brain amplifies things. The fact that Oliver was withholding the details about Shado makes things even worse. TyrantWD fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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I think there's a way to make me believe Slade's anger at Oliver - but the dialogue in tonight's episode did the plot no favors. The central core of their conflict should be that Oliver didn't just choose Sara over Shado - but that by doing so he was choosing his old self over the man he's become.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I respect the island material more than I actually like it - but its getting drat repetitive. Really cannot wait for Oliver and Sara to get away from the island and onto more of their training/world travelings. Pretty sure Sara doesn't get off the island with Ollie, so we likely won't be seeing that stuff.
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VagueRant posted:Every time someone says this, I assume they are a terrible human being for not watching the first two seasons of Nikita. I watched the first 4 seasons of Nikita. It was good television, I don't disagree, but Arrow is on another level for me. Nikita's structure was "Division has random missing. Michael is sent. Nikita finds out and stops them. Michael or Nikita doesn't kill each other" rinse and repeat. Fun, entertaining, but never had the tension that this episode had with Slade and never really had any interesting villains.
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One thing that I think helped to explain Slade's mindset is when they revealed that he was never planning to destroy the Mirakuru, Ollie and Sarah burned a box of dirt. He hasn't been the same since the injection, and I think in that reveal you can see that he's had his own plan in mind for a while. I don't think he would have just killed Ollie and Sarah for no reason, but I'm not sure he really gave a poo poo about them anymore. His exchange with Ollie about them being "brothers" came off to me(especially in hindsight) as Slade trying to say what Ollie wants to hear. He knew he needed backup to take the freighter.
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Mar 6, 2014 15:44
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So many great little touches in this show tonight but Slade's car needs some love. What WAS that?
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Arrow Season 2: Leaving the thread open would be... Suicide
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jscolon2.0 posted:Arrow Season 2: Leaving the thread open would be... Suicide If you do close the thread, Deadpool, change it to this before you do it.
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Deadpool posted:I may have to close this thing down after a couple days. Hiatuses do not do this thread any favors. On the flip side, then we have nowhere to discuss the trailers and photos from the set and such that get posted fairly regularly.
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Careful. Micromanaging threads is the first step on the road to Aatrek. ...Okay, maybe not the first.
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King Burgundy posted:On the flip side, then we have nowhere to discuss the trailers and photos from the set and such that get posted fairly regularly. Yes, and where are we meant to talk about how Stephen Amell is the raddest dude on the planet?
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The Lord Bude posted:Now I want a show with Bennett and James Spader being smug bros. If Manu were cast on The Blacklist it would be a  overload and we'd all start bleeding out our ears.
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quote:Shado has some pretty interesting mythology in the comics, particularly in the current comics run and killing her off before setting all that up is a really frustrating way to dismiss what could've been a really fascinating with great backstory who could've opened up the scope of the setting even further to include more east asian mystical kung fu action. I would not be surprised to see Shado again. Did we ever see them bury her? Maybe she has a sister... quote:Ollie is gonna end up with the worst step-dad ever quote:One thing that I think helped to explain Slade's mindset is when they revealed that he was never planning to destroy the Mirakuru, Ollie and Sarah burned a box of dirt. He hasn't been the same since the injection, and I think in that reveal you can see that he's had his own plan in mind for a while quote:You know, you did have a wife and kid before the island, Slade.
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I dunno we did pretty clearly see Ivo put a bullet in Shado's head, and there's been at least one scene of their little graveyard where Yao Fei and Ollie's dad are
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Dead Snoopy posted:So many great little touches in this show tonight but Slade's car needs some love. What WAS that? Looked like a Lamborghini Aventador to me:  Googling to try to confirm (as far as I can tell, nobody's written about the model yet) reveals that Manu apparently has a decent relationship with the brand.
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Oracle posted:When has anyone on this show ever stayed dead? Seriously every single person that's died minus I think Shado and Tommy has come back (oh and Oliver's dad). Tommy and Oliver's dad make sense to stay dead, but Ollie came back, Slade came back, Sara came back, Malcolm Merlyn came back, Roy technically came back... They were never dead, just missing and presumed dead. The closest someone on this show has come to coming back to life is Roy, but that was shown immediately and made sense in context. I don't think this show has a reputation for bringing dead characters back to life at all, and we clearly saw Shado die, I would be surprised and disappointed if she came back somehow.
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Mar 6, 2014 18:11
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Her name was actually Henry Shado Yao.
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Aphrodite posted:Her name was actually Henry Shado Yao. Smallville! 
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loving outstanding episode. The Few Dollars More staring showdown was loving awesome. Anyone have a gif of Slade's reaction when Sarah comes down the stairs? Manu Bennett man.........Manu Bennett.... Also I know there's been a lot of "will they/won't they" regarding Nightwing but Steve McQueen says they're in talks. Oh, also I think that it was Huntress that knocked out Diggle. zoux fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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King Burgundy posted:On the flip side, then we have nowhere to discuss the trailers and photos from the set and such that get posted fairly regularly.  from the preview.
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zoux posted:Steve McQueen says they're in talks. There are way too many Steve McQueens because the first two that came to mind almost made me spit out my coffee
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