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wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

Mr. Nice! posted:

I grew up in Texas. A minor still can't order or be served themselves, but they can absolutely drink whatever their parent or guardian buys and gives to them. This also applies to marriages where one party is under 21 and the other is over.


Yeah this was a common tactic when I was a kid and on vacation with a friend in wisconsin. Go to the bar with friend's family, proceed to get drunk, if questioned tell them that my friend and I are brothers and his parents are mine (they would play along, cool loving parents!)

I don't really drink anymore because it's a pretty lame substance but there is nothing better than getting drunk when you are a teen. No responsibilities and you can always get a parent to drive you places!

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veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Mr. Nice! posted:

I grew up in Texas. A minor still can't order or be served themselves, but they can absolutely drink whatever their parent or guardian buys and gives to them. This also applies to marriages where one party is under 21 and the other is over.

My brother, at 19, was drinking a beer that he got from my mom, when a cocksucker from TABC saw him, but my mom was out of "line of sight" of my brother. He gave my brother a loving ticket for it. Knowing full well that my brother couldn't fight it as he was on a 2 week leave after boot camp. gently caress TABC forever.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
TABC is the loving gestapo. They can fine bar owners a fuckton for each empty beer bottle still on a table or the bar after 2AM.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

If a child has a prescription she can take her pills (or whatever form they take) to school and so on. Don't be so dense.

Just want to remind everyone that this isn't remotely close to true. Remember that girl a while back who got literally strip searched on suspicion of having Tylenol for menstrual cramps? That's extremely widespread. The highschool I went to, which is in one of the best public school districts in the US, explicitly said in its big honking rulebook that having even over the counter, let alone prescription, medications on your person or in your locker would (not could, would; the rule was worded in a way that implied no room for discretion on the administration's part) earn you a suspension. You were required to take any and all medication aside from rescue inhalers and epi pens to the school nurse and go there whenever you needed to take it. Even inhalers and epi pens required you have a letter from your doctor already on file with the school.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
Score one for private schools; I was supposed to give my ADHD amphetamines to the school nurse to take with lunch but eventually I just stopped giving them to her and left them in my locker to take to lunch. Periodically she'd ask me about it and I'd be like yeah, they are in my locker. :whatup:

Along with the six pack of Jolt cola that I'd wash them down with (this is a bad idea).

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Along with the six pack of Jolt cola that I'd wash them down with (this is a bad idea).

Holy poo poo, how'd young you manage to do this? I started taking prescription amphetamines later in life and was surprised when I found out that just looking at a cup of coffee made me a jittery mess for half a day.

Stanos
Sep 22, 2009

The best 57 in hockey.
They were also a bit more lenient with scripts at my private school as long as you took them. Strangely, OTC stuff was still not allowed. I remember a few women getting detention for having tylenol in their lockers and a teacher got into some real poo poo a few years before I got there for giving a high school kid an aleve.

We also didn't have an official school nurse so I guess that would be why.

Dyz
Dec 10, 2010

Stanos posted:

They were also a bit more lenient with scripts at my private school as long as you took them. Strangely, OTC stuff was still not allowed. I remember a few women getting detention for having tylenol in their lockers and a teacher got into some real poo poo a few years before I got there for giving a high school kid an aleve.

We also didn't have an official school nurse so I guess that would be why.

There are some OTC drugs that are pretty loving crazy. Like Dramamine for instance.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
Yeah, it's a good thing kids can't buy unlimited quantities of cheap OTC drugs at the dollar store.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

cafel posted:

Holy poo poo, how'd young you manage to do this? I started taking prescription amphetamines later in life and was surprised when I found out that just looking at a cup of coffee made me a jittery mess for half a day.

I honestly have no idea. I would crash so hard after an hour or so, and I tried the same combo years later only to find it made me a jittery mess. I don't consume caffeine at all anymore, but I guess as a kid I could handle it.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Stalins Moustache posted:

Well, that dude was just now busted for possession of cannabis and use of it, meaning that the debate he wished for will die and the anti-legalization crowd will have even more fuel to their flame. That's it, I guess. Now it'll be an even longer time before that debate is brought up again.

So, illegality aside, the anti-legalization crowd can shut down the debate because people who want cannabis legalized enjoy using the thing that they want legalized.

This is retarded on some kind of cosmic level.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

I honestly have no idea. I would crash so hard after an hour or so, and I tried the same combo years later only to find it made me a jittery mess. I don't consume caffeine at all anymore, but I guess as a kid I could handle it.

According to the specialist I talked to, a lot of people start to respond differently to stimulants as they get older for pretty much exactly the same reasons a lot of people grow out of ADHD/ADD. Brain chemistry just changes.

I find that my tolerance is a weird function of what I eat when and in what quantities. I know my meds take protein to properly metabolize, but if eat just the wrong breakfast I end up a jittery mess with just the medication, while most days I can wash the pills down with a mountain dew without any ill effects beyond talking too much. To myself. While alone in my house.

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

Jerry Brown is unsure if legalization is a good idea, because America "could lose its competitive edge if too many people are getting stoned." There are two false implications here. The first is that prohibition is preventing people from getting stoned. The second is that marijuana consumption reduces productivity or intelligence. If Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman could toke up and still function just fine as internationally renowned and respected scientists, I'm sure the majority of us working service-sector jobs won't have our shelf-facing, shirt folding or food cooking abilities negatively affected.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Spoondick posted:

Jerry Brown is unsure if legalization is a good idea, because America "could lose its competitive edge if too many people are getting stoned." There are two false implications here. The first is that prohibition is preventing people from getting stoned. The second is that marijuana consumption reduces productivity or intelligence. If Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman could toke up and still function just fine as internationally renowned and respected scientists, I'm sure the majority of us working service-sector jobs won't have our shelf-facing, shirt folding or food cooking abilities negatively affected.

Also we're about 30 years too late on the "losing our competitive edge" thing. I was listening to a Fresh Air interview with Neil Degrasse Tyson and he made this exact point. After decades of gutting higher education, the death of the space program, and onerous government interference into research (topics like stem cells, UAVs, etc), weed is not the straw that will break the camel's back.

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Mar 3, 2014

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

Paul MaudDib posted:

Also we're about 30 years too late on the "losing our competitive edge" thing. I was listening to a Fresh Air interview with Neil Degrasse Tyson and he made this exact point. After decades of gutting higher education, the death of the space program, and onerous government interference into research (topics like stem cells, UAVs, etc), weed is not the straw that will break the camel's back.

Yeah, if Jerry Brown was really concerned about our competitive edge he'd at least reverse some of the recent brutal cuts to the UC and CSU systems instead of spouting off about fiscal prudence. I think if we traded the tax revenue of legalized pot for increases to our thread bare higher and lower education budgets, we'd come out more competitive on the balance.

Parlett316
Dec 6, 2002

Jon Snow is viciously stabbed by his friends in the night's watch for wanting to rescue Mance Rayder from Ramsay Bolton
The District of Columbia passed their decriminalization bill 10-1.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Parlett316 posted:

The District of Columbia passed their decriminalization bill 10-1.

Can't wait to see if anyone in Congress decides to make an issue of it.

Okan170
Nov 14, 2007

Torpedoes away!
Looks like the UN is now very unhappy with the US (as well as Uruguay) Think of the [undefined] harm!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26432776

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Okan170 posted:

Looks like the UN is now very unhappy with the US (as well as Uruguay) Think of the [undefined] harm!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26432776

Do you suppose the UN gets a bulk discount on sending the US strongly worded letters?

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Can't wait to see if anyone in Congress decides to make an issue of it.

I'd like to say they'd be too stoned to care but really, a lot of these guys have almost literal sticks up their backsides.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Can't wait to see if anyone in Congress decides to make an issue of it.

If anyone thinks it will get them votes, they will certainly use the DC whipping boy. I wouldn't expect to hear much from the states that have legalized, medical or otherwise though.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
It's still basically illegal though, you just get harassed somewhat less by the police.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Full Battle Rattle posted:

It's still basically illegal though, you just get harassed somewhat less by the police.

There's a big difference between getting a ticket and spending a night in jail.

Imapanda
Sep 12, 2008

Majoris Felidae Peditum
Minnesota medical mj bill senate hearing happening today. Seems pretty serious, it's the first major push for it in this state.

http://theuptake.org/live-channel/mn-house-channel/

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KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
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Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.
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wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

Imapanda posted:

Minnesota medical mj bill senate hearing happening today. Seems pretty serious, it's the first major push for it in this state.

http://theuptake.org/live-channel/mn-house-channel/

Not the first major push, we had a bipartisan bill pass back in like 2007? or 2008? but Pawlenty vetoed it. Also, Dayton has vowed to veto any bill that hits his desk.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Dusseldorf posted:

There's a big difference between getting a ticket and spending a night in jail.

It's really a toothless measure, especially with the amendment that smoking outdoors is still illegal. That amendment is pretty certain to continue the longstanding pattern of racism in weed enforcement. If you're charitable you could describe it as "symbolic" but the Council had a lot of room to run here (they tabled a legalization bill to pass this instead) and choked back pretty hard in the amendment process. The Mayor backpedaled support out of fear of the return of open-air drug markets, which the Council took into account when it left open-air use a criminal offense.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Pudgygiant posted:

People have started to nervously talk about it at work. Most of the people I work with have (low level) clearances so we can't use it, and it has about the same stigma as talking about booze at work (which happens, because a couple guys home brew, but not a lot). I work for one of the largest corporations in the world, they emailed everyone and said they're not going to test for it, they don't care if we do it as long as we're not obviously high at work and we don't do it on premises, and they're already offering addiction counseling for it. All in all from what I've seen it's been a really mature reaction to legalization.
Tangential, but honestly the amount of people with Secret Clearances I know for whom smoking is just the tip of the iceburg is honestly quite staggering. From what I've seen kids are "cleaning up" when they're waiting to get clearance and act like paranoid high schoolers, then immediately resume not giving a gently caress when they get clearances and start getting paid. Never applicable to my life though! :toot:

size1one
Jun 24, 2008

I don't want a nation just for me, I want a nation for everyone


KOMO news posted:

Washington state issued its first legal-marijuana business license Wednesday, launching a new phase in the state's ambitious effort to regulate a market that has been illegal for more than 75 years.

Sean Green, who has operated medical marijuana dispensaries in Spokane and the Seattle suburb of Shoreline, proclaimed the document "beautiful" as it was handed to him at a state Liquor Control Board meeting in Olympia.

The license will allow him to grow 21,000 square feet of cannabis at his Spokane facility - the first pot that will be grown for sale under the highly taxed system approved by voters in 2012. The possession of marijuana became legal for adults over 21 soon after the vote, but it's still illegal to grow or sell it for recreational use until pot shops open in the state later this year.

ChlamydiaJones
Sep 27, 2002

My Estonian riding instructor told me; "Mine munni ahvi türa imeja", and I live by that every day!
Ramrod XTreme
What would it take to get you to move to Colorado if you're interested in marijuana research? How about a funding stream for clinical research of several million dollars per year released as grants by a state organization in $500,000/year, two year grants every year? Maybe more grants for $250,000/year, two years. We'll see but I wouldn't bother applying if I weren't a Colorado based researcher :)
The commitment would be from the state as a percentage of the total recreational income but the time frame would be at least five years of funding for this granting source.
I think that this will happen and I HOPE that we can guarantee the stream for longer than that. Oh and I hope that I can get one or two of the grants! This would be a game changer for marijuana research and some of the right people know it now!

JollyGreen
Aug 23, 2010
In states where decriminalization has become a thing, where does growing solely for personal use (1 to 2 plants) usually fall in the criminality range? I am a hermit and don't know or want to get involve with dealers so.... details?

JollyGreen fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 6, 2014

forgot my pants
Feb 28, 2005

JollyGreen posted:

In states where decriminalization has become a thing, where does growing solely for personal use (1 to 2 plants) usually fall in the criminality range? I am a hermit and don't know or want to get involve with dealers so....

States typically decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana. Possessing large amounts, growing marijuana, smoking in public, and even possessing marijuana in the wrong place (like on a forest preserve), are generally still covered under criminal law. So you'd be looking at felony charges most places.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

I really hope he names his store "Green's Greens".

JollyGreen
Aug 23, 2010
Effort post:

Maryland news :D !!!:
I feel that there's a lot of potential for movement in the decriminalization front (and maybe even legalization!). In general there's been a lot of favorable news and polls in the local media for decriminalization. There's even been some hesitant support for legalization, but the few comments that I've heard from legislators is that they're happy to let Colorado test things out first before they step in the water. Not surprising, but at least that hope for the very near future.

The first (of many) hearings for decriminalization (HB 879) and legalization (HB 880) are to take place on 3/13. I think the general idea is that this first reading has to be passed with some flavor of 'favorability' for it to get moved forward to the next step. Either way, the Maryland General Assembly closes for the year on April 7th (we only have a 90 day legislative session), if things are going to happen, we're going to be hearing a lot about this very soon.
Links to the relevant statuses of bills from Maryland's official site:
HB 879 (Decrim)
HB 880 (Legalize)

Ian McLean
Sep 9, 2012

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Somebody fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Mar 7, 2014

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

What's this poo poo you just spammed in like 5 threads?

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

Dusseldorf posted:

What's this poo poo you just spammed in like 5 threads?

For some people "What the Bleep do we know?!" was a profound and insightful experience. Some believers spam Facebook links while others use kind words and a sharpie to purify Sochi water (which is quantum mechanics by the way)

SurgicalOntologist
Jun 17, 2004

Dusseldorf posted:

What's this poo poo you just spammed in like 5 threads?

Looks like he got closer to 50 threads before getting probated. Only 8 hours, really?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

SurgicalOntologist posted:

Looks like he got closer to 50 threads before getting probated. Only 8 hours, really?

Mods probate for 6 hours as a placeholder to stop somebody from posting until an admin can approve the ban.

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

JollyGreen posted:

In states where decriminalization has become a thing, where does growing solely for personal use (1 to 2 plants) usually fall in the criminality range? I am a hermit and don't know or want to get involve with dealers so.... details?

Just move to Colorado, you can have.. going off memory I just moved out last year after voting in favor of legalization, I believe up to 6 plants in your personal possession completely legally.

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JollyGreen
Aug 23, 2010

Spaceman Future! posted:

Just move to Colorado, you can have.. going off memory I just moved out last year after voting in favor of legalization, I believe up to 6 plants in your personal possession completely legally.

Hahaha I wish :D ... I can't justify leaving my fiance/job/family/homestate though for a bit of weed. If I wasn't so broke I would've take a vacation to the Rocky Mountains by now, I've been meaning to travel more and the photos look great.

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