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The Casualty posted:Warning shots violate two of the four basic rules of firearms safety, which is why they're discouraged in essentially every circumstance except very specific military rules of engagement. As to warning shots fired into the air actually hitting someone - the danger is entirely theoretical / anecdotal. Our cousins have been celebrating every wedding / funeral / bus explosion with a protracted display of improvised fireworks from their AK's for quite a while, yet no such incidents were reported. Crigit posted:My intuition is that warning shots create a prisoner's dilemma situation. Warnings shots are a really good way to create some distance between "we're talking" and "I'm shooting you", which gives both sides an opportunity to back off. I've never heard of a warning shot actually escalating an otherwise avoidable confrontation, but there have been plenty of cases where such a shot would have saved lives. Xander77 fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Xander77 posted:As to warning shots fired into the air actually hitting someone - the danger is entirely theoretical / anecdotal. Bobbin Threadbare posted:I'm just going to add to this that in Minneapolis a young boy in his own home was killed when a stray bullet passed through the wall. Twice. Xander77 posted:Our cousins have been celebrating every wedding / funeral / bus explosion with a protracted display of improvised fireworks from their AK's for quite a while, yet no such incidents were reported. Wikipedia posted:Bullets fired into the air usually fall back at terminal velocity, speeds much lower than those at which they leave the barrel of a firearm. Nevertheless, people can be injured, sometimes fatally, when bullets discharged into the air fall back down. Bullets fired other than exactly vertical are more dangerous, as the bullet maintains its angular ballistic trajectory, is far less likely to engage in tumbling motion, and so travels at a speed much higher than its terminal velocity.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:10
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Rhjamiz posted:If you're close enough to shoot, you're close enough to also talk. Or shout, if you will. Information can be exchanged. Exactly. I think that saying 'stop or I'll shoot' is less likely to start a firefight than actually shooting. Xander77 posted:If any of your economics / poli-sci professors told you that people consciously apply prisoner-dilemma like reasoning to such situations, they should never teach again. Since framing it as a prisoner's dilemma seems to get your hackles up, let me rephrase. It seems to me that a warning shot can only be effective if BOTH parties have an obviously safe means of escape. Edit:VVVV Low light vision obviously. Sunglasses at all times forever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5VzlRvIw4 Crigit fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Mar 6, 2014 19:16
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What nano augs would you get in real life? I'd be happy with a rebreather/aqualung and some auto-triage.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:18
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Considering we've reached the point where people are talking in circles around each other and other folks are getting sick of reading it, I'd like to suggest we drop the gun debate at this point. I'd like to thank everyone who participated, but it seems like it's run its course. Pvt.Scott posted:What nano augs would you get in real life? I'd be happy with a rebreather/aqualung and some auto-triage. Super speed would be pretty sweet.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:24
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Given how screwed up my eyes are already, definitely augmented vision if only so I no longer would have to deal with being blind the second my contacts/glasses are removed.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:31
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edit: dropping the debate. Sorry Bobbin, I hadn't refreshed the page in a bit and didn't see your post.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:35
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How's this game on the cut content side of things? The interrogation scene, which it seemed like you weren't supposed to see, just made me wonder if there was some sort of alternative route planned you could do while in the headquarters that would centre on you being part of it.
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Pvt.Scott posted:What nano augs would you get in real life? I'd be happy with a rebreather/aqualung and some auto-triage. Regeneration for sure. I'm tempted to say Cloak, too, just because it's nice not to be noticed sometimes.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:41
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Get ballistic protection, become super-hero.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:52
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Pvt.Scott posted:What nano augs would you get in real life? I'd be happy with a rebreather/aqualung and some auto-triage. Infolink! Internet access at all times in your head? Awesome!
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Mar 6, 2014 19:55
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Speed Enhancement. Superspeed, super jumping, and complete immunity to injury from falls would make for some fun afternoons.
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Mar 6, 2014 19:59
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DatonKallandor posted:Infolink! Internet access at all times in your head? Awesome! That would also mean that the internet has access to your head at all times.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:10
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Regeneration. I'd like to say Superspeed, but I think the vertigo would just be overwhelming in a real scenario.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:11
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Targeting definitely a bunch of situational info on people and telescopic eyes hey why not? Also clearly the light, IFF, and info link are included in the package because they come standard on JC  .
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Mar 6, 2014 20:22
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Ometeotl posted:Regeneration. I'd like to say Superspeed, but I think the vertigo would just be overwhelming in a real scenario.
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DatonKallandor posted:Infolink! Internet access at all times in your head? Awesome! That could go both ways. gently caress that poo poo. I'd probably get Microfibral Muscle, and Vision Enhancement. I mean, how useful would it be to have superhuman strength and the ability to see in darkness? I'd be using both of those all the time!
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Mar 6, 2014 20:29
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Considering how heavily Deus Ex relies on Alex Jones, I don't recall them ever mentioning his prize discovery of the Bohemian Grove ever being used in a Deus Ex game or mentioned at all, unless I'm remembering wrong. Has it? That's the only government conspiracy that isn't directly mentioned or alluded to.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:33
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Aqualung. Yes, seriously. I like the idea of being able to spend hours underwater without worrying about my air supply.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:33
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Cloak, super speed, and that aug that scrambles your sperm DNA. Cum ghost 2014
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:How's this game on the cut content side of things? The interrogation scene, which it seemed like you weren't supposed to see, just made me wonder if there was some sort of alternative route planned you could do while in the headquarters that would centre on you being part of it. Yeah, initially there was an option to join the NSF and fight against UNATCO early on or something. Lots of cut and mashed together content in the latter part of the game (after Hong Kong). The Deus Ex Bible contains a lot of info on this, but I'm sure Bobbin will talk about it when he gets there, in about half a year or so at this pace  Great LP Bobbin.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:46
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There was also meant to be an option for you to stay loyal to UNATCO.
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Add me to the list of folks with crap uncorrected eyesight who'd love to have five minutes free of my glasses, so definitely augmented vision. Preferably with Molly Millions-style mirrored implants, if that's not asking too much.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:56
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I'd go super speed just for the ability to jump down from places without getting hurt, and microfibral muscle for all those times my friends ask me to help them move.
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Mar 6, 2014 20:59
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my dad posted:That would also mean that the internet has access to your head at all times. Twitch plays: YOU Only good can come of this.
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Mar 6, 2014 21:05
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I'd probably get the aqualung because I'm terrified of drowning, but then never use it because I'm terrified of drowning.
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Mar 6, 2014 22:25
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Can't believe I'm the only one to pick SPY DRONE 
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Mzbundifund posted:Can't believe I'm the only one to pick SPY DRONE I always wondered how that actually works. The description mentions nanofactories assembling them on demand. So does JC just...poo poo out a drone?
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paragon1 posted:There was also meant to be an option for you to stay loyal to UNATCO. I always get why they had to cut this stuff; the game is absolutely packed with grade A content as it is. At the same time, I really wish the options to straight up join other factions were in. As for superpowers, regen to cure my arthritis forever and obviously microfiberal muscle. After two years of having hands that hurt every time I pick up something heavy, being able to lift a car and heal myself of almost all medical problems would be loving sweet.
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Wiseblood posted:I always wondered how that actually works. The description mentions nanofactories assembling them on demand. So does JC just...poo poo out a drone? One sunglass lens retracts, and his eyeball rolls out, sprouting a tiny propeller that spins up and begins to hover as it falls. It gradually stabilizes itself, then hovers back up to eye height as JC's enemies look on in shock and disgust. It flies closer and closer to a horrified NSF militiaman, paralyzed with fear and confusion. Closer and closer it flies, and just before he turns to run, it explodes, wiping out his credit cards.
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Wiseblood posted:I always wondered how that actually works. The description mentions nanofactories assembling them on demand. So does JC just...poo poo out a drone? I think it oozes out of his ear since that's where those glowing blue implants are. That or he coughs it out like he's got fly eggs in his lungs.
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Microfibral Muscle, picking up really heavy stuff seems like it'd be the mose useful and potentially fun thing to have. EDIT: I'm getting my games power names mixed up here. Penakoto fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Mzbundifund posted:Can't believe I'm the only one to pick SPY DRONE I've never actually picked this aug in any of my playthroughs; is it any use at all?
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Junior G-man posted:I've never actually picked this aug in any of my playthroughs; is it any use at all? The EMP blast can actually take out large robots. It uses a lot of biolectric energy though.
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The Spy Drone is pretty cool, but it's so situational and energy-intensive that there are difficulties in using it effectively.
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This might be more of a HR aug, but I'd go for the feather fall drop complete with the Kuvosa "SSHHHOOoooooooop" sound effect. Must have that sound effect or the aug is totally worthless.
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Agent Interrobang posted:The Spy Drone is pretty cool, but it's so situational and energy-intensive that there are difficulties in using it effectively. But think in IRL terms, if you've got the cranial slot you might as well use it, not like you'll have much cause of prematurely detonating incoming explosions, unless you wanna be an rear end at firework parties and set off everything early.
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Automatic Slim posted:This might be more of a HR aug, but I'd go for the feather fall drop complete with the Kuvosa "SSHHHOOoooooooop" sound effect. Must have that sound effect or the aug is totally worthless. Yeah, that one is from HR. It was a really cool touch though, to justify getting zero falling distance as "your legs have vernier thrusters that slow you down to a safe velocity!"
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If I had to choose just one, it'd probably be Regeneration. Probably the most useful overall, and without it you might hurt yourself with the other augs.
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Mzbundifund posted:One sunglass lens retracts, and his eyeball rolls out, sprouting a tiny propeller that spins up and begins to hover as it falls. It gradually stabilizes itself, then hovers back up to eye height as JC's enemies look on in shock and disgust. It flies closer and closer to a horrified NSF militiaman, paralyzed with fear and confusion. Closer and closer it flies, and just before he turns to run, it explodes, wiping out his credit cards. J. Chthulu Denton
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