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Brown Moses posted:I've also been approached by an agent from ICM Partners who has a publisher interested in publishing a book written by me about my work, so no doubt this thread, and Something Awful in general, will feature. Congrats man. Every time I look back at some of the arguments made in this thread during the immediate aftermath of the Ghouta attack, I always catch myself feeling disappointed that they wouldn't be recorded in the annals of history. Bullet dodged.
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Brown Moses posted:Big CW in Syria news What evidence did the Russians say they had btw? It's annoying how the gears of good evidence grind so slowly. By the time the good stuff has been put together by solid impartial experts the world has generally moved on and the narrative in peoples my set to what the headlines said at the time.
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Fizzil posted:There is no such thing as an alawi accent, the region has alot of sects and religions but generally they'd have regional accents and they would have identified it by whatever region these guys hail from. I'm not ruling this out yet, as an arab this is the first time i heard someone identifying people's language by sect, usually its by region or country. There is, dialects and accents in Syria can pinpoint someone's origin down to their village, and in some cases down to a sect or neighbourhood. An 'Alewite' accent is usually a rural coastal accent notable for it's strong K/Gh (ق) sound. There is a similar level of variance in British English, but it's become less and less distinct and local over time.
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Munin posted:What evidence did the Russians say they had btw? They claimed an on the ground investigation. Of course, the report was only given to the UN, with the main "findings" made public. It's also interesting the report was submitted to the OPCW investigation into the CW attacks, but in their report they couldn't even confirm the type of munition used let alone the specific type and who fired it, so the Russian report can't of been that convincing. Here's my thoughts from December on their claims quote:In July, Russia provided the UN with a 100-page report on their own investigation into the chemical attack in Khan al-Assal on March 19th 2013. While the report was not published, key findings were detailed by the Russian Foreign Ministry when the report was submitted, and also reiterated in an October statement by H.E. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin, Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations quote:A homemade rocket with a poisonous substance that has not been identified yet – one similar to the rocket used by terrorists on March 19 in Khan al-Assal - was fired early on August 21 [at Damascus suburbs] from a position occupied by the insurgents, Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy8NyEPZ2aQ&feature=youtu.be Eerie
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There's new evidence about the involvement of the Russian FSB in the murder of several ethnic Chechens in Turkey (2008-2011). The evidence also mentions other assassination targets in London, most likely Berezovsky (who killed himself last year) and Chechen exile Akhmed Zakayev. Both knew Litvinenko, who we know was killed by the FSB in 2006.
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Muffiner posted:There is, dialects and accents in Syria can pinpoint someone's origin down to their village, and in some cases down to a sect or neighbourhood. An 'Alewite' accent is usually a rural coastal accent notable for it's strong K/Gh (ق) sound. There is a similar level of variance in British English, but it's become less and less distinct and local over time. Would an Alawite from Damascus have the same accent (due to family, etc. using it)? Or would it fade away due to living in the city?
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Pieter posted:There's new evidence about the involvement of the Russian FSB in the murder of several ethnic Chechens in Turkey (2008-2011). The evidence also mentions other assassination targets in London, most likely Berezovsky (who killed himself last year) and Chechen exile Akhmed Zakayev. Both knew Litvinenko, who we know was killed by the FSB in 2006. You might want to post this in the Eastern Europe thread too. Some people there will probably find it interesting.
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The X-man cometh posted:Would an Alawite from Damascus have the same accent (due to family, etc. using it)? Or would it fade away due to living in the city? Usually people treat dialects as separate languages, so you rarely hear anybody consciously mixing the two up. Outside of a 'local' environment, such as one's hometown or family, people usually try and use the city's prestige dialect if they do not usually use one. this is usually Damascene in Syria, something which even Aleppo natives speak in when in a non-local environment. A native speaker can usually tell if someone is an outsider, depending on how good the outsider's accent is and the native's ears are. So basically, someone from Yabrud will try to use Damascene when speaking with someone from outside of Kalamoon (The region Yabroud is a part of). When they're talking to their family or another group of Yabroudis they will use their distinct local dialect. When talking to a mixed group they will use Damascene. Use of local or 'prestige' dialect when talking to other Kalamoonis who have a similar dialect is subjective. Why do people do this? Dialects get very, very weird sometimes. I hope that clarifies a weird quirk in Syrian dialects. I'll go a bit deeper. When you're working in an official capacity, a prestige dialect is almost compulsory. It shows some sort of respect towards yourself and towards whoever you're dealing with. One thing that some anti-regime people despise is the boisterous use of Alewite dialects by many pro-regime officials when trying to put down somebody, or when trying to display power or arrogance. Before the revolution, the presidential guard was respected to a certain extent for not doing this. If you look at most of the torture videos, Alewite dialects are almost always used, even if the user is not an Alewite. It is an interesting dynamic, to say the least.
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A UK charity made an ad that attempts to portray a british child going through what Syrian kids have had to deal with since the revolution started, to sort of bridge the culture gap. Pretty well done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ-IoHfimQ
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I'm unfamiliar with the particulars of the state itself, but why is the Emir of Qatar so close to the MB? Doha's rulers don't seem to be any more or less pious than the other Gulf countries that broke off ties recently, at least to me. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/05/arab-states-qatar-withdraw-ambassadors-protest
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Volkerball posted:A UK charity made an ad that attempts to portray a british child going through what Syrian kids have had to deal with since the revolution started, to sort of bridge the culture gap. Pretty well done.
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Muffiner posted:I'll go a bit deeper. When you're working in an official capacity, a prestige dialect is almost compulsory. It shows some sort of respect towards yourself and towards whoever you're dealing with. One thing that some anti-regime people despise is the boisterous use of Alewite dialects by many pro-regime officials when trying to put down somebody, or when trying to display power or arrogance. Before the revolution, the presidential guard was respected to a certain extent for not doing this. If you look at most of the torture videos, Alewite dialects are almost always used, even if the user is not an Alewite. It is an interesting dynamic, to say the least. That's interesting, thanks for that. One set of my grandparents were descended from Syrian immigrants and both spoke the Damascus accent, they kept the accent despite never living in Syria at all. Aurubin posted:I'm unfamiliar with the particulars of the state itself, but why is the Emir of Qatar so close to the MB? Doha's rulers don't seem to be any more or less pious than the other Gulf countries that broke off ties recently, at least to me. Qatar has: The only Israeli embassy in the Arab World The only official Taliban diplomatic mission US CENTCOM Forward Headquarters Full ownership of Jazeera News They're trying to become a sporting hub with the World Cup bid and their dominance of sports coverage with AJ Sports, Qatar Airways is trying to be the transport hub of the Middle East instead of Emirates. Qatar Holdings bought Harrods, tried to buy FC Barcelona, and the same government that controls them offered billions to Morsi's government thinking the MB would be a good political tool to control. To be diplomatic about it Qatar is a confusing place with fingers in a lot of pies. Part of that could be the sudden, unexpected, shift in leadership a year ago but they've always been full of contradictions. Oh also there are only 250,000 Qataris.
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A cameraman manages to film his own death, selfie style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7NfwKId0xI Saadi Gaddafi is now in the custody of the Libyan government (or whatever you call it)
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# ? Mar 6, 2014 09:59 |
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I thought they exiled all these people to the new world back in the day.
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Apparently Australians are allowed visas now, and clearly they've started mixing with the british poor.
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Volkerball posted:I thought they exiled all these people to the new world back in the day. Listen, 50% of the federal budget goes to foreign aid [citation needed]. That could be helping industrious small business owners instead.
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Saudi, the UAE and Bahrain have withdrawn their ambassadors from Qatar, due to increasing antagonism. They basically want the Qataris to tow the Gulf line and stop acting like it is an independent state or something. I'm being told by *sources* that they're willing to go as far as visas! removal from the GCC and sanctions if they don't cut it out. Kuwait is worried and Oman has been asked to mediate.
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Muffiner posted:Saudi, the UAE and Bahrain have withdrawn their ambassadors from Qatar, due to increasing antagonism. They basically want the Qataris to tow the Gulf line and stop acting like it is an independent state or something. So is this a Saudi power play? Would they bring back the old Emir?
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Qatar has: Egypt has the only official Israeli embassy, the Qatari's have a 'diplomatic envoy' type thing and are the first in the gulf to OPENLY (not secretly like the other's do) suck the dick of that racist little fascist poo poo hole and allow their terrorists into the country, not that the others dont try their damnest though. I don't know what 'it' is exactly thats causing the gulf regimes to suddenly shout and scream and behave like this in the open, but as far as I'm concerned anything that gets these cretins to eat each other alive is fine by me.
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Al-Saqr posted:suck the dick of that racist little fascist poo poo hole As an Indian, let me assure you that Qatar is a racist little fascist poo poo hole too, so it works.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:
Don't forget Hamas.
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Somebody fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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So I guess Erdogan may or may not ban facebook and youtube in response to the phone call leaks http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/03/erdogan-sounds-social-media-ban-warning-20143725046895706.html quote:Turkey's prime minister has given warning that his government could ban social media networks YouTube and Facebook after a number of online leaks added momentum to a growing corruption scandal.
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If he really does outright ban Facebook and Youtube, he might actually get straight up overthrown solely because of that. The populace at large in developed countries have grown too accustomed to social media to accept it being taken away like that.
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Is Erdogan intentionally making his descent into dictatorship look like an enormous temper-tantrum? It's all I can think of when I read about it.
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Are there any ongoing protests in Turkey right now over all this?
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I'm going to Istanbul on holiday in 6 weeks :s
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mediadave posted:I'm going to Istanbul on holiday in 6 weeks :s You'll be fine. what's going on is a political intrigue issue and stuff behind the scenes, not a nation-ending scenario like other countries in the middle east. Have fun! Istanbul is fantastic!
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mediadave posted:I'm going to Istanbul on holiday in 6 weeks :s Well, that should certainly spur a lot of protests.
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Al-Saqr posted:You'll be fine. what's going on is a political intrigue issue and stuff behind the scenes, not a nation-ending scenario like other countries in the middle east. My siblings and I are sending my mother there for Mother's Day and I'm suddenly starting to regret the decision despite knowing this. Honestly, the whole family has been planning to visit Turkey since last summer but the constant turmoil there has scared us off multiple times. I guess I finally understand how every other nation feels about Lebanon though. It's a good thing that March 14th will be a completely uneventful day wherein absolutely nothing bad will happen!
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mediadave posted:I'm going to Istanbul on holiday in 6 weeks :s Traveling to Istanbul is fine. If you do see a protest just leave the area and don't get involved. Hell, I had a great time in Egypt last month and would go back again if I could. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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I've written a piece for the Daily Beast, It’s Time Russia Published Its Dodgy Chemical Weapons Dossier, pointing out that Russia's investigation into the Khan al-Assal chemical attack and their attempts to blame the opposition have been shown to be total crap. Elsewhere, there's a very detailed piece about claims made about the August 21st Sarin attack, and how claims the opposition were responsible don't add up. And I, too, will be going to Istanbul soon.
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Brown Moses posted:I've written a piece for the Daily Beast, It’s Time Russia Published Its Dodgy Chemical Weapons Dossier, pointing out that Russia's investigation into the Khan al-Assal chemical attack and their attempts to blame the opposition have been shown to be total crap. Elsewhere, there's a very detailed piece about claims made about the August 21st Sarin attack, and how claims the opposition were responsible don't add up. I'm glad your troll commenteers follow you everywhere on the internet.
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Dusseldorf posted:I'm glad your troll commenteers follow you everywhere on the internet. Well, they have to tell the world about the evil Illuminati sponsored conspiracist! Why has he not admitted he is a Knight of the SMOM! Anyway, I'd really like like to go to Istanbul, and Turkey in general at some point. Likely to be easier to go to than another place I'd like to have a look at at some point, Esfahan. Turkey wise it is really a bit sad to see how Erdogan has developed. Though there had been some misgivings even then amongst some people, initially it was great that someone managed to shake up the political framework in Turkey and get certain previously underrepresented viewpoints a bigger voice. His increasing turn towards totalitarian statements and actions has really poisoned any positive legacy he might have left behind and entrenched existing divisions further. Munin fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Erdogan fears the one facebook post that will unlock the gates of a utopian society. Also isn't ship watching a social media niche? Hmmm, why would you not want people talking about the Bosporous?
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Dusseldorf posted:I'm glad your troll commenteers follow you everywhere on the internet. Lots of them there now, I do like how they question how can I know the content of the dossier if I haven't read it, which is rather the point I'm trying to make.
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Brown Moses posted:Lots of them there now, I do like how they question how can I know the content of the dossier if I haven't read it, which is rather the point I'm trying to make. How does It feel to have rabid obsessive groupies?
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It's kinda complimentary they care so much to bother following around the internet posting stupid poo poo.
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Of all the things for Egypt to spend a billion dollars on, this isn't one of themquote:Egypt is about to acquire four Gowind-class corvettes from France in a $1.38 billion (€1 billion) deal, French newspaper La Tribune said on Thursday. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/03/07/Report-Egypt-to-purchase-four-warships-from-France-.html
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