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Since it's International Women's Day (or was yesterday depending on where you live) I thought I'd share some maps about the treatment of women in different countries.  Both are from this Wikipedia article and both are from 2011 so they're a little bit outdated
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Mar 9, 2014 03:46
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So is there any country where women are physically secure? Because it doesn't look like it. Unless one of those countries that looks like "no data" is. The colors are pretty bad on that map.
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Mar 9, 2014 03:57
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Maybe one of the microstates?
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Mar 9, 2014 04:02
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Do any women live in Vatican City?
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Mar 9, 2014 04:39
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Ofaloaf posted:Do any women live in Vatican City? Nuns.
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Mar 9, 2014 04:58
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Not to poop in anyones cereal, but isn't the idea of absolute physical security for anyone incredibly utopic?
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Mar 9, 2014 05:02
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Ilustforponydeath posted:Not to poop in anyones cereal, but isn't the idea of absolute physical security for anyone incredibly utopic? That's why stand your ground laws are so important 
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Mar 9, 2014 06:44
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Ammat The Ankh posted:So is there any country where women are physically secure? Because it doesn't look like it. Groenland? Mostly empty, I don't know how native women fare. Svalbard? Even less people, large proportion of contract miners and scientists? Wiki says among safest places on Earth. Western Sahara? Does not exists, move along, move along, says the Moroccan soldier. Central African Republic? Currently in a vicious civil war with ethno-religious overtones. So best countries are Sweden, Danemark, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland and Austria.
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Mar 9, 2014 07:01
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That map makes it seem like there are huge differences amongst European countries. France has 'high' while Germany has 'medium'? I don't think those countries are that different in this regard. Maybe some very subtle differences. But nothing compared to the difference between Europe as a whole and, say, Saudi Arabia. And that country is only two 'color' steps away from Germany? This map doesn't make much sense to me.
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Mar 9, 2014 09:46
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ecureuilmatrix posted:Groenland? Mostly empty, I don't know how native women fare. Yeah, looking it up, half of the women on Greenland have either suffered actual violence, or serious threats of violence, and the remoteness of the country pretty much leaves them to deal with it on their own. At least the alcohol abuse part has improved massively in recent years, falling by 30% since 2000, so now they drink less on average than us Danes. (Not that we're the image of appropriate alcohol use.) http://www.westnordic-equality.org/violence-against-women
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Mar 9, 2014 10:06
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This is their definition, for what it's worth:quote:A. Multivariate Scale #1 (Physical Security of Women) MULTIVAR-SCALE-1: Originally coded February 2007 (look for updates in database); Professor Mary Caprioli's Physical Security of Women Scale. WomanStats variables examined include DV (Law 1, Practice 1 and 2, Data 1 (Domestic Violence), LRW (Law 1, Practice 1 and 2, Data 1 (Rape and Sexual Assault), LRCM (Law 2, Practice 1 and 2, Data 1 (Marital Rape), MURDER (Practice 1, Data 1). In 2013, we also asked coders to examine newer variables as well, including EWCMS (Practice 3, Law 5, Data 2 and 3), GEW (Practice 1, Law 1, Data 1), Suicide Practice 1, UVAW Practice 1, and LRCM Practice 2, Law 3, Data 2. We also asked coders to use the following scales as a check: Murder Scale 1, Suicide Scale 1, LRW Scales 4, 5, and 6. (NOTE: This scale does not include female infanticide, which is covered under the ISSA scales.) The map you can find here is scaled green-to-red and it's more obvious that there aren't any countries with full security for women on their definition. Zohar fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Mar 9, 2014 |
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Mar 9, 2014 10:36
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Zohar posted:The map you can find here is scaled green-to-red and it's more obvious that there aren't any countries with full security for women on their definition. Then why even include it on the scale? It just compresses the rest of the categories and makes the data less useful.
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Mar 9, 2014 13:51
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Then why even include it on the scale? It just compresses the rest of the categories and makes the data less useful. They probably include that to say that women are never totally physically secure, which is what the point of the map is to show. Or, less cynically, perhaps they're anticipating the worldwide situation getting better in the future and include that step on the scale so they don't have to add additional steps on the scale and there can be some continuity when people look at that map across different years.
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Mar 9, 2014 13:59
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Mar 9, 2014 14:00
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Then why even include it on the scale? It just compresses the rest of the categories and makes the data less useful.
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Mar 9, 2014 14:01
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Makes it obvious that "Women have high levels of physical security" isn't a level we should settle for, it's just superior to the other ones. I think that's what they're going for, given that it's explicitly "fairly high" rather than just "high" on the map I linked.
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Mar 9, 2014 14:03
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Because if there's one thing that would help England, it's the destruction of its most valuable defensive asset.
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Mar 9, 2014 14:24
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TheBalor posted:Because if there's one thing that would help England, it's the destruction of its most valuable defensive asset. It looks like this was proposed during the interwar period as well.
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Mar 9, 2014 14:26
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At least World War 2 would have been more interesting.
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Mar 9, 2014 14:26
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computer parts posted:It looks like this was proposed during the interwar period as well. Maybe it was proposed by Germans.
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Mar 9, 2014 14:32
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Kennel posted:Maybe it was proposed by Germans. Sneaky bastards even put the Battle of Jutland on that map!
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Mar 9, 2014 14:46
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Kamrat posted:Since it's International Women's Day (or was yesterday depending on where you live) I thought I'd share some maps about the treatment of women in different countries. You won't break any laws by trafficking women in Iran? I find that difficult to believe. Also: the Caspain Sea isn't a good place for women, either.
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Mar 9, 2014 15:29
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Count Roland posted:You won't break any laws by trafficking women in Iran? I find that difficult to believe. Edit: sorry, broken w key messing with link.
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Mar 9, 2014 15:40
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Count Roland posted:You won't break any laws by trafficking women in Iran? I find that difficult to believe. Each data point has sources in their database -- in this case it appears that until 2004 the law in fact didn't specifically prohibit trafficking in persons, and even after a law was passed that year illegalising it the regime has apparently continued to be directly involved in trafficking according to various different sources, so they've presumably taken the law to be non-credible. You need to create an account to see the data but it's free, and looks quite useful actually. Though yeah the filling in of internal seas on those maps is a bit weird.
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Mar 9, 2014 15:43
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A Buttery Pastry posted:My immediate suspicion would be "not particularly well", due to a combination of social problems and alcohol abuse. It's actually gone worse, a recent examination pointed out that 50% of native greenland women have been molested, sexually assaulted, or raped, before the age of 18. 80% of the time, it's a family member, 10% of the time, it isn't a family member, but still someone close. (teacher, stepfather/stepmother, etc...)
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Mar 9, 2014 17:00
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SniHjen posted:It's actually gone worse, a recent examination pointed out that 50% of native greenland women have been molested, sexually assaulted, or raped, before the age of 18. Wow, those are horrible statistics. Have any good articles on the subject that I can read?
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Mar 9, 2014 17:08
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Kamrat posted:Wow, those are horrible statistics. It's hard to come by, I have a few. English http://www.circumpolarhealthjournal.net/index.php/ijch/article/viewFile/18263/20956 Rapes, and attempted rapes (that was actually reported to the police) and this one: Danish http://www.si-folkesundhed.dk/upload/detsvaereungdomsliv_dk.pdf pages 83 and forward. 25% kvinder og 6% mænd var blevet tvunget eller forsøgt tvunget til nogen form for seksuel aktivitet som barn (under 13 år) (34). 25% women, and 6% of men, have been forced, or attempted forced, into some sort of sexual activity as a child (below 13 years) (note 34) Other notes from here: (regarding a 2004 report) "this is an increase since 1993-94, but that is mostly because of the increased focus on the problem. (only a few (no specific number) of the children actually talked to the police, so it is certain, that the actual numbers are much higher.)
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Mar 9, 2014 17:55
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/287-dam-you-mediterranean-the-atlantropa-project/  
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Mar 9, 2014 17:59
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Wasn't one of these proposals meant to create a homeland for European Jews instead of them going to Palestine?
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Mar 9, 2014 18:02
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Question: Would these ridiculous "Reclaim the land from the sea"-type megaprojects be more or less expensive than just building a space colony?
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Mar 9, 2014 18:05
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SniHjen posted:It's hard to come by, I have a few. Thanks man, will read them both soon when I have the chance. Will probably be both an interesting and horrifying read though. SniHjen posted:25% kvinder og 6% mænd var blevet tvunget eller forsøgt tvunget til nogen form gently caress, that's horrible. Is Denmark working on the problem or is it up to the Greenland government to work on it? Edit: Never mind, just checked wikipedia and it said that Greenland handles those kind of matters on their own. Kamrat fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Mar 9, 2014 |
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Mar 9, 2014 18:07
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Farecoal posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa That Venice canal is hilarious.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:09
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DrSunshine posted:Question: Would these ridiculous "Reclaim the land from the sea"-type megaprojects be more or less expensive than just building a space colony? The Mediterranean Sea one probably wouldn't be because the dams are short. The 450 mile long dam across the North Sea would probably be worth a moon base or two.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:11
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It would be incredibly expensive, also because places like Barcelona or Antwerp would suddenly be inland cities. Rebuilding all that infrastructure would be very costly. The Channel would also lose its function as a maritime trade route.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:22
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Raskolnikov38 posted:The Mediterranean Sea one probably wouldn't be because the dams are short. The 450 mile long dam across the North Sea would probably be worth a moon base or two. The building costs would not be that expensive as you said, while the damage done to the coastal cities (and the entire coastline) would just be huge. But space colonies are REALLY expensive, especially on other planets. I vote to use the funds earmarked for the mega-dams to build a space elevator. Edit: And in light of recent events, I don't know how Russia would take a stranding of their Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:28
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Phlegmish posted:It would be incredibly expensive, also because places like Barcelona or Antwerp would suddenly be inland cities. Rebuilding all that infrastructure would be very costly. The Channel would also lose its function as a maritime trade route. Yeah but a Berlin-Cape Town train!!!!!
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Mar 9, 2014 18:30
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Torrannor posted:Edit: And in light of recent events, I don't know how Russia would take a stranding of their Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:33
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DrSunshine posted:Question: Would these ridiculous "Reclaim the land from the sea"-type megaprojects be more or less expensive than just building a space colony? The point of these projects was only partly to gain more land but also to combat unemployment through massive public works programs and the generation of ridiculous amounts of cheap electricity. Space colonies wouldn't provide any of that, although would arguably be more cool than living on a soggy wasteland 700m below sea level with a pile of dead fish.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:42
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Farecoal posted:Yeah but a Berlin-Cape Town train!!!!! Imagine the sheer amount of negotiation that you'd need to accomplish such a feat! You'd need to coordinate the leadership of dozens of countries! Speaking about megaprojects, it's a shame that relations between the USA and Russia have cooled recently, since it means that cooperating on the Bering strait tunnel crossing and railroad will probably be delayed.   Imagine that! Being able to take a train from Miami all the way to Lisbon! Or shipping freight by rail directly from the factories of China all the way to America!  Magnificent!!
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Mar 9, 2014 18:44
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Opening up the Arctic sea routes are probably orders of magnitude cheaper and quicker than that.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:53
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