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There's a conversation with Heather if you turn around and head back to your apartment in Santa Monica before you talk to LaCroix.
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Erlkonig posted:
Well, you are a vampire. Aesclepia posted:She's resourceful! Yeah, it's pretty impressive and somewhat worrying that she finds your house so easily. It's not like you're in the phone book.
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drat, that scene with Heather never fails to creep me out. The whole dialogue just feels so sociopathic and jarring.
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Stroth posted:There's a conversation with Heather if you turn around and head back to your apartment in Santa Monica before you talk to LaCroix. What's the conversation about? I don't have a save file from back when I recorded the previous update. Please put your reply in spoiler tags, if necessary. Ghostwoods posted:Holy crap. Chunk has made an amazing recovery, even for the oWoD. I forgot about that! I was planning on making that comment, but it totally slipped my mind. I'll quote what you said, since you said it well.
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gatz posted:What's the conversation about? I don't have a save file from back when I recorded the previous update. Please put your reply in spoiler tags, if necessary. It's the 'I'm a vampire, you're a ghoul, yes I drink blood, no it's not a sex thing stop asking that' conversation
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Mar 9, 2014 04:26
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Stroth posted:It's the 'I'm a vampire, you're a ghoul, yes I drink blood, no it's not a sex thing stop asking that' conversation That conversation happens even after you meet with LaCroix. We'll see it in the next update.
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Mar 9, 2014 04:39
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gatz posted:That conversation happens even after you meet with LaCroix. We'll see it in the next update. That's a plus patch fix then. Cool.
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Mar 9, 2014 04:40
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Good point. I should always remember the plus patch.
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   This song is unused. It sounds perfect for an ending theme, but I'll just show it off here because of LaCroix being in the title. Now to tell LaCroix about what happened.   And the Ankaran Sarcophagus - what did you see? There was blood all over the floor. Handprints indicate it was opened from within. Opened?LaCroix can't hide the shock in his voice, here. But as quickly as it shows, he hides it away: Let's not jump to conclusions. Give me the manifest and your notes, I'll sort this mess later.LaCroix knows that he has an appearance to maintain. He may be alarmed on the inside, but he makes an effort never to show it. *sigh* You might have noticed when you came in, the parade of malingering mollycoddles filing out. Yeah. Who were they? The Sabbat's appearance has put the primogen on edge. Grout's mansion is in the Hollywood Hills. I need you to pry Grout out of whatever crack he's crawled into and have him contact us.If you're playing as a male, LaCroix prefaces those lines by saying: "Each minor problem like a grain of sand, each night I inherit the desert." Why he leaves this out if you're playing as a female is a question that doesn't have an answer. We can act rebellious, but we're still going to schmooze. Certainly. Is that all? Yes, about Grout: as I said, Grout is the Malkavian primogen. His behavior and home are... eccentric, to say the least. He's developed a paranoid bent lately, so you may have to check under every bed in the place for him.He's Malkavian, so it's bound to be an adventure. Before we go, though, let's probe LaCroix's brain. We've gained some amount of his respect, so why not use it to our advantage by asking for information? I have a few questions to ask before I go. I suppose I can spare a few seconds.... Tell me about yourself. From that time onward, I counted some of the greatest Kindred in Europe as my mentors, and worked toward establishing a Camarilla presence in new territories. In 1930, I came to the Americas and staked power in New York. Soon after, I headed West to claim domain.And you were given a hell of a city. Way to go! Los Angeles: where there are as many factions vying for power as paintings on your penthouse wall. What clan are you? We share the same blood, you and I. Without the Ventrue, the organization of the Camarilla would have dissipated long ago, and the other clans would have turned to each other's throats over petty landgrabs. That... is the burden we must bear.His nose flew straight up when he said that. Tell me about Beckett. You've met Beckett? Yes, he did pay me the courtesy of announcing his presence in my city. He's lionized in Kindred society - by most. Beckett's the definition of renowned scholar, but he's also a lone wolf, and owes allegiance only to his intellectual pursuits. Tell me about Jack. Jack... hmm. The man is a scourge - the physical manifestation of chaos. Whenever he makes an appearance in one's city, it is only a matter of time before a calamity is attributed to his latest lark. Tell me about that guy standing behind you. Tell me more about the primogen. They are the representatives of their clans, though more often than not, they represent their own best interests. They stay close to power, but they lack the backbone to lead. Be thankful you don't have to deal with them, at least for now.This is how we know LaCroix trusts us on some level - he's willing to tell us what he really thinks about the primogen. Now let's move from people to sects. Tell me about the Camarilla. In this age of information, videotape, and weapons of mass destruction, the Camarilla is more necessary than it has ever been. The alternative to thorough secrecy these days... is extinction. As long as we exist, so shall Kindred society.I've addressed this before. Next. Tell me about the Sabbat. Every night you wake up, be thankful you were not sired by one of their kind or you would have woken under the ground - forced to claw your way up from the dirt into a brief, bloody, violent existence. Savages... bloodthirsty, irresponsible heathens!I'm not so sure that the Sabbat are into one night stands, but I get the point. That's all we can ask of him for now. I'm ready to go see Grout. When we hear from Grout, you may come back. Until then. This is why it's beneficial to suck up to LaCroix, even if you hate his guts. This is the only other haven we're going to get, as a Ventrue. If we were playing as a Tremere, we would instead have to suck up to Strauss to get a haven in his building. We're going to first check out our new haven. See you at the Skyline Apartments.  Apartment 4 is the one that has the scratched-out mailbox on the ground floor. Heading on in...  Nice. It has the basic look of every apartment here, but it's without a doubt a major improvement over our lovely apartment in Santa Monica. We can always head back there, but we've got no reason to with this place to stay in.  More paintings that I don't know the name of.  There's also a giant aquarium. Who's going to keep the fish alive? Probably Heather, and she should be here.  She's upstairs, next to our fancy computer.  This conversation doesn't feel any less creepy than our last one. I didn't decorate it. She doesn't even know what she is. Supposedly LaCroix's goons told her to move in, but they apparently didn't mention what the circumstances are. We should fill her in before she finds out by her own accord. There's something you should know before we go on. Oh... are you married? Is that why you don't want me around?Will she even believe us? No. You survived because of my blood. I am a vampire. You are bound to me. We have 3 ways to respond: We can either be nice, act like a super-powerful vampire that would cast her out the moment she no longer becomes helpful, or act like a kind of sadistic vampire master. We're going with the first option. I'm afraid not. My blood commingles with your own. A term for you is ghoul. That first option is too creepy for me. Do you want to leave forever? To love someone else? No! Please don't leave. I don't care what you are, just don't leave me.There's no way to not make this sound awful, but I'm choosing the least sadistic/creepy options. If anything, it just demonstrates that the writers can actually write. Instead of us being detached from this relationship, this conversation, it's actually uncomfortable to go through. That's great. Now, do something to show me you care. Tell me about yourself. Me? I'm not so special, you know. I go to college, I'm majoring in fashion design... I think I'm pretty creative. I just started school - a year late, because my... my parents died - um, car crash. I didn't really have anyone special in my life... until you came along.There's no good way to respond to this. How sad... Don't worry, I'm here for you, dearest Heather. Heh.... I feel famished. Share your blood with me. Please... take me inside of you. Troika tried to make her into a normal, slightly geeky girl, but then they just *had* to give her a giant pair of breasts with permanently erect nipples. You were doing so well, Troika, why did you have to gently caress it up? You don't need to sexualize every female character in the game.  Heather's a little out of it after we sucked on her neck, so let's check our email.  It's a fancy monitor, but the resolution isn't correct.  7 posted:<Subject> Repaid favors We'll head back to see Mercurio eventually... 8 posted:<Subject> DON'T TOUCH THE BUTTER! We'll have to take this under advisement.  Further exploring our apartment, we find another occult power-up.  There's also one last painting to show off. Now we're going to leave. We'll see Heather again later. To the streets.    Hmmm... we've passed this area a few times, but never explored it. Is there anything to this vacant lot? What about the door on the left?  It's unlocked. Inside we go.   Is this just an abandoned building?  Wha--   He sounds really scared. I know exactly what to do! Look out! It's right behind you! Agh - ah - aaaahhhh! Aaaahhhh!!! Nah, I'm just screwing with you. What are you talking about? My crew... my crew, w- we were... we were here shooting for my show. I'm a parapsychologist - Haunted LA? Oh god, it was right behind me. We've got to get out of here!Haunted LA? Did this guy really buy into his BS show? Then again, this is the world of darkness we're talking about. He could have really seen something. What's behind you? Look, I'll level with you. We- we- we usually fake these things, you know? Ghosts... that's all bullshit. We were setting up downstairs and... weird poo poo started happening, uh... my crew, they all started disappearing. [choked up]I- I don't know what's happening. Wait here... I'll go see if I can find them. A-no! No, don't go down there! We've gotta get out. It's coming... it's coming... it's coming...! A-heh - A-HEH-HAH! He runs five feet away and stands here. He just babbles more if we try to talk to him. Let's get to the bottom of this whole affair.  Yes, let's get to the bottom of this.  Entering into the room on the left, we see this guy running on the monitor.  Suddenly, some invisible force propels him forward! Something is definitely going on here, but what exactly could it be?  To go any further, we have to go back one room, and up into this air-duct.  That eventually leads us to a staircase. Many parts of the hallways in the hospital are blocked off by debris.  We have to head under the staircase.  A woman is screaming, being pulled back against her will. What could be causing this?  Well, at least they had their camera set up. We're heading down.  And even further down, into the ground...  Up the right path...  ...we find this goth guy, pounding on the door. He looks behind him, screams, and pounds on the door harder.  Woah! We're getting close. Through a door on the right...  We're lead into what looks to be the morgue of the hospital.  With this woman standing around. She must be the culprit. As we approach...  ...she digs the man's heart out of his body with her teeth.  She ate his flesh. She can't be just a regular vampire. And look at her eyes. What could she be? What are you? [Listen] Drinking blood to sustain your death, you are damned, yes? What if, besides the blood of the living, you had to eat pounds of their flesh to maintain that thin façade of life - what would you call it? Twice damned? You have to eat human flesh? It's probably best not to mess with her. Who can say what's natural and what isn't, anyway? I don't understand. I kill or I rot. For every night I go without it, I wilt. All things must consume life to avoid dying. You and I are no exception.Some single celled organisms don't, no, but we'll play along. Yeah, I agree with that. This perspective is uncommon. The multitude see death as tragic. If this were true, so then would be birth.I think she means because birth would mean the eventual death of the child. Who are you? Why are you living in a comdemned building? My stay in this city is transitory. I seek relics of the occult traced here, and would trade similar artifacts to acquire them... but if you wish to bargain with me, the kine upstairs must be sent down here. He has seen too much.Jack spoke about the camarilla malkavian living under the abandoned hotel. I'm not sure if that vampire became Pisha or not. He'll never come down here. He's scared out of his mind. Tell him this was all a ruse - his friends playing a joke. He will come. He must come down here. If he leaves, the frail disguise we wear for mortals will be seen through.He could violate the masquerade. I'm sure we can guess what her plans are for him, but let's be sure. Are you going to eat him? We'll do it, even if it feels wrong. We'll pretend that Melissa is a consequentialist with the end-goal of upholding the masquerade above all. If it has to be this way. I'll take care of it right now.We head back up to the entrance...  ...but the guy is gone! There is still something on the floor, however.  How convenient that he dropped this. We'll be heading back to the skyline apartments next time. gatz fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Mar 9, 2014 |
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Mar 9, 2014 10:13
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I'm not sure that the permanent erect nipples on heather isn't just a plus patch / wesp thing. I dont remember being able to cut glass with heathers nipples in my original runthrough the game.
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Mar 9, 2014 10:30
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gatz posted:I kill or I rot. For every night I go without it, I wilt. All things must consume life to avoid dying. You and I are no exception.  All animals have to consume living cells to survive. It's the defining attribute of the group. And I'm pretty sure Jack was talking about a hypothetical vampire-on-the-street, not a specific vamp.
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Mar 9, 2014 10:32
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gatz posted:
I think no one in this apartment is going to survive this game.
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Mar 9, 2014 10:40
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Interesting. In the original game galdjum isn't available until well into hollywood. Guess the plus patch moved it to give some parity to the upgraded tremere haven (tremere can't get the skyline apt, they just get a bitchin room at the chantry--which also comes with an occult powerup, only it buffs thaumaturgy damage)
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Mar 9, 2014 10:50
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Now that we've gotten the apartment, can we start antagonizing Lacroix? He's much more amusing when you stubbornly refuse to do his bidding, especially considering that the only reward we'd get going forward is additional money - which is not a very rare resource.
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A question to the many WoD buffs in the thread: wha exactly is "Pisha"?
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Aumanor posted:A question to the many WoD buffs in the thread: wha exactly is "Pisha"? She's a Nagaraja. They're sort of Tremere knockoffs. Mages, sought ultimate power, experimented with vampire blood, turned themselves undead accidently. Odd that one shows up in bloodlines, since they're mostly associated with the 'True black Hand' crap. Which, as has been pointed out in the thread before, everyone hated.
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I really like the abandoned hospital. It's a classic set-up for a horror movie monster, then you get to the end and have a civilized conversation with said monster. Like it doesn't even occur to Pisha to be anything but 'oh, hey, sup'   while eating a dude right in front of you. Really drives home what the protagonist is in Bloodlines.And yeah, I'm with Tithin Melias on this, I think Heather's pointiest assets are a Wesp addition.
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Mar 9, 2014 13:42
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Tithin Melias posted:I'm not sure that the permanent erect nipples on heather isn't just a plus patch / wesp thing. I dont remember being able to cut glass with heathers nipples in my original runthrough the game. Eh, to be fair, drinking or having your blood drunk is meant to be kind of orgasmic or whatever, better than that. So I don't find Heather's nips out of place or anything, especially considering some characters in this game.
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Stroth posted:She's a Nagaraja. They're sort of Tremere knockoffs. Mages, sought ultimate power, experimented with vampire blood, turned themselves undead accidently. Although the Nagaraja ended up with the Necromancy Discipline instead of the Thaumaturgy Discipline. Necromancy, btw, is ridiculously powerful if you're running a more social/political game because it allows you to command wraiths who can invisibly spy on just about any other vampire at any time day or night.
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I remember I was 100% certain there would be a boss battle downstairs in the abandoned hospital and was very impressed when the game gives you a very polite NPC that is a flesh eating monster to talk with instead of an automatic fight. Pisha is great. And the Nagaraja is one of the extra clans that were added later to VtM, right? I'm not a huge WoD buff but I did play it a little years ago and I think I remember there was a splat book for extra vampire clans and other supernatural creatures.
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Just a little late, but the references to John Carpenter's The Fog continue as Antonio Bay is the name of the cursed city that's attacked by the ghosts. Now we just need a reference to Stevie Wayne. Also had no idea you could just look at the Sarcophagus from afar. I did it the hard way... let's just say it was time consuming.
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Kanthulhu posted:
You have clans, and you have bloodlines. Clans all trace themselves to a 3rd gen progenitor that shares/inspires their characteristics. A ventrue is a ventrue is a ventrue. Occasionally, someone of potent blood could--through force of will, quirk of supernatural ability, and fuzzy ST ruling--create a different twist on their childer. These vampires could have different in-clan disciplines and even a different weakness (though generally it stays thematically related to the parent clan's). This is a bloodline--a unique and recognized variant. As a rule there aren't many of whatever flavor you encounter. Too weird to live, too strange to die. Most kindred aren't familiar with them, if they even think such a thing possible. The Tremere and Giovanni both started out this way, but through diablerie and mass embracing they ate their way to full clan status. To clarify the point earlier, the Nagaraja aren't related to the Tremere; they're just a group of mortal necromancers that accidentally embraced themselves. Only their embrace was twisted, so instead of just having to drink blood, they need a quantity of flesh as well or they start rotting away. Needless to say, this isn't a bloodline that's going to thrive anytime soon. Other bloodlines are the "Daughters of Cacophony" which either branch from the Malkavians or Toreador, Samedi (Yet Another Necromancer bloodline), Blood Brothers (an artificial bloodline crafted through Tzimisce sorcery) and many more--a bloodline can have one member or dozens. Pisha is actually pretty well done--she's a mystic seeking related artifacts to her interests. True, it's like meeting the vampire equivalent of a hairless albino bear but it isn't handled poorly, so kudos Troika. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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It's worth noting that, should the player choose so, you can antagonise Pisha to the point where combat begins. She'll summon an endless horde of zombies and block off the exits using magical fires until the player or Pisha is dead. Depending on your build the fight can range from reasonably challenging to impossible to kill.
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The fight is really easy actually.
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double nine posted:It's worth noting that, should the player choose so, you can antagonise Pisha to the point where combat begins. She'll summon an endless horde of zombies and block off the exits using magical fires until the player or Pisha is dead. Depending on your build the fight can range from reasonably challenging to impossible to kill. You can kill her!? I've been playing this game forever and I have never once managed to kill her.
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I killed Pisha in my last runover of the game. If you do so, there is no masquerade violation and you gain humanity to boot, also Simon will go completely crazy (you can't interact with him afterwards). Other than that, you will get no goodies. Given how she (Pisha) acts, a high-humanity bloodsucker may feel entirely justified in killing her. She's gotta be on a Path of some sort, right?
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Transmetropolitan posted:Given how she (Pisha) acts, a high-humanity bloodsucker may feel entirely justified in killing her. She's gotta be on a Path of some sort, right? Path of Death and the Soul probably. She talks like it and it's a fairly common path for Nagaraja.
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Stroth posted:Path of Death and the Soul probably. She talks like it and it's a fairly common path for Nagaraja. Speaking of which, I was under the impression that Paths were sort of reserved for elders/ancillae/anyone who survived around the 100 year mark, basically long enough to stop being very human at all, but how are the nagaraja fledglings supposed to cope and survive long enough with extremely low humanity to get on a Path? I can't imagine it just comes natural to them.
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OAquinas posted:You have clans, and you have bloodlines. Clans all trace themselves to a 3rd gen progenitor that shares/inspires their characteristics. A ventrue is a ventrue is a ventrue. I loved playing as Samedi. My character, Roger Mortis, had an intelligent orangutan ghoul that was his butler and chauffeur. I don't remember what their unique discipline was but I do remember it being nasty. Looking (and smelling) like a ten day old corpse sucked though. I invested heavily in disguise and perfume.
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double nine posted:Now that we've gotten the apartment, can we start antagonizing Lacroix? He's much more amusing when you stubbornly refuse to do his bidding, especially considering that the only reward we'd get going forward is additional money - which is not a very rare resource. I was planning on staying nice to him in order to show off all the endings. There's going to be a vote as to which ending will be the real ending to Melissa's story, but then I want to show off all the others, including the ~~plus patch Sabbat ending~~
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Deadmeat5150 posted:I don't remember what their unique discipline was but I do remember it being nasty. Thanatosis. Basicly, you make things rot with your power.
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gatz posted:Pretty heavy spoilers: That's all right - and it's your LP after all. I just really enjoy riling him up. Lacroix' voice actor makes it so satisfying getting under his skin...
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I can't remember if this was brought up earlier but can you turn up the brightness on your screenshots a touch? It's really tough to see stuff in the hospital shots.
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Mar 9, 2014 22:56
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I recorded these updates a while ago. I'll turn up the brightness for future updates, but that won't happen for a while since I've got footage in the backlog.
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  Here we are, back at the Skyline apartments. Milligan has his apartment on the first floor, one level up from here. Once he's through, 4 out of the 6 people renting apartments in this place will be dead.  In order to get into the apartment, we had to go through the front door. The vents are locked.  His apartment is pretty standard, but Milligan is no-where to be found on the first floor. Either he's upstairs, or he's not here.  He's not here in his bedroom, or if he is, it's not immediately obvious where. He does, however, have a computer that might give us a clue as to his whereabouts.  Into his email. The password is ectoplasm.  1 posted:<Subject> I <3 Haunted LA I hope Troika isn't making a statement about the quality of most fan letters.  That's the lot of his emails. He does have an upcoming shows section, with two of them listed: show17 posted:Show 17: Hospital Horror. A dilapidated hospital in the downtown area, this place is very spooky. Minimal work required, the place is scary as hell. We'll say it's the ghost of a nurse who feels as if she still has patients to serve. That sure didn't go as planned.  show18 posted:Show 18: Eternal Unrest. There's a cemetery in Hollywood. It's full of actors with more than just dead careers. Again, it shouldn't take much effort on our part.  There's also a photo on his desk:  He's seen too much. We need to find him. There's one last place in the apartment we haven't looked: the closet.  Very predictable.  [Persuade] It was a joke. They're all waiting for you in the hospital basement. Funny guys.... We lost humanity, but gained 2 experience and a masquerade redemption. Yeah, you do that. Milligan runs out of his apartment and back to the hospital. Before we head back to Pisha and see what's become of Milligan, let's go talk to Heather again. Three floors up.  You have any money on you? Umm... here, here, that's all I've got.She gives us $20. That's really all we can do with Heather, maybe she'll have more to say later. Back to the hospital.  She works fast.  Pisha mentioned that she's staying in downtown in order to find some artifacts. Yes. I am searching for two items I have tracked to this area. One I believe may be in one of the local museums; I have not yet searched them all. The other I believe to be in the Giovanni's possession, though I have not confirmed it. Fair enough. Tell me about the item you think is in a museum. A fetish is described in a nineteenth century chronicle of a British platoon's encounter with a local tribe. Soldiers would go missing in the night and be replaced by these fetishes. It may be valuable to my studies.Well that tells us a lot. And the other? It is used to communicate with certain entities otherworldly. It is a tome called the "Voce del Morte". Should you find yourself within the walls of the Giovanni, seize the opportunity and take it, for they will make sure you never have another.If we find these items, we'll bring them to her. But now we have the opportunity to ask her some questions, so we'll take it. I have another question. You seem a bit preoccupied with death. Uh-huh... well, remember that severed arm we picked up from Gimble back in Santa Monica? I brought you a little snack. That's pretty much it. Time to go. It's still revolting. Farewell. Revolting indeed. It's been mentioned in the thread that Pisha is something called a Nagaraja. Stroth posted:She's a Nagaraja. They're sort of Tremere knockoffs. Mages, sought ultimate power, experimented with vampire blood, turned themselves undead accidently. Zeroisanumber posted:Although the Nagaraja ended up with the Necromancy Discipline instead of the Thaumaturgy Discipline. Necromancy, btw, is ridiculously powerful if you're running a more social/political game because it allows you to command wraiths who can invisibly spy on just about any other vampire at any time day or night. So, our next stop would seem to be Grout's mansion. But first we should check in with the other power players, Strauss and the Anarchs, for information.  The first is Strauss. He's a primogen, like Grout, so he has probably delt with Grout before. Strauss might be able to give us some good information on Grout.  I have some questions.Oddly, we can't actually ask him about Grout. What do you know about the Ankaran Sarcophagus?  I do not know, although I must admit that I sense a change in the night air, something subtle and not altogether pleasant. Perhaps the arrival of the sarcophagus is the harbinger of something more dreadful.Can you imagine an anarch speaking like this? Like what? I will say no more.That's all we can get from Strauss. Now to talk to the anarchs, starting with Jack.   It was a slaughter. Whatever was in the sarcophagus killed everyone. No kidding. Well I guess there's got to be somethin' in there, then, huh? The Camarilla's gonna be scrapin' for answers when this gets out. You think it was an ancient then? You believe the legends? Something's going to happen. We just don't know what. Yeah. I smell what you're cookin'. You seen evidence with your own eyes. You're caught up in all of this. I wish I knew where it was leading. So, other than THAT, what else is new?We're going to tell him about our mission to find Grout. Still working for LaCroix... Where ya headed now? To find the missing Malkavian primogen. So a Malk's gone AWOL. If that caught LaCroix off guard, I dunno how he's dodged a hundred years of sunrises.That would make sense if Grout was the only player. But we don't know that, so there could be something more to this. We can't ask Jack about it, though, so we'll just leave. Later. Nines is the only other one to talk to. He'll give us the time of day right now.  We could ask him about LA, or "what we need to know", whatever that is, but how many chances are we going to get to ask Nines about himself? Tell me about yourself. Came to California to get out of the dust bowl during the thirties. Been fightin' this fight since the forties when we kicked out the Cam. I was new to it all back then. Not a whole lotta people from those nights still around. And some of 'em are, they're just not anarchs anymore. Is it worth it? To have to constantly fight to keep LA? You must have learned a lot in that time. Any advice? This bumps our Melee stat up by 1. Time's up. Come around in a few nights if you're still alive. Maybe I'll have time to kill. But I doubt it.The anarchs didn't have much to say, this time. Now it's time to head to Grout's mansion.  Away from here. See you there, next time. gatz fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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I don't have my books in front of me, but I -think- Nagaraja are specifically Euthanatos knock-offs of the Tremere, which is why they deal less with Thaumaturgy and more with Necromancy.
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Mar 9, 2014 23:19
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citybeatnik posted:I don't have my books in front of me, but I -think- Nagaraja are specifically Euthanatos knock-offs of the Tremere, which is why they deal less with Thaumaturgy and more with Necromancy. Yep, although the Nagaraja did their trick quite some time before the Tremere did theirs, I believe. IIRC, with the rise of the Technocracy, vampirism is supposed to be the only way left to pull off immortality without getting Paradoxed.
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Mar 9, 2014 23:34
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ulmont posted:Yep, although the Nagaraja did their trick quite some time before the Tremere did theirs, I believe. IIRC, with the rise of the Technocracy, vampirism is supposed to be the only way left to pull off immortality without getting Paradoxed. You sure one of those eastern books didn't have Chinese immortals? You know, exorcise and eat your wheaties and you live forever? I mean they seemed to ignore a lot of crap when making that stuff...
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Mar 10, 2014 00:04
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xanthan posted:You sure one of those eastern books didn't have Chinese immortals? You know, exorcise and eat your wheaties and you live forever? I mean they seemed to ignore a lot of crap when making that stuff... I think Mage itself pretty blatantly contradicted the whole reason the Tremere went Vampire, to be perfectly honest, if my memory of what a Mage could accomplish with Life 5 is right...
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Mar 10, 2014 00:11
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What happens if you let Simon go when you find him? I'm assuming a Masquerade violation?
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ApplesandOranges posted:What happens if you let Simon go when you find him? I'm assuming a Masquerade violation? Yeah, Masquerade violation + Humanity gain. Or if Melissa had a bit more in Dominate she could have just brain wiped him for a Redemption and a Humanity gain. e: Unless the plus patch removed this. :wesp:
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