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haveblue posted:reminder that the new cosmos starts tonight it's already been spoiled the first episode has a big atheist screed against religion thanks to seth mcfarlane's involvement
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holy crap louis the big bang was just a giant cosmic fart - seth "mac"farlane
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Mar 9, 2014 22:21
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Stymie posted:it's already been spoiled
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Mar 9, 2014 22:24
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theflyingexecutive posted:i just finished it an hour ago, kept waiting for the culture to show up and was a lil disappointed it wasn't there the titular "dark background" is not just the political background of golter but also the millions of light years between thrial and other stars
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Mar 9, 2014 22:29
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Cocoa Crispies posted:the titular "dark background" is not just the political background of golter but also the millions of light years between thrial and other stars Lmao.
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Mar 9, 2014 22:32
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Cocoa Crispies posted:titular it's wrong!! 
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Mar 9, 2014 22:37
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Sham bam bamina! posted:wrong, you used that word wrong die prescriptivist scum
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Mar 9, 2014 22:38
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Sham bam bamina! posted:cool, that sounds both relevant and tonally appropriate yep basically thanks to shitbirds like bill nye, richard dawkins, ricky gervais and the aforementioned seth mcfarlane, science is now synonymous with militant atheism
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Mar 9, 2014 22:43
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90% of 'science' shows are about astronomy and the occasional chemistry topic and it's telling that no one's able to think outside of those boxes
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Mar 9, 2014 22:46
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Stymie posted:yep wait bill nye is a ratheist?
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Mar 9, 2014 22:50
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vOv posted:wait bill nye is a ratheist? he went on that horrible debate show with some chowderhead and kept having to say the most obvious stuff ever to try to keep things sort of in a place where debate could happen but i kinda doubt that's what he's normally like
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Mar 9, 2014 22:54
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Really glad Neil degrasse Tyson is official ambassador of science instead of either of the brians or dick Dawkins or muchio talku
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Mar 9, 2014 23:02
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syscall girl posted:he went on that horrible debate show with some chowderhead and kept having to say the most obvious stuff ever to try to keep things sort of in a place where debate could happen and said "chowderhead" made nye look like a chump because nye is only funny/engaging with a script and good writers whereas the other speaker was well organized, argued cogently and wasn't invested in attacking his opponent neil tyson should also be ashamed for letting atheist garbage into the remade cosmos because carl sagan was definitely not an atheist and knew that holding such a radical religious position only served to alienate
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Mar 9, 2014 23:09
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:Really glad Neil degrasse Tyson is official ambassador of science instead of either of the brians or dick Dawkins or muchio talku kaku is so terrible quote:By midcentury, we may have Brain 2.0, a backup copy of the brain, the byproduct of the ambitious BRAIN project of Pres. Obama and the European Union. Hence, when we die, our Connectome and Genome still survive. So our consciousness does not have to die when we die. And this consciousness, I write, may be placed on laser beams and sent into outer space. This might be the most efficient way to explore the universe, as laser beams carrying our consciousness into outer space.
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Mar 9, 2014 23:14
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Sham bam bamina! posted:wrong, you used that word wrong i'm not the one quoting or responding to stymie
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Mar 9, 2014 23:15
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vOv posted:kaku is so terrible i heard that on science friday and almost crashed my car from laughing so hard
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Mar 9, 2014 23:15
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I tend to leave the science channel on as background noise but when he comes on I have to switch it to something else
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Mar 9, 2014 23:16
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Stymie posted:and said "chowderhead" made nye look like a chump because nye is only funny/engaging with a script and good writers whereas the other speaker was well organized, argued cogently and wasn't invested in attacking his opponent tyson is also not an atheist and is pretty outspoken as far as 'i dont really give a poo poo about atheist dickwaving' but he may not have had much control over it also it hasnt aired and i dont really know if atheist is going to be a big part of it
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Mar 9, 2014 23:16
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ndt is openly atheist but his message about religion isn't negative, it's "don't present an idea as truth unless you have evidence"
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Mar 9, 2014 23:17
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he's denied being an atheist many times tho. i mean even if it's just 'dont lump me in with all these atheist morons' i think it's an important destinction
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Mar 9, 2014 23:18
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i heard that on science friday and almost crashed my car from laughing so hard literally the plot of a greg egan novel
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Mar 9, 2014 23:21
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stymie you blithering idiot, did you not read any sagan at all?
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Mar 9, 2014 23:23
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:he's denied being an atheist many times tho. i mean even if it's just 'dont lump me in with all these atheist morons' i think it's an important destinction you're exactly right, here's him talking about it (and I completely agree with him) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos
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Mar 9, 2014 23:24
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:he's denied being an atheist many times tho. i mean even if it's just 'dont lump me in with all these atheist morons' i think it's an important destinction well that's it. he has repatedly in interviews said that he doesn't want to be called an atheist because he doesn't want to be labeled with the baggage of the arguments, which is the nuanced way of saying yeah i don't believe in god but let's just not talk about that
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Mar 9, 2014 23:28
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i think he's like most atheist scientists i know, in that he doesn't believe in god but doesn't want to be allied with assholes like dawkins, jerry coyne, and pz meyers in the eyes of the public. the easiest way to do that is to not call yourself an atheist, even if your beliefs fall pretty firmly into that camp
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Mar 9, 2014 23:34
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i mean i dont call myself an atheist for the exact same reason so i definitely respect his desire not to be considered an atheist. at the end of the day i really dont care very much at all whether or not god exists and i dont want to spend any time thinking about it or talking about it because 'is there a god? is one of the least interesting questions ever posed
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Mar 9, 2014 23:40
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syscall girl posted:stymie you blithering idiot, did you not read any sagan at all? yes, especially the part where sagan explicitly denied being an atheist you can argue against faith-based reasoning and still not be an atheist, and the modern scientific world could do with some serious self-examination in regards to its relationship to religion, especially atheism
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Mar 9, 2014 23:44
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i mean i dont call myself an atheist for the exact same reason so i definitely respect his desire not to be considered an atheist. at the end of the day i really dont care very much at all whether or not god exists and i dont want to spend any time thinking about it or talking about it because 'is there a god? is one of the least interesting questions ever posed exactly, and the fact of the matter is that i share a lot of beliefs and goals with a lot of religious people: human rights, civil rights, social change, etc. if being a giant dick about my nonbelief causes those people to not want to ally with me on those issues even if we are working towards the same goals, that is a huge problem. trading that for being "right" about an absolutely pointless argument is a poo poo bargain imo also, fwiw, people have this image of dawkins as a strident and dickish atheist, but he's absolutely polite and reasonable compared to coyne and meyers. i'm not saying dawkins isn't a huge rear end in a top hat, mind you, only that there are WAY bigger assholes out there
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Mar 9, 2014 23:47
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coyne in particular seems hellbent on excommunicating anyone who doesn't interpret "atheism" as "be as big an rear end in a top hat to religious people as possible at all times"
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Mar 9, 2014 23:51
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Stymie posted:yep science was always synonymous with militant atheism since religious nutjobs figured out science causes issues with their favorite sci fi universe
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Mar 9, 2014 23:52
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I told some Mormon girls that my wife and I are atheist and now they keep coming back to my house every 6 months or so asking if we need help with any work around the house. I don't think these 20 year old girls could haul away the bathroom vanity on their bikes, but I'll certainly watch.
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Zap! posted:I told some Mormon girls that my wife and I are atheist and now they keep coming back to my house every 6 months or so asking if we need help with any work around the house. see if you can talk ur way into some extra wives
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Mar 10, 2014 00:07
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Zap! posted:I told some Mormon girls that my wife and I are atheist and now they keep coming back to my house every 6 months or so asking if we need help with any work around the house. great now ive got a new fetish
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Mar 10, 2014 00:11
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they need to have the guys who made the pseudo-series made of "the joy of stats", "the science of chance", and "the joy of logic" make more stuff because those were good and not your typical spaceships and/or explosions kind of science TV also i really miss "inside nature's giants", even though dick dorkins was on it for a few minutes each episode, they were genuinely fascinating and i liked the hosts
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Mar 10, 2014 00:23
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if you keep dawkins on the subject of evolutionary biology, he's fine anyway we can argue about the "atheist" label all we want but the important thing to remember is that people are stupid if they hold an absolute opinion on something that cannot be tested scientifically is there a god? who cares.
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Mar 10, 2014 00:36
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pretty excited. having a couple people over to watch cosmos and i'm gonna sous vide some tuna steaks should be good. after that gonna watch brew detective. gonna be a good sunday too bad it's loving hot alread
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Mar 10, 2014 00:49
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lol does nu cosmos really have a section where they talk about how fail god is
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Mar 10, 2014 00:49
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probably not it's on fox
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yes i know that fox and fox news are different
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