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Duzzy Funlop posted:The problem with the threadshitting in Fon Revedhort's (?) CSM thread (and the related callout-threads) was that it drowned out the posts of guys summarizing and reiterating the guy's nazi characteristics and when the ISDs came in, ALL posts disappeared. Two other guys and myself then petitioned and then got a response that the ISDs would be instructed to leave the posts that either summarized or editorialized the things Fon had said in interviews or posted himself in support of his CSM campaign. In my defense half my posts were deleted for being making GBS threads, but the other half were pointing out why he was a horrible shitlord and why he couldn't be CSM.
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During the WH eviction thing, I've podded Gevlon with the help of my fellow ministers and directors in miniluv. I assume I'll be feeling about it for quite some time. Join Goonwaffe, and get into miniluv. It's awesome.
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I just spent another wonderful evening playing with BRAVE: http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=24882 I am looking forward to a veefleet in a few hours, and then passing out. My sleep schedule is all kind of hosed.
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almighty posted:During the WH eviction thing, I've podded Gevlon with the help of my fellow ministers and directors in miniluv. I assume I'll be feeling about it for quite some time. Join Goonwaffe, and get into miniluv. It's awesome. I am jealous I wanted to be there for that but my lovely ISP is giving me a wonderful 0.03 mbps dl / 0.01 mbps ul highspeed internet broadband speeds .
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darth cookie posted:You're in FCON aren't you? Unfortunately I have not yet lost a titian, thus I am unable to join FCON.
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kalstrams posted:What about UAxDEATH (~Ukrainian Death~) who has founded an alliance called Legion of xXDEATHXx with executor corporation Angels of xXDEATHXx and main corporation The xDEATHx Squadron and with a pet/renter alliance Shadow of xXDEATHXx? OTOH most of us think MACTEP is a cool name, but I've heard that other russians think the fake-cyrillic is cheesy.
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Klyith posted:OTOH most of us think MACTEP is a cool name, but I've heard that other russians think the fake-cyrillic is cheesy. It is incredibly cheesy and the actual word written is MASTER. Albeit I have to say that MACTEP = MASTER is quite moderate example. Fun starts with Л, Я and Ж letters when people ridicule out like JI, 9I and my favourite }|{ in games that permit these symbols. Klyith posted:Those are dumb as hell too, but foreigners get a special exemption from mockery based on dumb names. Someone who doesn't speak english as their first language might not realize that xXxDeathShadowxXx is the name a 14-year-old chooses. Most likely so, as xxSomethinGxx stuff was not common in 2005, not for Russians at least.
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Gihon posted:I got on 12.3b worth of expensive-as-gently caress killmails and had what was probably my best day in eve. You guys should come fight more often. Nietzschean posted:I just spent another wonderful evening playing with BRAVE: http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=24882 Why do all of these things happen either before or after I am online But on the upside, does that mean Sendaya actually starts to generate content at least during some times of the day? When I was online last night there weren't even any fleets up, apart from a TEST strat op, so I have spent most of my time away from Sendaya doing looking around and a wee bit of exploration. This, by the way, seems like a great Talwar fit: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=22378487 Did he undock half-way through fitting? He doesn't even have tackle fitted. That aside, are there any Amarr Frigates worth flying apart from the Malediction? I see Purifiers used every now and then as well, but are there any other decent ships? I'm currently training Gallente Frigates 5, and I have Caldari Frigates 3 → 5 as well as Minmatar Frigates 0 → 5 planned. Is there any reason to train Amarr alongside them, or is that kind of superfluous given that I will ultimately be able to fly Crows/Tanarises, as well as Hounds/Nemeses/Manticores?
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Honestly, with that much invested in frigates I'd make sure your support skills are pumped. Adding Amarr to the mix won't do a whole ton for you that can't be covered by what you've got in the pipe, whereas support skills will improve everything.
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People who misuse 'content' in it's noun form because they think it's a buzzword (read: they heard Mittens say it) make me sad.
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At the moment I would say Gallente is the worst of the 4, mainly because of its lackluster offerings with regards to the nemesis. The current frigate skill of choice would be caldari, as it provides the top of the line fleet interceptor, as well as an okay stealth bomber if you love midslots (and who doesn't?) After that I suppose it is a tie between Minmatar and Amarr, as both provide the best stealth bombers available. Honestly, at only eight days a piece, its hard to go wrong with any of the choices.
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Caldari is also good because Harpies are amazing.
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Minmatar > caldari > gallente > filthy slavers (Minmatar bestmatar)
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Deofuta posted:At the moment I would say Gallente is the worst of the 4, mainly because of its lackluster offerings with regards to the nemesis. The current frigate skill of choice would be caldari, as it provides the top of the line fleet interceptor, as well as an okay stealth bomber if you love midslots (and who doesn't?) Ishkur/Enyo/Keres/Comet are all great hulls though.
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And the Taranis, and the Daredevil, and their t1 frigates are pretty decent for what they are as well.
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pugnax posted:Ishkur/Enyo/Keres/Comet are all great hulls though. Agreed, my perspective is definitely skewed towards stealth bombing and interceptors.
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bonewitch posted:Caldari is also good because Harpies are amazing. I prefer Hawks, myself. My rocket-Hawk fires its little Macrosse missile massacres so fast the animation can't keep up. Now I only need to finish Amarr frigates V next week and I can fly another little rocket-buzzsaw. Seriously, I've fallen in love with assault-frigates.
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ChickenWing posted:Honestly, with that much invested in frigates I'd make sure your support skills are pumped. Adding Amarr to the mix won't do a whole ton for you that can't be covered by what you've got in the pipe, whereas support skills will improve everything. Deofuta posted:At the moment I would say Gallente is the worst of the 4, mainly because of its lackluster offerings with regards to the nemesis. The current frigate skill of choice would be caldari, as it provides the top of the line fleet interceptor, as well as an okay stealth bomber if you love midslots (and who doesn't?) bonewitch posted:Caldari is also good because Harpies are amazing. Thank you all for your answers! For what it's worth, the Frigates are far from the only thing in the queue. I recently finished CPU Management 5 and Power Grid Management 5, I have Capacitor Management 4, Evasive Maneuvering 4, Navigation 4 and lots of other things at 3. My longer-term plan is to be able to fly pretty much all Frigate variants, i.e. Bombers, Interceptors, EAS's, Assault Frigates, CovOps. The more immediate goal are CovOps and Bombers, as well as Missiles, followed directly by Weapon Upgrades 5 & AWU 1 → 4, rounding out my drone skills with Drone Interfacing 4 and Combat/Scout Drone Operations 5, then train Cap Managment 5, Repair Systems 5, Mechanics 5, and train up the shield skills to 4-ish, then queue the other T2 frigates and their prerequisites. My (perhaps flawed?) reasoning is that I can, in about 3½ months, hop into any frigate and see what I like most. I'll then go and use that experience to specialise further and train towards the respective T2 cruisers or bigger ships as necessary, though most of my basics will already be covered and I will only have to "round out" the relevant ones, depending on what I fancy most (like Shields 5 or EWAR 5, etc.). You might be able to call it a "jack-of-all-trades"-approach, but since I don't have enough experience yet, I would like to give everything a fair chance.
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Hollow Talk posted:Why do all of these things happen either before or after I am online But on the upside, does that mean Sendaya actually starts to generate content at least during some times of the day? When I was online last night there weren't even any fleets up, apart from a TEST strat op, so I have spent most of my time away from Sendaya doing looking around and a wee bit of exploration. I was playing with BRAVE for several hours, getting owned by lowsec mechanics until I learned them. I will probably be at it for a few days, trying to just find something to do outside of eutz.
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almighty posted:During the WH eviction thing, I've podded Gevlon with the help of my fellow ministers and directors in miniluv. I assume I'll be feeling about it for quite some time. Join Goonwaffe, and get into miniluv. It's awesome. Very nice, I hope you were able to get those corpses so you can link them to Gevlon later when explaining why he's bad at Eve.
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I am considering sticking to this game (currently on my first week) but I am a bit unclear on how one makes isk without doing any of the boring stuff. I quite liked my first taste of PVP, so that would be my main direction... but even with hull reimbursements, that can get costly. How does one make ends meet when one is mainly about PVP?
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EssOEss posted:I am considering sticking to this game (currently on my first week) but I am a bit unclear on how one makes isk without doing any of the boring stuff. I quite liked my first taste of PVP, so that would be my main direction... but even with hull reimbursements, that can get costly. How does one make ends meet when one is mainly about PVP? I think the trick is do boring stuff (salvaging, exploration, ratting, complexes) until you have enough capital to get into some of the less labor-intensive money making stuff (station trading, cycle trading, importing, market manipulation).
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almighty posted:Join Goonwaffe, and get into miniluv. It's awesome. I applied to the sig almost two weeks ago, it's still pending. I feel like that's probably because I don't have enough hisec kills, but solo ganking isn't exactly easy and nobody in sigma/theta ever wants to help me ruin my sec status. I can fit a T2 catalyst if I want to solo gank a retriever, but that's throwing 10-15M at getting maybe 4-6M in module drops. Which I won't be able to pick up for 15 minutes, and by then both wrecks will have been looted. Frank Horrigan fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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EssOEss posted:I am considering sticking to this game (currently on my first week) but I am a bit unclear on how one makes isk without doing any of the boring stuff. I quite liked my first taste of PVP, so that would be my main direction... but even with hull reimbursements, that can get costly. How does one make ends meet when one is mainly about PVP? If you wanna make isk pvping, go highsec, and start suicide ganking. Otherwise scanning down some DED complex sites and completing those can be pretty fun, as you might hit the jackpot opposed to mindless grinding isk.
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Azurrat posted:I applied to the sig almost two weeks ago, it's still pending. If you're worried about making money ganking you have to gank haulers/frigates carrying too much poo poo. Otherwise you just accept it as a cost of business. Either way you need multiple accounts, one or more for scouting/looting and then actual ganking characters.
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n4lrah posted:If you wanna make isk pvping, go highsec, and start suicide ganking. Otherwise scanning down some DED complex sites and completing those can be pretty fun, as you might hit the jackpot opposed to mindless grinding isk. I will admit I never really did high sec ganking, but I do not see how you can make that much profit from it on your own? You gamble at a chance of getting something good by an AFK auto-pilot while blowing up your own ship, and you need a 2nd char there to be able to pick your kill drop. I can see profit doing it with a few people ganking a Freighter/JF because you will get a lot of stuff. But on your own, don't you need to be super lucky?
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deadtear posted:If you're worried about making money ganking you have to gank haulers/frigates carrying too much poo poo. Otherwise you just accept it as a cost of business. Either way you need multiple accounts, one or more for scouting/looting and then actual ganking characters. That's how I've been operating. gently caress around in Dek, scam some people, etc. for money, then when my sec status hits 5 run down to hisec and try to gank some retrievers. It's less for profit and more for fun, but the fact that's cheaper (since you don't have to bring a T2 fit), easier, and more enjoyable with multiple people still applies. Plus with enough people you can go after disproportionately high-value targets like freighters, and begin to actually profit from ganking. I've got a neutral scanning alt that I use to shipscan folks with while I shoot rocks in a Venture. Just orbit around a rock at the same range as your target, then drop a bookmark when you bump them. Dock up, contract bookmark to yourself, switch to gank character and land right on top of them. Then get blown up by CONCORD because I'm retarded and forgot to overheat my guns again. EDIT: VVV Autism, ho! Frank Horrigan fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Gevlon Goblin posted:I always forget that socializing is considered fun. I think listening random guys telling the same jokes for an hour is much worse than just sitting there and watching the HP of a POCO going up/down. Shooting pos is literally more engaging than having to talk to people.
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Freighters will usually carry up to around 1b worth of items. At that point, throwing Brutixes at them becomes unprofitable. However, if you can find 40 people in T1 Catalysts to suicide gank the freighter, you've only invested about 150m for about 500m average loot. Alternatively, you can just have 4 people with 10 accounts each, since isboxer is perfect for suicide ganking (just warp all characters to the freighter with one click, then click again to start shooting simultaneously). This is quite bad isk/hour, but pubbie tears are their own reward and I would expect you to occasionally find a freighter carrying ten billion worth of crap.
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Zerok posted:I will admit I never really did high sec ganking, but I do not see how you can make that much profit from it on your own? You can fit out a murderboat Vexor for somewhere under 20 million, and you have a scanning/hauling alt checking out T1 Industrials as they pass by. When you find a dude autopiloting 300 million worth of random stuff in a quintuple expanded zero-tank Iteron, you shoot them to death, loot the wreck in your alt (after aligning) and then be less dumb than they were bringing it back to Jita. EDIT: Also holy gently caress Gevlon that's taking it to a new level. Voyager I fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Elmnt80 posted:Oh god, and the top of the front page is groon gank fleets in highsec. I love our guys that are in that not quite bitter-vet, but too old to be a newbie stage. Y-you love me, Elmnt? I'm flattered. The day we can kill CONCORD is the day I'll move back to high-sec.
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Zerok posted:I will admit I never really did high sec ganking, but I do not see how you can make that much profit from it on your own? You scan poo poo, then shoot it, and then loot it. We have an ENL-I guy who is hilariously prolific at it. http://miniluv.apoff.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6116 http://miniluv.apoff.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6213 http://miniluv.apoff.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6121 http://miniluv.apoff.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6227 http://miniluv.apoff.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6359 I would say he finds something worth ganking every 90minutes or so over time. Plenty of other people do similar. You can make billions doing it, and all of the ISK is coming from highsec residents who have spent months making it, and they cry loudly when they do. quote:That's how I've been operating. gently caress around in Dek, scam some people, etc. for money, then when my sec status hits 5 run down to hisec and try to gank some retrievers. AFAIK staying between -2 and +2 is most efficient in regards to sec status, going above 4 in particular gives hard diminishing returns, as you will gain 0.01 per tick or something, and lose 0.3 per aggression, more for a kill. You lose less in a band that is around 0, and gain more per tick ratting. +5 might be useful in a "biggest buffer before Burn Jita" kind of way, but not in general. For disclaimer purposes: I haven't looked at the math on this in a while.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:The day we can kill CONCORD is the day I'll move back to high-sec. That day has been long since gone.
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Kjep64 posted:Very nice, I hope you were able to get those corpses so you can link them to Gevlon later when explaining why he's bad at Eve. Warr grabbed them for a series of broadcasts. Azurrat posted:I applied to the sig almost two weeks ago, it's still pending. It's okay, the way laid out in the miniluv recruitment thread is not the only way to get accepted, there are other Empire OPs that you can participate in to fulfill the criteria of being accepted. Ping me in Jabber when you are on, or ask deadtear for pointers. He is quite the veteran, especially when it comes to Empire shenanigans. Also, powers too (just like Warr) is a director that can provide guidance. Azuth0667 posted:I am jealous I wanted to be there for that but my lovely ISP is giving me a wonderful 0.03 mbps dl / 0.01 mbps ul highspeed internet broadband speeds . I hope you get that sorted out and come spread the love with us! Although staring at a wormhole for a prolonged period was a little mind numbing, at the end catching Gevlon pants down was quite the reward. almighty fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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This is a little late but sentinel isn't a bad reason to train amarr frigates if you want to piss on every other frigate hull in the game. That thing is terrifying for the cost.
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almighty posted:During the WH eviction thing, I've podded Gevlon with the help of my fellow ministers and directors in miniluv. I assume I'll be feeling about it for quite some time. Join Goonwaffe, and get into miniluv. It's awesome. Are those bomberless bombers? Beautiful.
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Nurge posted:This is a little late but sentinel isn't a bad reason to train amarr frigates if you want to piss on every other frigate hull in the game. That thing is terrifying for the cost. There's no way that thing is going to survive un-nerfed. Get in while the getting's good.
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I don't know why, but Gevlons "updates" are hilarious. http://pastebin.com/SESwf3q5 namely quote:Trolls have been busy commenting “you didn’t take a single POCO”, ignoring that in the first phase of Sov wars there isn’t significant Sov movement. In the Fountain war CFC were actually losing the Sov they got from metagaming Sort Dragon. Then the resistance breaks over losses, the pilots on one side no longer fleet up or an ally figures out that Alliance Tournament is more interesting and the Sov is mopped up fast. quote:This was a testing POCO, this is why I didn’t brag about it earlier. It came with our new POCO war doctrine replacing the large reinforcing fleets. We used to reinforce dozens of POCOs. Then Goons formed up along with their RvB pets and saved them. They had the numbers. Our new doctrine is to reinforce 1-2 POCOs a day, not more. That can literally be done by a few guys while AFK. Now Goons and pets have two options: quote:It’s like in Fountain when the Sov was still all TEST, but PL already left and Rokh fleets had more Rifters than battleships. Yes, the mopping up is still ahead of us. And yes, they will have their 6VDT-like last stand in Perimiter. This guy clearly plays a different game than the rest of us.
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The best part is the screenshot. He's hitting GSF's wallet where it really hurts.
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I don't know man, it sounds he's got us by the balls.
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