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TwoPair posted:
Wow! Those are fantastic. Great job! I wish I had the money to buy any of them  EDIT: And now I have new avatar!  Thanks mysterious benefactor 
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So, in the latest Avengers Assemble Hawkeye and Hulk encounter the Mojo-Verse. Mojo just doesn't have the insanity of the old X-Men cartoon version. I really wish they'd go all out and hire Paul Heyman to voice Mojo.
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Mar 11, 2014 08:42
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PicklePants posted:I really wish they'd go all out and hire Paul Heyman to voice Mojo. Get me Mojo Heyman screaming a character's name like Brock Lesnar an I'll never ask for anything again.
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Mar 11, 2014 09:18
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Was Longshot in the episode? He was (for some reason) my favorite X-man.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:03
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KungFu Grip posted:Get me Mojo Heyman screaming a character's name like Brock Lesnar an I'll never ask for anything again. "Mister Captain America! As the rrrepresentative of BRRROCK LESNAR, I'm warning you that battling my BEAST will be the end of your so-called AVENGERS, LIVE ON PAY PER VIEW!" Yes, the greatest threat the Avengers could face on Mojo TV is Brock Lesnar. 
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Mar 11, 2014 21:31
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Relevant: http://www.newsarama.com/20535-cartoon-network-2014-2015-schedule-reveals-beware-the-batman-cancelled-no-new-dc-shows.html CN lineup for 2014-2015 doesn't have Beware the Batman or any new DC show.
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Mar 11, 2014 21:35
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Man, all I want is a show about superheroes that isn't 100% comedy and has an interesting overarching plotline and engaging character-driven stories. Is that too much to ask for? 
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Mar 11, 2014 21:40
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Fuego Fish posted:Man, all I want is a show about superheroes that isn't 100% comedy and has an interesting overarching plotline and engaging character-driven stories. Is that too much to ask for?
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Mar 11, 2014 21:45
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Fuego Fish posted:Man, all I want is a show about superheroes that isn't 100% comedy and has an interesting overarching plotline and engaging character-driven stories. Is that too much to ask for? This is exactly what Clone Wars was. Check out the unaired season that they just put up on Netflix the other day, it's pretty good. The same dudes are making a new show that's out later this year.
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Mar 11, 2014 22:01
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Hakkesshu posted:This is exactly what Clone Wars was. Check out the unaired season that they just put up on Netflix the other day, it's pretty good. The same dudes are making a new show that's out later this year. Oh poo poo its up?! Thanks for the heads up!
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Mar 11, 2014 22:03
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Hakkesshu posted:This is exactly what Clone Wars was. Check out the unaired season that they just put up on Netflix the other day, it's pretty good. The same dudes are making a new show that's out later this year. I might give it a look, but honestly the Star Wars prequel universe is kind of a turn-off, regardless of the quality of the show itself.
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Mar 11, 2014 22:13
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Fuego Fish posted:I might give it a look, but honestly the Star Wars prequel universe is kind of a turn-off, regardless of the quality of the show itself. It does more interesting things with the universe than the prequels did, I'll say that much. There are some pretty bad episodes sprinkled throughout, but when it's good it's real good. Regardless, it's a show about superheroes that features engaging, character-driven arcs and is pretty loving brutal for a children's show, so I don't think you're gonna find a better alternative 
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Mar 11, 2014 22:22
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Fuego Fish posted:Man, all I want is a show about superheroes that isn't 100% comedy and has an interesting overarching plotline and engaging character-driven stories. Is that too much to ask for? Well, the dude that's been in charge of CN got fired, so there's hope for the next upfront to include some more serious action superhero stuff. If the new dude goes "lets not try live action comedy for the nth time and lets fill up these superhero gaps"
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Mar 11, 2014 22:31
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Hakkesshu posted:It does more interesting things with the universe than the prequels did, I'll say that much. There are some pretty bad episodes sprinkled throughout, but when it's good it's real good. I'm enjoying Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which is about as superheroes as Star Wars. So I might give Clone Wars a go, or possibly wait and see about this new show that's coming out.
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Mar 11, 2014 22:33
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Kingtheninja posted:Was Longshot in the episode? He was (for some reason) my favorite X-man. He was not. Which is a shame, because there haven't been any really good animated mullets on TV since the last time Longshot was on the X-Men cartoon, or the Iron Man cartoon. And if they wanted Brock Lesnar to do a voice, Heyman-Mojo could have always swiped up StrongGuy for his arena/series/show. Or Spiderman's Rhino so we could hear the screeching, "GORE GORE GORE!" Edit: I'm thinking about this fantasy casting way too much now. PicklePants fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Mar 11, 2014 |
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Mar 11, 2014 22:34
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Yeah there's no way any cartoon character is going to beat 90's Iron Man's Iron Mullet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBbnT-cIDVM Man it's terrible how Disney/Loeb/Whomever is to blame has just aggressively and thoroughly driven all of the Marvel cartoons the exact same level of mediocrity. They're not as The Room terribad as the first seasons of the 90s Iron Man and Fantastic Four, nor as good as the Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men, and Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes series that preceded them. They're just... there. Hakkesshu posted:This is exactly what Clone Wars was. Check out the unaired season that they just put up on Netflix the other day, it's pretty good. The same dudes are making a new show that's out later this year. Fuego Fish posted:I might give it a look, but honestly the Star Wars prequel universe is kind of a turn-off, regardless of the quality of the show itself. *Sees a bunch of smurf-like creatures riding a dragon-like creature, joyfully riding through the sky* "Great. It's gonna be another one of those planets." Fuego Fish posted:I'm enjoying Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which is about as superheroes as Star Wars. So I might give Clone Wars a go, or possibly wait and see about this new show that's coming out.
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Mar 12, 2014 09:40
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The jump of quality between seasons 1 and 2 of the Iron Man and FF cartoons has always astounded me. Was it a different team that took over?
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Mar 16, 2014 04:03
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Vintimus Prime posted:The jump of quality between seasons 1 and 2 of the Iron Man and FF cartoons has always astounded me. Was it a different team that took over?
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Mar 16, 2014 14:29
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Pity that Marvel aren't doing the same thing now, but I guess it's not like they have any competition from DC to compare themselves to anymore. Damnit, CN, what evils hath thou wrought in thy quest for toy commercials?
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Mar 16, 2014 15:08
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Was there even any improvement to Avengers Assemble? I watched part of the first episode and forgot about it.
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Mar 16, 2014 15:24
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Fuego Fish posted:Pity that Marvel aren't doing the same thing now, but I guess it's not like they have any competition from DC to compare themselves to anymore. Damnit, CN, what evils hath thou wrought in thy quest for toy commercials? So downhill that the management has been completely overhauled, actually.
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Mar 16, 2014 15:31
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Speaking of which, I really hope Wacker stays for the longterm. I think Marvel unfortunately needs to ride out their current series before things get actually get better. I just hope Steve is around that long that we can actually see his influence. Despite being a huge turd, he was really one of Marvel's best editors. If anyone can really get us to the true Marvel Animated Universe we've always dreamed of, it's him.
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Dacap posted:Was there even any improvement to Avengers Assemble? I watched part of the first episode and forgot about it. Let me answer your question with the following:  In case that's too subtle for you, the answer is no. The animation varies between "we spent the entire episode's budget on this five-second sequence of Thor hitting someone" and "more Powerpoint transitions? oh sir you are spoiling us", the plotlines are straight out of the 1980s playbook for lovely villain schemes ending in a moral lesson that gets beaten over the audience's head, and the characters remain unlikeable parodies with no resemblance to their movie counterparts. Here's a bonus badly-animated gif featuring the toyetic properties of "Agents of SMASH": 
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Mar 16, 2014 16:30
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Yeah the scripts are straight from the 80's/Early 90's in terms of having some kind of moral in every episode and have very little happen. There is a very mild story about the Cabal going on but they have made it completely boring and uninteresting. Red Skull is basically The Shredder and MODOK is practically Bebop/Rocksteady.
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Mar 16, 2014 18:04
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That's too bad. EMH was really good at one point and was probably the closest we'll ever get to a Marvel equivalent of JLU
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Mar 16, 2014 18:21
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Jeph Loeb eats the souls of good media to fuel his nightmarish existence.
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Mar 16, 2014 18:25
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Is that Falcon back there being shunned by the rest of the team?
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Mar 16, 2014 18:31
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The animation in those gifs is straight out of the 60s Iron Man and Thor cartoons.
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Mar 16, 2014 18:56
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They wish they could hold a candle to the majesty of the 60's cartoons. Never seen a single episode, but I like the idea of Agents of S.M.A.S.H. Kind of reminds me of Nina Turtles, or at least Street Sharks. Plus, there's always room for Devil Dinosaur.
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Mar 16, 2014 20:30
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Speaking of, they should totally make a Nextwave cartoon. It already has a themesong after all.
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Mar 16, 2014 20:54
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ToastyPotato posted:Yeah the scripts are straight from the 80's/Early 90's in terms of having some kind of moral in every episode and have very little happen. There is a very mild story about the Cabal going on but they have made it completely boring and uninteresting. Red Skull is basically The Shredder and MODOK is practically Bebop/Rocksteady. The actual Marvel cartoon for baby children, Super Hero Super Squad, has stronger arcs than the new cartoons. It's mind boggling.
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horsepeen posted:Is that Falcon back there being shunned by the rest of the team? They were desperate to keep the composition of the shot from the movie, so they completely changed the structure of the restaurant to add in a row of booths so that the Falcon wouldn't spoil the shot. Except they have Hulk there instead of Banner, so the shot's already different considering the obvious difference in size between the two. The whole "we had to make things more like the movies, so kids wouldn't get confused" is pretty much the biggest line of bullshit that's ever been spun. Any connection there is to the movies is purely superficial and doesn't hold up under the slightest scrutiny. I could go on about it, but I think I've made that point often enough. But I guess when it's the only game in town, kids can't really be picky.
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Mar 16, 2014 22:26
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In possibly hopeful news, the guy who was running Cartoon Network into the ground for years is leaving. http://www.cartoonbrew.com/business/goodbye-to-stu-snyder-the-man-who-tried-to-make-cartoon-network-cartoon-less-96952.html I'm hoping this will allow DC to actually get a chance to produce good animated shows which don't get strangled in the crib like what happened to Green Lantern or Beware the Batman.
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Mar 16, 2014 22:33
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The Question IRL posted:In possibly hopeful news, the guy who was running Cartoon Network into the ground for years is leaving. What happened to Green Lantern/Young Justice/BTB was a massive clusterfuck but I don't think things would have gone any differently had there been a different exec in charge. Reportedly, the CG animation for GL and BTB was prohibitively expensive, and the network relied on extra merchandising to make up for the cost. Green Lantern as a franchise got brutally hosed by the movie's failure, apparently no store wanted to stock the figures after having a surplus of Ryan Reynolds figures that wouldn't sell. There's also Mattel's shoddy products and internal "no girls allowed" policy that hurt Young Justice, which also probably wasn't bringing in enough ad revenue alone to justify a third season. IMO, Beware the Batman was dead on arrival and I don't blame the network for cancelling it. The animation looked like an unfinished PS2 cutscene and it brought almost nothing to the table, other than filling WBA's "we need a Batman show" quota. In the end, I blame the idiots behind the GL movie and WBA, for making the colossally stupid mistake of using CG animation. Speaking of lovely animation, does anyone have the Avengers gif that's literally just still images of the characters moving from side to side?
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Clone Wars did fine being CG. It really only got screwed when Disney bought Star Wars and then the last season ended up having been completed with no where to air. And Disney is pumping out a new CG series from the same people (I think it is the same people?) DC properties are just mismanaged period. Time Warner in general couldn't give any less fucks about the stuff they are putting out, they are just looking at spreadsheets and graphs at this point, that much is clear.
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Mar 16, 2014 23:35
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At least Clone Wars' final season is up on Netflix. Also, here's the gif, HorseRenoir 
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Mar 16, 2014 23:43
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ToastyPotato posted:Clone Wars did fine being CG. It really only got screwed when Disney bought Star Wars and then the last season ended up having been completed with no where to air. And Disney is pumping out a new CG series from the same people (I think it is the same people?) George Lucas has some really deep pockets. I doubt any other studio would be able to get away with such a high budget.
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Mar 16, 2014 23:45
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Well, at least we can give them money for a good show in HD now, since it seems that they're finally releasing The Spectacular Spider-Man on Blu-Ray in a complete set.
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ToastyPotato posted:Clone Wars did fine being CG. It really only got screwed when Disney bought Star Wars and then the last season ended up having been completed with no where to air. And Disney is pumping out a new CG series from the same people (I think it is the same people?) It's mostly the same crew making Rebels, with the main addition being Greg Weissman of Gargoyles, Spectacular Spidey and YJ.
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Gaz-L posted:It's mostly the same crew making Rebels, with the main addition being Greg Weissman of Gargoyles, Spectacular Spidey and YJ. So it'll just last two seasons with the bad guys winning, then?
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