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Crowley posted:We do however get PTO for it. Right now my coworker has 500 hours stashed, I'm sitting at 100 hours, and HR is going bonkers because accumulated PTO is counted as a debt in finance (and rightfully so). Coworker made a deal to only work four-day weeks until his hours are gone, but I'm just going to sit on mine. We have a mutual 3-month-notice clause in our contracts, and I like to be able to quit on shorter notice if I want to.
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johnduhart posted:A KACE appliance backdoor came in! In that other IT thread but you probably read it anyway, Sirotan posted:
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DO NOT BUY A KACE DEVICE
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All hail Sirotan, the 13th prophet*! *And seal
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Collateral Damage posted:Don't know how it works in other countries, but here if you have PTO remaining when you quit your employer is legally required to pay you for that time. Indeed, and the employer is forced to have cash on hand to be able to pay everyone their PTO, which is why a lot of places have rather stringent limits on how much you can accumulate(2 weeks, so 80 hours, is pretty common as a max).
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rolleyes posted:All hail Sirotan, the 13th prophet*! If it means I can spare at least one of you from my fate, I will continue* to carry this burden of supporting a KACE device and dealing with its incompetent technicians. Please, learn from my story. *For possibly not much longer, we've refused to pay our support contract until they can get their poo poo together with our boxes/support issues, and are now 2 months past the deadline.
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Mar 11, 2014 16:41
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Lightning Jim posted:That looks fun; glad I'm not working in KACE. One of my engineers apparently has some sales engineers that have leeched onto him. They invited him to a sales confcall and he rejected the request. They had the gall to yell at our boss about it. "He's always helped before, why not now?" When you give a mouse a cookie... (*And yes, boss told this sales guy to go away.)
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Lightning Jim posted:That looks fun; glad I'm not working in KACE. This happens to me so often its actually quite annoying and i've just started shoving them back, after telling the client to tell sales exactly what they need and where sales need to look to get their info, as I don't have access. Other thing that's happening, we've got two new starters. One of them has been told i'm the person to call if they want to get something done on the spot. Thanks guys, I totally need an extra newbie clinging onto me for dear life while I work.
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Mar 11, 2014 17:27
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Awww, I missed PTO Pileup time. I guess it'll accrue...  Seriously, we can legit accrue 150% of max PTO here. BUT! When they switched from a simple vacation/sick split to PTO/ESL (because back in 2006-7 they polled the employees, who thought it sounded good  - they just did the changeover about 18 months ago), your "excess" sick time got converted to PTO. And if you were near-max anyway, well...Oh, and since they decided to finally get electronic medical records implemented, a whole shitload of vacation blackouts happened, and bla bla bla HEY LET'S KEEP ACCRUAL GOING EVEN IF YOU'RE AT MAX AND NOT BLACKED OUT  . (So, after several "use your time or lose it!" deadlines, none of which were real, I sit here with a 150% max of 336.18 hours, actual PTO of 447.34 - and still accruing 8 hours every payday.  And this is on top of taking something like 4.5 *weeks* off over four months, late last year, to try and get to within 20 or so of that 150% by the year-end drop-dead date. (Not quite dead yet, of course.)(poo poo kept accruing, too, which I'd *thought* was finally turned off before I started taking time.)But my supervisor had ~IDEAS~.  Hey, you have a lot of PTO built up, you need to use it! Yeah, but there's no one trained to cover me, remember? Oh, we'll get everyone trained.* Why don't you take off one day every week? So, my hundreds of hours would go down by eight every payday? Accrual is still happening. Also, anyone covering me won't be covering *their* job. Or you could come in an hour later and leave an hour earlier every day! OK, twelve hours per pay-period. By the way, that first hour is when all the time-dependent stuff needs to be done, and the last hour is when I catch up on the desperate last-minute stuff. So, coverage still. Just take a week off every month, we'll be fine! <migraine salute>* - "training" was each person who would cover for me getting two days max following me around; they all lost at least a couple hours, because they had to cover lunches for other folks. Oh, and one had a split of five days total between the two, due to weekend and other coverage. One was there for maybe five hours the first day, and about three the next, due to doctor's appointments on top of her coverage. Week One happened, and upon return, I was still trying to unfuck my office four hours into the day. We will not speak of just piling up work for me to do when I returned, nor of the poo poo I left to be done (labelled as such) popping up in the loving RECYCLE BIN. (Four days of ignoring it capped with "I couldn't read the note, so I thought it was recycle" on Friday.  )New deadline is end-of-fiscal year, 27 June (payday). I am taking off a full week in May, so I'll not be accr.. no, I'll gain three more loving days *after* that week is taken into account.  Dear payroll: let me *cash out* some of this. Give me my overage in a check that I can use to pay bills and buy poo poo. Hell, give me six weeks of it, I'll be under 150% finally. WHO WILL RID ME OF THIS TURBULENT ACCRUAL? Oh well. I suppose I can always drop my notice on 13 June and listen to all the cardiac events, right? tl;dr PTO Hoarders Edition
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I swear to god, I read this 3 full times and all I got from it was "Zamboni Apocalypse has a lot of PTO"?
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Mar 11, 2014 18:53
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We don't get PTO at my job. We get vacation and that's it. 2 weeks before 5 years, 3 weeks from 5-15 years, 4 weeks from 15-25 years then 5 weeks.
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Mar 11, 2014 18:56
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nexxai posted:I swear to god, I read this 3 full times and all I got from it was "Zamboni Apocalypse has a lot of PTO"? Don't worry I though the same thing. I get the same thoughts when I read Dilbert As gently caress's posts. How someone can say so much but not say anything that makes sense I do not know.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:01
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So you're accruing paid time off faster than you can use it, and...?
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Mar 11, 2014 19:13
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We get two weeks here for the first five years, and eight personal days. I think it maxes out at five weeks after fifteen years. Personal days stay the same.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:44
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I have a good amount of PTO that I will never, ever get to use because I do not one but two jobs that no one else here can do with no replacement coming for a while. :[ I don't want to stick around long enough to use it, I wish they would just pay me for it :[
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Mar 11, 2014 20:47
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AlternateAccount posted:I have a good amount of PTO that I will never, ever get to use because I do not one but two jobs that no one else here can do with no replacement coming for a while. :[ This is management's problem, not yours. Book your time off and take it.
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Mar 11, 2014 20:49
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AlternateAccount posted:I have a good amount of PTO that I will never, ever get to use because I do not one but two jobs that no one else here can do with no replacement coming for a while. :[ Do you not use it because you don't feel like you can or do you not use it because you submit requests for PTO that are summarily rejected every time?
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AlternateAccount posted:I have a good amount of PTO that I will never, ever get to use because I do not one but two jobs that no one else here can do with no replacement coming for a while. :[ I don't understand this line of thinking. It's not your fault that no one else can do your job. It's your PTO time, you've earned it, use it! Whatever company you work for will not burn down if you take a few weeks off.
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antisodachrist posted:We get two weeks here for the first five years, and eight personal days. I think it maxes out at five weeks after fifteen years. Personal days stay the same. 
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I started with a week of vacation time and one day extra per month I work. I have 3 weeks accrued right now.
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A stack of tickets didn't come in... I just got a call from a recruiter with a job opportunity "working in a dynamic environment on mission critical systems with a team of motivated individuals". It turns out I'd be supporting application servers in a hospital. Even if I hadn't just gotten a new job offer last week, I could not hang up hard enough or run away fast enough. I've seen enough bullshit tickets in this thread about working for prima donna doctors and/or working in healthcare. So yeah, thanks thread!
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My company won't let us accrue PTO. We get 2 weeks to start, 3 weeks after 5 years (used to be 2 years before transition), 5 personal/sick days, and our regular banked days that we're not allowed to cash out (except for 1 day which we can by law since we need coverage on that day). This is what I get for working for an American company in Canada, really lovely options  At least we have good medical Migishu fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Mar 11, 2014 |
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Mar 11, 2014 21:55
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AlternateAccount posted:I have a good amount of PTO that I will never, ever get to use because I do not one but two jobs that no one else here can do with no replacement coming for a while. :[ So many posters in this thread who would fail the bus test. If you seriously can't take your time off you are owed then something is seriously wrong. If your company can't handle a brief scheduled period with you away, what happens if something comes out of the blue?
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I'm so drat happy my work doesn't bother with tracking that. Our official PTO policy is "take the time you need" and we're expected to work out coverage like grown adults. I've never, not once, had to argue about taking time off.
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I'm currently sitting around the house, scratching my testicles for a week as if I don't take it by the month-end, I lose it. Incidentally, one of my best investmnets of the year was to buy a personal phone, so I can leave the work phone on a shelf. Even the benefits of completely-free calls are outweighed by my inability to stop myself from reading work-related emails whenever they come in.
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ConfusedUs posted:I'm so drat happy my work doesn't bother with tracking that. Our official PTO policy is "take the time you need" and we're expected to work out coverage like grown adults. I would hate that system. Seems too stacked in the employers favor.
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Sickening posted:I would hate that system. Seems too stacked in the employers favor. Only if the management philosophy is to try to stop you from taking the time. We're encouraged.
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Sickening posted:I would hate that system. Seems too stacked in the employers favor. I'm kind of with you. It seems like the diet of thing which might work well for a small company but I don't see how it scales, and it'd be very easy for it to all start getting political and cliquey in larger companies. Edit: Basically the fundamental flaw is the "treating people like grown adults" bit. That breaks easily in large companies.
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Mar 11, 2014 23:54
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 My files are printing slowly! Oh yeah?
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Agrikk posted:A stack of tickets didn't come in... Wise choice. I am one of those in Healthcare IT and the applications people get poo poo on like crazy.
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Mar 11, 2014 23:57
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Swink posted:
PostScript driver?
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Sirotan posted:If it means I can spare at least one of you from my fate, I will continue* to carry this burden of supporting a KACE device and dealing with its incompetent technicians. I work a few rows down from the  KACE team and we are constantly getting team-wide emails about how amazing they are. I think most of the customers appreciate that they're doing the best they can with the tools they have. If I ever have to start taking KACE overflow it will probably be time to 
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skooky posted:I work a few rows down from the FUN. I've thankfully heard nothing about the KACE team at our site. Saw this on the Not Always Right site. Fits with this thread to a T: http://notalwaysright.com/calling-about-his-c-pee-yew/35973 quote:Me: “Welcome to the [Company] support desk. You’re speaking to [My Name]. How can I help?”
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Server toilet.contoso.local cannot flush transaction logs. Please contact your administrator.
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skooma512 posted:Wise choice. I am one of those in Healthcare IT and the applications people get poo poo on like crazy. I really love that the posters in this thread have scared people off so thoroughly from healthcare IT. It's such an utter shitshow that if I didn't have to move thousands of miles for another job I'd be long gone from the hospital I work at. Just today we had the vendor that supports our PACS system make a number of changes without warning us. One of which disabled the computers that view images in three locations including our ED's trauma room. It thankfully was not in use at the time but
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Varkk posted:So many posters in this thread who would fail the bus test. I used to feel that way "Everything will catch fire if I leave for a day or two, etc" after seeing other people get burned out I now gladly take my PTO. I have F*ck It Fridays with one of my friends. When possible we alternate fridays off. Remember kids. In any job, you can always get more money but you cannot get back your time. I'm trying to gently tell this to my girlfriend who is in an extremely high stress job and it's tearing her apart and killing her. If you have PTO use it. It's what it is for. Give a week or two notice for PTO and let your management sort that poo poo out. poo poo will either work out or not. It's not your problem. Work never changes... You are worthless to your family, friends and coworkers of you are and angry burned out person.
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GreenNight posted:That's when you start to blame everything on XP. Mouse stopped working? XP. Bathrooms flooded? XP. Sorry boss. I don't know how all of the Win xp machines all suddenly died from water damage. 
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Rip out a few caps a week on XP machines. I don't know why these are failing boss, maybe because they're a decade old.
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GreenNight posted:Rip out a few caps a week on XP machines. I don't know why these are failing boss, maybe because they're a decade old. Dr. Kevork-turing
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spog posted:I'm currently sitting around the house, scratching my testicles for a week as if I don't take it by the month-end, I lose it. My job, while I love it, pestered me for a couple weeks about having my personal cell along with my work cell. My response was "I like to keep my work life and personal life separate, thanks." Nobody bugged me about it afterward, and if any job ever has expected (or ever will expect) me to work during vacation time, they'll drat well reimburse that time back to me. Otherwise, gently caress off because it's called vacation for a reason.
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