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Korak posted:Someone on the reddit mtg site posted a ridiculous list that wins with Codex Shredder and it actually is a decent UW deck. What is better than saying you went 4-0 with Codex Shredder beatdown? I don't know about a reddit list, but the U/W codex shredder list i know is called The Fun Police. And it is seriously the most unfun deck to play against. It is built to continually cycle your deck forcing a time out. gently caress that deck.
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re: Netdeck talk Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack in the day, there was one website. I mean, there were a lot of websites, but there was only one magic website. The Dojo. This site changed the game, since now people had a place to find good decks, good deck ideas and articles that would help them play. Much like today, some people would find a deck they liked (possibly due to the fact that it won a tournament or a pro player made it) and copy it from the site. Thus began the derogatory term of 'net deck.' People used to look down upon it, much like other civil rights issues of our times. Now that it is perfectly acceptable to find a deck on the internet and use it to whichever means you wish, those angry old guys are relegated to the same place your completely racist uncle, who refuses to move along with the rest of the world, are kept. TL;DR - Get off my lawn, netdecks!
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Mar 12, 2014 03:25
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En Fuego posted:TL;DR - Get off my lawn, netdecks! That's not true. Lots of people are just sore losers but something was lost when the internet made solving formats an incredibly fast and efficient process. I know plenty of people who don't play now because they feel the game leaves little space for personal expression.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:29
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Stinky Pit posted:That's not true. Lots of people are just sore losers but something was lost when the internet made solving formats an incredibly fast and efficient process. I know plenty of people who don't play now because they feel the game leaves little space for personal expression. This is actually why I love limited. There is so much more deck variation going on and you have a lot of room to build for yourself. Granted, there's still some limitations in there, but eh, given some time and practice, it's really easy to pick up and do whatever you want in a draft or sealed set of games.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:35
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Personally, I love sealed best because it most closely resembles both Richard Garfield's original vision of the game and what it was like first playing the game with my buds in '93. Everyone gets a handful of packs and you make the best of it. That on top of the regular arguments for limited being the One True Format. It's a shame that the only opportunities I get to play it are pre-releases.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:45
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AlternateNu posted:I don't know about a reddit list, but the U/W codex shredder list i know is called The Fun Police. And it is seriously the most unfun deck to play against. It is built to continually cycle your deck forcing a time out. Honestly, I loved playing against this sort of control deck. If it goes to time, then it's usually because you kept playing for 20 minutes after you had already lost.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:51
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AlternateNu posted:I don't know about a reddit list, but the U/W codex shredder list i know is called The Fun Police. And it is seriously the most unfun deck to play against. It is built to continually cycle your deck forcing a time out. Someone at my LGS is building this. It's the same guy that I went to turns with on game one with two elspeth emblems and aetherling out.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:54
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Stinky Pit posted:That's not true. Lots of people are just sore losers but something was lost when the internet made solving formats an incredibly fast and efficient process. I know plenty of people who don't play now because they feel the game leaves little space for personal expression. This is my problem with netdecking. People just copy the exact list without understanding why each card is in the deck. I've always felt that building a deck takes at least as much skill as playing one. Mine probably aren't going to win any Pro Tours or anything, but they win more often than not against some pretty good players. I've netdecked some of my decks that I play for fun, but I always put my own spin on them. The only exception was THS game day where I suddenly found out I had off for it the day before and didn't have a deck, so I netdecked Esper Control because I had the cards. It was miserable. 3 control mirrors who all somehow had Slaughter Games and 2 rounds of mana screw. And it was still more fun than stomping 3 rounds of GR monsters and losing to some boring control deck because they always find their Thoughtseizes and mine never show up, or get Thoughtseized turn 0. Those are almost the only 2 matches I've played over the past 3 FNMs. My store actually does have a surprisingly good Modern group to make up for the terrible Standard people; there's 2 Tron people, one of who also tries to play Twin, but aside from that it's all original, or at least original versions of a more common deck.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:03
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AlternateNu posted:I don't know about a reddit list, but the U/W codex shredder list i know is called The Fun Police. And it is seriously the most unfun deck to play against. It is built to continually cycle your deck forcing a time out. The original Cuneo Codex Shredder deck could kill you with Haunted Plate Mail, and I think it had some Aetherlings. Anyone who made a shittier version was missing the point, I think.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:12
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I can't use a creature tap ability to change a land type as an interrupt, can I? Tapping lands happens faster than instant speed if I recall?
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OssiansFolly posted:I can't use a creature tap ability to change a land type as an interrupt, can I? Tapping lands happens faster than instant speed if I recall? Like if your opponent wants to tap a Mountain but you want to turn it into an Island? Nope. Best time to do that would be on his upkeep when he probably can't use the mana anyway. Edit: Mana Abilities don't use the stack. They just happen. This is true of anything, not just lands. Elvish Mystic, for example. The only exception is Planeswalker abilities, which aren't mana abilities because *reasons* Edit 2: Used the right elf. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 04:21
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Someone asked Chris Pikula to sign his invitational card: Shoulda done your research buddy!
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Mar 12, 2014 04:21
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Someone asked Chris Pikula to sign his invitational card: That someone was Eric Klug, who definitely did his research.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:26
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suicidesteve posted:Like if your opponent wants to tap a Mountain but you want to turn it into an Island? Nope. Best time to do that would be on his upkeep when he probably can't use the mana anyway. Ok. Thanks. (Building a Wizard Pauper EDH deck and can't figure out why a deck I am looking at is using Reef Shaman and Dream Thrush)
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Mar 12, 2014 04:27
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OssiansFolly posted:Ok. Thanks. (Building a Wizard Pauper EDH deck and can't figure out why a deck I am looking at is using Reef Shaman and Dream Thrush)  I love pauper EDH. What commanders are you thinking of?
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Mar 12, 2014 04:32
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OssiansFolly posted:I can't use a creature tap ability to change a land type as an interrupt, can I? Interrupt...now that's a word I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:32
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suicidesteve posted:Like if your opponent wants to tap a Mountain but you want to turn it into an Island? Nope. Best time to do that would be on his upkeep when he probably can't use the mana anyway. Arbor elf's activated ability is not a mana ability since it does not add mana and has a target. Elvish Mystic (or any of the Llanowar Elves functional reprints) does have a mana ability. Furthermore this also applies to triggered abilities like fertile ground kirtar fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 04:33
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Longshot007 posted:Thank you for the quick replies! Final question, are there any good white or colorless cards I can use to draw more cards? Yes! quote:Preferably ones that don't cost an arm and a leg.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:38
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Ramos posted:
Sage of Fables. Largely a Wizard and counter deck. I will get a running list together shortly and post it in the Deck Building Thread shortly. Edit: The work in progress list is in the Deck Building Thread. OssiansFolly fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 04:41
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kirtar posted:Arbor elf's activated ability is not a mana ability since it does not add mana and has a target. Elvish Mystic (or any of the Llanowar Elves functional reprints) does have a mana ability. Furthermore this also applies to triggered abilities like fertile ground I actually meant Elvish Mystic. I always use Arbor Elf as my generic mana dork even though it's not a mana dork and I know Llanowar Elf and Birds of Paradise are the generic mana dorks.
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Mar 12, 2014 05:01
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According to today's Uncharted Realms on the mothership, apparently something happens to Garruk (unless this is referencing Innistrad)quote:"And what about Garruk Wildspeaker?"
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Cozz posted:According to today's Uncharted Realms on the mothership, apparently something happens to Garruk (unless this is referencing Innistrad) Most likely Innistrad. Heck it even directly referenced it and Zendikar.
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Last we saw of Garruk, he was still on Innistrad in his cursed form from what Liliana did to him, being dragged off by Odric to see Avacyn.
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Promoted Pawn posted:Personally, I love sealed best because it most closely resembles both Richard Garfield's original vision of the game and what it was like first playing the game with my buds in '93. Everyone gets a handful of packs and you make the best of it. That on top of the regular arguments for limited being the One True Format. You have 0 PTQs near you, starting this week, for the next 3 months?
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So, two important announcements about Magic Online today: First one from earlier today: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140311006569/en/Hearthstone%E2%84%A2-Heroes-Warcraft%E2%84%A2-Fun#.Ux_hzvldXhM quote:
This one came late this evening: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/03112014/ptqannouncement quote:Hello everyone,
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Downtown Abey posted:This one came late this evening: I'm legitimately curious why Worth hasn't been fired yet.
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He's not in an enviable position, and they may know that. Short of a massive injection of cash to wholesale repair the back end there isn't going to be a good way to fix it.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:I'm legitimately curious why Worth hasn't been fired yet. As far as I can tell, Worth isn't the problem. He's stuck with a massively lovely client with a codebase older than some of its youngest players, and the new options that have come forward aren't really a step in the right direction. They need something that's effectively "MODO 2" to fix their backend problems, and it's going to take Hearthstone being profitable to even nudge Hasbro in the right direction. Worth is also the spearhead of the only thing that MTGO does right - community relations.
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Niton posted:As far as I can tell, Worth isn't the problem. He's stuck with a massively lovely client with a codebase older than some of its youngest players, and the new options that have come forward aren't really a step in the right direction. They need something that's effectively "MODO 2" to fix their backend problems, and it's going to take Hearthstone being profitable to even nudge Hasbro in the right direction. Worth was the head guy for MTGO throughout the development of the new "Beta" client, he can't wash his hands of that. For what it's worth I think it's likely that MTGO was badly underfunded (not enough programmers/not paying enough for quality programmers) and that the people making many of these calls were the guys above Worth, but at some point someone has to draw the line.
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Alaan posted:He's not in an enviable position, and they may know that. Short of a massive injection of cash to wholesale repair the back end there isn't going to be a good way to fix it. By "massive injection" do you mean being willing to pay industry standard wages and benefits for programmers who know their poo poo? "Only local candidates need apply. There is no relocation assistance for this position."
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I'm not sure why firing the bearer of bad news would somehow improve the situation. The real problem with modo is that Wizards isn't willing to allocate enough budget to it, and as a result they're staffed by junior engineers and people willing to work way below market on a product they like. No-one has any real experience with creating a properly scalable system, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have issues even just getting budget for more servers to handle additional load. It's actually kind of depressing, because they've done the hard work of building and maintaining a working rules engine, but it just falls down in the (comparatively easy to implement) area of matchmaking and tournaments.
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MODO is a train-wreck but I'm not sure people need to ponder how much Worth bears blame when something as simple as their hiring practices are ample enough evidence of why their client is total poo poo. Turns out you can't pay peanuts for programmers in an area with massive tech companies are based. Who knew!
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For comparison, a good mid-to-senior lead type engineer could make around 300k/yr all-in at amzn/google/valve etc in Seattle. I can't imagine they offer close to that. You do get $100 month credit towards msrp (actual msrp aka $143/box) sealed product though. Now that's a perk! vvv Well you can save up. They might get an employee discount too. When I was there for a tour everything available to me was msrp at least. Fuzzy Mammal fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:For comparison, a good mid-to-senior lead type engineer could make around 300k/yr all-in at amzn/google/valve etc in Seattle. I can't imagine they offer close to that. You do get $100 month credit towards msrp (actual msrp aka $143/box) sealed product though. Now that's a perk! They don't even get enough for a full box? I mean, only having to pay $34 for a box is pretty sweet and all, but that's it?
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So I have been thinking of making a w/x aura deck in standard using sphere of safety and other fun stuff and I have been thinking of either splashing red and going aggro or splashing blue and going more control. Which do you think is more useful in this current meta?
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Green/White is the usual combination for that. I know Eidolon of Countless Battles helps, but removal fucks you up real good with that sort of deck. Hexproof solves that problem.
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Boxman posted:Green/White is the usual combination for that. I know Eidolon of Countless Battles helps, but removal fucks you up real good with that sort of deck. Hexproof solves that problem. What about fiendslayer paladin? When he's big enough he survives drown/anger and no red or black spells which can target him can touch him. I prefer chained to the rocks/assemble the legion or detention sphere, verdicts and ephara.
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Samael posted:What about fiendslayer paladin? When he's big enough he survives drown/anger and no red or black spells which can target him can touch him. I prefer chained to the rocks/assemble the legion or detention sphere, verdicts and ephara. He doesn't actually survive either of those spells, neither of them target him.
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Death Bot posted:He doesn't actually survive either of those spells, neither of them target him. I meant when he's enchanted with stuff he can survive them.  I should really word my posts better, I apologize. I am leaning towards R/W enchantments because of chained to the rocks and boros charm. I am hoping for a fun R/W god in Journey to Nyx to support this archetype.
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My favorite part the article today.quote:Jace studied a page of notes from the crime scene. The cause of death in every case: petrification. How can he be a blue mage? He's retarded!
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