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GrandpaPants posted:In less lovely TG Kickstarter news, the Tokaido: Collector's Edition Kickstarter has an expansion as a stretch goal that is likely going to be reached. Although not the greatest of values I guess, especially if you don't care about all the minis, it's still a pretty well run Kickstarter that listens to user feedback and has reasonable stretch goals and whatnot. The problem I'm having with the Tokaido kickstarter right now is that it doesn't feel like I can get a whole lot of value out of it. I already own both the base game and the expansion, so the level I would want to go with is the 45 dollar one, but I don't get access to all of the stretch goal content without having to buy stuff that I already have purchased before. It's not really a good way to describe it but it feels to me like I'm in a worse position having supported them before rather than buying now.
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GrandpaPants posted:In less lovely TG Kickstarter news, the Tokaido: Collector's Edition Kickstarter has an expansion as a stretch goal that is likely going to be reached. Although not the greatest of values I guess, especially if you don't care about all the minis, it's still a pretty well run Kickstarter that listens to user feedback and has reasonable stretch goals and whatnot. Looks tempting! Has anyone played it/know if the game is fun?
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LLSix posted:Looks tempting! Has anyone played it/know if the game is fun? It's great. It takes no time to learn and plays super fast and smooth.
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LLSix posted:Looks tempting! Has anyone played it/know if the game is fun? It depends on what you're looking for. It is a suuuuper chill game. Like, you won't strain your brain and victories aren't exactly based on brilliant long term strategies, but it's pretty much a perfect cooldown game for me. And it's absolutely gorgeous to look at, to boot. Like literally one of the most beautiful games I've seen. They're asking for a lot, and a lot of that is just chrome (minis, coins, etc), so don't feel obligated to back the Kickstarter, but I enjoy the base game enough (that I luckily don't own) to pick it up.
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Pairs only has a couple days left. It uses a 55 card pyramid deck and looks like a lot of fun. They've raised a ton of money already, there's only one real stretch goal left, but I'd kinda like to see a video of James laughing all the way to the bank.
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Tried to back this project to get a copy of Falling, but for some reason Amazon messes up when it tries to process the pledge. Has anyone else had problems with it? edit: got it worked out AgentF fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Tower just reached the 25k mark, adding Lutfi, an AI player, to compete over resources and to make solo play possible. The next SG is at 30k, which will add the ability to directly steal from the tax office, which will set the Royal Guard on you until you either pay a fine or are caught.
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Pretty nice Wild-West gaming terrain from TTcombat with lot of options. Reasonable pirce and they will ship in may. (this year)
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More on terrain, the second Dwarven forge project is up, for caverns It's fair to say they're funding awful fast, already at
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adhuin posted:Pretty nice Wild-West gaming terrain from TTcombat with lot of options. This is kind of tempting to get for the windmills and water tower, both of which would make fine Infinity terrain, and I could get both for £8 with free shipping.
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So I got an email from Stonemaier Games (the chaps who did Euphoria and Viticulture)that Viticulture's expansion, Tuscany has been posted, and by the time I had a break from work (about 15 minutes later) to check out, it was already funded. Since I missed out on Viticulture, but pledged on, and have recieved Euphoria, I was an instant lock myself. looks like they've now tripled their goal amount, just over 60k in an hour. I can speak from experience on how well run their KSes are, I actually recieved Euphoria early, and there's always been a ton of communication and transparency with everything. alchahest fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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alchahest posted:So I got an email from Stonemaier Games (the chaps who did Euphoria and Viticulture)that Viticulture's expansion, Tuscany has been posted, and by the time I had a break from work (about 15 minutes later) to check out, it was already funded. This is probably more applicable for the actual BG thread, but how is Viticulture? My main issue with Euros is how non-interactive they feel, and on occasion how samey each game feels. So even though I enjoy the mechanics games like Hansa Teutonica, I don't play them that often because games just feel the same from game to game.
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The Blue Dungeon Tiles kickstarter looks pretty good. It's a simple tile set for doing dungeon/whatever layouts, and the price range is pretty impressive. $30 gets you 48 tiles that can be used with wet or dry erase markers, a few sheets of cardstock dungeon dressings, and a carrying case. The "blank" tile is actually the back of the normal tiles, not a separate tile.   I'm still waiting on the Tac-Tiles KS, but this looks like it'll be really useful too.
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GrandpaPants posted:This is probably more applicable for the actual BG thread, but how is Viticulture? My main issue with Euros is how non-interactive they feel, and on occasion how samey each game feels. So even though I enjoy the mechanics games like Hansa Teutonica, I don't play them that often because games just feel the same from game to game. I actually have no idea, I'm backing on the strength of Euphoria and how well the company runs kickstarters. Hopefully it's great!
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GrandpaPants posted:This is probably more applicable for the actual BG thread, but how is Viticulture? My main issue with Euros is how non-interactive they feel, and on occasion how samey each game feels. So even though I enjoy the mechanics games like Hansa Teutonica, I don't play them that often because games just feel the same from game to game. I haven't played Viticulture, but I've watched a couple of videos for it. I don't currently own a worker placement game, so I am intrigued by the game. Things I like about it: it looks to be medium weight, it plays within 1-2 hours, it's not a point salad engine in that it generates points exponentially (e.g. Russian Railroads, a game I didn't like at all), the components look excellent, and I was impressed by my friend's copy of Euphoria so I'm impressed by Stonemaier Games. The things I potentially may not like about Viticulture and Tuscany are: once someone reaches 20 points, the game ends, and there's no bonus for having extra money, goods, etc. Also, I worry how much more complicated it will be by adding all the additional parts from the expansions and especially the Tuscany expansion. Is it going to become this unwieldy pile of information that will lead to analysis paralysis? With all that said, I was looking at this Kickstarter for Tuscany, and I noticed there are no Kickstarter exclusives beyond getting approximately 35% discount off the MSRP. Yeah, there are the metal coins, but that's about it. Anyway, the price is as low of a price as it's going to be after it comes out, but I haven't played the base game yet, and I don't really know if I would want to add additional expansions to the mix if they'll just make it more complicated and make the game last longer. All in all, $79 for Viticulture plus Tuscany is a hefty price and it puts it into the Caverna range. Is it better than Caverna? I am not so sure. Also, paying 25% more to $99 for wooden boxes and metal coins seems a bit too much.
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Ow, my nostalgia. Those blue dungeon tiles really remind me of the old, old Dungeon Geomorphs booklet... which was probably the point of choosing that particular shade of blue.
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medchem posted:I haven't played Viticulture, but I've watched a couple of videos for it. I don't currently own a worker placement game, so I am intrigued by the game. Things I like about it: it looks to be medium weight, it plays within 1-2 hours, it's not a point salad engine in that it generates points exponentially (e.g. Russian Railroads, a game I didn't like at all), the components look excellent, and I was impressed by my friend's copy of Euphoria so I'm impressed by Stonemaier Games. The things I potentially may not like about Viticulture and Tuscany are: once someone reaches 20 points, the game ends, and there's no bonus for having extra money, goods, etc. Also, I worry how much more complicated it will be by adding all the additional parts from the expansions and especially the Tuscany expansion. Is it going to become this unwieldy pile of information that will lead to analysis paralysis? A lot of the stretch goals for Euphora came later on. The realistic components thing though caused them a bit of trouble, not because they were too expensive, or hard to make or anything, but because they were so well liked, that they wanted to produce more, like them, to be used in any games ( a sort of generic upgraded components box, gold bars, bricks, gems, coins, etc) but because they were kickstarter-exclusive, there was a lot of resistance to the idea from backers. well, like 3 or 4 percent of them anyways. They figured that Stonemaier shouldn't be able to make new upgraded components (different sculpts, even, they destroyed the masters used for the upgraded components in Euphoria). So Stonemaier decided not to offer exclusives in that way anymore. I believe there'll still be exclusives that are relevant just to the game, like, say, your name on a card or whatever, but they didn't want to shoot themselves in the foot going forward, if a KS exclusive item becomes highly in demand (like the realistic components), they didn't want to close that off as a market, nor did they want to alienate people who didn't happen to hear about a 4 week kickstarter. -edit- I should mention that I was actively involved in the discussion about the exclusives, and whether different, new resource upgrades would be considered breaking the trust of the backers, etc. I would prefer to see "Exclusives" done away with, and have the bonuses applied to retail copies of the game. getting things significantly cheaper and faster is good enough for me. I don't want to show off a game that I've got, and see a friend go to buy it and be disappointed because it's not as good. alchahest fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:The Blue Dungeon Tiles kickstarter looks pretty good. It's a simple tile set for doing dungeon/whatever layouts, and the price range is pretty impressive. $30 gets you 48 tiles that can be used with wet or dry erase markers, a few sheets of cardstock dungeon dressings, and a carrying case. $30 for this vs. the cooler but WAY more expensive Dwarven Forge stuff? Sold. I'm not made of money you know!!! 
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Bieeardo posted:Ow, my nostalgia. Those blue dungeon tiles really remind me of the old, old Dungeon Geomorphs booklet... which was probably the point of choosing that particular shade of blue. The guy pretty much admits as such, but it's also because with that shade of light blue, you can write on it with most colors of dry erase and the ink stands out nicely. Nostalgic and practical!
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alchahest posted:A lot of the stretch goals for Euphora came later on. The realistic components thing though caused them a bit of trouble, not because they were too expensive, or hard to make or anything, but because they were so well liked, that they wanted to produce more, like them, to be used in any games ( a sort of generic upgraded components box, gold bars, bricks, gems, coins, etc) but because they were kickstarter-exclusive, there was a lot of resistance to the idea from backers. well, like 3 or 4 percent of them anyways. They figured that Stonemaier shouldn't be able to make new upgraded components (different sculpts, even, they destroyed the masters used for the upgraded components in Euphoria). Wow, what an incredibly lovely situation. It's sorta disheartening that the backers were whiny enough to "lower" the quality of the game pieces in the future for the sake of their ~exclusive~. But I don't blame them for shifting away from Kickstarter exclusives, which are kinda annoying in general. I think the best compromise are Kickstarter promos that are free to backers for appropriate tiers, but can be purchased separately later. That is, it rewards and improves the value for backers, but it doesn't irrevocably punish people for either missing the KS, wanting to wait for reviews, or just didn't have the budget for it that month.
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Yeah - Stonemaier Games got enough positive feedback (I did mention that they polled their entire backer base before making a decision, right?) that they are going ahead with the plan for component upgrade packs, with different sculpts. Stonemaier did destroy the old sculpts, so the backers from Euphoria's kickstarter are literally the only ones who will get those particular pieces, to appease the whiners. Through the whole process, Jamey (the public face of Stonemaier) was very frank, very open, and discussed the decisions when made. I'm actually more a fan of the company after that situation than I was before, even. Looking forward to buying up a bunch of cool pieces to augment other games!
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Evil Mastermind posted:The Blue Dungeon Tiles kickstarter looks pretty good. It's a simple tile set for doing dungeon/whatever layouts, and the price range is pretty impressive. $30 gets you 48 tiles that can be used with wet or dry erase markers, a few sheets of cardstock dungeon dressings, and a carrying case. They do a really great job of selling them in the KS, highlighting the versatility. I think you could do a lot with that + marker + papercraft objects. I think I'ma back that, they really can be used for a lot of different games.
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That's exactly my thinking, medchem. as for Tuscany, it made funding in 16 minutes, and cleared all of it's original stretch goals in under four hours, a few more have been added now, and the initial burst is slowing down. If anyone's on the fence about it, or has an interest in worker placement games and in kickstarter projects, I would recommend following this, even if you don't end up pledging - Stonemaier runs a really, really tight kickstarter, and it's worth watching even if you ultimately don't end up a backer.
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I say this counts for the thread. Good God the umlauts have three dots. quote:We have taken a transmedia approach in the concept of The Rangers from its inception. Developing The Rangers Card Game and commissioning the Lt. Wolf miniature with an eye towards a tabletop battle game, in conjunction with the film development. With plans for novelizing the story, a graphic novel, a video game down the road, and more in the works. The goal, fantasy entertainment with total fan engagement and satisfaction in mind. LT. WOLF  You only get the miniatures if you pledge two thousand dollars though. The miniatures of LT. WOLF.
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quote:We have taken a transmedia approach in the concept of The Rangers from its inception. Developing The Rangers Card Game and commissioning the Lt. Wolf miniature with an eye towards a tabletop battle game, in conjunction with the film development. With plans for novelizing the story, a graphic novel, a video game down the road, and more in the works. The goal, fantasy entertainment with total fan engagement and satisfaction in mind.
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Ranger Lieutenant Ѡöℓƒ
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I am getting really irrationally angry because the triple-umlaut is actually Tengwar for an open a and if they were Tolkien nerds they would fuckin' know that. Instead, they are just putting it above every other loving vowel.
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I hope whoever wrote the kickstarter blurb isn't responsible for any of the script quote:The Rangers is about a special force of elite warriors known as Rangers. You don't say.
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quote:The Rangers is set in a world of high fantasy. It is a rich multi-layered and complex world, with it’s own mythos and lexicon of heroes and races. When we began conceiving the world of The Rangers we started with a creation myth and a timeline for the history of the world, in the same vein as Tolkien’s "Lord of the Rings". Drawing from our extensive role playing backgrounds and an almost Dungeons & Dragons style adventure world creation, we strove to produce a “Game of Thrones” level of intrigue in our realm, with surprises for the characters and viewers around every castle corner, and treacherous mountain pass. "We played a lot of D&D and it was awesome, so we've decided to make a movie about it. That has never gone wrong before." quote:You may have pictured Rangers like when Strider first appears puffing on his pipe at the Prancing Pony, or The Rangers of The North, maybe your vision of a Ranger was Robin Hood, or Drizzt Do’urden, possibly The Night’s Watch comes to mind, maybe even your favorite D&D character, The Rangers are all of that and more. They are even a bit Jedi (well at least, what I thought Jedi were as I grew up in the '80s - not as in with the force, but their awe and respect). "This is literally stolen from every fantasy story you've ever read...and more! (The more is Star Wars.)" quote:~Loyalty~Honor~Courage~Forever~The Rangers
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And it's transmedia so it will be terrible and derivative in a multitude of formats because spreading mediocrity thin is the way of the future!
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quote:Lt. Wolf and his Wolf Pack, an elite unit of Rangers, uncover a long-forgotten peril of ancient evil reawakening in this epic fantasy. Ahahaha this loving sentence. It reads like the tags on a piece of Apocalypse World gear.
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quote:~Loyalty~Honor~Courage~Forever~The Rangers New thread title/gang tag/forum name found.
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Great, now I've got an image in my head of a bunch of LARPers dancing around to the theme from Miami Connection. Thank you
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GimpInBlack posted:Ahahaha this loving sentence. It reads like the tags on a piece of Apocalypse World gear. When you uncover a long-forgotten peril of ancient evil reawakening, roll+cliche...
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I don't like how it caps out at King. If I'm blowing more than 500$ on a product, I expect to at least be a monarch. For 1000$, I want Emperor. And 10000 should drat well be An Ancient Evil.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:The Kickstarters are pretty much just for the super-deluxe editions. It's not something you should pledge to if you just want the game. I'm way, way late to this, but the $75 tier for the Mage20 KS is the Mage PDF, the Vampire PDF, and the Werewolf PDF. Cheaper than buying all three of them individually on DriveThruRPG, if you're interested in owning all three.
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