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NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches





Sample a, I don't think a halved top and quartered front quite go together

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Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010
Soldering does not create a blended metal weld, it only melts the tin/lead filler rod medium. When two pieces are put close together with molten material placed between them, they are joined when the solder cools and solidifies. :eng101:

AndyElusive posted:

These last couple of posts reminds me that I have a couple of staves for Necrons that I need to fix.

What's the best way to fix staffs to clenched fists and what not? Super glue has been a nightmare and isn't working. I'm using Gorilla glue btw. Do I need some other brand? Do I need to pin these things together?

Very thick poles can be drilled into and pinned together, or the pole ends to the clenched fist.

Thinner poles, or characters with large fists can take advantage of an even more durable method: find a drill bit that matches the diameter of the pole and use it to drill a hole through the fist. The weapon or banner then becomes the pin itself. Dab with super glue and never worry about it snapping again (especially with older white metal minis).

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord
I forgot how great chestnut ink smells. :catdrugs:

Yes, this means progress is finally happening! Did the GW washes change when they became known as shades? I feel like my new agrax earthshade is spreading better than my old devlan mud, but I can't tell if that's just because the devlan mud was bought like 3 years ago.


edit:

VVVVVVV That owns, dude. Keep up the good work! VVVVVVV

Fake James fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Mar 12, 2014

Lord Humongus
Apr 10, 2009

ice ice baby :toot:
Hey guys I worked all day on this plague marine, it's my first time with green stuff and plague dudes, the base and backpack are uncompleted though. If anyone has any criticism, that'd be cool yo.

Lord Humongus fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Mar 12, 2014

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Your advice about Screamer Pink was spot on, cheers.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Dr. Lenin posted:

I forgot how great chestnut ink smells. :catdrugs:

Yes, this means progress is finally happening! Did the GW washes change when they became known as shades? I feel like my new agrax earthshade is spreading better than my old devlan mud, but I can't tell if that's just because the devlan mud was bought like 3 years ago.


edit:

VVVVVVV That owns, dude. Keep up the good work! VVVVVVV

The washes were improved massively when they turned to shades. They no longer stink of vomit and actually flow over your model much better.

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Your advice about Screamer Pink was spot on, cheers.

:hf:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

AndyElusive posted:

Super glue has been a nightmare and isn't working.
CA glue tends to decay. If you glue is older than 2 months, you may want to get a new tube.

Dr. Lenin posted:

I forgot how great chestnut ink smells. :catdrugs:
No, my addiction! gently caress youuuuuuuuuu :argh:

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord

Pierzak posted:

CA glue tends to decay. If you glue is older than 2 months, you may want to get a new tube.

No, my addiction! gently caress youuuuuuuuuu :argh:

Huh, didn't know that about CA glue. I've been using a bottle I've had for 5-6 months now and it seems to be fine, but when binding larger plastic pieces it's hard to tell if the quality is slipping. Any quality loss over time when it's dry? Does it become more brittle as it ages?

Also, this is the first time I've been happy with how my marines' eyes (visors? view holes?) have come out:



Usually I just left them black or unintentionally made them look like :pwn:.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Dr. Lenin posted:

Huh, didn't know that about CA glue. I've been using a bottle I've had for 5-6 months now and it seems to be fine, but when binding larger plastic pieces it's hard to tell if the quality is slipping. Any quality loss over time when it's dry? Does it become more brittle as it ages?
Personally, mine usually dries in the bottle before I ever see a decline in quality. That's why I stopped buying CA in bottles and started just buying it in multi-pack tubes. I probably get a little less glue in total, but I don't lose half to the ravages of time.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Dr. Lenin posted:

Huh, didn't know that about CA glue. I've been using a bottle I've had for 5-6 months now and it seems to be fine, but when binding larger plastic pieces it's hard to tell if the quality is slipping. Any quality loss over time when it's dry? Does it become more brittle as it ages?
In my experience if it gives you a strong bond and doesn't break shortly after, it'll last. The main problem with old CA glue is getting a strong bond in the first place.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
Anyone have experience painting minis with oils, or oils over acrylic basecoats? Not simple washes, I mean actual oil blending and such. I've watched a few videos and I'm fascinated, it seems so intuitive and easy to get nice blends.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

Dr. Lenin posted:

Huh, didn't know that about CA glue. I've been using a bottle I've had for 5-6 months now and it seems to be fine, but when binding larger plastic pieces it's hard to tell if the quality is slipping. Any quality loss over time when it's dry? Does it become more brittle as it ages?

Also, this is the first time I've been happy with how my marines' eyes (visors? view holes?) have come out:



Usually I just left them black or unintentionally made them look like :pwn:.

That looks super sweet, I really like the pallid armor with the bright flesh, reminds me a bit of this guy:

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

Apollodorus posted:

Hm, that sounds like a better option than green stuff, but on the other hand I don't want to support Hobby Lobby's regressive anti-employee healthcare policies.

Is it this stuff?

http://www.amazon.com/Tamiya-Putty-Basic-Type-32g/dp/B0073T7PXG

Yes. That's the stuff. Works great. Dries super fast, once it's sanded the seam is completely gone.

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy

JoshTheStampede posted:

Anyone have experience painting minis with oils, or oils over acrylic basecoats? Not simple washes, I mean actual oil blending and such. I've watched a few videos and I'm fascinated, it seems so intuitive and easy to get nice blends.

Make sure you cover the mini with a good coat of varnish before you work with oils over acrylic otherwise it will screw up the basecoat. I use glosscoat, then do the oil work, then dullcote or satin to take the shine off.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Verdugo posted:

Yes. That's the stuff. Works great. Dries super fast, once it's sanded the seam is completely gone.

I bought a bottle of Vallejo Plastic Putty a while ago which is pretty much the same thing and it's worked pretty great as well if you're looking for options.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Awesome, much cheaper than the Golden Paste stuff.

You use very fine sandpaper, right? Like, 1000 grit?

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Painting light time.

I've been painting my Escher gang up - I paint under a cheapo magnifying lamp using a 75 watt blue daylight bulb. When I was spraying the models with Dullcote though, I noticed that the flesh transitions didn't look right. I thought I was getting frosting with the Dullcote, but the rest of the model seemed ok. I stepped outside to look at the models under natural light, and the transitions were really, really bad looking. Inside though, the models look fine.

What the hell is going on? Is my daylight bulb getting washed out by the room lights? Do I need to invest in something better than a single bulb? Has anyone else had this issue? Granted, it isn't a huge deal, since it isn't like I'll be gaming outside, but it does bug me and I'd like to figure out what's happening.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
My stuff tends to look like poo poo in natural daylight but I don't care since I don't game or display minis outside.

I do carry stuff around from the desk daylight bulb to the overhead room light to the bathroom flourescent to make sure it's ok though.

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Is it viable to paint details with an airbrush. I wouldn't mind doing a bit more to my gators outside of just basing them with it, but I'm uncertain how I can take things further.

Is it possible to apply washes etc with one? or should I just be brushing it on?

Edit: These are the models. They are 40mm across at the base. I have a couple slightly larger ones as well, but I assume you would use the same sort of techniques.


This is the paint scheme I was thinking of working towards, but if there's anything I can do to pull ahead using an airbrush then that would be ideal.
Hand Cannon Guide

w00tmonger fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Mar 12, 2014

Pacheeco
Feb 26, 2004

w00tmonger posted:

Is it viable to paint details with an airbrush. I wouldn't mind doing a bit more to my gators outside of just basing them with it, but I'm uncertain how I can take things further.

Is it possible to apply washes etc with one? or should I just be brushing it on?

It really depends on what the details are, your airbrush needle size and the size of the models. I've never done washes through an airbrush but I really don't think it would work well (which is why I haven't done it). The wash will atomize and then dry in the air so the wash would hit the model and just stick where it lands. Also trying to airbrush wash into crevices would be an absolute nightmare, better to just brush it on. There's better ways of getting doing shading with an airbrush. I have no idea what these gator models are but if you post a picture I could see if airbrushing them would be viable.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

w00tmonger posted:

Is it viable to paint details with an airbrush. I wouldn't mind doing a bit more to my gators outside of just basing them with it, but I'm uncertain how I can take things further.

Is it possible to apply washes etc with one? or should I just be brushing it on?

Edit: These are the models. They are 40mm across at the base. I have a couple slightly larger ones as well, but I assume you would use the same sort of techniques.


This is the paint scheme I was thinking of working towards, but if there's anything I can do to pull ahead using an airbrush then that would be ideal.
Hand Cannon Guide

With a good enough airbrush and practice, you can do some pretty nice details with an airbrush. It's not gonna 100% eliminate brush painting but you can definitely get to a point where you're doing the majority of it. It's just a different skill set to learn from brush painting.

You can do washes with it but it's not really any easier than washes with a brush. It basically comes down to how often you're willing to clean your brush. I won't pull out the airbrush for something that would only take me 5 minutes with a brush anyway.

90% of what I use my airbrush for is priming, basecoating and varnishing, but it was worth the price of admission just for that. I figure anything else I do with it is gravy.

Do not airbrush gravy though.

Pacheeco
Feb 26, 2004

w00tmonger posted:

Is it viable to paint details with an airbrush. I wouldn't mind doing a bit more to my gators outside of just basing them with it, but I'm uncertain how I can take things further.

Is it possible to apply washes etc with one? or should I just be brushing it on?

Edit: These are the models. They are 40mm across at the base. I have a couple slightly larger ones as well, but I assume you would use the same sort of techniques.


This is the paint scheme I was thinking of working towards, but if there's anything I can do to pull ahead using an airbrush then that would be ideal.
Hand Cannon Guide

An airbrush could be helpful for doing a reptile belly gradient on their undersides but it might be too late in the painting process to do that. Other than that there's not a whole lot, at least with my skills, that I could do with these models and an airbrush unless you wanted to do their back scales with multiple colors, like transitioning from a lighter color on the outside scales to a darker color on the inner scales. These look good for a more realistic reptile scheme. Alligators are pretty much dark color on top, lighter color on the underside and you hit the those details well.

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord
First time ever freehanding a symbol. My hands are too shaky for this. Now it's time to paint a backpack and some arms! :woop:



I'm not too happy with how the head came out, but I'm not sure what to do at this point. There's already a good amount of layers and I don't want to strip him just to fix one small detail. Any recommendations?

The Impaler
Dec 28, 2011

10 Brogies
20 GOTO 10
Head looks fine mate, don't get obsessively held up on one model. Finish the guy up and paint on! You'll get an idea or once he's got his arms and a base, it'll look better for you.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Dr. Lenin posted:

Any recommendations?

I got one.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Someone needs to make it an emoticon :allears:

Pilgrimski
Apr 23, 2008
http://www.graffiticreator.net/

I couldn't design it well enough to make something like CyberLord

CyberLord XP posted:

Cross post from the minatures thread:



Maybe people could print up decals with this design tool? Transfers? Or just on thin enough paper to mould onto a surface.

Pacheeco
Feb 26, 2004

Dr. Lenin posted:

First time ever freehanding a symbol. My hands are too shaky for this. Now it's time to paint a backpack and some arms! :woop:



I'm not too happy with how the head came out, but I'm not sure what to do at this point. There's already a good amount of layers and I don't want to strip him just to fix one small detail. Any recommendations?

This looks great, stop being overly critical of your work. Definitely don't try and go back and "fix" the head. If you do that there's a 95% chance you really will mess it up, it's one of those certainties. Finish that one and move on to the next one and don't stop until you have an entire unit completely finished. Then you can take the time to analyze your work as a whole both up close and from table top distance. If you really don't like the skin tone don't try and strip it or paint over it. Go dig up some spare heads from your bitz and practice on those. This is what I did for my Tyranids to get the skin color and carapace color I liked; I did some quick jobs on some spare Scything Talon bits until I perfected the scheme. 30 minutes of work beforehand saved me potentially hours of work down the line.

Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Mar 13, 2014

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Pilgrimski posted:

http://www.graffiticreator.net/

I couldn't design it well enough to make something like CyberLord


Maybe people could print up decals with this design tool? Transfers? Or just on thin enough paper to mould onto a surface.

Holy crap this is useful, I may experiment with printing out graffiti and gluing it to flat terrain surfaces.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

serious gaylord posted:

How much you willing to spend?

Not really sure as I have no idea how these things are usually priced, but probably not too far into the double digits.

ijyt fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Mar 13, 2014

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord

Pacheeco posted:

This looks great, stop being overly critical of your work. Definitely don't try and go back and "fix" the head. If you do that there's a 95% chance you really will mess it up, it's one of those certainties. Finish that one and move on to the next one and don't stop until you have an entire unit completely finished.

I've really got to get better at this. I spent so much more time painting single models in the past that I keep forgetting I have a whole army ahead of me to paint. I really should think more about just getting it all to tabletop quality and save the better work for individual characters.


I should probably buy this as an emote for you guys when I'm all done.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


I started painting my 40k tau guns again and I forgot how boring they look when you paint them a uniform black. I saw this which makes it look more interesting. Anyone have more examples of playing around with gun colors in this way? It still gives it an overall black and cool feel without looking too crazy. How would I go about making a warmer gun? Brown stock and/or NMM bronze?

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
I paint the barrel covers and sights on my Tau guns the same color as the armor, including an accent color (my squads are color-coded) along the top of the barrel. The remainder (stock, trigger guard, receiver[?], etc.) is black.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Dr. Lenin posted:

I've really got to get better at this. I spent so much more time painting single models in the past that I keep forgetting I have a whole army ahead of me to paint. I really should think more about just getting it all to tabletop quality and save the better work for individual characters.


I should probably buy this as an emote for you guys when I'm all done.

It really is a psychological shift. It's very much like writing - nothing is ever done, you just get tired of improving it and call it "sufficient."

It's a game I play in my head but I say to myself "okay this is good enough for now - I will apply what I learned to the next one and I can come back to this later." And of course I never come back to it.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Apollodorus posted:

I paint the barrel covers and sights on my Tau guns the same color as the armor, including an accent color (my squads are color-coded) along the top of the barrel. The remainder (stock, trigger guard, receiver[?], etc.) is black.

I always paint by lasguns Castellan Green regardless of how my uniforms are painted and then the magazine, barrel and aquila on the side are metallic while stock and trigger is left black. Those things are mass produced so they might as well look the part and I kinda like the classic green lasgun that's in the older codex.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Apollodorus posted:

I paint the barrel covers and sights on my Tau guns the same color as the armor, including an accent color (my squads are color-coded) along the top of the barrel. The remainder (stock, trigger guard, receiver[?], etc.) is black.

That's what I'm trying to avoid. I did that on my old group of tau because I never saw an example like the one I linked that made the gun look interesting while maintaining it's "blackness." I always thought it looked tacky but did it anyway so it wouldn't look boring. Now that I see how you can make interesting guns without resorting to that, I'd prefer to do it that way. It's the same thing with stealth suits. A lot of people will paint them these weird colors just so they pop but if you look at metal gear and splinter cell concept art they manage to make it look interesting while maintaining the cohesive stealthy look and having a nice (green, red, blue) accent.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Dr. Lenin posted:

I've really got to get better at this. I spent so much more time painting single models in the past that I keep forgetting I have a whole army ahead of me to paint. I really should think more about just getting it all to tabletop quality and save the better work for individual characters.


I should probably buy this as an emote for you guys when I'm all done.

It is hard because you simultaneously want to practice and get better on models you don't care about but also don't want to waste time painting models you don't care about.

Paint the stuff you are excited about. Don't rush it, but just loving paint it. You can always strip and repaint down the road if you're really embarassed, but since you get better with every model you'll unavoidably have a bunch of models you think you could do better now.

It's all just time management, would you rather go back and paint marine number 5 to your new standard or just paint new ones?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Fox of Stone posted:

That's what I'm trying to avoid. I did that on my old group of tau because I never saw an example like the one I linked that made the gun look interesting while maintaining it's "blackness." I always thought it looked tacky but did it anyway so it wouldn't look boring. Now that I see how you can make interesting guns without resorting to that, I'd prefer to do it that way. It's the same thing with stealth suits. A lot of people will paint them these weird colors just so they pop but if you look at metal gear and splinter cell concept art they manage to make it look interesting while maintaining the cohesive stealthy look and having a nice (green, red, blue) accent.

From what I can tell from the picture you've linked, they've just highlighted the black of the guns with a blue-grey rather than a neutral grey, maybe tried for a NMM look. It really shouldn't be that hard.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Doctor Zero posted:

It's a game I play in my head but I say to myself "okay this is good enough for now - I will apply what I learned to the next one and I can come back to this later." And of course I never come back to it.

This is also my experience. It's also tremendously helpful to tell yourself that you're painting a squad, not a dozen individuals. Judge your work by how the group looks as a whole, not any individual. Get the squad done to an acceptable level, and then go back to obsess over all the pouch straps, buttons, and eyebrows. You may not even care to after you see the group as a whole.

This also gives a more uniform appearance, since there is no doubt you're using the same colors and techniques on each individual.

The Oath thread has really helped me get over painting one at a time. Setting a deadline was invaluable. Now I feel like it's a waste of time to do one guy's boot laces when nine other figures don't even have painted boots yet. I can get them afterward if I need to, and usually I don't need to.

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SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Dr. Lenin posted:

I should probably buy this as an emote for you guys when I'm all done.
With what, one model? He's looking good but you're your own worst enemy on this one. And as someone who regularly takes unflatteringly close up pictures of his model: that freehand looks fine and nobody will think otherwise.

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