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NikkolasKing posted:Isn't SSJ3 Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan in that one? Yes and no, Gohan does a decent job holding 1/2 of Hirudegarne at bay, and in all fairness EVERYONE including Goku gets their rear end kicked in the final battle. Goku just recovers enough to tell Trunks he wants to handle it, because, well, it's the finale to DBZ so of course Goku gets the killing shot.
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NikkolasKing posted:He might have been Super Saiyan 2 against Broly in Movie 10 and Dabura in the Buu Saga. The problem is that SSJ2 is such a lazy loving design that it's impossible to tell on older Gohan. You can tell with his Cell Games self because he has more hair to stick straight up but not so as an adult. He's almost certainly in SSJ 2 in both of these instances. When he goes Super Saiyan 2 against Broly he proceeds to stomp his face for all of 30 seconds before Broly takes on his full form, which makes sense since the Super Saiyan's from the first movie got stomped but a Super Saiyan 2 should be able to keep up. The same is true of Dabura. They mention that Dabura is roughly on par with Cell, and Gohan is fighting him more or less to a draw. Vegeta gets annoyed that Gohan has gotten so weak over the years that his Super Saiyan 2 form isn't capable of stomping someone of cell's caliber anymore.
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Mar 12, 2014 01:40
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Yeah, I guess I meant teen Gohan specifically, or more precisely Gohan when he was the best fighter. All the other stuff he appears in when he's that age he barely does anything of note.
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Mar 12, 2014 01:58
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carry on then posted:Yeah, I guess I meant teen Gohan specifically, or more precisely Gohan when he was the best fighter. All the other stuff he appears in when he's that age he barely does anything of note. Yeah, teen Gohan really is the best Gohan. 
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Mar 12, 2014 03:28
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NikkolasKing posted:The problem is that SSJ2 is such a lazy loving design that it's impossible to tell on older Gohan. You can tell with his Cell Games self because he has more hair to stick straight up but not so as an adult.  Movie 10 shows the difference, since Gohan starts out in SSJ2 against Broly, then inexplicably switches to SSJ1 for the energy blast battle.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:41
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Disharmony posted:
The big issue with this is that a lot of the time the shittier art crews in the anime didn't have the time or the effort to properly animate the more subtle difference between SSJ and SSJ2.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:43
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Somewhat related: Goku pants. from http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3615777
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Mar 12, 2014 03:45
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Caros posted:That doesn't really answer his question, it just refers to the first iteration of the joke. The origin of the joke, as far as I can tell, lies in the Dragonball Z opening song "CHA -LA HEAD CHA-LA". Huh, had no idea that was actually the lyrics. Thanks for the tip! Also, if anything this has made me realize that I need to watch the abridged movies still. Forgot there were some. Ninja E: Oh and which movie is Battle of the Gods, numerically? I actually really liked that one as well and would recommend it. Even if the fight scene at the end wasn't quite as good as some of the others, it was still a fun movie.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:55
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Drowning Rabbit posted:Huh, had no idea that was actually the lyrics. Thanks for the tip! It didn't really have a number, but it's the 14th after Wrath of the Dragon. Although some might say it's the 15th if they count the special from 2008 called Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!
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Mar 12, 2014 03:58
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Disharmony posted:
I'm sorry, but the differences are still very very subtle. Also, don't bother watching Battle of the Gods on Youtube. There are several videos labelled as "Battle of the Gods" and they are either Yo, Son Goku and Friends Return! or the Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans or whatever it's called.
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Mar 12, 2014 04:06
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NikkolasKing posted:So are any of the DBZ movies actually, ya know, good? The Team Four Star ones, and no others. 
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Mar 12, 2014 05:32
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SSJ2 is easy. If they have electricity then they are. Like Majin Vegeta is SSJ2. Easier than looking for hair standing straighter than usual.   
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Mar 12, 2014 05:57
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I wish Toriyama had come up with something different for the SSJ-SS2 thing beyond just random electricity. Like, I don't know, make the entire aura electrical, or make it a different color than yellow, or make it seep into their eyes or something, just anything other than things that are easily missed in the frenetic animation.
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Mar 12, 2014 06:03
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Somewhat related: Goku pants. I drew this 
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Mar 12, 2014 06:26
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Anyone here good at translating Japanese manga? I've got something to share with the community here but I need to get it translated first. I guarantee people will like it.
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Mister Roboto posted:I wish Toriyama had come up with something different for the SSJ-SS2 thing beyond just random electricity. Like, I don't know, make the entire aura electrical, or make it a different color than yellow, or make it seep into their eyes or something, just anything other than things that are easily missed in the frenetic animation. Yeah, the difference is minor. I'm not sure if that's because it was originally intended to be an endgame or what, but it's pretty nondescript. Even in the Cell Games, Gohan will go entire shots without actually arcing. Although I guess if I was commanding so much energy it was randomly shooting arcs of electricity around me I wouldn't complain  .
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Mar 12, 2014 07:46
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Disharmony posted:
Vegeta is totally the best in there, no need to be super serious just go all out  .
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Mar 12, 2014 07:52
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Disharmony posted:
I think it would have been better design wise if teen Gohan's hair mirrored Future Gohan. Or hell, just have Gohan retain his hair style from the Cell saga. Then all the questions about SSJ1 or 2 would have been clear cut.
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Mar 12, 2014 19:30
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Mister Roboto posted:I wish Toriyama had come up with something different for the SSJ-SS2 thing beyond just random electricity. Like, I don't know, make the entire aura electrical, or make it a different color than yellow, or make it seep into their eyes or something, just anything other than things that are easily missed in the frenetic animation. Well with goku and gohan there's that one bit of hair over the forehead that's a p.obvious visual cue, but there's nothing for Vegeta at all.
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Mar 12, 2014 21:51
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Namtab posted:Well with goku and gohan there's that one bit of hair over the forehead that's a p.obvious visual cue, but there's nothing for Vegeta at all. Nah, Vegeta's way easier. He gets more and more smug.
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Mar 12, 2014 22:11
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Nah, Vegeta's way easier. He gets more and more smug. You'd be smug too if you were prince of all saiyans
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Mar 12, 2014 22:23
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Namtab posted:You'd be smug too if you were prince of all saiyans Pfft, that's just like, eight people. Some prince. 
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Mar 12, 2014 22:40
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Namtab posted:You'd be smug too if you were prince of all saiyans All five of them, over half not pure Saiyans.
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Mar 12, 2014 22:40
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Counting Tullece and Broly and Tarble, are we?
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Captain Oblivious posted:The Team Four Star ones, and no others. Si very true. http://youtu.be/vZI7LISLBa0?t=13m41s The fact that Santa was Kyle Hebert (narrator, Buu Saga Gohan) is amazing.
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Mar 12, 2014 22:57
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Mister Roboto posted:Counting Tullece and Broly and Tarble, are we? Just Tarble, then Gohan, Goku, Pan, Bra, Trunks, and Goten, and then I realized I counted Trunks twice.
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Mar 12, 2014 22:59
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WickedHate posted:Just Tarble, then Gohan, Goku, Pan, Bra, Trunks, and Goten, and then I realized I counted Trunks twice. Yea you should have counted him 3 times.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:02
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Seeing as cell has saiyan DNA does that make vegeta his prince?
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Don't forget about :   
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Ok I'll bite. What is that supposed to be?
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crankdatbatman posted:Ok I'll bite. What is that supposed to be? http://mangafox.me/manga/neko_majin/
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Learned a couple of days ago that all of the DBZ movies are on YouTube, except for Battle of the Gods apparently. Watching Wrath of the Dragon, it's striking just how quickly everyone other than Goku gives up. It's a pretty consistent theme throughout the series, really: Bad guy shows up, Goku's not there, everyone else tries to fight, get hit like twice, groan to themselves "we tried our best!" and then collapse. Gohan's especially terrible about this. At least Vegeta, Goten and Trunks usually have the dignity to get knocked out instead of just admitting defeat. Edit: Unrelated, but I don't think I've heard one suggestion so far in this movie that they get the giant monster out of the densely-populated city.
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surf rock posted:Learned a couple of days ago that all of the DBZ movies are on YouTube, except for Battle of the Gods apparently. Watching Wrath of the Dragon, it's striking just how quickly everyone other than Goku gives up. It's a pretty consistent theme throughout the series, really: Bad guy shows up, Goku's not there, everyone else tries to fight, get hit like twice, groan to themselves "we tried our best!" and then collapse. Gohan's especially terrible about this. At least Vegeta, Goten and Trunks usually have the dignity to get knocked out instead of just admitting defeat. I don't remember but did Piccolo even bother to show up?
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Squallege posted:I don't remember but did Piccolo even bother to show up? Piccolo died of uselessness after movie 9.
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I've just read the first 10 volumes of the original Dragon Ball, having previously read the Saiyan Saga and nothing else. My thoughts:
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, as Pilaf can't think of what he's going to do with the world after he takes over. In a modern shonen series, Commander Red would be trying to resurrect his dead wife or unite all human consciousness or something.
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Silver2195 posted:[*]The same wiki assures me that Boss Rabbit survived when Roshi blew up the moon. This was asked by  worried fans to Toriyama who were concerned that the evil Boss Rabbit, despite being evil, was killed. He, of course, had to say the rabbit survived.
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RBX posted:SSJ2 is easy. If they have electricity then they are. Like Majin Vegeta is SSJ2. Easier than looking for hair standing straighter than usual. Nobody made SSJ2 look better than Teen Gohan Fucker rocked that hair Adult Gohan always seemed like a major downgrade, I wish they had spent more time on TG
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Parrotine posted:Nobody made SSJ2 look better than Teen Gohan Adult gohan is the strongest in the universe but still doesnt do crap. He had a lot more balls as a kid.
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Silver2195 posted:Also, Arale owns. Looking her up on the Dragon Ball wiki, it seems Goku still hasn't surpassed her at this point in the story. Arale remains unparalleled throughout all stories she's a part of and would've rocked Bills.
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It's interesting how people call kid Gohan "Teen Gohan." When Gohan kills Cell he's 9/11. When Buu saga starts, he's 16/18. The age discrepancy is because the manga says he's 9 while the anime says 11.
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