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RangerAce posted:But yeah, I also enjoyed the Cam-Vala seasons of SG-1. The big supergate battle, for instance, was one of the best battles they've had in all of Stargate. Because of when it was made I absolutely adore all the 304 scenes in SGU with Carter on the Hammond wrecking poo poo. CGI had advanced to the point where they took what was already one of my favorite ships and made it even more awesome. The death gliders, the 302s and the Ha'taks all seemed way more imposing with updated graphics. Even the Destiny's design and the FTL effect were loving awesome compared to anything Stargate had ever served up before. I still feel the need to murder someone at Syfy for canceling the show just as it was finding its feet. The music (and I don't mean the season 1 closing montages) was really well done IMO as well. Atlantis did its 304 scenes nicely as well, but all of Stargate CGI is just a product of its time. I guess I kinda feel like it could have been the DS9 to SG1/Atlantis' TNG. I'd probably only change a few things: 1. Flush Ming-Na's character out an airlock. 2. Lt. Bland can stay or go but Greer should have been running poo poo under the Col. 3. Find some way to inject a bit of the SG-1 style humor into it regularly. A good example of this is when O'Neill (two L's) uses the stones to go talk to Lou Diamond Phillips and goes out the door in the wrong direction right after complaining about being switched with a Sgt. HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Mar 12, 2014 |
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cycowolf posted:Was sick the other day so I started watching SG1 yet again. It is amazing to me that no matter how many times I have watched this series, the first sight of Kinsey always pisses me off. I hate that bastard. Yes, I always hated that dick. Also, I liked Vala. I thought she did a great job filling a second female character on the main cast.
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I think that's the big thing that killed SG:U for a lot of Stargate fans. No humor. SG-1 obviously had it with O'Niell, and Atlantis had some humor interjected in. Just the humorous and human banter is what made the series. Then SG:U comes along and everyone is an emotionless robot for most part. With only anger or angst to break the emotionless monotony.
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Floppychop posted:I think that's the big thing that killed SG:U for a lot of Stargate fans. No humor. Exactly. Good or bad Stargate was always fun. There was an ever-present sense that nobody was taking anything too seriously. SG:U on the other hand sucked all the fun out of it. They tried to capitalize on BSG's dark and gritty feel which didn't work at all for a Stargate show.
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Diesel posted:They tried to capitalize on BSG's dark and gritty feel which didn't work at all for a Stargate show. This is exactly what turned me off about it. I have now watched the whole thing and it got better but it never had the feel of Stargate. I would love something new down the road. It is a shame it died like that.
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Oh my God, "Foothold" is such a lazy episode. Like, at one point one of the aliens has Carter on the floor ready to be killed and then he literally walks away. They don't even come up with a decent reason for it, he just gets called over the PA system and he turns away and leaves her there. Even the showrunners must've felt embarrassed by this episode because the ending is all "oh no, the aliens escaped with all our knowledge they could come back and invade us again" and they are never mentioned again. I did like how at the end the alien leader who gets trapped before he can gate out turns around and presses a big red button on his chest that starts flashing a big red light and making a beeping noise faster and faster, and everyone literally stares at him for 60 seconds before they realize that hey, that might be a bomb. Fake edit: just realized that the aliens in this episode were the SG equivalent of Scooby-Doo villains.
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The Farscape thread died, so this is a good of a place as any to post it: Justin Monjo is writing a Farscape movie for HBO about John and Aeryn's babby, 20 years later. And Brian Henson's attached to direct! I don't know what to think of it, but eh, it's more Farscape. http://if.com.au/2014/02/21/article/Monjo-pens-HBO-pilot-Farscape-movie/QNYSTLVCCT.html quote:Game of Thrones’ Peter Dinklage is in talks to star in the pilot for an HBO series scripted by Sydney-based Justin Monjo and produced by Ben Stiller’s Red Hour Films. Maybe we should resurrect the Farscape thread so there's somewhere to talk about it. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Mar 13, 2014 02:33
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Oh, good, the franchise had died with some dignity, better change that.
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I couldn't even start the 4th season of Farscape. It just got too "meh". Rigel sells out the whole group almost every other episode? They just let it go with "Well, that's Rigel for you, ha ha ha." The constant 3-parters made it just drag on too.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Oh my God, "Foothold" is such a lazy episode. Like, at one point one of the aliens has Carter on the floor ready to be killed and then he literally walks away. They don't even come up with a decent reason for it, he just gets called over the PA system and he turns away and leaves her there. counterpoint: that episode had Maybourne being cool, and was the episode to start Maybourne actually being a likable person, as opposed to the cartoon villain he was prior.
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Floppychop posted:I couldn't even start the 4th season of Farscape. It just got too "meh". The fact that it was serialized made it drag? Also yeah Rigel does try to sell them out every now and then, but they still need him. He is able to get them things that they would not be able to get other ways. Also they have all done bad poo poo to their fellow shipmates. I mean they did cut off Pilots arm.
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Apparently the script for the Atlantis movie is being made into a 4 part comic series. http://www.gateworld.net/news/2014/03/boom-unfilmed-stargate-extinction-movie-script-may-be-a-comic-series/
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OH MY GOD THREE PART EPISODES THAT SUCKS. Seriously?
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Floppychop posted:I couldn't even start the 4th season of Farscape. It just got too "meh". There are plenty of situations where sticking with an rear end in a top hat happens in the real world. Not least of which is that he helps keep them alive numerous times. Make yourself useful enough to be kept around. For the most part, pretty much every person manipulates the other's so that they are important enough to survive. Rygel is grating, and irritating, and probably the most easy to relate with of the bunch. Crichton is a human who can handle everything he dealt with just by going crazy a little bit (most people would shut down or go completely insane, if not kill themselves once they're lost to Earth). Aeryn revolts against everything she was raised to believe by a wink and a smile (she was so indoctrinated by the Peacekeepers that it shouldn't be so easy to let it go, even if they abandon you). D'argo was a young "general" in an alien army who was framed for murder by his brother in law, when there is all this tech that should easily be able to prove his innocence (what kind of farce of a trial wouldn't check for that kind of stuff?). Zhaan is a nymphomaniac priest. I could go on. On the other hand, Rygel is simple. Rygel is.....greedy. Conspicuously, reliably, greedy. And even then, he grows attached to the crew on a more emotional level and that comes to bear later in the series. He was certainly the easiest to understand his motivations. With the rest of the crew you never fully understand why they're there. Rygel was deposed so he has nowhere else to go, until he has a way to retake the throne of Hyneria. D'argo could go clear his name (before, or after he finds Jothee). Chianna can find her brother, or go with D'argo or whatever, etc etc etc.
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JetsGuy posted:counterpoint: that episode had Maybourne being cool, and was the episode to start Maybourne actually being a likable person, as opposed to the cartoon villain he was prior. Did he actually become cool after that? I barely remember his story arch and also I hate his smug face. Is he the one that ends up becoming king of some medieval village?
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That's the guy. Maybourne is the best.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Luigi Thirty posted:The Farscape thread died, so this is a good of a place as any to post it: Justin Monjo is writing a Farscape movie for HBO about John and Aeryn's babby, 20 years later. And Brian Henson's attached to direct! I don't know what to think of it, but eh, it's more Farscape. Wow, what incredibly good news.
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Maybourne was always cool. He was one of the good bad guys. Especially once he split with NID and just kinda showed up to annoy Jack.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Did he actually become cool after that? ...and helped the SGC quite a few times after that episode... especially when it came to Sen. Kinsey. In the end, we all find out that Maybourne really just wanted what he thought was best for the planet, he wasn't I MUST RULE THE WORLD like the rest of the NID.
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JetsGuy posted:...and helped the SGC quite a few times after that episode... especially when it came to Sen. Kinsey. Gotta love that Dick Jones. Sorry Vice President Dick Jones.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Game of Thrones’ Peter Dinklage is in talks to star in the pilot for an HBO series scripted by Sydney-based Justin Monjo and produced by Ben Stiller’s Red Hour Films. This has some interesting implications if you're a Game of Thrones fan.
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I love Stargate's scientists. "Found it!"
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Atlantis has more  deaths than Voyager. "Weir" is back again in season 5, after a clone of carson showed up to help out.Edit: well 
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alg posted:Edit: well Yeah the end of that episode was stone cold You're talking about Weir coming back as a Replicant and they just gate them out into space to float for all eternity right?
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On a Farscape note, good though Stargate SG1 and Atlantis were, there's nothing quite as memorably surreal as "The only thing a Klingon understands is a show of force [runs away from half a dozen pulse rifle blasts]" or "Merry frelling Christmas".
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This thread has made me start watching Farscape to see how it is. Why do I recognize the main character? I looked him up, and realize he was in SG1, but I just can't place who he was.
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Sammus posted:This thread has made me start watching Farscape to see how it is. Why do I recognize the main character? I looked him up, and realize he was in SG1, but I just can't place who he was. The guy who replaced Jack as team leader. I don't remember his name.
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Ben Browder, he was Cam Mitchell on Fargate:SG1 and John Crichton on Farscape.
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Use two of those things... It's a blast door .(From SG-1 8x17 Reckoning)
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kingturnip posted:On a Farscape note, good though Stargate SG1 and Atlantis were, there's nothing quite as memorably surreal as "The only thing a Klingon understands is a show of force [runs away from half a dozen pulse rifle blasts]" or "Merry frelling Christmas". IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING?
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Holy poo poo Farscape is actually pretty good. The little guy pissing out explosives in that one episode was great. The make up and sets are interesting too.
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Sammus posted:Holy poo poo Farscape is actually pretty good. The little guy pissing out explosives in that one episode was great. The make up and sets are interesting too. I don't know if I could feasibly watch Farscape again. It was enjoyable for its time...but now its fairly campy... 
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alg posted:Atlantis has more Yes, literally two examples is more than the repeated Lazarus of the Week awards on Voyager. 
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WMain00 posted:I don't know if I could feasibly watch Farscape again. It was enjoyable for its time...but now its fairly campy... It's actually better the second time around because you can appreciate what they are doing and pay more attention to the nuances of the characters, whilst also being able to skip the few really awful bits. It also helps to have already acquired an ear for alien elements of the characters speech. In terms of campy, yeah it is a bit, but that's a result of it being scifi on a shoestring made with a mandate to be experimental and adventurous. Some stuff works, some doesn't, but there's a sincerity to the attempts that makes the failings noble ones. It is still easier to take seriously than B5 with that dreadful cheesiness that has aged terribly, and there's absolutely nothing in there that sinks to the level of early SG1 episodes. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yes, literally two examples is more than the repeated Lazarus of the Week awards on Voyager. 
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:It's actually better the second time around because you can appreciate what they are doing and pay more attention to the nuances of the characters, whilst also being able to skip the few really awful bits. I watched the pilot of Farscape and stopped watching, thus skipping all the really awful bits apart from the pilot.
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Jedit posted:I watched the pilot of Farscape and stopped watching, thus skipping all the really awful bits apart from the pilot. I thought Farscape was really fun, especially after the first half of season 1.
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Jedit posted:I watched the pilot of Farscape and stopped watching, thus skipping all the really awful bits apart from the pilot. I watched Emancipation, and stopped watching all Stargate, thus skipping all the really awful bits apart from Emancipation. Sounds pretty dumb, doesn't it?
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