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twistedmentat posted:My biggest problem with X3 is the whole Cure For Mutants thing. Even if you ignore the whole allegory angle of mutants, its still disturbing based on "You need to change who you are to fit in with everyone else" kind of message. This is a reoccurring thing in the comics, it's not even new to the movie. You have stuff like "No More Mutants" and some of them being happy that they're not longer a mutant, and that's within the last decade. Hell, how many times in the comics does Rouge alone want to have her powers taken away?
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IUG posted:This is a reoccurring thing in the comics, it's not even new to the movie. You have stuff like "No More Mutants" and some of them being happy that they're not longer a mutant, and that's within the last decade. Hell, how many times in the comics does Rouge alone want to have her powers taken away? Every time she speaks in a Chris Claremont comic
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The biggest problem is that they tried to do way too much. There are like 4-5 plotlines in a film that's not that long, and none of them are handled well. I also have no idea why they felt the need to put Angel in the film at all.
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bobkatt013 posted:They then reveal it does not work. The cure was just like pray the gay away programs. You're giving the movie so much more credit than it deserves. Magneto starts getting his powers back because he's Magneto and they need him in upcoming movies, not because the cure was a placebo all along. FlamingLiberal posted:The biggest problem is that they tried to do way too much. There are like 4-5 plotlines in a film that's not that long, and none of them are handled well. I also have no idea why they felt the need to put Angel in the film at all. Wasn't the actor who played Angel one of the producer's kids or something?
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Lurdiak posted:Wasn't the actor who played Angel one of the producer's kids or something? I don't think so, Angel was played by Ben Foster in one of his earliest "big" roles.
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Captain America 3 May 6, 2016 Which is a direct shot at WB/DC as that's their planned date for Batman/Superman.
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Sooo, anyone else hear a rumour that (MASSIVE cap spoiler) Winter Soldier is signed up for 9 more marvel movies? http://io9.com/why-is-buckys-movie-contract-so-much-bigger-than-capta-1543322944
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Goffer posted:Sooo, anyone else hear a rumour that (MASSIVE cap spoiler) Winter Soldier is signed up for 9 more marvel movies? http://io9.com/why-is-buckys-movie-contract-so-much-bigger-than-capta-1543322944 I could see all of this happening.
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prezbuluskey posted:I could see all of this happening. They are introducing Crossbones and Sharon Carter in Cap 2, right? I'm game for a Death of Captain America story. Maybe Cap 2 will be what they use to disillusion him and send him on the run if they're not up for Civil War?
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muscles like this? posted:Captain America 3 If Cap 2 is really as good as the early hype is giving it, WB will probably back off that spot.
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Codependent Poster posted:If Cap 2 is really as good as the early hype is giving it, WB will probably back off that spot. I read that they already have and are moving BvS a week earlier.
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Goffer posted:Sooo, anyone else hear a rumour that (MASSIVE cap spoiler) Winter Soldier is signed up for 9 more marvel movies? http://io9.com/why-is-buckys-movie-contract-so-much-bigger-than-capta-1543322944 AFAIK, those contracts are standard business for most of the MCU players other than Downey, Hemsworth, and Evans. It doesn't mean that they have plans to cast him in anywhere near seven more films, just that they want to make sure they have dibs on him for a while should they decide to use him.
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Barry Convex posted:AFAIK, those contracts are standard business for most of the MCU players other than Downey, Hemsworth, and Evans. It doesn't mean that they have plans to cast him in anywhere near seven more films, just that they want to make sure they have dibs on him for a while should they decide to use him. Evans did an interview where he said he's under contract for six movies, and he plans to be in six. I'm assuming that's three stand alones and three Avengers. He also said his Thor cameo didn't count. I wonder how these actors feel when they get cast as superheroes. I mean, I know they think "Haha I'm loving set for life", but I wonder how it feels to fully suit up and look in the mirror and think "I'm goddamn Captain America".
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zoux posted:I wonder how these actors feel when they get cast as superheroes. I mean, I know they think "Haha I'm loving set for life", but I wonder how it feels to fully suit up and look in the mirror and think "I'm goddamn Captain America". The answer to both should be "loving awesome".
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IUG posted:The answer to both should be "loving awesome". See Hugh Jackman
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IUG posted:The answer to both should be "loving awesome". Yeah but then you have Tom Welling...
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zoux posted:Yeah but then you have Tom Welling... Nuh-uh, he never suited up 
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"Yeah, I played Superman for 10 years!" "Cool, can I see a pic of you in the suit? I've never seen one!" "Uh..."
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Hakkesshu posted:I don't think it'd be getting such hate if Arrow wasn't on. I think it's a perfectly fine show that started out boring, but has steadily improved. Still isn't great, though. I didn't understand the SHIELD hate until I watched more Arrow. Now I get it and I'm a totaly Marvel/ Whedon Fanboy. Arrow is just so good.
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NarkyBark posted:"Yeah, I played
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No, Tim Thomerson played The Blur for a few commercials back in the 90s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ih_ez22Vk Hakkesshu posted:Kelsey Grammer as Beast is also an inspired choice. There is some good in that film, but christ the bad parts are truly awful. X3 is a film I pretty much did a huge rant on about how there is a better film in there than what we got with a few relatively minor plot changes. At the same time, I defend it quite a bit that it's not completely horrible or the worst superhero movie out there, there are a lot of really good moments to it. However, I think there was an instant hatred of it because it wasn't Singer's which wasn't helped by the number of bad choices made in the film, too. I mean, it makes a lot more sense to have Magneto keep Mystique with him after the Cure. Despite the fact she's no longer a mutant, he has to be aware that it's potentially a treatable or temporary condition and they have history together. Also, she's a valuable TOOL as a cured mutant. She's a figure he can trot out to his followers as something they all have to look forward to. A constant reminder of what they stand to lose.
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zoux posted:Evans did an interview where he said he's under contract for six movies, and he plans to be in six. I'm assuming that's three stand alones and three Avengers. He also said his Thor cameo didn't count. Stephen Amell definitely went with the latter.
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JediTalentAgent posted:However, I think there was an instant hatred of it because it wasn't Singer's I don't think most people who saw X3 could even tell you it was a different director, and guess what, they hated it too.
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Dacap posted:I read that they already have and are moving BvS a week earlier. Makes sense. Everything I've seen so far from Cap 2 looks goddamn amazing. All the buzz surrounding it has been super positive too, so WB/DC cowering back from that date is to be expected.
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Here's an X1 question: One of the big rumors that came out as the film was in theaters was that Fox cut 40 minutes from the finished film. Was that 40 minutes of actual filmed footage, or was that 40 minutes of movie that was never filmed?
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Goffer posted:Sooo, anyone else hear a rumour that (MASSIVE cap spoiler) Winter Soldier is signed up for 9 more marvel movies? http://io9.com/why-is-buckys-movie-contract-so-much-bigger-than-capta-1543322944 Does this mean they're going to do Civil War then? How the hell is that going to work with the franchises split between companies?
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PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:Does this mean they're going to do Civil War then? How the hell is that going to work with the franchises split between companies? Unspoiled because it's removed enough from the original topic... It would work the best way. Instead of Pro/Anti Registration, it would be Fox Vs Disney. And they would be fighting for just as well-defined reasons.
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Captain America vs Iron Man are the only essential players for a Civil War movie.
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PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:Does this mean they're going to do Civil War then? How the hell is that going to work with the franchises split between companies? If Marvel has the balls to do Civil War, kill off Chris Evans, and make Sebastian the new Cap, that would be amazing.
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WickedHate posted:Captain America vs Iron Man are the only essential players for a Civil War movie. I think they would benefit from having a younger, Spider-Man type hero as well.
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Metal Loaf posted:I think they would benefit from having a younger, Spider-Man type hero as well. Maybe Quicksilver will fill that role.
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Nova would fit that bill. I'm honestly surprised there aren't serious talks about a Nova movie yet. I bet we'll hear rumblings if Guardians is a success.
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They aren't going to ever do Civil War because 1) one of the heroes would have to be a bad guy 2) You'd have to try and have people side with Chris Evans over Downey Jr which would never happen and ignoring part 2) Downey has Avengers 2 and 3 left on his contract and that's it.
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Apparently Chris Evans has been pretty upfront that he's going to ride his contract out (which is Avengers 2, Cap 3 and Avengers 3) and that's it for him.
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Not surprising since Evans is a guy who treats acting as just A Job. I'd be curious to know if he even likes playing Captain America.
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I'm sure he doesn't hate it but he did turn the role down multiple times and they had to throw more money at him because of the ridiculously poo poo contracts they offer people. So that basically means Downey Jr, Evans and Hemsworth are all just riding things out until Avengers 3 where Marvel will have to start with a new slate or desperately hope Ant Man takes off.
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I'd wager its more how exhausting the schedule is since you're pretty much constantly making movies for Marvel. He's going from Cap 2 to Avengers 2 to Cap 3 to Avengers 3 in the span of something like 3 years.
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muscles like this? posted:I'd wager its more how exhausting the schedule is since you're pretty much constantly making movies for Marvel. He's going from Cap 2 to Avengers 2 to Cap 3 to Avengers 3 in the span of something like 3 years. I'm kind of remember reading or watching an interview with Evans saying he wasn't really keen on being put in the limelight of an establishing franchise. He basically said something along the lines of not being able to cope with the fame for that long or something. Maybe he was joking, no idea.
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teagone posted:I'm kind of remember reading or watching an interview with Evans saying he wasn't really keen on being put in the limelight of an establishing franchise. He basically said something along the lines of not being able to cope with the fame for that long or something. Maybe he was joking, no idea. He's just getting into character 
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