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No I saw them hauling up "bodies" in bags in pictures from that french crash so something was left Blob of clothing and bony material?
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Drunk & Ugly posted:What happens to a body after a plane crash into the ocean like that? I mean I've seen the worst stuff on the net so I dont think a bloated plane crash victim would bother me, let alone what's left after 2 years in the ocean There won't be a drat thing left after a month, never mind 2 years.
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Ka0 posted:A reminder that the air france 447 investigation took over 2 years to find the flight recorders (and over a hundred missing passengers still strapped to their seats) about 14000 feet deep in the atlantic ridge. Yeah but they found wreckage within 5 days so at least they can say you know this thing is at the bottom of the ocean
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Mar 14, 2014 01:52
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Three Olives posted:This is a Boeing specific service, I assume it's somewhat like car telematics where it comes with the car and even if you aren't subscribed to the service it's still checking in every so often to see if you subscribed. Until there's a real source for that, I have a hard time believing it. If only because the HF radio transmissions themselves are capable of reaching Boeing just fine, and in fact they did right up until they didn't anymore. The '4 hour' rumor first started as "Boeing got 4 hours of ACARS data after contact was lost", was almost immediately declared false by Boeing, and now has morphed into "no ACARS data received, but we got some satellite pings for 4 hours", but We can't source our source.
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So in Farcry 3, you know how main bad guy (not Vaas, but the weird european guy) bribed a cruise ship captain to dock his boat on a private island, sold all the passengers into slavery, then blew up the cruise ship while listening to beethoven or something? I am convinced that is what happened to this plane.
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Mar 14, 2014 01:53
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the skeletons are probably around for a while longer, they can't last forever because there weren't any skeletons on the titanic, but on the other hand, every pirate thing has skeleton pirates so they must take longer to decompose
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Drunk & Ugly posted:What happens to a body after a plane crash into the ocean like that? I mean I've seen the worst stuff on the net so I dont think a bloated plane crash victim would bother me, let alone what's left after 2 years in the ocean it turns into a mermaid
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Drunk & Ugly posted:No I saw them hauling up "bodies" in bags in pictures from that french crash so something was left I remember the New York Times Magazine article from 2011 mentioned that the bodies were found mostly intact because of how far down the fuselage was. I can't remember the specific reason why though. The article gets into a lot of lurid details, like how  the bodies were intact enough that they were still in the crash safety position, with fractures in their leg bones.  It's pretty gnarly, you should totally read it.
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What happens to a body in the ocean? A japanese factory cruiser stumbles upon it and turns it into kanikama where it will find its final destination at some low-key hotel in hong-kong.
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Also what happens to those dudes in submarines, I mean, what exactly is eating them if theyre in a sealed compartment or something just bacteria I guess and what happens to the string that guy mentioned gently caress, questions
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suztan posted:I remember the New York Times Magazine article from 2011 mentioned that the bodies were found mostly intact because of how far down the fuselage was. I can't remember the specific reason why though. The article gets into a lot of lurid details, like how See, and you bitches giving me gruff and talkin mermaids gently caress all ya'll,  suztanquote:He reached for a large projector on the table and flipped it on with a hum. The far wall lighted up, and we began viewing images from the autopsies. “We took pictures of everything,” Sarmento said, scrolling through pictures of watches, necklaces, earrings and rings, still clinging to blue-green wrists and necks. “We were able to make all of the identifications.” As the images flashed by, he added: “All the autopsies were observed by the French and by Interpol. Not one country, not one family, complained about the identifications.” Drunk & Ugly fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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bobfather posted:Until there's a real source for that, I have a hard time believing it. If only because the HF radio transmissions themselves are capable of reaching Boeing just fine, and in fact they did right up until they didn't anymore. When the AP or other major credible US news service says something like this "The U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the situation by name" it is code for this was intentionally leaked by the US government through a credible known high level US source. "authorized by name", that is just the US diplomatically putting their two cents in without getting an official or department involved in a complicated international incident.
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Three Olives posted:When the AP or other major credible US news service says something like this "The U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the situation by name" it is code for this was intentionally leaked by the US government through a credible known high level US source. "authorized by name", that is just the US diplomatically putting their two cents in without getting an official or department involved in a complicated international incident. I know it's tempting to believe it to be true, but there has literally been 0, not one actual, verifiable fact published about this flight except that it's missing. The news media will do anything for more eyeballs, up to and including saying that Boeing got 4 hours of ACARS transmissions after the last known contact, when Boeing themselves came forward and said that was not the case. Now another news media organization is insisting that a plane with no functioning transponder and no capability to radio HF ACARS data was magically able to send 'pings' to a satellite for a service that the airline does not subscribe to. Fine, I'll allow it because maybe the radio comms are on a different system than the satcoms, so it's possible that a failure in one system might not effect the other. However, it's disregarding the fact that the service is operated by Boeing, who have already come forward and said "there was no ACARS data received after the last known contact". Both the HF and satellite transmissions are ACARS transmissions. So 1) why would Boeing lie twice about this? And 2) why would any US official other than someone at Boeing (which is a private, not governmental organization) have anything to say about ACARS data relayed directly to Boeing? bobfather fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Ethan_Alan posted:So in Farcry 3, you know how main bad guy (not Vaas, but the weird european guy) bribed a cruise ship captain to dock his boat on a private island, sold all the passengers into slavery, then blew up the cruise ship while listening to beethoven or something? I am convinced that is what happened to this plane. how do the blood dragons fit into this?
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bobfather posted:So 1) why would Boeing lie twice about this? And 2) why would any US official other than someone at Boeing (which is a private, not governmental organization) have anything to say about ACARS data relayed directly to Boeing? Is this the same Boeing that is the second largest US defense contractor that is routinely involved in highly classified government projects that finds itself in the middle of an international incident involving China and several other major Asian countries?
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bobfather posted:I know it's tempting to believe it to be true, but there has literally been 0, not one actual, verifiable fact published about this flight except that it's missing. No data was received, but are they counting "pings" as data? And I think the leaks are coming out because the Malaysian government is being incompetent and people are trying to push them along.
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Three Olives posted:Is this the same Boeing that is the second largest US defense contractor that is routinely involved in highly classified government projects that finds itself in the middle of an international incident involving China and several other major Asian countries? come on 3O it's not the X files the plane is just a Boeing, like thousands of other planes
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Maybe I am not keeping up with all the weird conflicting information, but isn't that US ship going to where the alleged pings showed the aircraft going or is the location the US ship is headed based on some other information?
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Crossposting from the Idiots on Social Media thread in PYF: makes u think
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Vladimir Putin posted:And I think the leaks are coming out because the Malaysian government is being incompetent and people are trying to push them along. At this point the media should just roll their eyes and ignore anything they say, or at least put it in the "On the Lighter Side" section.
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Rusty posted:Maybe I am not keeping up with all the weird conflicting information, but isn't that US ship going to where the alleged pings showed the aircraft going or is the location the US ship is headed based on some other information? I think it's a carrier group and it's going to where the pings were coming from, not where they last had contact.
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Stick Figure Mafia posted:how do the blood dragons fit into this? Somebody checked one as luggage, didn't they.
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I figured I'd spend an hour or so looking through the satellite images on that Tomnod site and came across this thing. It looks like its about 60-70 feet wide, thats got to be a lot bigger than a life raft but what the hell is it? It looks like it has the helipad marking on it, are there oil rigs that small?
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Arclyte posted:I figured I'd spend an hour or so looking through the satellite images on that Tomnod site and came across this thing. It is the roof of an under water evil layer.
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So at what point do they give up? For boats lost at sea it's usually a week. Don't know if there is a policy for planes.
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Arclyte posted:I figured I'd spend an hour or so looking through the satellite images on that Tomnod site and came across this thing. My guess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normally_unmanned_installation
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think it's a carrier group and it's going to where the pings were coming from, not where they last had contact. no when the string is disconnected from the conveyor belt it stops and the plane can't fly anymore that is where the plane is and the blonde aussie girls are giving beezies in the cargo hold
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Maybe there were no blonde aussie girls on board so the pilots flew to Darwin to pick some up.
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This is why when I fly I wear life preservers and parachutes, as well as a weeks worth of rations, flare guns, sea dye, a full survival kit, and a single teabag in a ziploc bag.
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7thBatallion posted:This is why when I fly I wear life preservers and parachutes, as well as a weeks worth of rations, flare guns, sea dye, a full survival kit, and a single teabag in a ziploc bag. Rations would be useless. Commercial airliners insta kill everyone on board when landing into any sea or ocean water. The only exception is landing into completely calm waters (large river, bay, or a lake - see Flight 1549). And when landing into a bay/lake you're right next to civilization anyway. All those lifejackets and training videos they show landing into oceans are BS made to make people feel safer.
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7thBatallion posted:This is why when I fly I wear life preservers and parachutes, as well as a weeks worth of rations, flare guns, sea dye, a full survival kit, and a single teabag in a ziploc bag. You had me going until sea dye, I am pretty sure there is not enough dye to change the colour of the sea.
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Back in the day, but now we know about the piece of string.
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maxidious posted:You had me going until sea dye, I am pretty sure there is not enough dye to change the colour of the sea. It's concentrated.
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I liked the part where the plan literally flew itself to the destination and just chilled until it fell out of the sku
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maxidious posted:You had me going until sea dye, I am pretty sure there is not enough dye to change the colour of the sea. Oh yes there is  You can see that poo poo from space too
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Rad Russian posted:Commercial airliners insta kill everyone on board when landing into any sea or ocean water. The only exception is landing into completely calm waters (large river, bay, or a lake - see Flight 1549). I don't know if this is a serious post, but there have been crashes into the ocean with at least a fair number of survivors. Here's one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961
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K. Farb posted:What would calm waters do to the string? Now now, don't go chasin waterfalls.
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